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Thanks for creating all this content, i have one observation for your consideration: you always finish your videos by saying "thank you for making it until the end". Of course you mean the end of the videos, but considering all crashes involving also lot of people dying at the end of the story, the word "end" has kind of a weird double meaning. Maybe it's just me...
The frightening thing about this crash is that it had nothing to do with a defect in the plane or one of the chains of misunderstandings between crew and ATC that so often are the cause of crashes. This was 100% the result of a stunning amount of incompetence by what should have been an experienced and highly qualified flight crew.
Yep, it's as if they had just suddenly found themselves in the cockpit of a 777 as it came in to land. Bizarre. How could they not have realised the need to go around?
And it's reported that they are STILL flying for Asiana, which, I'm ok with. Mistakes happen. But God forbid a cop has to shoot a (black) person attacking them, that cop is fired and criminally charged... for doing the job they were tasked with, and saving their own lives at the time (at least in the USA).
@@stargazer2504 That almost never happens. (That is, the cop being criminally charged.) Cops are always given the benefit of the doubt by the District Attorney's office, with whom they work side by side on a daily basis. Even when the cop commits egregious misconduct, they usually just get a slap on the wrist. When Columbia County (Florida) Sheriff's sergeant Randy Harrison and deputy Jayme Gohde falsely arrested a blind man "without probable cause" (according to Sheriff Mark Hunter’s own statement), Sgt. Harrison was suspended for a mere seven days, and Gohde for only two. Worse, when off-duty King's County (Washington) Sheriff's detective Richard Rowe pulled his gun on a motorcyclist without good cause (which is a felony) he was not charged with a crime. Instead, despite a lawsuit resulting in a $65,000 payout to the victim, the only punishment that Defective Rowe got was a 5-day suspension.
@@stargazer2504 How is that last part relevant to anything???? Plus there are far more corrupt and lawbreaking cops and police e departments than there are airline companies, in the US and worldwide.
@@Blackwolffe097 thanks! Hope that doesn't happen anytime soon the way people are conducting themselves recently. Aholes complaining about waiting, even as theyre watching a plane burn. Then attacking the flight attendant with a liquor bottle and try to hop off....
the command captain was listed as a training advisor to the command first officer, who by himself had over 20 thousand hours of experience but just was boarding the 777 and had to learn how it operates in particular. First time the command captain was ever on a training code.
So, a perfect day for flying, a perfectly working 777, known for be extremely reliable .. and 3 pilots that couldn't do a visual landing.. you got to be kidding me.
I think the pilot was under pressure to get his certification and maybe he thought a go-around would affect his pilot rating if he couldn't land the plane on a clear day since he previously received one not so great feedback on another training flight.
Well done, however you didn't mention the 2 Flight Attendant's who were seated in AFT jump seats both ejected from aircraft with tail strike and ended up on the runway! A United 747 pilot noticed their movement and told emergency trucks. And they survived!
It's like the kids that always wanted to sit in the back of the bus so they could get air over the bumps. Except here, in the case of a tail strike you get to leave work a little bit early.
@@_aragornyesyes_7171 That is absolutely not true! That is the lie the city said to get out of paying the lawsuit. Multiple autopsies were done until they found a corrupt official to write that false report. She slid down the slide, walked a ways away from the plane, and laid down. The firefighters knew she was there, but never checked her vitals or put cones around her. They warned one truck to stop before they ran her over, but two others did so, killing her.
I remember this. I was working as a ground crew for two international airlines in SFO on that very day. The gates at Internationational Terminal A had to be shut down to every flight. My shift was supposed to end at 2 pm. I logged out at past 7 pm. One of the flights we were servicing that was supposed to land in SFO at 11 am had to be diverted to nearby OAK airport. They managed to return to SFO, if I remember it correctly, at 4 or 5pm. Some business class passengers threw fits, with one lady apparently not caring a crash had just happened. All she wanted was to get into the lounge which was post-security and was also closed.
The three teenagers who died in the crash of Asiana Airlines Flight 214 sadly hold the title of being the first fatalities in the Boeing B777's operational history. For 18 years, nobody had ever been killed in an accident or incident involving the plane. It should be noted that it was initially rumoured that one of the victims survived the crash, but was killed when her body was run over by an emergency vehicle. However, the coroner's report concluded that she was already dead by the time that the vehicle ran over her body.
All because they didn't want to wear seat belts. Its a dang shame. They valued "being cool" over their safety. It's so harsh that they learned the hard way.
@@kamifade landing is one of the 2 most dangerous phases of a flight, the other phase is during taking off. Being ignorant is one thing, but passengers are *reminded* to have their seatbelts on prior to landing for a reason.
@@Emily-lh6em Partly for the investigation but mostly because it's very hard to pick up and move an airplane by hand. It takes thousands of manhours, specialized equipment and route planning to avoid damaging the roads. The engines alone can be the size of a small house.
@@Matt.m6 It's when they get their puddle jumper pilots to fly the long routes..with an average of 7000 hrs logged in their prop driven planes...but only 7 hrs logged on a 777.🤯🥺🛩
Did you know that Lincoln had a secretary named Kennedy, and Kennedy had a secretary named Lincoln! You look hard enough, and you'll always find something "OMG how is this!!!!" when basic probability says no F deal.
