The edits of L1 videos are just fantastic, the cuts to archival footage, work logs, and product listings, are so on point! Love them! Today's best bit was highlighting the Lucent article :) Whoever you are editor, nice job!
I have my PC on a bookshelf behind my desk, the monitor arms are mounted to the shelf along with camera and lights for Corona remote stuff. This decouples the monitors from wobbling along with the desk, and gives me tons of space for wiring, power strips, tools, a network switch, external hard drives, and even books, while keeping the desk free from clutter
The placement of the 49" LG OLED below keyboard level is brilliant. It's less tiring for your neck to look down than up and it's the only way your eyes can be level with the top 50% of the screen.
LOL my public library had those in the late 90s I loved them... seeing them again reminded me of geocities chat rooms all the hijinks that came with them
This is actually the kind of viewing angle I switched to when i had to use a standing position due to back issues. It’s not as fancy, but my solution was to get a separate height adjustable laptop stand put in front of my existing desk and the monitor arms I swapped the thru rod for a longer one and placed through a few wood blocks on the desk so the monitors could raise to where i needed it. It’s much more ergonomic and less fatiguing on the eyes. My solution also has the benefit of the keyboard tray not connected to the desk so there is no wobble on the monitors or the mic and cameras attached to the desk.
You see a lot of in-desk monitor setups in British stores. It secures the computers and keeps the surface clear for helping customers and making sales through the teller system.
My high school still had monitors in desks like that when I graduated in 2019. I personally didn't like them, but it was mainly used for privacy, not comfort.
I love it. I am so jealous right now. I think adding an ultrawide to the middle in the top and keeping the other two in addition to another vertical on the side would give the perfect wrap around experience. As a web developer you always need so much documentation open and that way I could have JS, CSS, DOM, SQL on the peripheral screens while working on the main display (Shells, VS code, and Live Preview). I lose so much productivity because I am always looking for the right tabs.
Really really great idea! Especially the keyboard independant of desk height is something ive been toying with for quite some time and this is the most elegant solution I have yet seen
For Christmas I bought my girlfriend one of those cheap Amazon arms, for her birthday I got her one of those super fancy laptop trays for her graphics table. She absolutely love her little ergonomic setup now. Next step is matching standing desks. I'm kind of falling in love with the idea of an adjustable keyboard tray though. Was look at some great pull out option so my keyboard can live underneath the desk when not actively using it.
I've got an Ikea Galant corner desk right now with a 3+1 monitor setup (28" in middle, two 27" flanking, 1 27" up top). I've wanted a sit-stand desk for a while. I love what you did with this...especially that keyboard platform. Gave me all sorts of ideas. The monitor arms I use are from Monoprice....and definitely match the price I got them at. They support my 27" monitors, but do sag a bit at times.
My dream desk is a battlestation that has an all rigid metal polyhedral core on a 3 or 4 post stem square stock for legs (very heavy). 6 possible articulating gas assisted arms come out of the "sun" for various uses with varying articulation heights and lengths, customizable. Also attached to the posted frame is a solid wood desk that acts as a counterbalance to the leaned back orientation of the "sun" to reorient the whole desk's center of gravity to the center and where the user would press down most. The desk surface is height adjustable and attached to the desk very much like what Wendel did, is a cutout for keyboard/mouse/other peripherals but not in one piece. Two pieces. One each individually single hand adjustable for rotate, height, tilt (with a lock knob) orientation and depth adjustment (slider) for KB and M separately with like Wendel's, the ability to rise above the desk level without getting in the way of your legs in a seated position. Everything made of powder coated steel and built like a flipping tank so there is as minimal wobble as possible when really grinding on it. It would be called the "Black Queen" because spiders and if done right probably cost in the 3 to 5k range if mass (limited because cost but still assembly line) produced with quality materials. For now I'll deal with my hack job of a table on other tables with all the articulation attachments I could ever want (so long as the center of gravity is correct). Only, my garage job is not height adjustable nor does it look as cool. But independent mouse and keyboard articulation.. I will never go back to a flat desk or singular adjustability. The range of movement and orientations I can sit in comfort while sitting, working is... I can't go back to a single surface. They have to be individually adjustable by a single twist of the hand.
