My three-year-long Baby Karen story 0:00 Story 1 19:45 Story 2 author: /u/LightningStr and u/Unlikely_Librarian85 #reddit #redditupdate #redditrelationship
S-SSSURE. Let's see if this truly happens actually wait this might be the one because I messed up and watched this today instead of yesterday but if not then when I go to the next vid
I think that girl will chance her name after the years of being bullied because of her name (like someone that sound a bit like it but is not her real name Carmen, Clara or Kara)
WTF. I don’t agree with the AH score. OP was educating Steph on the modern meaning of the name. Kids get bullied for their names and OP wanted to give that baby a chance. How infuriating!
You're right, she didn't deserve that score but when she posted this was when the name Karen was barely starting to become a common word for "entitled" woman. And most redditors didn't believe that "Karen" was going to stick around.
At the time entitled parents weren't so huge like today the name Karen what's just a normal name before the name Karen got big so people were just thinking it's just a small meme it's not going to get big well today it got big
OP: "I'm trying to tell you something important!!" cousin: "Idontcare Idontcare! Meanie!!! A-hole!!!" *a few moments later* cousin: "Why didn't you tell me!? You should have forced me to listen!!!"
Way to NOT listen to the whole story... The only people who continued to escalate instead of apologize were the moms... and even THAT was mostly a trauma response
This is exactly what happened... obviously the other reply didn't listen to the whole story, funny a karen showed up during a story about a karen... lol fitting
@@cloudydays6374Even if they didn’t rename her, I’m sure she’d be alright. By the time she stops being a potato person, slang and the internet culture landscape would’ve probably changed.
@@devoteeofmediocrity821 we shall see but Karan has maintained its strong connotations throughout the years. But regardless, adults really won’t care so the problems will be during developmental years.
Story 2: ALLLLL of that could have been avoided if she had just been honest with her husband. The lying, the hiding, the running away, the guilt-driven sickness... only to turn around and say "i HaVe To dO wHaT's BeSt FoR mE".
It seemed way more like the wife’s problems were that she would never be the most important person in his life. Even if he wanted to be there for his sister, he could have tried to comfort his wife and assure her that he valued her. He only cared about her when she and his sister were gone. The situation with the BIL sort of led her to that realization. She could’ve handled some things better like addressing how she felt like with the BIL and the lack of bedroom activities, but she probably thought that he would mock her for wanting his attention again. Hopefully they’ve both learned from this and can find happiness with other people
How did they get voted TA? And being called selfish? That name is infamous. They were trying to share something that would very likely have an impact on the child's life, knowing her mother didn't know about it. Maybe they didn't say it right (who hasn't done that?), but they were trying to let her know so she could make an informed decision. Honestly, the only part I disagreed with was when they declined to discuss it with her when the subject was brought up again. That was the perfect opportunity because the mother was willing to listen to what was being said, and could've been better prepared for what would happen when she entered school
Because of the way she handled the situation. She somehow turned a very simple conversation into an absolute nightmare for a pregnant women to have to deal with. Its also blatently none of her buisness. Also she's too sensitive, "She's going to get bullied in school!" Ok, I both understand that, but for one second I need you to understand that she's probably either get bullied or be the bully at school at some point for something if someone really wants it to happen. Both of these combined make a pretty nasty situation. Its okay to be concerned a bit about stuff like that but knowing when to stop is just as important. Plus Karen is a really common name, so if she has a son and decides to name him kyle is this chick gonna be all over her again? TL;DR Know your lane and be mindful to stay in it. Know when your info is rejected and dust your boots off and move on when you realize this (As she finally did.) You may think of that as cruel and wanting to be a sore winner later on, but its simply acknowledging that they disagree and understanding that the more they push against it the worse things will get.
@@TeknoKID19 The concept of the kid is probably gonna get bullied, so it's an AH move to inform someone when they're willingly adding to the ammunition is wild.
@@sydneyps Not really my point since names really don't get you bullied that much. At most it's just going to be annoying having to deal with your name being attached to a meme. My point wasn't that she said anything about the name, it's the way she went about doing it.