I will never understand why some people refuse to take the very basics of personal safety seriously... by not wearing those seatbelts they majorly contributed to their own misfortune
@@princeofcupspoc9073 The different manufacturers' aircrafts being different shouldn't be an issue. The pilots are "type certified". They typically have license to fly a boeing 777 and only boeing 777 plane. They wont jump into an Airbus the next day at work and then an ATR plane the third day. Heck they wont even be allowed to fly a boeing 747 or 737 when they are only boeing 777 type certified
As sad as this crash was. It's been one that I had been anticipating this for quite some time. Great commentary and breakdown of the sequence of events.
For the reason that only 3 people died, I believe shows that planes are being built a bit safer these days. I mean, all planes will explode in a crash from a high altitude or speed into a mountain. But lower to the ground crashes on approach, building planes from different composite materials etc…I think are better these days than 30-40 years ago IMO.
Don’t know your experience with drawing, but you should consider even crude drawings, eg screen record simple iPad pen strokes or motionvfx animations, overtop of runway configs. I struggle visualizing some of these airports when they seem to be critical and now that I found a layout of the San Fran approach and intersecting runways I can grasp everything here a lot better. N of 1, just a thought! But as always, great story. Lost track of time yet again haha
I’m from Monterey, California but I moved to Sydney in 2010. My mum flew out of SFO to visit me right after this crash, and had to taxi past the burn out wreckage…
@@jetwrench2854 she was covered in foam, hence why they couldn't see her and then ran over her. I think there might be a photo of the dash cam of the truck
Yes it was the City and County of San Francisco is the paymaster for the fire and ground police units at the airport, but they are considered specialist trained airport operators and are a unique crew in their own right.
Amazing video! Judging by what I saw on Patreon I thought it was Pan Am 845 which changed to A shorter runway at San Francisco but the pilots forgot to re-calculate takeoff speed so they hit the runway lights and made a crash landing an hour later at San Francisco
Great new video! Love your vids so much :D Edit: if it’s possible would you mind doing a video on United airlines flight 232? My mom knew 3 people on that flight and they all survived.
My heart goes out to the family and friends of the passengers who lost their lives to the injuries sustained in the disaster. This crash is one that has been bothering me for years.
Yes the two pilots on duty at the time were well below their standards per international expectations, but not so much as it regarded to Asiana's culture and Korean respect to one's leader. (In fact in the DPRK the national government's tv channel only allows entertainment and news that lionizes the superiority of who is now the grandson of a party leader from 1945 and national leader in 1949).
I've watched so many videos on this specific crash and still don't understand how such a catastrophic event could have happened. The saddest is hearing one of the pilots say "go around" just 1.5 seconds before impact, which was just too late. They are so lucky this had a 99% survival rate. Just truly unremarkable.
Very well done... BTW, Boeing aircraft don't refer to flap settings expressed in "degrees" (like McD), but as in "position(s))", ex. flaps position 30, not flaps 30 degrees.
Sad fact: the initial crash killed 1 passenger, the other 2 killed by a fire truck, you shouldn't brush it off. Helmet-recorded images showed that firefighters on the scene saw two of the three victims still alive after being thrown from the plane. The driver of the fire engine ran over them. The firefighter is reported to have said "She got run over... I mean, shit happens, you know?" Afterward the incident was reported by the firefighter to San Francisco Fire Department Chief Joanne M. Hayes-White stating "Chief, there’s a woman there who's been run over by one of our rigs." The chief asked if the victim had been crushed, to which the firefighter replied "like someone dropped a pumpkin."[126] Chief Hayes-White initially made a public statement lauding her firefighters for having "worked as best as it possibly could have". After two days, Hayes-White addressed the incident and said that "public officials most certainly have a duty to tell the truth," and that "it would have been speculative and irresponsible to report something without having confirmation" during the first two days while the San Francisco police and National Transportation Safety Board conducted their investigation. The San Mateo County prosecutors did not file criminal charges against San Francisco firefighters for what they described as a "tragic accident".[126] Hayes-White stated that the department's 2009 ban on video recording devices would be extended to include any devices mounted on helmets that record emergencies citing privacy concerns
thanks for sharing, but lets not shame the creator for not talking about it, hes here to talk about the aviation incident, not every single thing around it.
I also partially blame Boeing for refusing/neglecting to allow the authothrottle to renengage (“wake up”) in case of low speed/ high angle of attack, as all Airbus airliners have had for 25 years prior to this tragic accident with their Alpha Floor function. Other factors are that when the PF called for the flight directors to be turned off, the PM did not turn them both off, thereby leaving the FD in FLCH mode and THR HOLD (as manually positioned by the pilot) also the active autothrottle mode.
Boeing's control philosophy is different to Airbus. There is no "refusal" to do anything. On a Boeing, the pilots have more control and conseqently more responsibilities. These pilots failed in their No.1 task: Fly the plane. (Auto throttles re-engaging didn't save AF447 btw) No blame on Boeing here at all.