Oooooooh 64 cores VFIO machine.. thank you Wendell,. Your lvl2 switch is a dream to work with! I pass 2 screens, my usb headset, mouse and keyboard from my host to my guest in vfio and even better, my usb are thought the usb C of my rx6800xt ! Love the setup! A bit jealous of the tr4 tho.... My poor 3900x .. maybe I'll upgrade to a 16 am4 someday to have 8 core guest VM one one ccx. If the prices drop on those.. a guy can dream lol
monitor arms definitely can make more efficiient use of cramped areas. In my home, we use an older ethan allen dining room table with an extension leaf inserted as a desk. On that desk, we have 3 computers - my main rig with 2 27" monitors on monitor arms, then an lg 3440x1440 screen on monitor arm that is shared by our secondary gaming rig and my wife's work laptop. sure makes it super easy to push monitors around depending if wife needs to work, or we can get into some gaming at night.
for the 2 monitors that are above your OLED display, what are those beams that are holding them up? I assume it's custom made beams, but more importantly, how did you get the spaceco arms to attach to those beams? i really like those spaceco arms but their prices are a bit too much :(
I made a setup similar to that except without a desk, just used a mobile tv stand with monitor arms attached to box section clamped to the legs. I also use a monitor arm for my keyboard that just swivels out the way when not in use.
Two of my hobbies are computers and woodworking. This is a great video! I currently have an Uplift desk but with painted plywood as the desktop. I have walnut that I intend to use as the top but I'm having a hard time planning the wood down flat (I only have hand planes). The idea of having adjustable keyboard is amazing because I can only have the monitors and keyboard to be comfortable when I'm either standing or sitting, but not both.
If you still need that tabletop planned and have a vehicle, you could take it to a lumberyard, they would probably only charge like $10 to plane both sides down for you.
Always thought those monitor-under-desk setups were practical and cool until I had to use one for 30 days in a course I took. Between the neck pain and bumping my knee, I lost the fascination. Maybe with the flat screens today instead of the CRTs we had back then it could be a thing. I'll see how you like it. Good stuff.
Need more mouse space for some sick flicks! Love this setup. I've been trying to envision and map out an idea that can consolidate my AV and PC setups and something like this gives me some excellent ideas on how to follow-through. Having that TV a bit below eye level is crucial, I bet as you continue to use it you'll come to enjoy it even more.
Very nice, given me a few ideas. The monitor-under-the-desk thing (that I didn't know was an actual thing until now) was what I had in mind when I bought a glass-topped desk... 13 years ago... Still haven't gotten around to it. I moved a while ago, and you know how they say "there's nothing more permanent than a temporary solution"? Well, I threw things together in the first configuration that was vaguely usable, with the intention of sorting something out later... 6 months later and I haven't changed a damn thing.
I got the longest arm Spaceco offers (the long xp one) because it allows me to use my monitor in a few more locations in my dorm room, but it doesn't work very well with my XG35VQ. Once it moves the slightest amount it keeps wobbling forever (fun when my desk moves a millimetre). It also doesn't help that the screen is curved and therefore the centre of gravity is a bit too far forward, so adjusting the ball joint near the screen is a pain. Sadly I have to adjust it every time I move the monitor as the second and third arm on it bend a lot under the weight of the monitor. What I would really want is a more stable monitor arm, one which is at least as stable as the arm with the gas strut in it, but then for all of them (even the gas strut visibly bends under the couple of kg that I put on it, but it is at least a lot better). I would also want one which has adjustable springs in the mounting mechanism near the screen to offset the weight of the screen when adjusting the tilt of it. In a perfect world the monitor would just more or less float freely on this arm and I can adjust it to wherever I want and it stays there without wobbling around for another 5 minutes. Any ideas whether something like that exists?
Thinking about Arcade games, I ended up building some 'look down' setup, with fixed keyboard area.. Those mechanics from Lucent are gorgeous. Got to find some air pistons.
I bought 4 of those Husky 96" x 24" butcher block tables from Homedepot in summer last year at the peak of the thing. I was so paranoid I left them sitting outside in their box for 6 days in the sun before dragging them into the garage. The price was so good with free shipping it was impossible to pass up.
I dunno.. I've been wanting a netrunner recliner with monitors that lower down over the top.. cause VR desktops seem like they suck.. it would take the weight off the headset when reclined?
Sorry if this is a dumb question (or has already been asked): Where do you get cheap used office furniture and tech - like those monitor arms or desks (which Wendell mentioned came from business closures at Wall Street)? ... All I ever seem to find are overpriced "refurbished" items or really, really USED items from private sellers... Is there some special Ebay magic involved?
12:50 This is the cable management you should do when you start finding cables on your desk that are part of the spaghetti but not connected on either end anymore.
Cool video! I read that the most ergonomic position for a keyboard it tipped away from you. I used my wrist pad under the closest edge of the keyboard and found it very comfortable. Seems like that would go well with this set up as well.
This looks really nice. A very interesting project, and some good concepts here I hadn't considered. Thanks for bringing up these concepts and viewpoints. I don't know if you thought about it that way, but this is kind of going back to first principles of what you want to do with a desk, and optimizing those use-cases.
I’m also upgrading my desk tomorrow... coming from a good Costco Desk with 2 4K 27 inch and one vertical 2K 24 inch to a sit stand one with a tri monitor vesa mount
I’m saving my War pension up to buy my first ever gaming pc, hopefully by September I should have enough saved an maybe the stores will actually have CPU’s and GPU’s in stock by then.