I can understand in the 2nd story why OP just left, she was already set on moving with her husband at the beginning, but him putting her as a second priority and not being able to address some needs of her (be emotional or carnal needs) just made her decision easier to make and kinda gives props to OP for not acting on feelings, BUT I feel after she left her husband to go to the little town, she should've told her husband the truth. Let it be about the situation with BIL or their bed problems, all that resulted in just a mumbo-jumbo of pent-up desire and her ultimately signing the divorce just made her feel a level of freedom she hasn't felt on a long time. (And her rambles about her intimate life at the end just seem like it is what she wanted all along, nothing serious, just have a validation on her body by the opposite gender, or something like that)
what a stupid thing to say. the "having a ridicolous name"-issue is bullying. your answer is like the embodiment of dense. "don't cry kid. the bullys are just bad people!" ...and just like that there is no problem anymore?
The people bitching about OP in story two😂😂😂😂😂 Like you've clearly never been neglected before if you don't immediately take her side. Her story is a TEXTBOOK case of relationship neglect. (Not talking about the sex either) Her husband's ability to put literally anything else above his own wife(the person who should be his highest priority mind you) makes it so painfully obvious that she should have left years ago. He even didn't take her seriously when she wanted the divorce, proving he viewed her as a lesser person. Like this isn't even up for debate, she's in the right and she is so strong for putting up with him for that long.
Situations like these are why, when I give advice about handling certain behaviors, I like to be very specific that isolated incidents aren't a problem, but behavioral patterns and logic structure are.
Story 2 op was absolutely right to leave. A bedroom that has been dead and buried for 8 years and more importantly, a husband that puts his own wife's emotional needs after everyone else's are just not worth fighting for. And he only changed his tune a little after his sister gave him a small taste of the treatment he had been repeatedly giving op.
He picked his sister over his own wife even after she tried so many times to talk to him, he shut her down immediately and wouldn't hear any of it. Glad she left his pathetic a$$; family is important yes, but not at the expense of your spouse.
Why are they harassing OP instead of trying to consthe woman and her baby like they're just causing unnecessary drama and unnecessary issues via grown up and try to figure it out on your own? You already know she tried the first time and it went horribly. She's not gonna get into it again just because you guys want her to. 2 drama queens in a handbasket.
@@BioLivbanon Nah we FUCKING GOT KAREN'S DUMB ASS. We have to keep the Name alive as the sacrifice for long enough the world needs it. The world needs someone or some name to be the sacrifice term and the world will only need more and more as time goes on but for now we have to keep "Karen" Alive as the term it can't be replaced so quickly it must protect the other names for as long as possible while also showing you have to EARN the position to be the Slur Name.
I think it's infuriating and sad that op was voted tah for trying to help their friend not to name her child a modern slur. I can fully relate to them wanting to at least get understood, even if disagreed with. Additionally, op was manipulated into believing they were in the wrong. Especially considering how they backed down for the sake of peace just to have Karen be the laughing-stock in multiple situations. Though I'm glad they got to change her name, even just using the nickname seems like a great solution.
Seems like op was the only one who was looking out for her. Just makes the baby easy target for teasing among her peers. Kids are brutal, especially in middle school. I’m glad they changed her name and everything worked out. Story 2: L husband, just because you wanna be there for your sister doesn’t mean you have the right to neglect your wife. He won’t get her back now 😬 idk why people think that just because you’re married or trapped someone doesn’t mean you can treat them however you want, anyone can leave at anytime so don’t give them reason to. Relationships need constant respect and nurturing to survive
Her husband put just about everyone else above her and openly mocked her when she expressed or tried to express her own feelings. You're allowed to feel how you want, and judging by how whiney the husband would get over his wife not completely complying to his every demand, she couldn't have gotten out of there fast enough. I'm sorry but if you're lacking in a department(sexual emotional laborial etc) you need to be stronger in every other department. Sexless relationships can work and many do, but you can't just neglect for years and years and expect your partner to be okay with it. It also isn't your job to remind your partner to not neglect you, rather it is their job to not do so in the first place. The only clown here is you 🤡 😂
@@toxiczombiewolf5692 You’re blaming the victim. She failed to even communicate that. An adult. Couldn’t use her big adult words to let your partner know. Gtfah You clown.