@@bmused55 Yeah, there IS blame on Boeing. The auto throttle wake-up doesn’t work in FLCH and it does in other modes. It would have helped in this case, no question when the crew lost situational awareness of speed and decaying total energy. AF447 was at cruise FL where cruise power is already essentially at max power. Airbus’s Alpha Floor doesn’t work there anyway (M number > .5), I think you misunderstand Airbus flight control laws as a “refusal” to do something. Fundamentally the flight control inputs are asking for a different thing in Airbus vs Boeing (though the 777/787 flight controls blur the line). For example, full back stick doesn’t say “max elevator” it says “take me to the limit of: g-load, AOA, pitch attitude. Boeing is not without some of those same protections- they can just be overridden with muscle. But why have to mess around with the edges of stick shaker when you can just hold the stick all the way back and get the guaranteed max performance without screwing around? These are airliners, not your weekend fun plane. That does not excuse and Airbus pilot from being a skilled aviator as in the case of 447,- where the magic turned off and they had to be pilots again: which they failed in when they weren’t able to maintain level flight while hand flying for 40 seconds.
I remember being a kid when this happened. We were visiting family in Cali and were supposed to fly out from SFO to go back home the next day. Our flight was delayed and, being a kid, i really had no clue what happened.
I watch these videos because one of my worse fears is to be in a plane crash. Sometimes they help me, sometimes it makes me more scared of flying. To find out the reasons behind these crashes sometimes helps me sort it all out but I still dont know if I'm doing the right thing to deal with my fears because after seeing what some of these people go through during a crash is very terrifying. I'm sure that none of us who has never experienced it, I'm sure we have no idea what it's like to be in a crash.
It sometimes takes two full years to come up with the final safety investigation of said crashes if so complex, and yes, if it starts a fire, that will be independently investigated as well. And all they do is to inform the public as to what changes should be done to the carrier or industry to make life safer.
You know it's not your day when you're a teenage girl, you fall out of a crashed plane, get sprayed with fire fighting foam then get run over by a firetruck.
The training captain came from an airbus, he did not understand the autopilot on the triple 7 enough and the check captain didnt notice the mistakes. The 3 people that passed away were likely run over by the firetrucks unfortunately.
Excellent video, but the engines are inaccurate. The accident plane had PW 4090 according to the accident report. National Geographic 's Air Crash Investigation also had this inaccuracy. I know you're using the 777-200ER Flight factor. Just wanted to share.
3 pilots in the cockpit and not one of them noticed or responded to their being too low and slow. Not until it was too late. Ridiculous. I've heard many accounts from western pilots working for Asian airlines that they rely too much on automation and have significantly poorer levels of manual flying skills than western pilots with similar flight hours logged. So, when something goes wrong, they take longer to figure it out and take control or, in some cases, do not take control and try to make the automation get them out of it. As for the plane itself.... you got to hand it to Boeing, they built it strong. It smacked into that sea wall at a speed that would kill you in a car, did a ground loop and belly flopped onto the ground. Yet all the electrical systems still worked and even the radios as the pilots called for help. The fuselage also remained intact enough that everyone that wore a seatbelt survived the crash. The deaths were sadly VERY preventable. The girls sat on their seatbelts, refusing to wear them. One of their friends posted on social media that they had said "I'm not wearing a lame belt". Consequently, as the plane made it's violent spin, they were thrown out of the now open end of it and crushed by debris. Wear your seatbelts people.
Another tragic in connection with this accident was the reporting on the news which actually had stated that the pilots names were: - Captain Sum Ting Wong - Wi Tu Lo - Ho Lee Fuk - Bang Ding Ow Yes, the newscaters actually did read those "names" out loud and didn't check anything. It shined a revealing light on the professionalism of the talking heads on TV...
SFO is one of my local airports, and I remember this crash well. Thank you for this very thorough video to explain what happened. One thing I've always wondered, as I also remember that years long construction - did the lack of ILS beacon in any way contribute to this incident? I know pilot/crew error is overwhelming in this case, but just curious if that could have helped save them from crashing.
The plane can use ILS to pick up where and what it needs to do to land. They never would have needed to do all the fiddling to get on the correct glide path. ILS is optimal provided instruments are in working order in air and on ground, but shouldn't have been necessary on a beautiful day like that.
the most tragic and weird accidents is modern civil aviation occur as a result of some form of pilot confusion with a highly automated autopilot system which is supposed to facilitate and aid human pilots.
I believe the third girl who was killed was run over by firetrucks, actually ran over and backed over so run over twice as she was covered by the foam that the firetrucks sprayed, but she had survived the crash. How could you not know this it was common knowledge within a week of the crash if not hours
in FSX... i got this a lot when im new to the game. first it's too short after fixing landing short then i overshot runway instead... ATC mocking me so hard.......
I remember watching the live news coverage of this when it happened. Funny thing is, this is the first time I'm hearing the REAL names of the flight crew.
@@princeofcupspoc9073 chill out, Sandy. He’s referencing a famous reporting eff-up, which gave joke names to the pilots. You will see people talking about it elsewhere in the comment section here.
It’s been confirmed one of the fatalities was due to the first responders running over the head of one of the survivors. Everything about this crash + response screams incompetence. Thoughts and prayers to those who were effected by this crash.
Please read the NTSB report. It goes into a lot of detail about what happened to the three deceased and some other seriously injured. While there was mismanagement during the rescue operation, this did not cause the death of one of the survivors. She was ejected from the aircraft during the crash because she wasn't wearing a seatbelt. She was already dead when she was run over by the two fire trucks (still shouldn't have been run over though). The report concluded that 2 of the 3 victims would likely have survived if they had their seatbelts on.
I remember flying a 737 into SFO the day after the accident and seeing the wreckage of the 777 beside the runway. Both me and my first officer couldn’t believe it happened and didn’t understand how it could happen.
