I don't know what he did, neither anyone else, except Brockhampton and other people affected by Ameer's actions. So Brockhampton have the only right to kick him out, not the fans. I hope they won't lose their creativity tho.
Kazoox well I think they owe it to their fans to tell us their reasoning to kicking out one of the most important members that's been there since the beginning and is on the cover of every saturation. Or else, I think their "we were lied to" reasoning is very hypocritical. Because with the information out now, I cannot see a way where kicking him out is a rational, smart, thought out, and overall good decision. I'll be expecting more information if they went as far as kicking him out and cancelling tours. I'm a sensitive person, but I fucking cried over this...
Wait, what? Why do you not know what he did, and how does this goober also not know what ameer did? The main allegations are out, sure there might be some hidden stuff but all the big allegations came out. And if you do some research you are gonna realize that the accusation is not out of this world. Its 3 women saying that ameer cheated on them and that he also had some arguments which then lead to ameer screaming at them. The worst allegation that came out of this was that ameer was kind of an asshole during consensual sex. But those are all the main allegations, and from this allegation you can form your own legit opinion about ameer.
Just to clear up what I said, I'm ok with them not saying anything if they think that's best, I'm gonna just put my faith in them, and hope this really ends up being for the best of everyone
We don't know what happened and I'm the last to be a victim blamer but fr we should wait for more shit to come out we really don't know if he did that shit
Ameer was my favorite and it’s just super depressing to see the Saturation album covers. I was so hyped to see where they go from Saturation, and I’ll keep listening to them; but it just really sucks to have my favorite member outed. I support the decision, but I miss Ameer.
I mean shit I respect this group way more now. Ameer is literally the cover of all 3 Saturation albums so to kick him out is a major decision. It just shows how much of a role model this group is to me. To stand by proper morals even in situations like this
Jixaw fuck this social justice stuff dude, no one really cares if he mistreated women 3 years ago, he still does good music so fuck people morality, Michael Jackson was accused of pedophilia and he is still legend because of his talent regardless if he was a pedophile or not
Well the reality is that MJ was most likely not a pedophile and the people around him stood by him because of that. The people around Ameer cant stand by him. It's because something is wrong. We don't know all the details but we can tell how things are by the reactions of those around Ameer. And if he was abusive something needs to happen man. It's not about "social justice stuff", its about being a decent human being. That's what social justice is actually supposed to be about anyway.
Oscar Lizarraga “social justice stuff” stop. If you don’t think people should be punished for doing fucked up shit then sorry but you’re an idiot and people close to you would probably hate that you typed your comment. There are more musicians out there anyways, if someone does something fucked up and gets what they deserved, there are millions of other groups / artists to choose from who don’t do fucked up shit.
Oscar Lizarraga You’re kind of proving my point. (Aside from all the justice warrior stuff) He was one of their core members, a really vital part of Brockhampton, yet they STILL stuck to their morals. Anyone with that much respect for women has my respect too and if you’re against that then ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Here’s how I view it [read the whole thing]: If they kick out Ameer, they lose a great rapper that’s had a significant influence on the group’s music, piss off and possibly lose a lot of fans, and have to push back their album(s). If they keep him in the group it makes a bad impression with the record label that JUST signed them and completely shatters their image. It makes them look insensitive, immoral, and selfish. It’s really a lose-lose situation, and just like Tabby said, they did the best they could. As much as I love Ameer’s rapping, I think Brockhampton made the right decision in kicking him out. He needs to do some serious soul-searching, and the group has enough talent so that they can carry on without him. Hopefully things’ll work out okay in the end but for right now this is how it is. So we need to learn how to deal with it.
The Best Pizza Connoisseur yeah I agree I believe they made the right decision. He can have time to recover and they can still pursue their dreams.i really hope he becomes a better person. And from his music he seems like he was trying to be Like I said I hope time away from the band makes him better and I hope the girlfriend can recover. I hope this catharsis of hers helps her move one from what he did. I just hope they all come out better.
I don't think the fan backlash will be as huge as you may think. There's certainly a lot of people, inlcuding me, who would have really liked to see Ameer stay, but I think most of them will understand. Also, spot on on the group having enough talent. I've seen some comments say that Ameer's departure has damaged the group's ability in the long run, but I have more faith in them than that. Besides, tragedy such as this is great material to write for new music. Once enough time goes by for things to heal, there could be some incredible stuff from Brockhampton.
I've never been a BROCKHAMPTON fan, but I don't understand the controversy. Not only do they know way more about the situation than we do, but they are the ones running the business; they are able to make any decision they want.
Luis Serrano i totally respect it they clearly know something we dont i respect them for not disclosing the other info and just getting the negativty out of the group this is really the only decision they could have made. If you listen to some of the verses like matts on junky they clearly have a huge problem with the way he acted and if he lied about it too then its entirely justified
You guys all sound like some cucks man. To many people lack mental strength these days, that’s how you end up with scumbags abusing people because they can’t deal with their own demons. I have 0 empathy for people like that, and anyone getting emotional because you’re a fan.....what in the actual fuck lol you should never care this deeply about people you actually don’t know, their artists they create and you consume, nobody ever told you to get attached to the creators. You never know these people
Yeah I will, but if he didn’t do what he did maybe this shot wouldn’t of happened. I’m fucking disappointed as hell since he was my favourite Brockhampton member, but I’m glad they kicked him out.
Liv Barnes we don’t know all the facts but the allegations were emotional and mental abuse...i do hope they recovered or will recover but ameer just lost his whole livelihood and dreams
Imagine if all these allegations came up later in their careers. Ameer would be treated just like some ordinary rapper trash. Twitter would be quacking, "smh cANCELLED!!" The band would be accused of keeping this thing to themselves for too long, our "idols of the generation" proving themselves to be just some famous men who covered up their abusive pasts. Even though I'm sad, I'm glad it happened now, as soon as possible. Because, with this, after Ameer really heals and grows, he still has a chance of coming back. But later down in their careers? He and the whole band would be completely ruined.