Hop over to Microcenter's website and see if you are near any of their stores. By me they have had several new high end CPUs in stock pretty regularly (even the 5600x & 5800x, at retail price). Getting a GPU will be difficult thanks to crypto currency miners. You can try EVGA's waitlist program, sign up for all of their GPUs that interest you, when your turn is up you have 8hrs to decide to or not to purchase a card (I'd recommend their 3070 and below, their 3080 & 3090 lists are backed up where even sign ups from months ago haven't been fulfilled)
Thanks for showing your process, Wendell - fab Megadesk. I just know everyone wants to read about _my_ rig, so ... I have a 1980 Mobler Furniture teak veneered scandihoovian design dining table aka computer desk - one leaf extended - 68"x32" with an amazon monitor arm for my Acer 34" ultrawide. My Claymore Core and M65 play on a Gamers Nexus mat - sorry, Wendell. The ol' 2016 i7-6850K Broadwell E X99 H440 1080 SLI monster anchors on the table end without extension. A cheap amazon computer chair provides all the adjustment I need for comfortable gaming and typing. All this said - er, _typed_ I earnestly encourage you - and others - to create new setups and share the results. TTFN.
After building 3.2m x 1.5m L shape custom wooden top that floats on console strut channel wall-mounts (completely free space underneath), I don't really get your vision of ergonomics. Yes, my bench is not sit-stand, but it already is made exactly for my height, has plenty of space (0.6m wide) so I at least got some place for arms to not hang in the breeze, not to mention space for PC bench and electronics lab workspace.
Great project, and good results. I personally wouldn't put a computer case on a desk tho. I would put it on the ground, and route all the cables. Then just use some nice USB hub to connect keyboard, mouse, DAC, and any other stuff I sometimes connect (pendrive, portable hard drive), etc.
He was talking about doing this :) in the video. He has a SpaceCo under-desk holding mount. He just hasn't had time yet. His plan is to put it under the desk with multiple other PCs and use the Level1 KVM to switch between several PCs. ~ Editor Amber
That's be cool! If you do it make sure you put out a video. I've thought about something like that as well, with a projector inside the pedestal rather than attaching monitors. I also thought about building an integrated keyboard with arcade pushbuttons rather than a conventional keyboard. Ha! but then I thought of all of the drilling that would be necessary just to make an ergonomically questionable keyboard and dumped the idea.
The standup desk has its features for sure for weight loss and staying healthy, but I find it almost impossible to ditch a proper corner desk in favor of it. The wrap monitor aesthetic is far superior. Also those top monitors are going to give you one hell of a neck strain if you need to look at them for any length of time :P
*Ad commentary - Wendel:* "Ample USB connectivity..." *Shows a rear I/O with only 6 USB-A ports.* *ME:* You can call it "ample" when you have at least 8 USB-A ports. Mine has 13 total.
I stumbled across this video randomly. I did a similar thing with my "desk". The keyboard and mouse tray are directly on monitor arms, and there is no desk surface. Three 32" monitors are mounted to the wall. There's a narrow shelf on the wall below the monitors.
I had two motivations/considerations (other than deliberately being nerdy): Remove space where clutter would gather, and make it easier to wave VR controllers around without hassle. I can swing the keyboard out of the way, and test VR stuff quickly without smacking the desk.
Here's a question I think you have never heard. Which motherboard manufacturer has mastering grade audio converters on board? I don't think there are any, but I was hoping that you could find out what converters the various manufacturers use for each motherboard. Many builders have been marketing their PC builds as best for music production, so I thought it was only fair that we be told what converters are built into onboard audio. Perhaps manufacturers will begin creating offerings for music creators.
I was always taught that your monitor should have the top edge at your eye level. Looking down at a monitor kinda feels like it would be a bit of strain on the neck - I remember back in the day when I was in school where I would get a stiff/sore neck from reading stuff on the desk.
Okay, I really love this setup (for computers, but also for some other tools). I am wondering if there is an update in the works. Do you still like it? Is there anything you have changed?
Im too stuck on keyboard trays. Ive had a keyboard tray for every personal setup. Typing on a keyboard that is just on the desk feels so unnatural and I end up sitting super close to everything. I really enjoy the ergonomics of just pulling out the tray and bringing it towards me.
hey I have a erelevent question. but i noticed you have a Brick Home. I live in a cold place and the ground tends to shift a lot. have you noticed Cracking on walls? I am about to build a home in the next 2 years but trying to avoid Wood Construction(aka Cheap Prefab) Thanks from the neighbors to the north.
you should make your backgrounds an eye on the top right monitor, an eye on the top left, and a goofy grin on the main monitor like in FA:NV Old World Blues
What about getting an OLIVETTE BCS3030 and removing the back of the desk and gut it and replace all electronics with the new hardware, the old 8" Duel Floppy/Printer unit could be replaced with an empty cabinet fitted out with 20x 100 TiB SSD drives in a RAID array+RAID controller connect everything up and replace the back panel and replace the monitor with a LCD monitor and the keyboard with a new keyboard.