If you only focus on the negative aspects then sure... but there was quite a bit of positive aspects in between that actually show a surprisingly healthy relationship if you are willing to put in the effort to look for it
OP was NTA but EVERYONE at that baby shower, her family and Stephanie were! 🙄 I’d go no contact with Stephanie and low contact with the rest of my family. Plus Stephanie runs her mouth too _____ much! She knows that when she vents to her mother, her mother will go and run her mouth to OP’s mother!
Eh. Surprised about the TA score but maybe the advice should have been to tell her in a better way? Like, she went with it with the tact of a truck so maybe she could have sit down with her in the internet and shown her what she meant? Nobody teaches you how to breach this absurd subjects so I get why she fumbled. In the end, OP was right. That’s a name that’ll cause trouble. OP just wanted the mom to be aware of it. Luckily the cousin didn’t remain stubborn and just changed it in time for the kid to grow up with less chance of bullying.
16:15 just dying laughing. Not saying everyone should just listen but they were warned. So this part had me rolling since OP got chastised about letting her know.
I really hate how the internet did ruin a good name like Karen for people who actually want to use it as their child’s name. Now people use it to call entitled people. I’m not sure how this whole “Karen” thing started or why Karen was even used at all in the first place. But I know a few Karen’s that ARE NOT entitled at all! It is sad to see if someone IS named Karen that they just automatically think they are entitled. That doesn’t define them at all! It’s how they act that defines them. And people that automatically stereotype something like this need to realize that.
The people who dont realize, that the people making fun of the name are the real Karens. Karen has nothing to do with the name, it has to do with the type of person you are lol.
All you owe your cousin is just one apology and even that it's out of courtesy. It's not your fault that she's ignorant and petty. Your actions were well intentioned, no need to feel bad about it.
Story 2 She needs to know that the problem is that she didn’t tell him about the brother and even later that she wanted sex. She wasn’t communicating it’s extremely frustrating from other perspectives.
In general one should Google a name before giving it to a child. Lucky for Karrie she was too young to have a lot of documents. As for Stephanie, pregnancy brain, man.
sOME people berate OP2 for not being honest about everything- but excuse me? Have you seen how she is treated when being honest about wanting 'some' of his attention? Being honest about your need and issue can be hard for anyone, and even more so when this is how her husband treat her.
To everyone acting like the YTA was unwarented, you're the type of terminally online people that are why the name Karen has this negative connotation. It's a FUCKING name. Every english name has some dark history tied to it. Kids will literally make fun of anything and everything. It doesnt matter.
So my mom’s name is Karen. She was the best. Unfortunately lost her to cancer earlier this year. She had the hair cut but not the terrible clothing choice. Never once did she ask for a manager. She was the manager. Neighbor with annoying yappy dog that would bark for hours. Never a complaint. The rest of the family did. She put us in our place saying it was her house and if it bothered her she would say something. 5’4” woman would put you in you place even if you are 6’6” bad ass in the military. I don’t fear the name Karen, I fear Kathy. My aunt. Rest in peace mom. Hopefully your brothers aren’t pranking you too much.
Yeah its gonna be a tease\bully target name, but no karen the name isnt what the title "Karen" is it was just what name sounded both like a soccer mom and like some lady who'd be delulu in a obnoxious way. Mostly as it sounds sarcastic like a opposite for careing. And yeah not everyone is online savy so i can see others doing thier kid dirty without knowing. Some are just stupid and op did thier best to stop a bad social decision.
It keeps surprising me how such a very good friend who has done so much for you could considered that you dare to be mean with whathever but specially regarding her baby. So much good friends but Stephanie's concept of you is awful. This happens to me kind of often with my friends: not only they don't understand but they react because think I am being mean!/ I still practicing not to talk at all.
That first story is very similar to one of my own, my sister gave birth to a daughter and the name she chose is often associated with a whore who sleeps with everyone, but I chose to not bring it up since its technicly just a name and what other people think of it should have no meaning
Probably the best way to begin would be reassuring her that Karen is a lovely name but unfortunately has become a very rude slang term. Very short, simple and conveys the issue clearly.