I always thought the casualties from this accident were actually caused by passengers being struck by emergency vehicles responding to the crash during the chaos of the evacuation.
Interesting that you mention this, I had the same impression so I looked it up recently, and this seems to be disputed. Wikipedia mentions the conflicting conclusions: "On July 19, 2013, the San Mateo County Coroner's office determined that Mengyuan was still alive before being run over by a rescue vehicle, and was killed by blunt force trauma. On January 28, 2014, the San Francisco city attorney's office announced its conclusion that the girl was already dead when she was run over." It is not disputed that she _was_ run over, but whether she had already been killed by her ejection from the plane is unclear.
@@desmond-hawkins I'd take the word of the coroner over one of the most corrupt city attorneys offices in America. My take is they didn't want the city getting sued for killing this girl so it's easier to say she died before getting run over. It's likely her family didn't have the resources to dispute this & hire an independent investigator.
@@rick5976 Yes it's clearly unusual for a city attorney's office to even suggest a cause of death, never mind one that contradicts a coroner's opinion. Maybe this particular point _is_ about avoiding a lawsuit, but either way it's certainly possible that there was no way to tell in the first place. When damage is inflicted to the body some time after death you can tell the difference (vs on a living person), but when it's a minute after being thrown out of a crashing airplane there's just no way to know unless she was moving. It's still kind of a surprising accident, I get that there were debris all over the runway but it's still weird that a fire truck or ambulance would not even avoid a human-sized obstacle. And it's not even due to smoke, she was far from the burning wreckage having been flung out after the initial impact but before the plane skidded and tumbled; she was way back closer to the initial impact site.
@@desmond-hawkins If I recall correctly they were using some kind of foam to put the fire out & it bubbled up to where it could easily hide a human that had fallen down. It don't think it was anything reckless by the fire department & it's probably a scenario they never even considered when doing their disaster planning.
Just imagine if it didn't make it past the sea wall and stalled right before it, most of the people would have been killed. So they were extremely lucky.
A visual approach retraining program is definitely needed for these pilots. And how they obtained their pilot licenses in the first place is also baffling.
I see people saying that it was ruled that the teenage girl was already dead upon being ran over by 2 fire trucks. However, as of last year, the coroner’s ruling was still that she was alive prior to being ran over. I have searched for a new report disputing this but cannot find anything from the coroner. Only from the City Attorney, but he isn’t a medical professional. Her parents did file suit against the fire dept and it was settled out of court. In 2019, recordings from the helmet cam of the firefighter that ran her over was released. He is recorded after he ran over her as saying “Oh well. Sh*t happens”. He is also recorded radioing his captain to inform her about the incident. His captain asks him if the girl “exploded” after being ran over. He responded “Like a dropped pumpkin”. If anyone has a link to a new coroner’s report stating that she was dead before impact, please share the link.
I was at SFO trying to get home when this crash occurred. When the announcement came out that all flights were delayed I was so bummed. My flight was to board in 4 minutes!
Teenager Ye Meng Yuan didn’t die when a plane crashed at San Francisco International Airport last July. She actually survived the impact, only to die minutes later after a fire truck ran over her.
I lived in California and traveled in and out of this airport many times. probably my least favorite because of the fog, or "soup" as they called it. I lived in San Diego but learned to travel mid-day for the same reason. same with SeaTac. I was in California at the time and my best friend is Korean. we were shocked when this happened. if my memory serves me, someone was run over by the response vehicles, but I can't remember if it was fatal. anyway, great video as usual. your voice sounded fine.
What do they mean "primary" cause? The cause of the crash was 100% pilot error. There is no wiggle room there. Rule number one in flying a plane is fly the plane. They ignored that completely. "Oh no! The speed warning! Let's pull up and slow down fast!"
To think that all they had to do ( when they could) was to do a go-around. I recall this like it was last night...I saw it a few minutes later at SFO. Such a very sad sight...
I wonder what would have happened if at the last seconds the pilot wouldn't have tried to lift the plane back up which caused the tail to hit the sea wall. Would the plane have made it safely starting at the grass right before the runway?
I would say as a former training and Boeing pilot that the training Captain onboard needed training too, as he should have detected all the errors made with the flight guidance especially as he was seated on the right seat and able to correct same; all lacked situational awareness even the pilot on the jump seat. Very poor cockpit management especially having training crew onboard who are there to avert such things happening. Very poor and sad indeed.
Actually one of the three deaths occured after one of the girls fell out onto the runway and ironically was killed by an emergency fire vehicle on the approach end of 28L. (At leastthat has what I have subsequently learned through the local media).
@@spongebubatz Yeah, coroners office stated COD as blunt force trauma but one of 2 things would cause that, 1) having your skull cracked open when you are ejected from an aircraft at more than 100mph 2) a fire truck Nobody knows/will know
Accidents do happens despite of pilots expertise therefore we passengers must do our self safety first once we’re in the plane. Any plane accident there was lesson to be learned that FAA must take account!
I cant help but think that this was caused because of reliance on autopilot. correct me if im wrong. On a clear day, why not fly it in manual? just my opinion.
Captain 1 was the named pilot in charge of the flight, Captain 2 was a trainee who was in the process to "board" the model type, and Captain 3 was the lead of the relief crew assigned to monitor what should be an uneventful stretch between the departure from the Korean airspace to the arrival near the San Francisco traffic zone.