I'd honestly be kinda afraid of the desktop falling over, or being knocked down, but other than that, i love this. Might actually take this as inspiration for my desk setup... once the pandemic is over and i can afford to buy computer hardware again.
He was talking about doing this :) in the video. He has a SpaceCo under-desk holding mount. He just hasn't had time yet. His plan is to put it under the desk with multiple other PCs and use the Level1 KVM to switch between several PCs with ease. ~ Editor Amber
Kinda only works if you have the two-up-one-down kinda setup I think. With the large screen on the bottom your not looking up far for the two top monitors, everything is more centralised around where your vision naturally sits (especially when standing) I kinda like that. Although judging by how many people I know that have mounted their TV up near the ceiling I think I might be in the minority. I never did understand why people do that?
This is something I wish I had the money to do myself. Before Wendell mentioned the portrait monitor on the side I was thinking this might be great for a portrait monitor, then five seconds later in the video he mentioned it.
I've got my 55" C8 on a simple desk, but i'm probably going to buy a monitor arm to have a side monitor and upgrade do something that LG releases after the CX. Saddly its near impossible to buy a electric standing desk for a good price.
@Level1Techs Hey Wendel I have tried numerous keyboard trays they are all junk. They don't make any reasonably sized trays especially for playing games. Where can you find the mechanism for that desk. I am very interested. A model number or old sale on ebay helps a ton!
OMG, 2 weeks ago, Home Depot messed up online, (apparently again?) I bought 2 x 8' butcher blocks for less than the 6' options of the same wood. Just picked them up a couple days ago, for an entire basement remodel to house my new BeQuiet 802 Mesh, and Samsung G7. Yeah, the office I had wasn't worthy of the new PC I am building....the entire basement wasn't worthy.
Ngl, this would be a nice upgrade from my lovely ikea fredde which has been nicely housing my 40" 4k and 2x 1440p panels, but man I want to put a similar keyboard tray together.
This would've been a 3 episode, 6 month project on LTT. Looks great!
with a billion ads
Wow, lvl1 is literally built out of the corpses of failed companies.
I wonder if he's Level 1 because he's too smart to promote, having gained so much from so many other companies :D
this is the way
wait till amd releases a 128 core thread ripper he will be like oh shit time to upgrade yet again I need 128 cores lol
Not only dead ones. Also Google servers
Gold
That underwhelming cable management "snap" lol
Corporate needs you to find the difference between these two pictures lol
Yeah, I thought he was going to manage the cables. What happened?
Well he did say "a little bit" 12:50
cable management is overrated
*Cables on chaos
"Let's manage those cables"
*Cables on slightly less chaos
This is so sick! The ultimate usable battlestation/workstation!
If olny I had housing security then I would build out something grand like ol Wendel here, for now though its portable or bust
eh if you say so choom
@@charlesballiet7074 so it burns out fast lol
The edits of L1 videos are just fantastic, the cuts to archival footage, work logs, and product listings, are so on point! Love them! Today's best bit was highlighting the Lucent article :) Whoever you are editor, nice job!
I have my PC on a bookshelf behind my desk, the monitor arms are mounted to the shelf along with camera and lights for Corona remote stuff. This decouples the monitors from wobbling along with the desk, and gives me tons of space for wiring, power strips, tools, a network switch, external hard drives, and even books, while keeping the desk free from clutter
people are coming up with such interesting remote setups lately, I like yours
The placement of the 49" LG OLED below keyboard level is brilliant. It's less tiring for your neck to look down than up and it's the only way your eyes can be level with the top 50% of the screen.
"This video is brought to you by an Intel motherboard."
"I'm using a 64-core Threadripper."
this ... make me laugh too xD ..poor intel
Thought the exact same thing. 😅🤣😂
"Getting hooked on Megadesk was my own damn fault...getting more Megadesk, that is all I care about"
Nice, I was waiting for the Dwight quote :)
My high school Linux lab built desks with the monitors in the desks exactly like that
What a highschool
LOL my public library had those in the late 90s I loved them... seeing them again reminded me of geocities chat rooms all the hijinks that came with them
_meanwhile, my school only uses Linux-based firewall servers, making them extremely good at catching everything_
This is actually the kind of viewing angle I switched to when i had to use a standing position due to back issues.
It’s not as fancy, but my solution was to get a separate height adjustable laptop stand put in front of my existing desk and the monitor arms I swapped the thru rod for a longer one and placed through a few wood blocks on the desk so the monitors could raise to where i needed it.