I was one of the people on the Negative Side I was like "They are going to be bullied for that name." They are just a Karen and they might have ended up a Karen and such. It's crazy how Caroline kinda sounds like Karen but internet let's not make another word the representation of a term we already have enough of that. But yeah we really made something people used as a pretty common-uncommon name and made it this kind of Term similar to the N-Word (I have Black blood I'm just not trusting YT). It seems the ending in the end was good in the end but hmm... Now to put on the conspiracy hat as I do for most and really just this is becoming more of a fun trend. If you wonder when this story has chances of being fake well there are 2 main points. The first is just the concept and the second is when the kids are kinda bullying the name because it's just to cliche in a way that is less believable than the others
I will say this, Stephanie not listening to op and naming Karen, Karen, was a bad move. But I get, she didn’t know, like we think all memes will die eventually and it’s just a name at the end of the day, no big deal. The problem I have is grown ass adults are being rude and unprofessional to a child because of her name, to the point the parents have to legally change it which is unfair because that’s the name she knew her entire life. With the kids bullying her, i get it, kids being mean is nothing out of the ordinary, everyone expected that to happen. But, adults?! Really?! The child is literally a toddler! It’s sad. I’m glad the parents decided to change the name for their child’s sake but I know it hurt them to do so.
Stephanie owed that apology. Pregnancy hormones are NOT an excuse for being unreasonable. Stop trying to downplay how you were treated. You weren't mean or selfish about it. You were genuine. I find that Karma came back on Stephanie for having to call her kid by a nick name.
7:26. You really could have just explained what a Karen was it'll take 2 minutes and it would have resolved the whole thing know you wanted to prolong that shit smh
Oh I forgot this had 2 Stories. As for the Ex-Wife Story I think she should just follow her path and try to get with the guy. I feel like I've felt a similar feeling before maybe I'm just trying to pretend to be someone I don't know anything about but Sometimes you won't get another chance to ask again and she kinda feels like the kind of person who is making herself suffer more than they need to in order to try and deny who they like who they fantisize about
Sorry the subtitles are a bit messed up at times for this video, won't happen anymore in the future
I can see that 11:17
S-SSSURE. Let's see if this truly happens actually wait this might be the one because I messed up and watched this today instead of yesterday but if not then when I go to the next vid
Man the people calling her the asshole because she wanted the best for the kid is truly a Reddit moment
in aita you are given YTA if you dont mind your business according to them
I think that girl will chance her name after the years of being bullied because of her name (like someone that sound a bit like it but is not her real name Carmen, Clara or Kara)
WTF. I don’t agree with the AH score.
OP was educating Steph on the modern meaning of the name. Kids get bullied for their names and OP wanted to give that baby a chance. How infuriating!
You're right, she didn't deserve that score but when she posted this was when the name Karen was barely starting to become a common word for "entitled" woman. And most redditors didn't believe that "Karen" was going to stick around.
At the time entitled parents weren't so huge like today the name Karen what's just a normal name before the name Karen got big so people were just thinking it's just a small meme it's not going to get big well today it got big
I’d say ESH because if how he tried to describe his worries was nonsensical, he just basically told her the name sucks and is a meme
OP: "I'm trying to tell you something important!!"
cousin: "Idontcare Idontcare! Meanie!!! A-hole!!!"
*a few moments later*
cousin: "Why didn't you tell me!? You should have forced me to listen!!!"
Way to NOT listen to the whole story...
The only people who continued to escalate instead of apologize were the moms... and even THAT was mostly a trauma response
This is exactly what happened... obviously the other reply didn't listen to the whole story, funny a karen showed up during a story about a karen... lol fitting
Howd they say she was an asshole. She wasn’t making fun. Shedve been the asshole if she said nothing.
Thread was probably full of a bunch of Karen's.
Yea that threw me off too
Reddit logic
with a name like Karen i hope the kid will be fine in the future
Considering they legally renamed the girl, I’m sure she’ll be fine
@@cloudydays6374Even if they didn’t rename her, I’m sure she’d be alright. By the time she stops being a potato person, slang and the internet culture landscape would’ve probably changed.