Talk that talk, Tabby. People are saying some absolutely ridiculous stuff. It’s hard to imagine that people actually live and breath with those kind of mindsets
Before watching the video, I'm saying there's a lot of things that only Kevin and the others know, so we can't say they kicked Ameer out because of the accusations and the image (remember they said they were lied to). Edit: okay that's what he says at beggining
fucking preach man the twitter comments were revolting with how some of the fans responded to this, there is so much ego and music ownership in the fans, acting like their opinion matters on the personal stuff of people they don't even know really
Yeah social media is so toxic right now, Brockhampton has the worst fanbase. Period. Never seen such a large group of annoying people like the same artist lmao
Christian Bailey exactly!!! Saw this one guy saying they're irrelevant without ameer and i wasnt having it. We clearly don't know shit about this and people act as if they own bh or at least know them well enough to be able to dictate their decisions. As much as they respect us, we're FANS at the end of the day, our opinions aren't important in situations like this
Rip Ameer he was kicked out for allegations without proof but of course we don't know the whole story so there may be proof. He's a guy trying to better himself and has openly expressed his background. This was the best decision right now for the other members. Hopefully once Ameer gets help he can come back
About the second point, I completely disagree. Rappers who rap about grotesque things may not actually be killers, smugglers, etc etc, but alot of them come from those pasts or live in environments where those are very real experiences. Yeah, you can seperate the artist from the art, but when the art is a direct reflection of the life of the artist, thats impossible. Take Junky. Kevin talks about being gay. Ameer talks about drug abuse. Matt talks about rape culture. Take Milk. Ameer talks about his past hurting women. Merlyn talks about being alone in University. Matt talks about an existential crisis. Dom talks about depression. Are you honestly gonna fucking sit there and say "oh Ameer is just joking" and act surprised these allegations came out? Love u tho Tabby
Man, it’s pretty rare that I see a TH-camr show emotion and I actually 100% believe it’s genuine. BH was such a beautiful thing and while it was the right choice to kick Ameer out (although I don’t hate Ameer I hope he gets better and Mabey even starts a small solo career later) Brockhampton will never be the same and while I will still be a fan, at the end of the day this is just a really shitty thing for everyone. R.I.P. Brockhampton Golden Age. Your Everything that Perfect, damn.
"And there's a couple women and they know some things about lies that I done told and shit that I done said" From when I first heard those lines I knew that was part of Ameer's character, but it hurts to hear it like this
Kevin said Ameer was getting help for the past year. Why can't people better themselves nowadays? When people find out about someone's past, no matter what they're doing to better themselves we have to "cancel" them. There has to be more to the story because it doesn't make sense tbh
Thank U Tabby, u addressed this very well and opened my mind to realize how selfish I was being. Initially I was thinking this decision was a mistake but I now see it’s what’s best for the group overall. Still tho I would like to say that My biggest issue with this entire situation is towards the people on Twitter attacking Ameer rn. Ameer already seems suicidal and depressed through some of his lyricism. These people on Twitter boasting “fuck Ameer!” And rejoicing about it are just gonna make the situation worse for him. He needs space rn to figure this all out. People nowadays don’t believe in second chances and it pisses me off. He did terrible things and he 100% deserves the repercussions of that. But that doesn’t mean he can’t eventually change. People gotta remember that we’re human and we fuck up. I hope he can find himself and become a better person In the future. That’s just how I’m feeling towards this, if u disagree that’s fine but just reply kindly please lol. I’m very open minded and I really wanna hear how other people are feeling about this.
It would really suck if the face of the guy they kicked out was featured on multiple album covers, or if the guy they kicked out had some of the grittiest verses. Oh wait....
Damn gotta be tough for them, they had the year of their lifes in 2017 only to all this happen real quick, i hope Brockhampton keeps getting the praise that they were having before all this and that Ameer recovers himself becoming a better person in the future ( and MAYBE returning some day?)
Ameer needs to clean his image. Sad to say but this was a good idea to kick Ameer out. He honestly was the best rapper out of all of them and he did talk about what he did in some songs but no one seemed to care. If he weren’t kicked then it would make BrockHamptons image worse. Hopefully he can come back after he cleans his image but most likely won’t.
Thank you so much for talking about this. I 100% agree with every single point you made. It really does suck because now we have no clue what’s going to happen next
Thanks for dropping the most well rounded, sensible response to this whole situation Tabby - it’s 100% needed especially when you take a look at some of the comments on this very video, keep it up brother.
Brockhampton obviously knows more about what happened than the public, but this decision still disappoints me. BH stood for brotherhood and friendship. This seems like abandonment rather than helping their brother make things right in his life and moving on. He is clearly sorry for his past actions through his lyrics and public statements. I think the last thing Ameer needs is abandonment by his closest friends and coworkers. You mentioned that this was a family decision, which I agree with. That is exactly why I find it to be so disheartening. Would you “kick out” your brother from the family if you found out he was abusive to women in his past? Let alone before an actual trial with damning evidence. I truly hope this decision was made with Ameer’s consent rather than BH submitting to the masses’ judgment on his alleged behavior. Regardless, this is a sad day for everyone involved.
Just because he is kicked out of Brockhampton doesn't mean he's kicked out of their lives or brotherhood. Obviously we don't know what the future will be for their relationship, but they are way too close to cut him out of everything. They wouldn't cry at their set & cancel the tour if this wasn't the hardest thing for them to do, ya know?
Tabby Fair point. Again BH knows more than we do, so maybe I’m allowing my emotions as a fan to affect my perspective, which as you mentioned is a selfish way of looking at things. At the end of the day, the most important thing is that Ameer does whatever he needs to straighten his path, and I hope as you said that the other BH members will continue to be there for him despite him not being involved with the group.
I agree. It seems to be out of selfishness and just for their 'brand image'. It's NOT black or white- to defend him or not- it's so much more than that.
Initially I was very upset but at the end of the day this is the right choice. Regardless of what may of actually happened Brockhampton would be plagued with all the controversy surrounding Ameer. I think Brockhampton will be okay, I know they will continue to make great music and I hope Ameer gets the help he needs.
Look at the brightside, Tabby would / might be a good replacement. Fan turned member. Would bring a lot of personality and would bring in a new story and era to the group.
I didn’t think too much about the allegations when they first appeared, as it was very much he said/she said. But now, seeing that the boys said they were lied to, it seems like they’ve made the right decision. Sad to see him go, but they were left with no other good choice.
I was really scared to click on this vid. I thought you’d be like all those toxic ppl on Twitter. You surprised me with how well said this was! Much love dude.
Yo heard about how at their set in Boston, the Brockhampton members stood silent during the Ameer parts? On Twitter there's a vid circulating of them not playing Ameer's part on Bleach.
wow u put everything i was thinking into this video. thanks for the sincerity and making this well thought out. most people on twitter insta etc are saying the dUMBest shit right now
I saw Ameer tweet that he has “never criminally harmed anyone or disrespected their boundaries”. Assuming this is true, why would he get kicked out? If he didn’t do anything illegal what’s the problem. I can obviously understand if he assaulted someone, but it just seems like he has had a history of disrespecting his partners. Which is obviously TERRIBLE, and shouldn’t be accepted. But idk I mean assuming he didn’t actually assault or abuse anyone, I don’t see why he should have been kicked out. Obviously I don’t know the whole story, or exactly WHAT Ameer did, so I guess I can’t really come to a definitive answer on whether or not he should be kicked out, so hopefully we get more information in the future
Wow, this is so well put. It really made me think about what’s going on, and how I were taking in everything. I realized how selfish I were being. One of the very first thoughts I had were: “omg I’m probably never going to see ameer in concert” and it sucks that I would even think that way, not even taking into account what he was being accused for. Thanks for opening eyes.