It’s much more ergonomic and less fatiguing on the eyes. My solution also has the benefit of the keyboard tray not connected to the desk so there is no wobble on the monitors or the mic and cameras attached to the desk.
I've honestly thought of doing this a bunch of times, just didn't know if it would actually be better. I might just try this now
Could we get some additional details additional details monitor (TV) mount/frame/stand?
So good Wendal- I love the combination of a bunch of tried and tested products you love and making something that is uniquely you.
6:59 Upper Iowa University in Waterloo, Iowa had these a decade ago. We nicknamed the desks _Sneeze Guards_ 🤦♂️
You see a lot of in-desk monitor setups in British stores. It secures the computers and keeps the surface clear for helping customers and making sales through the teller system.
My high school still had monitors in desks like that when I graduated in 2019. I personally didn't like them, but it was mainly used for privacy, not comfort.
I love it. I am so jealous right now. I think adding an ultrawide to the middle in the top and keeping the other two in addition to another vertical on the side would give the perfect wrap around experience. As a web developer you always need so much documentation open and that way I could have JS, CSS, DOM, SQL on the peripheral screens while working on the main display (Shells, VS code, and Live Preview). I lose so much productivity because I am always looking for the right tabs.
That Uplift Megadesk desk looks so nice Wendell!
This is pretty near perfect! I love the way the keyboard+mouse stand is adjustable in addition to the height of the desk.
Really really great idea! Especially the keyboard independant of desk height is something ive been toying with for quite some time and this is the most elegant solution I have yet seen
Patently the best intro/outro music on ANY channel anywhere.
For Christmas I bought my girlfriend one of those cheap Amazon arms, for her birthday I got her one of those super fancy laptop trays for her graphics table. She absolutely love her little ergonomic setup now. Next step is matching standing desks. I'm kind of falling in love with the idea of an adjustable keyboard tray though. Was look at some great pull out option so my keyboard can live underneath the desk when not actively using it.
I've got an Ikea Galant corner desk right now with a 3+1 monitor setup (28" in middle, two 27" flanking, 1 27" up top). I've wanted a sit-stand desk for a while. I love what you did with this...especially that keyboard platform. Gave me all sorts of ideas.
The monitor arms I use are from Monoprice....and definitely match the price I got them at. They support my 27" monitors, but do sag a bit at times.
My dream desk is a battlestation that has an all rigid metal polyhedral core on a 3 or 4 post stem square stock for legs (very heavy). 6 possible articulating gas assisted arms come out of the "sun" for various uses with varying articulation heights and lengths, customizable. Also attached to the posted frame is a solid wood desk that acts as a counterbalance to the leaned back orientation of the "sun" to reorient the whole desk's center of gravity to the center and where the user would press down most. The desk surface is height adjustable and attached to the desk very much like what Wendel did, is a cutout for keyboard/mouse/other peripherals but not in one piece. Two pieces. One each individually single hand adjustable for rotate, height, tilt (with a lock knob) orientation and depth adjustment (slider) for KB and M separately with like Wendel's, the ability to rise above the desk level without getting in the way of your legs in a seated position. Everything made of powder coated steel and built like a flipping tank so there is as minimal wobble as possible when really grinding on it. It would be called the "Black Queen" because spiders and if done right probably cost in the 3 to 5k range if mass (limited because cost but still assembly line) produced with quality materials.
For now I'll deal with my hack job of a table on other tables with all the articulation attachments I could ever want (so long as the center of gravity is correct). Only, my garage job is not height adjustable nor does it look as cool. But independent mouse and keyboard articulation.. I will never go back to a flat desk or singular adjustability. The range of movement and orientations I can sit in comfort while sitting, working is... I can't go back to a single surface. They have to be individually adjustable by a single twist of the hand.
Oooooooh 64 cores VFIO machine.. thank you Wendell,. Your lvl2 switch is a dream to work with! I pass 2 screens, my usb headset, mouse and keyboard from my host to my guest in vfio and even better, my usb are thought the usb C of my rx6800xt ! Love the setup! A bit jealous of the tr4 tho.... My poor 3900x .. maybe I'll upgrade to a 16 am4 someday to have 8 core guest VM one one ccx. If the prices drop on those.. a guy can dream lol
monitor arms definitely can make more efficiient use of cramped areas.
In my home, we use an older ethan allen dining room table with an extension leaf inserted as a desk. On that desk, we have 3 computers - my main rig with 2 27" monitors on monitor arms, then an lg 3440x1440 screen on monitor arm that is shared by our secondary gaming rig and my wife's work laptop. sure makes it super easy to push monitors around depending if wife needs to work, or we can get into some gaming at night.
for the 2 monitors that are above your OLED display, what are those beams that are holding them up? I assume it's custom made beams, but more importantly, how did you get the spaceco arms to attach to those beams?
i really like those spaceco arms but their prices are a bit too much :(
I made a setup similar to that except without a desk, just used a mobile tv stand with monitor arms attached to box section clamped to the legs. I also use a monitor arm for my keyboard that just swivels out the way when not in use.