@@devoteeofmediocrity821I can't believe people are turning the name Karen into a bad word. I truly despise society. It's an anti white slur anyway.
@@Zellonous Slow your roll Cletus. It’s an anti btch slur. Race has nothing to do with it.
@@devoteeofmediocrity821 we shall see but Karan has maintained its strong connotations throughout the years. But regardless, adults really won’t care so the problems will be during developmental years.
Story 2: ALLLLL of that could have been avoided if she had just been honest with her husband.
The lying, the hiding, the running away, the guilt-driven sickness... only to turn around and say "i HaVe To dO wHaT's BeSt FoR mE".
Wow so both of the stories have a similar thing where it could have been avoided if honestly and listening existed
Tbh the husband doesn't seems to be the sharpest knife either. They were meant to be together.
It seemed way more like the wife’s problems were that she would never be the most important person in his life. Even if he wanted to be there for his sister, he could have tried to comfort his wife and assure her that he valued her. He only cared about her when she and his sister were gone. The situation with the BIL sort of led her to that realization. She could’ve handled some things better like addressing how she felt like with the BIL and the lack of bedroom activities, but she probably thought that he would mock her for wanting his attention again. Hopefully they’ve both learned from this and can find happiness with other people
In this case, marriage counciling before separation would be the best next step
So a karen is birthing a karen and is being defended by online karens. This is truly a reddit moment
I mean I'm sure the wife is a nice lady but she refused to listen and found out the consequences
She only has herself to blame
How did they get voted TA? And being called selfish? That name is infamous. They were trying to share something that would very likely have an impact on the child's life, knowing her mother didn't know about it. Maybe they didn't say it right (who hasn't done that?), but they were trying to let her know so she could make an informed decision. Honestly, the only part I disagreed with was when they declined to discuss it with her when the subject was brought up again. That was the perfect opportunity because the mother was willing to listen to what was being said, and could've been better prepared for what would happen when she entered school
Because she was trying to pussyfoot around the issue. Just tell her it's going to get her bullied.
Because of the way she handled the situation. She somehow turned a very simple conversation into an absolute nightmare for a pregnant women to have to deal with. Its also blatently none of her buisness.
Also she's too sensitive, "She's going to get bullied in school!" Ok, I both understand that, but for one second I need you to understand that she's probably either get bullied or be the bully at school at some point for something if someone really wants it to happen.
Both of these combined make a pretty nasty situation. Its okay to be concerned a bit about stuff like that but knowing when to stop is just as important. Plus Karen is a really common name, so if she has a son and decides to name him kyle is this chick gonna be all over her again?
TL;DR Know your lane and be mindful to stay in it. Know when your info is rejected and dust your boots off and move on when you realize this (As she finally did.) You may think of that as cruel and wanting to be a sore winner later on, but its simply acknowledging that they disagree and understanding that the more they push against it the worse things will get.
Karin wasn’t so big in the time of the original post, it was only limited to redit if my memory don’t fail me
@@TeknoKID19 The concept of the kid is probably gonna get bullied, so it's an AH move to inform someone when they're willingly adding to the ammunition is wild.
@@sydneyps Not really my point since names really don't get you bullied that much. At most it's just going to be annoying having to deal with your name being attached to a meme. My point wasn't that she said anything about the name, it's the way she went about doing it.
My favorite part about story 1 was the end when they unpacked their generational trauma
So corny 💀
I can understand in the 2nd story why OP just left, she was already set on moving with her husband at the beginning, but him putting her as a second priority and not being able to address some needs of her (be emotional or carnal needs) just made her decision easier to make and kinda gives props to OP for not acting on feelings, BUT I feel after she left her husband to go to the little town, she should've told her husband the truth. Let it be about the situation with BIL or their bed problems, all that resulted in just a mumbo-jumbo of pent-up desire and her ultimately signing the divorce just made her feel a level of freedom she hasn't felt on a long time. (And her rambles about her intimate life at the end just seem like it is what she wanted all along, nothing serious, just have a validation on her body by the opposite gender, or something like that)
I think the people who made fun of baby Karen are the real Karen's
what a stupid thing to say.
the "having a ridicolous name"-issue is bullying.
your answer is like the embodiment of dense.