Truly hate the decision of Ameer being kicked out but this is understandable Bc of their reputation would have been on the line as you said. BH is and always will be a family, family makes hard decisions and this is the hardest thing to kick a brother out. Respect to you Tabby and respect to Brockhampton.
i was having doubts about this whole situation but youre so right. ultimately this was the right decision for the group and im so proud of them for following through with this because its what they stand for
I just hope Ameer and the rest are alright and mentally, physically and emotionally healthy. They are truly kind and creative people and I just want the best for them. I saw Joba and Dom crying on each other's shoulders at the show they had the day before they kicked him out and I just wanted to hug them 😥
Thank you for this video. People are forgetting that Brockhampton wants to promote positivity. The boys definitely know more than we do, and I respect their choice.
The stuff you said about twitter and people not knowing anything and being shitty and toxic on Twitter really rang true with the recent passing of my favorite TH-camr and the way people have treated it. I'm also not sure how to feel about all of this. It hurts but they really had no other choice.
I think you opened up an issue in rap culture today: the line or the blur between when a rapper is saying "fake" shit and when a rapper is really expressing something genuine. Case in point is Tyler, wherein he can make batshit offensive stuff like Bastard and Goblin and make personal stuff like Answer, Flower Boy. I understand that Ameer has never shaded away from the issues in his past, and I also understand that a big part of BROCKHAMPTON's identity as a boyband and as a brand is anti-abuse on women (example being Matt's verse in Junky), which is why I think kicking out of Ameer from the band is imo a good decision. Of course we don't or we may never know what truly happened in the context of Ameer's situation, but I believe that kicking him out is just the right thing to do in this very moment. I just wish they would have done it earlier to avoid all chaos breaking loose with the twitter "stan cancelling" culture right now, but I understand that being lied to by a fellow band member and a longtime best friend in your life would be hard to handle in a situation like this. I really hope Ameer finds some help, because I truly believe that he can change based on the way he expresses himself in his music. This is just my take on it.
The thing that worries me is when situations like this happen, people can sometimes be falsely accused for doing stuff like this. And this kind of stuff that happens can really damage a persons life, if they are wrongly accused. It’s stupid that no information is released on the matter because they might’ve just falsely accused him. Rip Ameer if the allegations are true
Tabby, just cause I’m curious (I agree with you completely) but what’s your take if they decided to fight with Ameer being that he’s a huge core of why BROCKHAMPTON is BROCKHAMPTON and say he’s still in the band and PUPPY is still going to have Ameer on it and suck it. Obviously it would create a huge rift with fans but what’s your take? (Ameer was personally my favorite member and I was hoping this wouldn’t happen, and feel it will critically change the group)
It was the safest move to do, especially on a record label now. That being said, I am extremely worried for Ameer's mental health, since Brockhampton was the greatest support group he probably ever had. Who knows where the band goes from here, but I will always enjoy the SAT trilogy.
this was the perfect decision not only because its better for them as a band but also because they have such a platform and set an example for many young kids that enjoy their music. I think they know that this just shows their fan-base that no matter how close someone is these things aren't okay and just sent that standard/example
I don't see why having this discussion now. We don't know what he did precisely, Brockhampton knows a lot more than we do. Why even discuss whether the decision is right or not when we do not know what the decision is based on?
I'm really going to miss ameer in the group. He was an integral part of the group, in my opinion, and I don't think the group will thrive the same- musically. It seems that he has relationship issues with girls that feel wronged- it's not his fault that he doesn't like them the way they wanted them to, but it seems that he hasn't treated them the way they could have been treated. I'm guessing a lot of where he comes from has to do with having been influenced by strong porn and by other artists that have gone through negative relationship/ sexual things. A lot of men go through this. He expressed his true self through his music, and I can't understand if it's hard to separate the music from the artist, but I have a better way of understanding him at least. Not just under a label of 'abuser', but 'what happened to him that makes other people do that to him?' So many girls have come forth as a way to make a 'wave' and have a 'sad image of being victimized', and some have been treated wrong it seems, from part of ameer's character. Not what he fully is. I do understand both sides and wish it could be resolved. And wish that ameer can grow into the person that he really is. Not this negative image. If he was kicked out just for brockhampton's image, then frankly, I kind of see that as immature. It's not black or white- defending him or not- they should have all talked it out. Maybe it's part on ameer's dishonesty that he claimed towards the other members. But still... Nothing is resolved through selfishness. If it was ameer's choice to leave for their image, then i hope he can be forgiven by those girls and hope that he can find his way. Can't imagine how tough it can be on him or the ladies. But most importantly, I hope the girls try to understand where ameer comes from.
thank u so much for using your position as a male to speak to these fans that are defending abusers and dismissing us feminine fans as "SJWs" or whatever else weak excuses they got for standing beside misogyny. we need more men and privileged people like this to help out our cause. appreciate it.
i completely agree with all your points. the fact people are making this decision about themselves rather than about the band is disgusting. imagine how much keeping ameer in the group would alienate their fans who have been abused
My knee jerk reaction was similar to big js, but than I read up on what happened and realized basically what you said in this video. Rational thinking is one hell of a thing
The most annoying thing about all the discourse behind this is that no one gives a fuck about the victims’ pain or opinions on what should happen going forward. It’s always about what’s best for Ameer, best for the group, best for the fans, etc., but never about what’s best for the people who claim they’ve been hurt. It’s also disappointing that fans think an obviously socially progressive hip-hop group would not make the morally required decision of not allowing him to be apart of their music anymore. People online didn’t destroy his career, and the group kicking him off their records didn’t destroy it either. Ameer destroyed his own. The last thing that’s extremely annoying is that no one is giving this situation time to develop or evolve as Ameer, the group, and the victims work through the truth and pain of what did/didn’t happen on their own in private as the humans they are who need to go through that time-consuming, difficult, and painful process of forgiveness and reconciliation. For all the fans crying about how this will ruin the group musically, you’re clearly not noticing how this group has taken every experience they’ve ever gone through individually or as a group and turned it into beautiful music. From a musical perspective, I only expect everything will get better, which certainly won’t ever make the alleged abuse or whole situation worth it, but let’s remember what group we’re talking about here. We never know if Ameer will always be gone or what will come of his career or life. That’s not what’s important though. The most important thing is fixing the pain he supposedly caused, and that’s why having him separate from the group/music/lifestyle of BH is the best decision for everyone, along with the other reasons Tabby already discussed. Even if these allegations aren’t true, it’s still he right decision to have him leave for now. Give it time and we’ll see what happens, but the last thing we’re gonna do is excuse abuse or shove an unreconciled toxic past under the rug and hope everything goes away. Thousands of BH fans showed their blatant misogyny today and I’m extremely disappointed and surprised.