Two of my hobbies are computers and woodworking. This is a great video! I currently have an Uplift desk but with painted plywood as the desktop. I have walnut that I intend to use as the top but I'm having a hard time planning the wood down flat (I only have hand planes). The idea of having adjustable keyboard is amazing because I can only have the monitors and keyboard to be comfortable when I'm either standing or sitting, but not both.
If you still need that tabletop planned and have a vehicle, you could take it to a lumberyard, they would probably only charge like $10 to plane both sides down for you.
Always thought those monitor-under-desk setups were practical and cool until I had to use one for 30 days in a course I took. Between the neck pain and bumping my knee, I lost the fascination. Maybe with the flat screens today instead of the CRTs we had back then it could be a thing. I'll see how you like it. Good stuff.
I am really keen to find out if this setup is more comfortable than other types of desk configurations. Hope there is a follow up.
Need more mouse space for some sick flicks!
Love this setup. I've been trying to envision and map out an idea that can consolidate my AV and PC setups and something like this gives me some excellent ideas on how to follow-through. Having that TV a bit below eye level is crucial, I bet as you continue to use it you'll come to enjoy it even more.
Very nice, given me a few ideas.
The monitor-under-the-desk thing (that I didn't know was an actual thing until now) was what I had in mind when I bought a glass-topped desk... 13 years ago... Still haven't gotten around to it.
I moved a while ago, and you know how they say "there's nothing more permanent than a temporary solution"? Well, I threw things together in the first configuration that was vaguely usable, with the intention of sorting something out later... 6 months later and I haven't changed a damn thing.
I got the longest arm Spaceco offers (the long xp one) because it allows me to use my monitor in a few more locations in my dorm room, but it doesn't work very well with my XG35VQ. Once it moves the slightest amount it keeps wobbling forever (fun when my desk moves a millimetre). It also doesn't help that the screen is curved and therefore the centre of gravity is a bit too far forward, so adjusting the ball joint near the screen is a pain. Sadly I have to adjust it every time I move the monitor as the second and third arm on it bend a lot under the weight of the monitor.
What I would really want is a more stable monitor arm, one which is at least as stable as the arm with the gas strut in it, but then for all of them (even the gas strut visibly bends under the couple of kg that I put on it, but it is at least a lot better). I would also want one which has adjustable springs in the mounting mechanism near the screen to offset the weight of the screen when adjusting the tilt of it. In a perfect world the monitor would just more or less float freely on this arm and I can adjust it to wherever I want and it stays there without wobbling around for another 5 minutes. Any ideas whether something like that exists?
The idea of looking down at the monitor makes my neck hurt.
That's like the main reason I bother with monitor arms..
Thinking about Arcade games, I ended up building some 'look down' setup, with fixed keyboard area.. Those mechanics from Lucent are gorgeous. Got to find some air pistons.
Why do I love this so much.....
"Manage those cables a little bit!" Nothing changes, hah I love you Wendel.
Some fine tuning and this could possibly be one of my favorite looking setups.
I bought 4 of those Husky 96" x 24" butcher block tables from Homedepot in summer last year at the peak of the thing. I was so paranoid I left them sitting outside in their box for 6 days in the sun before dragging them into the garage. The price was so good with free shipping it was impossible to pass up.
I dunno.. I've been wanting a netrunner recliner with monitors that lower down over the top.. cause VR desktops seem like they suck.. it would take the weight off the headset when reclined?
You can just keep adding arms and monitors, and make your own screen-bubble.
Use a 65'' tv as a door
Sorry if this is a dumb question (or has already been asked):
Where do you get cheap used office furniture and tech - like those monitor arms or desks (which Wendell mentioned came from business closures at Wall Street)?
... All I ever seem to find are overpriced "refurbished" items or really, really USED items from private sellers...
Is there some special Ebay magic involved?
One of the best videos you have made, just need some iron on laminate strip to clean up the bare edges.
12:50 This is the cable management you should do when you start finding cables on your desk that are part of the spaghetti but not connected on either end anymore.
Cool video! I read that the most ergonomic position for a keyboard it tipped away from you. I used my wrist pad under the closest edge of the keyboard and found it very comfortable. Seems like that would go well with this set up as well.
This looks really nice. A very interesting project, and some good concepts here I hadn't considered. Thanks for bringing up these concepts and viewpoints.
I don't know if you thought about it that way, but this is kind of going back to first principles of what you want to do with a desk, and optimizing those use-cases.
I’m also upgrading my desk tomorrow... coming from a good Costco Desk with 2 4K 27 inch and one vertical 2K 24 inch to a sit stand one with a tri monitor vesa mount
I’m saving my War pension up to buy my first ever gaming pc, hopefully by September I should have enough saved an maybe the stores will actually have CPU’s and GPU’s in stock by then.