"don't cry kid. the bullys are just bad people!" ...and just like that there is no problem anymore?
You are right but sadly their actions will scar you
If you bully a girl enough for being named Karen that girl will have a chance to become a stereotype Karen
The people bitching about OP in story two😂😂😂😂😂
Like you've clearly never been neglected before if you don't immediately take her side. Her story is a TEXTBOOK case of relationship neglect. (Not talking about the sex either) Her husband's ability to put literally anything else above his own wife(the person who should be his highest priority mind you) makes it so painfully obvious that she should have left years ago. He even didn't take her seriously when she wanted the divorce, proving he viewed her as a lesser person. Like this isn't even up for debate, she's in the right and she is so strong for putting up with him for that long.
Situations like these are why, when I give advice about handling certain behaviors, I like to be very specific that isolated incidents aren't a problem, but behavioral patterns and logic structure are.
Story 2 op was absolutely right to leave.
A bedroom that has been dead and buried for 8 years and more importantly, a husband that puts his own wife's emotional needs after everyone else's are just not worth fighting for.
And he only changed his tune a little after his sister gave him a small taste of the treatment he had been repeatedly giving op.
story 2 husband realized he wasn’t number one in his sisters life like she is in his and wants back with op from the looks of it
He picked his sister over his own wife even after she tried so many times to talk to him, he shut her down immediately and wouldn't hear any of it. Glad she left his pathetic a$$; family is important yes, but not at the expense of your spouse.
Why are they harassing OP instead of trying to consthe woman and her baby like they're just causing unnecessary drama and unnecessary issues via grown up and try to figure it out on your own? You already know she tried the first time and it went horribly. She's not gonna get into it again just because you guys want her to. 2 drama queens in a handbasket.
Is Karen even a nice name? Like why fight for it so hard 😂
How can your own husband abandon you like that that is so sad I normally don’t get sad but him throwing that beautiful marriage made me hurt
Imagine naming your kid karen that's setting them up for bullying
She didn’t know
@@Mago369and didnt even try to. That's being ignorant
In a few years that name will be forgotten. Probably for another "infamous" name.
@@BioLivbanon Nah we FUCKING GOT KAREN'S DUMB ASS. We have to keep the Name alive as the sacrifice for long enough the world needs it.
The world needs someone or some name to be the sacrifice term and the world will only need more and more as time goes on but for now we have to keep "Karen" Alive as the term it can't be replaced so quickly it must protect the other names for as long as possible while also showing you have to EARN the position to be the Slur Name.
@biolivbanon9378 Yeah, people have said that, and the meme is still here.
I think it's infuriating and sad that op was voted tah for trying to help their friend not to name her child a modern slur. I can fully relate to them wanting to at least get understood, even if disagreed with. Additionally, op was manipulated into believing they were in the wrong. Especially considering how they backed down for the sake of peace just to have Karen be the laughing-stock in multiple situations.
Though I'm glad they got to change her name, even just using the nickname seems like a great solution.
Seems like op was the only one who was looking out for her. Just makes the baby easy target for teasing among her peers. Kids are brutal, especially in middle school. I’m glad they changed her name and everything worked out.
Story 2: L husband, just because you wanna be there for your sister doesn’t mean you have the right to neglect your wife. He won’t get her back now 😬 idk why people think that just because you’re married or trapped someone doesn’t mean you can treat them however you want, anyone can leave at anytime so don’t give them reason to. Relationships need constant respect and nurturing to survive
How tf is someone TA for saying "Hey just so you know this meme exists."