The so called _SJWs_ didn't ruin Ameer's career. *Ameer Vann ruined his own career.* That's sad, but that's how the things are... i just hope Brockhampton can recover after this...
I just want you to know how much this opened my eyes. That exact tweet I retweeted bc I felt that the fans screaming “ kick him out” had basically caused all of this. I was being selfish and didn’t realize that this isn’t about me and that this is what’s best for the band. Not that I didn’t agree with their decision in the first place it just hurts that it’s official. I just... can’t fathom that when ( well not now since the canceled the rest of the tour) I go to a concert I can’t sing Ameers part. Someone I truely idolized. Being called the n word, being talked down on, people assuming your future.... It’s just not gonna be the same Brockhampton to me.
Hey tabby , I will be posting this to my twitter feed as well so please feel free to read Last night at 2am in a London hotel , I too was thinking about myself with this whole situation, I don't want ameer out, I don't want brockhampton to end , I said some bad shit about the girl 2, I was angry, I was tried. After seeing the twitter post , I don't know what ameer did , no one will ever know , but it must be bad if they kicked him out after knowing each other for five years. But looking at this now , you are right , I need to think about the conversation they had , the things they must have said ,the tears that was cried throughout it all! In my opinion, they did the right thing , hopefully they can regroup and still make great music. I need to look at myself when I'm angry, and see how I can better myself. Thank you Tabby, Jamie
I hate that so many people are diminishing emotional abuse. “He didn’t hit anybody, he never raped her, what he did wasn’t that bad.” Nah fam. Emotional abuse well and truly fucks you up, messes with your perception of yourself and stops you having healthy relationships for a long ass time after. You can get PTSD from emotional abuse man. It’s not ‘not that bad’. I think Ameer’s voice was such an important part of the BH sound, abso-fucking-lutely, but I am not going to support an abuser.
Ameer was one of my favorite members of brockhampton, i felt disappointed about Ameer when i heard the allegations, obviously i don’t know the details only them but i think brockhampton did the right thing. So sad to see him go because of this...
Tabby, I feel you brother. This is the first I am hearing of this situation although since there was allegations against Ameer, BH had to cut ties with him, but if I can guess they will get him help as well as support him personally. Just not in the band. I agree as the band is concerned letting him go is the right decision.
okay, when the tweet went out, a piece of my mind thought that brockhampton had messed up and i really couldn’t handle it, but this video really...settled that feeling of disbelief and actually comprehending why they did it. i promise i’m not being sarcastic but thank you so much for making this video...everyone is hurting but those precious boys are going through even more...i’m still going to stand by them, hopefully people don’t unstan because of their decision regarding ameer...and ya :,)
Ameers part in ready for war is so fucking heartbreaking to listen to now. The whole “havent talked to my friends about it because then its real” (paraphrasing). Like he’s got some real dark demons and i hope he recovers and may one day make a return to the scene but for now i agree 100% with you Tabby
Chris Malinowski | (edited to remove some misinformation) // I'm assuming they've talked to Ameer and he's confirmed things to them in private that led to this decision.
MMFY did he say that? I thought he said on instagram live that he never saw ameer hurt anyone? Maybe I missed something. But I agree I'm sure they have more information than the public. Maybe ameer admitted it to them. I just hope he will have an opportunity to come back and if not be able to make music of his own
Chris Malinowski | Sorry, I misremembered. I just rewatched and he was referring to not speaking out on this situation sooner (I'm gonna edit my original comment because I don't want to put misinformation out there). But Titus Gilner has definitely implied on Twitter that members of the group saw shit and looked the other way, though what exactly that behaviour was I can't say. Going by BH's statement, they probably knew just enough that would make them look past his actions since he was also getting help. But in the statement they also said "we were lied to" so I'm assuming he copped to things to their face that he previously withheld.
EXACTLY! It’s disappointing af that it came too this but people need to understand that by keeping Ameer in this group, they would be justifying Ameer actions and that would go against all of there values.
my heart goes out to all the victims, i know it’s probably so hard for them to have to relive this and speak about it, i really hope they’ll be okay, what he did is inexcusable, bh did what they had to do
I don't know what he did, neither anyone else, except Brockhampton and other people affected by Ameer's actions. So Brockhampton have the only right to kick him out, not the fans. I hope they won't lose their creativity tho.
Kazoox well I think they owe it to their fans to tell us their reasoning to kicking out one of the most important members that's been there since the beginning and is on the cover of every saturation. Or else, I think their "we were lied to" reasoning is very hypocritical. Because with the information out now, I cannot see a way where kicking him out is a rational, smart, thought out, and overall good decision. I'll be expecting more information if they went as far as kicking him out and cancelling tours. I'm a sensitive person, but I fucking cried over this...
Bishcona crying is human, but i hope they will talk about the topic and tell us the reasons.
Wait, what? Why do you not know what he did, and how does this goober also not know what ameer did? The main allegations are out, sure there might be some hidden stuff but all the big allegations came out. And if you do some research you are gonna realize that the accusation is not out of this world. Its 3 women saying that ameer cheated on them and that he also had some arguments which then lead to ameer screaming at them. The worst allegation that came out of this was that ameer was kind of an asshole during consensual sex. But those are all the main allegations, and from this allegation you can form your own legit opinion about ameer.
Just to clear up what I said, I'm ok with them not saying anything if they think that's best, I'm gonna just put my faith in them, and hope this really ends up being for the best of everyone
it was probably RCA...
"... There's a couple women, and they know some things, about lies that i done told and shit that i done said..."
damn...
OH
fuck man
“His whole verse on HEAT”
on milk..... so sad :( not ameeeerr
Imagine singing along to Matt's verse in junky and being annoyed when ameer gets kicked out for abusing past girlfriends
Oh hadn't heard tabby mention that yet. hadn't got to that bit yet
We don't know what happened and I'm the last to be a victim blamer but fr we should wait for more shit to come out we really don't know if he did that shit
A carson u dont know. Brockhampton does.
A carson
I love ameer and can't imagine brockhampton without him, but they wouldnt kick him out for no reason
Im not necessarily sad that Ameer is kicked out, im sad because this is a huge hit to the other members, especially Kevin
This makes me so sad bro. I understand and I don’t think they would do it without a reason, but still bums me out.
It's okay to be sad about it, you grew attached to the group and he was a part of that. Those feelings are valid.
MMFY yea they gave Bari a chance
Dead Father | I was replying to the original commenter, not the person going on about A$AP Mob as if they're any example to follow morally.
Ameer was my favorite and it’s just super depressing to see the Saturation album covers. I was so hyped to see where they go from Saturation, and I’ll keep listening to them; but it just really sucks to have my favorite member outed. I support the decision, but I miss Ameer.