Think of how many people have died in the history of commercial aviation because the pilot refused to just go around rather than trying to fix an unstable approach. Edit: Maybe not a huge number, but entirely preventable deaths.
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Quick question could you please do a video on the United airlines flight 232 “Sioux City crash “
Another great video for this aviation neophyte! 🖖🐢👣 (You sounded fine but be well soon!)
A good vid man! you deserve more subs!
Thanks for creating all this content, i have one observation for your consideration: you always finish your videos by saying "thank you for making it until the end". Of course you mean the end of the videos, but considering all crashes involving also lot of people dying at the end of the story, the word "end" has kind of a weird double meaning. Maybe it's just me...
The frightening thing about this crash is that it had nothing to do with a defect in the plane or one of the chains of misunderstandings between crew and ATC that so often are the cause of crashes. This was 100% the result of a stunning amount of incompetence by what should have been an experienced and highly qualified flight crew.
Yep, it's as if they had just suddenly found themselves in the cockpit of a 777 as it came in to land. Bizarre. How could they not have realised the need to go around?
Captain Sum Ting Wong
Wi Tu Lo
Ho Li Fuk
And Bang Ding Ow
Flying a perfectly good air plane, on a perfectly good day, landing on a perfectly good runway and still managing to screw it up; that's pretty bad.
And it's reported that they are STILL flying for Asiana, which, I'm ok with. Mistakes happen.
But God forbid a cop has to shoot a (black) person attacking them, that cop is fired and criminally charged... for doing the job they were tasked with, and saving their own lives at the time (at least in the USA).
@@stargazer2504 That almost never happens. (That is, the cop being criminally charged.) Cops are always given the benefit of the doubt by the District Attorney's office, with whom they work side by side on a daily basis. Even when the cop commits egregious misconduct, they usually just get a slap on the wrist.
When Columbia County (Florida) Sheriff's sergeant Randy Harrison and deputy Jayme Gohde falsely arrested a blind man "without probable cause" (according to Sheriff Mark Hunter’s own statement), Sgt. Harrison was suspended for a mere seven days, and Gohde for only two.
Worse, when off-duty King's County (Washington) Sheriff's detective Richard Rowe pulled his gun on a motorcyclist without good cause (which is a felony) he was not charged with a crime. Instead, despite a lawsuit resulting in a $65,000 payout to the victim, the only punishment that Defective Rowe got was a 5-day suspension.
How does the crash of an Airliner have any relation to an Officer involved Shooting???
@@FlyTaylorIt doesn't. They're just programmed to constantly bring up that bs on anything and everything
@@stargazer2504
How is that last part relevant to anything????
Plus there are far more corrupt and lawbreaking cops and police e departments than there are airline companies, in the US and worldwide.
Nothing like one of these videos before a flight. Much love
stay safe!
Oof good luck
That's one reason I don't fly on Saturdays.
I'd be heading for the door and reschedule or find a different form of travel! 😆
@@bumnuggetz6894 well how did it go? I find these videos reassure me and help me understand what all the normal noises are the plane is making lol.
I was in a Delta airlines flight taxing to the runway when this happened
It was terrifying seeing all this
Wow
What do they do with that, takeoff or back to gates and disembark?
@@mtmadigan82
We ended up sitting on near the runway for at least 4 hours before we ended up taxing to a further runway & taking off.
@@Blackwolffe097 thanks! Hope that doesn't happen anytime soon the way people are conducting themselves recently. Aholes complaining about waiting, even as theyre watching a plane burn. Then attacking the flight attendant with a liquor bottle and try to hop off....
@@mtmadigan82
Oh trust me
We had one dude on the plane bitching about how he was gonna miss his important business meeting. Like wtf
It's amazing how 2 pilots and a instructor pilot can let things go so badly wrong.
the command captain was listed as a training advisor to the command first officer, who by himself had over 20 thousand hours of experience but just was boarding the 777 and had to learn how it operates in particular. First time the command captain was ever on a training code.
So, a perfect day for flying, a perfectly working 777, known for be extremely reliable .. and 3 pilots that couldn't do a visual landing.. you got to be kidding me.
They simply refused to acknowledge the obvious need for a go-around. Unbelievable.
Complacency is a hell of a drug, especially with a history of poor safety
I think the pilot was under pressure to get his certification and maybe he thought a go-around would affect his pilot rating if he couldn't land the plane on a clear day since he previously received one not so great feedback on another training flight.
Well done, however you didn't mention the 2 Flight Attendant's who were seated in AFT jump seats both ejected from aircraft with tail strike and ended up on the runway! A United 747 pilot noticed their movement and told emergency trucks. And they survived!
It's like the kids that always wanted to sit in the back of the bus so they could get air over the bumps.
Except here, in the case of a tail strike you get to leave work a little bit early.
A survivor was also run over by a fire truck rushing to the scene!
@@AaronHarberg well she was run over but she died before she got hit
@@_aragornyesyes_7171 Should never have been run over. Firefighters saw her and the driver of the rig was warned as well.
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That is absolutely not true! That is the lie the city said to get out of paying the lawsuit. Multiple autopsies were done until they found a corrupt official to write that false report.