Story 2
So she never communicates her feelings to her husband and expects him to just accept whatever she wants 🤡
Her husband put just about everyone else above her and openly mocked her when she expressed or tried to express her own feelings. You're allowed to feel how you want, and judging by how whiney the husband would get over his wife not completely complying to his every demand, she couldn't have gotten out of there fast enough. I'm sorry but if you're lacking in a department(sexual emotional laborial etc) you need to be stronger in every other department. Sexless relationships can work and many do, but you can't just neglect for years and years and expect your partner to be okay with it. It also isn't your job to remind your partner to not neglect you, rather it is their job to not do so in the first place. The only clown here is you 🤡 😂
Because he never cared to listen they're both at fault looks like a case of relationships neglect
@@toxiczombiewolf5692
You’re blaming the victim. She failed to even communicate that. An adult. Couldn’t use her big adult words to let your partner know.
Gtfah
You clown.
So the story is OP gets shit on for trying to help then gets shit on by her mom and aunt for not helping enough and they changed the kids name anyway.
If you only focus on the negative aspects then sure... but there was quite a bit of positive aspects in between that actually show a surprisingly healthy relationship if you are willing to put in the effort to look for it
15:59 Oh my god, I just got here... I would explode trying to hold in the I told you so's.
OP was NTA but EVERYONE at that baby shower, her family and Stephanie were! 🙄
I’d go no contact with Stephanie and low contact with the rest of my family. Plus Stephanie runs her mouth too _____ much! She knows that when she vents to her mother, her mother will go and run her mouth to OP’s mother!
Eh. Surprised about the TA score but maybe the advice should have been to tell her in a better way? Like, she went with it with the tact of a truck so maybe she could have sit down with her in the internet and shown her what she meant?
Nobody teaches you how to breach this absurd subjects so I get why she fumbled.
In the end, OP was right. That’s a name that’ll cause trouble. OP just wanted the mom to be aware of it. Luckily the cousin didn’t remain stubborn and just changed it in time for the kid to grow up with less chance of bullying.
I feel awful that some kids be laughing at a girl name karen hurts
16:15 just dying laughing. Not saying everyone should just listen but they were warned. So this part had me rolling since OP got chastised about letting her know.
Communication is a super power eh?
I really hate how the internet did ruin a good name like Karen for people who actually want to use it as their child’s name. Now people use it to call entitled people. I’m not sure how this whole “Karen” thing started or why Karen was even used at all in the first place. But I know a few Karen’s that ARE NOT entitled at all! It is sad to see if someone IS named Karen that they just automatically think they are entitled. That doesn’t define them at all! It’s how they act that defines them. And people that automatically stereotype something like this need to realize that.
I have a sneaking suspicion it was Dane Cook making a joke about "the friend nobody likes".
that kids getting bullied for sure "called it"
This story is what happen when you let the terminally online dictate the english lexicon
The people who dont realize, that the people making fun of the name are the real Karens. Karen has nothing to do with the name, it has to do with the type of person you are lol.
people forget that humans arent 2 dimensional
All you owe your cousin is just one apology and even that it's out of courtesy. It's not your fault that she's ignorant and petty. Your actions were well intentioned, no need to feel bad about it.
Damn that's gonna be a big "i told you so" In 13 years. Poor kid
The name change was a good idea. OP seems to have her head screwed on straight.
Story 2 She needs to know that the problem is that she didn’t tell him about the brother and even later that she wanted sex. She wasn’t communicating it’s extremely frustrating from other perspectives.
In general one should Google a name before giving it to a child. Lucky for Karrie she was too young to have a lot of documents. As for Stephanie, pregnancy brain, man.
sOME people berate OP2 for not being honest about everything- but excuse me? Have you seen how she is treated when being honest about wanting 'some' of his attention? Being honest about your need and issue can be hard for anyone, and even more so when this is how her husband treat her.
To everyone acting like the YTA was unwarented, you're the type of terminally online people that are why the name Karen has this negative connotation. It's a FUCKING name. Every english name has some dark history tied to it. Kids will literally make fun of anything and everything. It doesnt matter.
So my mom’s name is Karen. She was the best. Unfortunately lost her to cancer earlier this year. She had the hair cut but not the terrible clothing choice. Never once did she ask for a manager. She was the manager. Neighbor with annoying yappy dog that would bark for hours. Never a complaint. The rest of the family did. She put us in our place saying it was her house and if it bothered her she would say something. 5’4” woman would put you in you place even if you are 6’6” bad ass in the military. I don’t fear the name Karen, I fear Kathy. My aunt. Rest in peace mom. Hopefully your brothers aren’t pranking you too much.