I mean shit I respect this group way more now. Ameer is literally the cover of all 3 Saturation albums so to kick him out is a major decision. It just shows how much of a role model this group is to me. To stand by proper morals even in situations like this
Jixaw fuck this social justice stuff dude, no one really cares if he mistreated women 3 years ago, he still does good music so fuck people morality, Michael Jackson was accused of pedophilia and he is still legend because of his talent regardless if he was a pedophile or not
Well the reality is that MJ was most likely not a pedophile and the people around him stood by him because of that. The people around Ameer cant stand by him. It's because something is wrong. We don't know all the details but we can tell how things are by the reactions of those around Ameer.
And if he was abusive something needs to happen man. It's not about "social justice stuff", its about being a decent human being. That's what social justice is actually supposed to be about anyway.
Oscar Lizarraga “social justice stuff”
stop. If you don’t think people should be punished for doing fucked up shit then sorry but you’re an idiot and people close to you would probably hate that you typed your comment.
There are more musicians out there anyways, if someone does something fucked up and gets what they deserved, there are millions of other groups / artists to choose from who don’t do fucked up shit.
Oscar Lizarraga You’re kind of proving my point. (Aside from all the justice warrior stuff) He was one of their core members, a really vital part of Brockhampton, yet they STILL stuck to their morals. Anyone with that much respect for women has my respect too and if you’re against that then ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Here’s how I view it [read the whole thing]:
If they kick out Ameer, they lose a great rapper that’s had a significant influence on the group’s music, piss off and possibly lose a lot of fans, and have to push back their album(s).
If they keep him in the group it makes a bad impression with the record label that JUST signed them and completely shatters their image. It makes them look insensitive, immoral, and selfish.
It’s really a lose-lose situation, and just like Tabby said, they did the best they could. As much as I love Ameer’s rapping, I think Brockhampton made the right decision in kicking him out. He needs to do some serious soul-searching, and the group has enough talent so that they can carry on without him.
Hopefully things’ll work out okay in the end but for right now this is how it is. So we need to learn how to deal with it.
The Best Pizza Connoisseur yeah I agree I believe they made the right decision. He can have time to recover and they can still pursue their dreams.i really hope he becomes a better person. And from his music he seems like he was trying to be
Like I said I hope time away from the band makes him better and I hope the girlfriend can recover. I hope this catharsis of hers helps her move one from what he did. I just hope they all come out better.
I don't think the fan backlash will be as huge as you may think. There's certainly a lot of people, inlcuding me, who would have really liked to see Ameer stay, but I think most of them will understand. Also, spot on on the group having enough talent. I've seen some comments say that Ameer's departure has damaged the group's ability in the long run, but I have more faith in them than that. Besides, tragedy such as this is great material to write for new music. Once enough time goes by for things to heal, there could be some incredible stuff from Brockhampton.
The Best Pizza Connoisseur this is the best reply.
Ameer kicked out of BROCKHAMPTON. Tabby joins
Low-Ki Friendship ended with Ameer, Tabby is new Brockhampton now
I've never been a BROCKHAMPTON fan, but I don't understand the controversy. Not only do they know way more about the situation than we do, but they are the ones running the business; they are able to make any decision they want.
tyler didn't kill bruno?
What song is that? I don't like Tyler's music but i'm curious hahaha
Frederick Core Yonkers
Right? And he didn’t crash B.o.bs airplane??
This is difficult.
I really don't know how to react as a BH fan.
Luis Serrano same
Luis Serrano i totally respect it they clearly know something we dont i respect them for not disclosing the other info and just getting the negativty out of the group this is really the only decision they could have made. If you listen to some of the verses like matts on junky they clearly have a huge problem with the way he acted and if he lied about it too then its entirely justified
You guys all sound like some cucks man. To many people lack mental strength these days, that’s how you end up with scumbags abusing people because they can’t deal with their own demons. I have 0 empathy for people like that, and anyone getting emotional because you’re a fan.....what in the actual fuck lol you should never care this deeply about people you actually don’t know, their artists they create and you consume, nobody ever told you to get attached to the creators. You never know these people
He should have listened to Matt's verse on Junky.
Andrei Ferariu too soon man
Colby S they were from 8 months ago at the least
I think we’re all going to miss Ameer
King Jay nah fuck him
Well, i'll miss his voice and stuff, yet not him as a person in general...
no. hes an abuser so fuck him
Yeah I will, but if he didn’t do what he did maybe this shot wouldn’t of happened. I’m fucking disappointed as hell since he was my favourite Brockhampton member, but I’m glad they kicked him out.
i felt ameer was an integral personality in the group and i’m gonna miss him...hopefully he recovers
wtf saying hope he recovers, listen to matt come back and say you hope the women find a way to recover
Liv Barnes we don’t know all the facts but the allegations were emotional and mental abuse...i do hope they recovered or will recover but ameer just lost his whole livelihood and dreams
And he’s on the cover on heaps of their albums and Eps too
Recovers?!?? He’s not an alcoholic or drug addict. The decision was is and will always be the band’s to make.
I don’t think there was much else they could’ve done about the situation. I respect their decision even though it is saddening
Imagine if all these allegations came up later in their careers. Ameer would be treated just like some ordinary rapper trash. Twitter would be quacking, "smh cANCELLED!!" The band would be accused of keeping this thing to themselves for too long, our "idols of the generation" proving themselves to be just some famous men who covered up their abusive pasts.
Even though I'm sad, I'm glad it happened now, as soon as possible. Because, with this, after Ameer really heals and grows, he still has a chance of coming back. But later down in their careers? He and the whole band would be completely ruined.
Talk that talk, Tabby. People are saying some absolutely ridiculous stuff. It’s hard to imagine that people actually live and breath with those kind of mindsets
They should kick Joba out because he's a chiropractor who breaks people's necks and that's not good practice
I miss goofy, high pitched voice Tabby. This Tabby’s scaring me...
lol
Before watching the video, I'm saying there's a lot of things that only Kevin and the others know, so we can't say they kicked Ameer out because of the accusations and the image (remember they said they were lied to).
Edit: okay that's what he says at beggining
fucking preach man the twitter comments were revolting with how some of the fans responded to this, there is so much ego and music ownership in the fans, acting like their opinion matters on the personal stuff of people they don't even know really
at the beginning of your comment i thought you said "fuck peach man" lol
Yeah social media is so toxic right now, Brockhampton has the worst fanbase. Period. Never seen such a large group of annoying people like the same artist lmao
Christian Bailey exactly!!! Saw this one guy saying they're irrelevant without ameer and i wasnt having it. We clearly don't know shit about this and people act as if they own bh or at least know them well enough to be able to dictate their decisions. As much as they respect us, we're FANS at the end of the day, our opinions aren't important in situations like this
Thank you for this. This is perfect commentary on the current situation.
Tabby about to drop some knowledge
Venenoso I just saw you yesterday 3 times
I see you everywhere lol
Venenoso why are you everywhere
so glad to see someone handling this discussion this maturely. keep it up man
Imagine having a hoodie for an album that doesn't exist
Bro your jawline mad sharp
iRetro fellas is it gay to compliment a nigga jawline???