She slid down the slide, walked a ways away from the plane, and laid down. The firefighters knew she was there, but never checked her vitals or put cones around her. They warned one truck to stop before they ran her over, but two others did so, killing her.
I remember this. I was working as a ground crew for two international airlines in SFO on that very day. The gates at Internationational Terminal A had to be shut down to every flight. My shift was supposed to end at 2 pm. I logged out at past 7 pm. One of the flights we were servicing that was supposed to land in SFO at 11 am had to be diverted to nearby OAK airport. They managed to return to SFO, if I remember it correctly, at 4 or 5pm. Some business class passengers threw fits, with one lady apparently not caring a crash had just happened. All she wanted was to get into the lounge which was post-security and was also closed.
The three teenagers who died in the crash of Asiana Airlines Flight 214 sadly hold the title of being the first fatalities in the Boeing B777's operational history. For 18 years, nobody had ever been killed in an accident or incident involving the plane. It should be noted that it was initially rumoured that one of the victims survived the crash, but was killed when her body was run over by an emergency vehicle. However, the coroner's report concluded that she was already dead by the time that the vehicle ran over her body.
All because they didn't want to wear seat belts. Its a dang shame. They valued "being cool" over their safety. It's so harsh that they learned the hard way.
@@bmused55 I mean they probably had it off because they were landing and they thought it was fine
Nah, I wouldn't put this in the plane itself, but the Pilots. She didn't die because the plane crashed, she died because the Pilots were stupid.
@@kamifade landing is one of the 2 most dangerous phases of a flight, the other phase is during taking off. Being ignorant is one thing, but passengers are *reminded* to have their seatbelts on prior to landing for a reason.
@@bmused55 What the fuck? Jesus christ, dude 😂
I remember flying into SFO with the plane’s burnt out structure still on the side of the runway
Stop lying, no you didn’t.
@@mikhailtkachuk1754 it was sitting there for over a month. You can look it up.
@@mikhailtkachuk1754 A little over 4 million people flew through SFO while it was still on the runway. I'm confident people remember this.
@@abebuckingham8198 what was the reason they didn't remove it promptly? Was it because they were investigating?
@@Emily-lh6em Partly for the investigation but mostly because it's very hard to pick up and move an airplane by hand. It takes thousands of manhours, specialized equipment and route planning to avoid damaging the roads. The engines alone can be the size of a small house.
Ironically, all fatal Asiana airlines crashes occurred in July, so the number 7 is said to be cursed at asiana
Probably when all the good pilots take their holidays heh
@@Matt.m6
It's when they get their puddle jumper pilots to fly the long routes..with an average of 7000 hrs logged in their prop driven planes...but only 7 hrs logged on a 777.🤯🥺🛩
Oh yes of course the Asiana 747 fire we have just had the 10th anniversary for. Are there any others?
@@liamb8644 flight 733 or 773 idk in 1999 I think
Did you know that Lincoln had a secretary named Kennedy, and Kennedy had a secretary named Lincoln! You look hard enough, and you'll always find something "OMG how is this!!!!" when basic probability says no F deal.
This disaster perfectly shows why you are supposed to wear seatbelts during takeoff and landing.
I will never understand why some people refuse to take the very basics of personal safety seriously... by not wearing those seatbelts they majorly contributed to their own misfortune
does anyone remember the KTVU naming mistakes of Asiana 214 pliots
Yes.
how could anyone forget it... a legendary moment in television history
@@rockifythis I wish that could be the video it be funny tho
Captain Sum Ting Wong
Wi Tu Lo
Ho Lee Fuk
and Bang Ding Ow
😂😂😂😂
I just couldn't imagine how this could happen to a plane with three captains in the flight deck.
Familiarity with the particular aircraft is 90% of a pilot's training. They can be radically different between manufacturers.
Too many cooks spoil the broth
@@margiewinslow872 Incompetent cooks spoiled the landing.
@@princeofcupspoc9073 The different manufacturers' aircrafts being different shouldn't be an issue. The pilots are "type certified". They typically have license to fly a boeing 777 and only boeing 777 plane. They wont jump into an Airbus the next day at work and then an ATR plane the third day. Heck they wont even be allowed to fly a boeing 747 or 737 when they are only boeing 777 type certified
Sum Ting Wong
Wi Tu Lo
Ho Lee Fuk
Bang Ding Ow
I binged watched every single one of your videos in two days😅. the attention to details and effort put into each video is incredible👍🏾
As sad as this crash was. It's been one that I had been anticipating this for quite some time. Great commentary and breakdown of the sequence of events.
I binged all of these videos when I found the channel and now I'm always eagerly awaiting the new vids! 👌🏽
Same
Same here, I think I've re-watched most of them 2 or more times.
me too but I haven’t watched all yet
For the reason that only 3 people died, I believe shows that planes are being built a bit safer these days. I mean, all planes will explode in a crash from a high altitude or speed into a mountain. But lower to the ground crashes on approach, building planes from different composite materials etc…I think are better these days than 30-40 years ago IMO.
As someone said in a comment section
"Higher experience means its easy to do it right, but it doesnt get harder to screw it up"
Don’t know your experience with drawing, but you should consider even crude drawings, eg screen record simple iPad pen strokes or motionvfx animations, overtop of runway configs. I struggle visualizing some of these airports when they seem to be critical and now that I found a layout of the San Fran approach and intersecting runways I can grasp everything here a lot better. N of 1, just a thought! But as always, great story. Lost track of time yet again haha
Hey it’s you again lol, this is the weirdest crossover I’ve seen in a while
Laura air 004 crossover when?