Keep it up and everyone believes in you
Hop over to Microcenter's website and see if you are near any of their stores. By me they have had several new high end CPUs in stock pretty regularly (even the 5600x & 5800x, at retail price).
Getting a GPU will be difficult thanks to crypto currency miners. You can try EVGA's waitlist program, sign up for all of their GPUs that interest you, when your turn is up you have 8hrs to decide to or not to purchase a card (I'd recommend their 3070 and below, their 3080 & 3090 lists are backed up where even sign ups from months ago haven't been fulfilled)
@@rjhacker thank you
@@stringsofair8039 good advice thank you.
There are CPUs available. GPUs are the issue.
We need an updated look. All hail mega desk
Thanks for showing your process, Wendell - fab Megadesk.
I just know everyone wants to read about _my_ rig, so ... I have a 1980 Mobler Furniture teak veneered scandihoovian design dining table aka computer desk - one leaf extended - 68"x32" with an amazon monitor arm for my Acer 34" ultrawide. My Claymore Core and M65 play on a Gamers Nexus mat - sorry, Wendell. The ol' 2016 i7-6850K Broadwell E X99 H440 1080 SLI monster anchors on the table end without extension. A cheap amazon computer chair provides all the adjustment I need for comfortable gaming and typing. All this said - er, _typed_ I earnestly encourage you - and others - to create new setups and share the results. TTFN.
After building 3.2m x 1.5m L shape custom wooden top that floats on console strut channel wall-mounts (completely free space underneath), I don't really get your vision of ergonomics.
Yes, my bench is not sit-stand, but it already is made exactly for my height, has plenty of space (0.6m wide) so I at least got some place for arms to not hang in the breeze, not to mention space for PC bench and electronics lab workspace.
Well I gotta say I've never considered my computer to be a "desk accessory" before. But I guess...
yeah I love this setup, going to have to start building something similar
I'd be interested in knowing how you find screen burn in after a few months on the oled.
LOL. At 10:40 got a “Prime Cables” YT ad for monitor mounts
Great project, and good results. I personally wouldn't put a computer case on a desk tho. I would put it on the ground, and route all the cables. Then just use some nice USB hub to connect keyboard, mouse, DAC, and any other stuff I sometimes connect (pendrive, portable hard drive), etc.
He was talking about doing this :) in the video. He has a SpaceCo under-desk holding mount. He just hasn't had time yet. His plan is to put it under the desk with multiple other PCs and use the Level1 KVM to switch between several PCs. ~ Editor Amber
7:06 hmm thinking about making a workstation out of an arcade stand
That's be cool! If you do it make sure you put out a video. I've thought about something like that as well, with a projector inside the pedestal rather than attaching monitors. I also thought about building an integrated keyboard with arcade pushbuttons rather than a conventional keyboard. Ha! but then I thought of all of the drilling that would be necessary just to make an ergonomically questionable keyboard and dumped the idea.
Can't see myself ever sitting so close of a giant 48" TV. It's eye destroying. So much light in your face. Ideal for seeing individual pixels though
The standup desk has its features for sure for weight loss and staying healthy, but I find it almost impossible to ditch a proper corner desk in favor of it. The wrap monitor aesthetic is far superior. Also those top monitors are going to give you one hell of a neck strain if you need to look at them for any length of time :P
*Ad commentary - Wendel:* "Ample USB connectivity..." *Shows a rear I/O with only 6 USB-A ports.*
*ME:* You can call it "ample" when you have at least 8 USB-A ports. Mine has 13 total.
I stumbled across this video randomly. I did a similar thing with my "desk". The keyboard and mouse tray are directly on monitor arms, and there is no desk surface. Three 32" monitors are mounted to the wall. There's a narrow shelf on the wall below the monitors.
I had two motivations/considerations (other than deliberately being nerdy): Remove space where clutter would gather, and make it easier to wave VR controllers around without hassle. I can swing the keyboard out of the way, and test VR stuff quickly without smacking the desk.
Here's a question I think you have never heard. Which motherboard manufacturer has mastering grade audio converters on board? I don't think there are any, but I was hoping that you could find out what converters the various manufacturers use for each motherboard. Many builders have been marketing their PC builds as best for music production, so I thought it was only fair that we be told what converters are built into onboard audio. Perhaps manufacturers will begin creating offerings for music creators.
I was always taught that your monitor should have the top edge at your eye level. Looking down at a monitor kinda feels like it would be a bit of strain on the neck - I remember back in the day when I was in school where I would get a stiff/sore neck from reading stuff on the desk.
6:38 therabar sighting ✊👊👍
I get a similar effect using an underdesk keyboard tray and a 17" monitor tilting up from the desk. Comfortable af.