I hope this was legitimate and not another case of character assassination.
If it's true, they did the right thing.
Rip Ameer he was kicked out for allegations without proof but of course we don't know the whole story so there may be proof. He's a guy trying to better himself and has openly expressed his background. This was the best decision right now for the other members. Hopefully once Ameer gets help he can come back
Adrian A. yeah obviously if they decided to kick him out they knew something we didn’t
He admitted to some of it, he denied the allegations about being with a minor.
They said they got lied to, there's obviously something we don't know
That's exactly how I feel
Flyer Alswie Möwen if they don't tell us I feel we're getting lied to...
About the second point, I completely disagree. Rappers who rap about grotesque things may not actually be killers, smugglers, etc etc, but alot of them come from those pasts or live in environments where those are very real experiences. Yeah, you can seperate the artist from the art, but when the art is a direct reflection of the life of the artist, thats impossible.
Take Junky. Kevin talks about being gay. Ameer talks about drug abuse. Matt talks about rape culture.
Take Milk. Ameer talks about his past hurting women. Merlyn talks about being alone in University. Matt talks about an existential crisis. Dom talks about depression.
Are you honestly gonna fucking sit there and say "oh Ameer is just joking" and act surprised these allegations came out?
Love u tho Tabby
Ameer’s verse in BLEACH makes me feel like he’s explaining everything to me💔😩 I’m gonna miss him so much. I hope he find redemption in himself💯
Man, it’s pretty rare that I see a TH-camr show emotion and I actually 100% believe it’s genuine. BH was such a beautiful thing and while it was the right choice to kick Ameer out (although I don’t hate Ameer I hope he gets better and Mabey even starts a small solo career later) Brockhampton will never be the same and while I will still be a fan, at the end of the day this is just a really shitty thing for everyone.
R.I.P. Brockhampton Golden Age. Your Everything that Perfect, damn.
The first 20 seconds of "Milk" are SO potent now :O
Black Brit With A Clean Room Really the whole song is more sad now
"I gotta get better at being me" :(
I got so excited when i heard him rap with that fast flow for the new album....
"And there's a couple women
and they know some things
about lies that I done told
and shit that I done said"
From when I first heard those lines I knew that was part of Ameer's character, but it hurts to hear it like this
I can’t listen to any of their songs the same anymore.
Aidan Moore same, and it hurts.
Kevin said Ameer was getting help for the past year. Why can't people better themselves nowadays? When people find out about someone's past, no matter what they're doing to better themselves we have to "cancel" them. There has to be more to the story because it doesn't make sense tbh
we're gonna miss the 'brockhampton flow' :(
yep
Thank U Tabby, u addressed this very well and opened my mind to realize how selfish I was being. Initially I was thinking this decision was a mistake but I now see it’s what’s best for the group overall. Still tho I would like to say that My biggest issue with this entire situation is towards the people on Twitter attacking Ameer rn. Ameer already seems suicidal and depressed through some of his lyricism. These people on Twitter boasting “fuck Ameer!” And rejoicing about it are just gonna make the situation worse for him. He needs space rn to figure this all out. People nowadays don’t believe in second chances and it pisses me off. He did terrible things and he 100% deserves the repercussions of that. But that doesn’t mean he can’t eventually change. People gotta remember that we’re human and we fuck up. I hope he can find himself and become a better person In the future. That’s just how I’m feeling towards this, if u disagree that’s fine but just reply kindly please lol. I’m very open minded and I really wanna hear how other people are feeling about this.
It would really suck if the face of the guy they kicked out was featured on multiple album covers, or if the guy they kicked out had some of the grittiest verses. Oh wait....
Damn gotta be tough for them, they had the year of their lifes in 2017 only to all this happen real quick, i hope Brockhampton keeps getting the praise that they were having before all this and that Ameer recovers himself becoming a better person in the future ( and MAYBE returning some day?)
Ameer needs to clean his image. Sad to say but this was a good idea to kick Ameer out. He honestly was the best rapper out of all of them and he did talk about what he did in some songs but no one seemed to care. If he weren’t kicked then it would make BrockHamptons image worse. Hopefully he can come back after he cleans his image but most likely won’t.
i want ameer to heal im homestly praying for him
this is literally the best response to all of this drama that i’ve heard thus far
Better than Fantano and especially than Shawn Cee
Mt Vagon Shawn Cee's response was far better. Tabby just had a tantrum by the midpoint.
I came home from outside to see this news on twitter, absolute heartbreak and a mood change.
Thank you so much for talking about this. I 100% agree with every single point you made. It really does suck because now we have no clue what’s going to happen next
Thanks for dropping the most well rounded, sensible response to this whole situation Tabby - it’s 100% needed especially when you take a look at some of the comments on this very video, keep it up brother.
Brockhampton obviously knows more about what happened than the public, but this decision still disappoints me. BH stood for brotherhood and friendship. This seems like abandonment rather than helping their brother make things right in his life and moving on. He is clearly sorry for his past actions through his lyrics and public statements. I think the last thing Ameer needs is abandonment by his closest friends and coworkers.
You mentioned that this was a family decision, which I agree with. That is exactly why I find it to be so disheartening. Would you “kick out” your brother from the family if you found out he was abusive to women in his past? Let alone before an actual trial with damning evidence. I truly hope this decision was made with Ameer’s consent rather than BH submitting to the masses’ judgment on his alleged behavior.
Regardless, this is a sad day for everyone involved.
Just because he is kicked out of Brockhampton doesn't mean he's kicked out of their lives or brotherhood. Obviously we don't know what the future will be for their relationship, but they are way too close to cut him out of everything. They wouldn't cry at their set & cancel the tour if this wasn't the hardest thing for them to do, ya know?
Tabby Fair point. Again BH knows more than we do, so maybe I’m allowing my emotions as a fan to affect my perspective, which as you mentioned is a selfish way of looking at things. At the end of the day, the most important thing is that Ameer does whatever he needs to straighten his path, and I hope as you said that the other BH members will continue to be there for him despite him not being involved with the group.
I agree. It seems to be out of selfishness and just for their 'brand image'. It's NOT black or white- to defend him or not- it's so much more than that.
BH stands against the culture of toxic masculinity & keeping Ameer would completely contradict it
But Ameer is trying to reform himself- keeping that image of him would make brockhampton mature.
This feels surreal. Uhg.
Initially I was very upset but at the end of the day this is the right choice. Regardless of what may of actually happened Brockhampton would be plagued with all the controversy surrounding Ameer. I think Brockhampton will be okay, I know they will continue to make great music and I hope Ameer gets the help he needs.
*big sad*
Look at the brightside, Tabby would / might be a good replacement. Fan turned member. Would bring a lot of personality and would bring in a new story and era to the group.