Yeah its gonna be a tease\bully target name, but no karen the name isnt what the title "Karen" is it was just what name sounded both like a soccer mom and like some lady who'd be delulu in a obnoxious way.
Mostly as it sounds sarcastic like a opposite for careing. And yeah not everyone is online savy so i can see others doing thier kid dirty without knowing.
Some are just stupid and op did thier best to stop a bad social decision.
It keeps surprising me how such a very good friend who has done so much for you could considered that you dare to be mean with whathever but specially regarding her baby. So much good friends but Stephanie's concept of you is awful. This happens to me kind of often with my friends: not only they don't understand but they react because think I am being mean!/ I still practicing not to talk at all.
Daughter will hate mother
That first story is very similar to one of my own, my sister gave birth to a daughter and the name she chose is often associated with a whore who sleeps with everyone, but I chose to not bring it up since its technicly just a name and what other people think of it should have no meaning
hello everyone , what's the name of the song?
Probably the best way to begin would be reassuring her that Karen is a lovely name but unfortunately has become a very rude slang term. Very short, simple and conveys the issue clearly.
I was one of the people on the Negative Side I was like "They are going to be bullied for that name."
They are just a Karen and they might have ended up a Karen and such.
It's crazy how Caroline kinda sounds like Karen but internet let's not make another word the representation of a term we already have enough of that.
But yeah we really made something people used as a pretty common-uncommon name and made it this kind of Term similar to the N-Word (I have Black blood I'm just not trusting YT).
It seems the ending in the end was good in the end but hmm...
Now to put on the conspiracy hat as I do for most and really just this is becoming more of a fun trend.
If you wonder when this story has chances of being fake well there are 2 main points.
The first is just the concept and the second is when the kids are kinda bullying the name because it's just to cliche in a way that is less believable than the others
30:04. She should have said our relationship is suffering. Context ,+
Bro, start qa checking your vids...
(ie. subs arent synced well)
Story 1 good but story 2 just put me in a bad mood
Bad decisions were made but at 32:53 I believe there's nothing wrong with getting back with your husband
I will say this, Stephanie not listening to op and naming Karen, Karen, was a bad move. But I get, she didn’t know, like we think all memes will die eventually and it’s just a name at the end of the day, no big deal.
The problem I have is grown ass adults are being rude and unprofessional to a child because of her name, to the point the parents have to legally change it which is unfair because that’s the name she knew her entire life. With the kids bullying her, i get it, kids being mean is nothing out of the ordinary, everyone expected that to happen. But, adults?! Really?! The child is literally a toddler! It’s sad. I’m glad the parents decided to change the name for their child’s sake but I know it hurt them to do so.
What? Cat food? 12:13
Uhhh....I don't agree with the judgment. She is NTA. She was trying to inform her friend. She wasn't being mean.
Stephanie owed that apology. Pregnancy hormones are NOT an excuse for being unreasonable. Stop trying to downplay how you were treated. You weren't mean or selfish about it. You were genuine.
I find that Karma came back on Stephanie for having to call her kid by a nick name.
7:26. You really could have just explained what a Karen was it'll take 2 minutes and it would have resolved the whole thing know you wanted to prolong that shit smh
Like why would you go back on your original concern
Nta all the people that said yta are dumb sorry not sorry
Oh I forgot this had 2 Stories.
As for the Ex-Wife Story I think she should just follow her path and try to get with the guy.
I feel like I've felt a similar feeling before maybe I'm just trying to pretend to be someone I don't know anything about but
Sometimes you won't get another chance to ask again and she kinda feels like the kind of person who is making herself suffer more than they need to in order to try and deny who they like who they fantisize about
That BLM thing was so cringe. Centeral park karen was in the right.
So was OP she tired to help her friends kid out with life long bullying
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 BLM was cringe somewhat, and Central Park karen was stupid as eff
Mother and Aunt are reactionary and super annoying.