Okay, I really love this setup (for computers, but also for some other tools). I am wondering if there is an update in the works. Do you still like it? Is there anything you have changed?
Im too stuck on keyboard trays. Ive had a keyboard tray for every personal setup. Typing on a keyboard that is just on the desk feels so unnatural and I end up sitting super close to everything. I really enjoy the ergonomics of just pulling out the tray and bringing it towards me.
Is that 2077 in the thumbnail ?!! :))
hey I have a erelevent question. but i noticed you have a Brick Home. I live in a cold place and the ground tends to shift a lot. have you noticed Cracking on walls? I am about to build a home in the next 2 years but trying to avoid Wood Construction(aka Cheap Prefab) Thanks from the neighbors to the north.
always trust in Wendell... because, reasons
_engagement_
you should make your backgrounds an eye on the top right monitor, an eye on the top left, and a goofy grin on the main monitor like in FA:NV Old World Blues
SCIENCE!
I love this! Are you still using this desk, do you think it's worth the effort trying to re-create?
What about getting an OLIVETTE BCS3030 and removing the back of the desk and gut it and replace all electronics with the new hardware, the old 8" Duel Floppy/Printer unit could be replaced with an empty cabinet fitted out with 20x 100 TiB SSD drives in a RAID array+RAID controller connect everything up and replace the back panel and replace the monitor with a LCD monitor and the keyboard with a new keyboard.
We used those in desk monitors in industrial-like situations a lot.
I really like this setup. Thanks for sharing!
I'd honestly be kinda afraid of the desktop falling over, or being knocked down, but other than that, i love this. Might actually take this as inspiration for my desk setup... once the pandemic is over and i can afford to buy computer hardware again.
He was talking about doing this :) in the video. He has a SpaceCo under-desk holding mount. He just hasn't had time yet. His plan is to put it under the desk with multiple other PCs and use the Level1 KVM to switch between several PCs with ease. ~ Editor Amber
I hope to see an update on this. I am envious of those monitor arms.
This is one cubbersome/crazy/packed setup. Hmmm. Where did you get that part that allow you to ajust the keyboard height?
11:28 nostalgia from before the dark ages.
Love it, nice change of pace.
I'm surely missing something, but someone please explain to me why looking down would be ergonomic?
Kinda only works if you have the two-up-one-down kinda setup I think. With the large screen on the bottom your not looking up far for the two top monitors, everything is more centralised around where your vision naturally sits (especially when standing) I kinda like that. Although judging by how many people I know that have mounted their TV up near the ceiling I think I might be in the minority. I never did understand why people do that?
No strain to neck?
Found an alternate arm system made by Grandstands their dual lift arm looks almost the same from the product sheet. $700 though.
I love the function over asthetics too...
I got a butcher top for my desk that I’m building as well. Really solid.
This is something I wish I had the money to do myself. Before Wendell mentioned the portrait monitor on the side I was thinking this might be great for a portrait monitor, then five seconds later in the video he mentioned it.
The fact that the two overhead monitors arent the same size irks me some.
The Picard in me: "THERE ARE FOUR MONITORS!!"
no there are 5
@@snekkel THERE ARE
FOUR
LIGH... uhhh I mean Monitors!
@@ClintTheriault have some live taspar and than i will ask you again.. How many monitors?
The LG CX is so nice btw i see you run it on, the 3090 what HDR mode do you use in Cyberpunk ? (have the same screen and 3090 )
0:04 My rocket was never more ready for a take-off! Thanks rocket lake!
I've got my 55" C8 on a simple desk, but i'm probably going to buy a monitor arm to have a side monitor and upgrade do something that LG releases after the CX. Saddly its near impossible to buy a electric standing desk for a good price.
that looks epic i got 5 monitors also everywhere in the room, need to do something like this
I didn't know there were height adjustable keyboard mounts. Thanks, Just ordered one.
No problem 👍 ~ Editor Amber
I would _love_ to know what monitors those are. They look like they could make a sick PLP setup.
@Level1Techs Hey Wendel I have tried numerous keyboard trays they are all junk. They don't make any reasonably sized trays especially for playing games. Where can you find the mechanism for that desk. I am very interested. A model number or old sale on ebay helps a ton!
OMG, 2 weeks ago, Home Depot messed up online, (apparently again?) I bought 2 x 8' butcher blocks for less than the 6' options of the same wood. Just picked them up a couple days ago, for an entire basement remodel to house my new BeQuiet 802 Mesh, and Samsung G7. Yeah, the office I had wasn't worthy of the new PC I am building....the entire basement wasn't worthy.
and a new broom in the corner to finish the setup!
How has the burn in OLED issue been, notice any? Especially in a day to day workstation env
Ngl, this would be a nice upgrade from my lovely ikea fredde which has been nicely housing my 40" 4k and 2x 1440p panels, but man I want to put a similar keyboard tray together.