Sycamore Black Bh needs edge not tabby i love tabby but na its like the lakers having kobe to lonzo
Agree
I didn’t think too much about the allegations when they first appeared, as it was very much he said/she said. But now, seeing that the boys said they were lied to, it seems like they’ve made the right decision. Sad to see him go, but they were left with no other good choice.
I was really scared to click on this vid. I thought you’d be like all those toxic ppl on Twitter. You surprised me with how well said this was! Much love dude.
Its not just about the band, or our feelings, the most important feelings we need to take into consideration the victims feelings
I won’t get to hear “I” as frequent anymore in the songs ;-;
I know this is off topic, but was that man in the back at 8:38 a reflection?
Much respect for Tabby. Really wise words in this difficult times for any BH fan.
Yo heard about how at their set in Boston, the Brockhampton members stood silent during the Ameer parts? On Twitter there's a vid circulating of them not playing Ameer's part on Bleach.
I just hope they leave his verses on Puppy. Those snippets sounded fire.
wow u put everything i was thinking into this video. thanks for the sincerity and making this well thought out. most people on twitter insta etc are saying the dUMBest shit right now
Thanks for talking about this tabby
Are they gonna cut all his verses of the new album?
Where did you get your cap from Tabby?
I saw Ameer tweet that he has “never criminally harmed anyone or disrespected their boundaries”. Assuming this is true, why would he get kicked out? If he didn’t do anything illegal what’s the problem. I can obviously understand if he assaulted someone, but it just seems like he has had a history of disrespecting his partners. Which is obviously TERRIBLE, and shouldn’t be accepted. But idk I mean assuming he didn’t actually assault or abuse anyone, I don’t see why he should have been kicked out. Obviously I don’t know the whole story, or exactly WHAT Ameer did, so I guess I can’t really come to a definitive answer on whether or not he should be kicked out, so hopefully we get more information in the future
Wow, this is so well put. It really made me think about what’s going on, and how I were taking in everything. I realized how selfish I were being. One of the very first thoughts I had were: “omg I’m probably never going to see ameer in concert” and it sucks that I would even think that way, not even taking into account what he was being accused for. Thanks for opening eyes.
Truly hate the decision of Ameer being kicked out but this is understandable Bc of their reputation would have been on the line as you said. BH is and always will be a family, family makes hard decisions and this is the hardest thing to kick a brother out. Respect to you Tabby and respect to Brockhampton.
i was having doubts about this whole situation but youre so right. ultimately this was the right decision for the group and im so proud of them for following through with this because its what they stand for
Shit crazy...
I just hope Ameer and the rest are alright and mentally, physically and emotionally healthy. They are truly kind and creative people and I just want the best for them. I saw Joba and Dom crying on each other's shoulders at the show they had the day before they kicked him out and I just wanted to hug them 😥
Thank you for this video. People are forgetting that Brockhampton wants to promote positivity. The boys definitely know more than we do, and I respect their choice.
You are completely right.
The stuff you said about twitter and people not knowing anything and being shitty and toxic on Twitter really rang true with the recent passing of my favorite TH-camr and the way people have treated it. I'm also not sure how to feel about all of this. It hurts but they really had no other choice.
This dude turned on his camera, walked away, and walked back. THATS DEDICATION
I think you opened up an issue in rap culture today: the line or the blur between when a rapper is saying "fake" shit and when a rapper is really expressing something genuine. Case in point is Tyler, wherein he can make batshit offensive stuff like Bastard and Goblin and make personal stuff like Answer, Flower Boy. I understand that Ameer has never shaded away from the issues in his past, and I also understand that a big part of BROCKHAMPTON's identity as a boyband and as a brand is anti-abuse on women (example being Matt's verse in Junky), which is why I think kicking out of Ameer from the band is imo a good decision. Of course we don't or we may never know what truly happened in the context of Ameer's situation, but I believe that kicking him out is just the right thing to do in this very moment. I just wish they would have done it earlier to avoid all chaos breaking loose with the twitter "stan cancelling" culture right now, but I understand that being lied to by a fellow band member and a longtime best friend in your life would be hard to handle in a situation like this. I really hope Ameer finds some help, because I truly believe that he can change based on the way he expresses himself in his music. This is just my take on it.
The thing that worries me is when situations like this happen, people can sometimes be falsely accused for doing stuff like this. And this kind of stuff that happens can really damage a persons life, if they are wrongly accused. It’s stupid that no information is released on the matter because they might’ve just falsely accused him. Rip Ameer if the allegations are true
Tabby, just cause I’m curious (I agree with you completely) but what’s your take if they decided to fight with Ameer being that he’s a huge core of why BROCKHAMPTON is BROCKHAMPTON and say he’s still in the band and PUPPY is still going to have Ameer on it and suck it. Obviously it would create a huge rift with fans but what’s your take? (Ameer was personally my favorite member and I was hoping this wouldn’t happen, and feel it will critically change the group)
It was the safest move to do, especially on a record label now. That being said, I am extremely worried for Ameer's mental health, since Brockhampton was the greatest support group he probably ever had. Who knows where the band goes from here, but I will always enjoy the SAT trilogy.
this was the perfect decision not only because its better for them as a band but also because they have such a platform and set an example for many young kids that enjoy their music. I think they know that this just shows their fan-base that no matter how close someone is these things aren't okay and just sent that standard/example
I don't see why having this discussion now. We don't know what he did precisely, Brockhampton knows a lot more than we do. Why even discuss whether the decision is right or not when we do not know what the decision is based on?
I'm really going to miss ameer in the group. He was an integral part of the group, in my opinion, and I don't think the group will thrive the same- musically.
It seems that he has relationship issues with girls that feel wronged- it's not his fault that he doesn't like them the way they wanted them to, but it seems that he hasn't treated them the way they could have been treated.
I'm guessing a lot of where he comes from has to do with having been influenced by strong porn and by other artists that have gone through negative relationship/ sexual things. A lot of men go through this.
He expressed his true self through his music, and I can't understand if it's hard to separate the music from the artist, but I have a better way of understanding him at least. Not just under a label of 'abuser', but 'what happened to him that makes other people do that to him?'
So many girls have come forth as a way to make a 'wave' and have a 'sad image of being victimized', and some have been treated wrong it seems, from part of ameer's character. Not what he fully is. I do understand both sides and wish it could be resolved. And wish that ameer can grow into the person that he really is. Not this negative image.
If he was kicked out just for brockhampton's image, then frankly, I kind of see that as immature. It's not black or white- defending him or not- they should have all talked it out. Maybe it's part on ameer's dishonesty that he claimed towards the other members. But still... Nothing is resolved through selfishness.