Didn’t expect to see you here
I’m from Monterey, California but I moved to Sydney in 2010. My mum flew out of SFO to visit me right after this crash, and had to taxi past the burn out wreckage…
Hoping you feel better. Great content, though.
I'm getting there, thanks!
i would love to see a video on TWA Flight 800
Same
It will be done. I am waiting for some new flight simulator software to make it though.
@@DisasterBreakdown ok thankyou brilliant
Yay
Ah yes, the flight which inspired Final Destination 1.
I remember when this happened, on the news it was reported that one of the girls was hit by a rescue vehicle, a Fire truck i believe.
@@jetwrench2854 she was covered in foam, hence why they couldn't see her and then ran over her. I think there might be a photo of the dash cam of the truck
Yes it was the City and County of San Francisco is the paymaster for the fire and ground police units at the airport, but they are considered specialist trained airport operators and are a unique crew in their own right.
I love these vids, especially with the voiceover
Amazing video! Judging by what I saw on Patreon I thought it was Pan Am 845 which changed to A shorter runway at San Francisco but the pilots forgot to re-calculate takeoff speed so they hit the runway lights and made a crash landing an hour later at San Francisco
there was much more to it than forgetting the recalculation
Great new video! Love your vids so much :D
Edit: if it’s possible would you mind doing a video on United airlines flight 232? My mom knew 3 people on that flight and they all survived.
Great video as always! Keep up the AMAZING work you do! You have a lifelong fan here from Sweden (living in Norway) :)
what are the odds that you'd have 3 captains, all on one plane and all named Lee?
In Korea like 10% of all men are named Lee. No kidding.
Considering its Korea..I'd say the odds are better than average.
And all not noticing thrust levers position!
Lee is the second most common surname in South Korea, so pretty likely actually.
I'm pretty sure the pilots were actually named "sum ting wong" "we tu lo" "ho lee fuk" and "bang ding ow"
My heart goes out to the family and friends of the passengers who lost their lives to the injuries sustained in the disaster. This crash is one that has been bothering me for years.
Yes the two pilots on duty at the time were well below their standards per international expectations, but not so much as it regarded to Asiana's culture and Korean respect to one's leader. (In fact in the DPRK the national government's tv channel only allows entertainment and news that lionizes the superiority of who is now the grandson of a party leader from 1945 and national leader in 1949).
10 years today. RIP to those who lost their lives
I've watched so many videos on this specific crash and still don't understand how such a catastrophic event could have happened. The saddest is hearing one of the pilots say "go around" just 1.5 seconds before impact, which was just too late. They are so lucky this had a 99% survival rate. Just truly unremarkable.
Very well done... BTW, Boeing aircraft don't refer to flap settings expressed in "degrees" (like McD), but as in "position(s))", ex. flaps position 30, not flaps 30 degrees.
Your storytelling is amazing! Keep up the good work!
A good vid man! you deserve more subs!
Sad fact: the initial crash killed 1 passenger, the other 2 killed by a fire truck, you shouldn't brush it off.
Helmet-recorded images showed that firefighters on the scene saw two of the three victims still alive after being thrown from the plane. The driver of the fire engine ran over them. The firefighter is reported to have said "She got run over... I mean, shit happens, you know?" Afterward the incident was reported by the firefighter to San Francisco Fire Department Chief Joanne M. Hayes-White stating "Chief, there’s a woman there who's been run over by one of our rigs." The chief asked if the victim had been crushed, to which the firefighter replied "like someone dropped a pumpkin."[126]
Chief Hayes-White initially made a public statement lauding her firefighters for having "worked as best as it possibly could have". After two days, Hayes-White addressed the incident and said that "public officials most certainly have a duty to tell the truth," and that "it would have been speculative and irresponsible to report something without having confirmation" during the first two days while the San Francisco police and National Transportation Safety Board conducted their investigation. The San Mateo County prosecutors did not file criminal charges against San Francisco firefighters for what they described as a "tragic accident".[126]
Hayes-White stated that the department's 2009 ban on video recording devices would be extended to include any devices mounted on helmets that record emergencies citing privacy concerns
thanks for sharing, but lets not shame the creator for not talking about it, hes here to talk about the aviation incident, not every single thing around it.
I also partially blame Boeing for refusing/neglecting to allow the authothrottle to renengage (“wake up”) in case of low speed/ high angle of attack, as all Airbus airliners have had for 25 years prior to this tragic accident with their Alpha Floor function.
Other factors are that when the PF called for the flight directors to be turned off, the PM did not turn them both off, thereby leaving the FD in FLCH mode and THR HOLD (as manually positioned by the pilot) also the active autothrottle mode.
Boeing's control philosophy is different to Airbus. There is no "refusal" to do anything. On a Boeing, the pilots have more control and conseqently more responsibilities. These pilots failed in their No.1 task: Fly the plane. (Auto throttles re-engaging didn't save AF447 btw)
No blame on Boeing here at all.