If it was ameer's choice to leave for their image, then i hope he can be forgiven by those girls and hope that he can find his way. Can't imagine how tough it can be on him or the ladies. But most importantly, I hope the girls try to understand where ameer comes from.
thank u so much for using your position as a male to speak to these fans that are defending abusers and dismissing us feminine fans as "SJWs" or whatever else weak excuses they got for standing beside misogyny. we need more men and privileged people like this to help out our cause. appreciate it.
i completely agree with all your points. the fact people are making this decision about themselves rather than about the band is disgusting. imagine how much keeping ameer in the group would alienate their fans who have been abused
My knee jerk reaction was similar to big js, but than I read up on what happened and realized basically what you said in this video.
Rational thinking is one hell of a thing
The most annoying thing about all the discourse behind this is that no one gives a fuck about the victims’ pain or opinions on what should happen going forward. It’s always about what’s best for Ameer, best for the group, best for the fans, etc., but never about what’s best for the people who claim they’ve been hurt. It’s also disappointing that fans think an obviously socially progressive hip-hop group would not make the morally required decision of not allowing him to be apart of their music anymore. People online didn’t destroy his career, and the group kicking him off their records didn’t destroy it either. Ameer destroyed his own. The last thing that’s extremely annoying is that no one is giving this situation time to develop or evolve as Ameer, the group, and the victims work through the truth and pain of what did/didn’t happen on their own in private as the humans they are who need to go through that time-consuming, difficult, and painful process of forgiveness and reconciliation.
For all the fans crying about how this will ruin the group musically, you’re clearly not noticing how this group has taken every experience they’ve ever gone through individually or as a group and turned it into beautiful music. From a musical perspective, I only expect everything will get better, which certainly won’t ever make the alleged abuse or whole situation worth it, but let’s remember what group we’re talking about here. We never know if Ameer will always be gone or what will come of his career or life. That’s not what’s important though. The most important thing is fixing the pain he supposedly caused, and that’s why having him separate from the group/music/lifestyle of BH is the best decision for everyone, along with the other reasons Tabby already discussed. Even if these allegations aren’t true, it’s still he right decision to have him leave for now. Give it time and we’ll see what happens, but the last thing we’re gonna do is excuse abuse or shove an unreconciled toxic past under the rug and hope everything goes away. Thousands of BH fans showed their blatant misogyny today and I’m extremely disappointed and surprised.
The so called _SJWs_ didn't ruin Ameer's career. *Ameer Vann ruined his own career.* That's sad, but that's how the things are... i just hope Brockhampton can recover after this...
I just want you to know how much this opened my eyes. That exact tweet I retweeted bc I felt that the fans screaming “ kick him out” had basically caused all of this. I was being selfish and didn’t realize that this isn’t about me and that this is what’s best for the band. Not that I didn’t agree with their decision in the first place it just hurts that it’s official. I just... can’t fathom that when ( well not now since the canceled the rest of the tour) I go to a concert I can’t sing Ameers part. Someone I truely idolized. Being called the n word, being talked down on, people assuming your future.... It’s just not gonna be the same Brockhampton to me.
Man the tone of this video making it seem like Tabby getting kicked out of Brockhampton
Where can I found out what Ameer did? After an internet search I found that he had cheated, but there must be more to it then that.
Hey tabby , I will be posting this to my twitter feed as well so please feel free to read
Last night at 2am in a London hotel , I too was thinking about myself with this whole situation, I don't want ameer out, I don't want brockhampton to end , I said some bad shit about the girl 2, I was angry, I was tried.
After seeing the twitter post , I don't know what ameer did , no one will ever know , but it must be bad if they kicked him out after knowing each other for five years.
But looking at this now , you are right , I need to think about the conversation they had , the things they must have said ,the tears that was cried throughout it all! In my opinion, they did the right thing , hopefully they can regroup and still make great music.
I need to look at myself when I'm angry, and see how I can better myself.
Thank you Tabby,
Jamie
I hate that so many people are diminishing emotional abuse. “He didn’t hit anybody, he never raped her, what he did wasn’t that bad.” Nah fam. Emotional abuse well and truly fucks you up, messes with your perception of yourself and stops you having healthy relationships for a long ass time after. You can get PTSD from emotional abuse man. It’s not ‘not that bad’. I think Ameer’s voice was such an important part of the BH sound, abso-fucking-lutely, but I am not going to support an abuser.
Ameer was one of my favorite members of brockhampton, i felt disappointed about Ameer when i heard the allegations, obviously i don’t know the details only them but i think brockhampton did the right thing. So sad to see him go because of this...
Tabby, I feel you brother. This is the first I am hearing of this situation although since there was allegations against Ameer, BH had to cut ties with him, but if I can guess they will get him help as well as support him personally. Just not in the band. I agree as the band is concerned letting him go is the right decision.
okay, when the tweet went out, a piece of my mind thought that brockhampton had messed up and i really couldn’t handle it, but this video really...settled that feeling of disbelief and actually comprehending why they did it. i promise i’m not being sarcastic but thank you so much for making this video...everyone is hurting but those precious boys are going through even more...i’m still going to stand by them, hopefully people don’t unstan because of their decision regarding ameer...and ya :,)
Um, mister Tabby I'm pretty sure Tyler did kill Bruno
ameer being kicked out hurts, but its for the better
Ameers part in ready for war is so fucking heartbreaking to listen to now. The whole “havent talked to my friends about it because then its real” (paraphrasing). Like he’s got some real dark demons and i hope he recovers and may one day make a return to the scene but for now i agree 100% with you Tabby
This is the best decision, I understand how hart this situation is four the group but this is about respect the victims pain.
Lu Lozano I just wish they had more evidence of actual criminal wrongdoing rather than him just being "emotionally abusive"
Chris Malinowski | (edited to remove some misinformation) // I'm assuming they've talked to Ameer and he's confirmed things to them in private that led to this decision.
MMFY did he say that? I thought he said on instagram live that he never saw ameer hurt anyone? Maybe I missed something. But I agree I'm sure they have more information than the public. Maybe ameer admitted it to them. I just hope he will have an opportunity to come back and if not be able to make music of his own
Chris Malinowski | Sorry, I misremembered. I just rewatched and he was referring to not speaking out on this situation sooner (I'm gonna edit my original comment because I don't want to put misinformation out there). But Titus Gilner has definitely implied on Twitter that members of the group saw shit and looked the other way, though what exactly that behaviour was I can't say.
Going by BH's statement, they probably knew just enough that would make them look past his actions since he was also getting help. But in the statement they also said "we were lied to" so I'm assuming he copped to things to their face that he previously withheld.
EXACTLY! It’s disappointing af that it came too this but people need to understand that by keeping Ameer in this group, they would be justifying Ameer actions and that would go against all of there values.
my heart goes out to all the victims, i know it’s probably so hard for them to have to relive this and speak about it, i really hope they’ll be okay, what he did is inexcusable, bh did what they had to do
what did he do exactly?
It sucks that he was kicked out but honestly it was best for the group and for ameer. I completely respect their decision