@@bmused55 Yeah, there IS blame on Boeing. The auto throttle wake-up doesn’t work in FLCH and it does in other modes. It would have helped in this case, no question when the crew lost situational awareness of speed and decaying total energy. AF447 was at cruise FL where cruise power is already essentially at max power. Airbus’s Alpha Floor doesn’t work there anyway (M number > .5),
I think you misunderstand Airbus flight control laws as a “refusal” to do something. Fundamentally the flight control inputs are asking for a different thing in Airbus vs Boeing (though the 777/787 flight controls blur the line). For example, full back stick doesn’t say “max elevator” it says “take me to the limit of: g-load, AOA, pitch attitude. Boeing is not without some of those same protections- they can just be overridden with muscle. But why have to mess around with the edges of stick shaker when you can just hold the stick all the way back and get the guaranteed max performance without screwing around? These are airliners, not your weekend fun plane. That does not excuse and Airbus pilot from being a skilled aviator as in the case of 447,- where the magic turned off and they had to be pilots again: which they failed in when they weren’t able to maintain level flight while hand flying for 40 seconds.
Still don't understand why am I watching this a day before my flight 😅 but it's a great video as usual 💙
Don't worry about it, most carriers have serious penalties for far less of a mistake.
Thank you, I was waiting for this one
Yay! Another Saturday treat!
great reminder to wear your seatbelt!
I remember being a kid when this happened. We were visiting family in Cali and were supposed to fly out from SFO to go back home the next day. Our flight was delayed and, being a kid, i really had no clue what happened.
Too many cooks spoil the broth as the saying goes.
I watch these videos because one of my worse fears is to be in a plane crash. Sometimes they help me, sometimes it makes me more scared of flying. To find out the reasons behind these crashes sometimes helps me sort it all out but I still dont know if I'm doing the right thing to deal with my fears because after seeing what some of these people go through during a crash is very terrifying. I'm sure that none of us who has never experienced it, I'm sure we have no idea what it's like to be in a crash.
I relate to this so much! I am also terrified of plane crashes. Planes in general, actually.
It sometimes takes two full years to come up with the final safety investigation of said crashes if so complex, and yes, if it starts a fire, that will be independently investigated as well. And all they do is to inform the public as to what changes should be done to the carrier or industry to make life safer.
Yesterday was 10th anniversary of Asiana flight 214.
Great! Watched the whole video without skipping!
You know it's not your day when you're a teenage girl, you fall out of a crashed plane, get sprayed with fire fighting foam then get run over by a firetruck.
It was later concluded that she was already dead when she was hit
@@spongebubatz I believe she was the only fatality
@@adotintheshark4848 unfortunately not, there were two other girls which also died :(
Hello! Could you please make a video about transbrasil airlines flight 801 or tam airlines flight 402? I would love seeing it!
I'll look into them, thanks
@@DisasterBreakdown Thanks!
The training captain came from an airbus, he did not understand the autopilot on the triple 7 enough and the check captain didnt notice the mistakes. The 3 people that passed away were likely run over by the firetrucks unfortunately.
It was later concluded that all three were dead immediately :(
Excellent video, but the engines are inaccurate. The accident plane had PW 4090 according to the accident report. National Geographic 's Air Crash Investigation also had this inaccuracy. I know you're using the 777-200ER Flight factor. Just wanted to share.
Great video as always 😍
this channel has great commenters, always interesting details!
3 pilots in the cockpit and not one of them noticed or responded to their being too low and slow. Not until it was too late. Ridiculous.
I've heard many accounts from western pilots working for Asian airlines that they rely too much on automation and have significantly poorer levels of manual flying skills than western pilots with similar flight hours logged. So, when something goes wrong, they take longer to figure it out and take control or, in some cases, do not take control and try to make the automation get them out of it.
As for the plane itself.... you got to hand it to Boeing, they built it strong. It smacked into that sea wall at a speed that would kill you in a car, did a ground loop and belly flopped onto the ground. Yet all the electrical systems still worked and even the radios as the pilots called for help. The fuselage also remained intact enough that everyone that wore a seatbelt survived the crash.
The deaths were sadly VERY preventable. The girls sat on their seatbelts, refusing to wear them. One of their friends posted on social media that they had said "I'm not wearing a lame belt". Consequently, as the plane made it's violent spin, they were thrown out of the now open end of it and crushed by debris.
Wear your seatbelts people.
Love this channel
Another tragic in connection with this accident was the reporting on the news which actually had stated that the pilots names were:
- Captain Sum Ting Wong
- Wi Tu Lo
- Ho Lee Fuk
- Bang Ding Ow
Yes, the newscaters actually did read those "names" out loud and didn't check anything.
It shined a revealing light on the professionalism of the talking heads on TV...
I've noticed that a lot of these accidents seem to occur during training flights or when there is an observer on the flight deck.
Apparently the two 16 year old girls who died weren’t killed during the crash but rather were run over by fire trucks en route to the crash site.
I was just thinking what a nice voice you had! I live 50 miles from SFO and I hadn’t heard of this accident!
No person in the cockpit noted that the throttles were in idle.. That is not very good..
I'm here on the 10th anniversary I remember seeing this crash on the news.
SFO is one of my local airports, and I remember this crash well. Thank you for this very thorough video to explain what happened. One thing I've always wondered, as I also remember that years long construction - did the lack of ILS beacon in any way contribute to this incident? I know pilot/crew error is overwhelming in this case, but just curious if that could have helped save them from crashing.
The plane can use ILS to pick up where and what it needs to do to land. They never would have needed to do all the fiddling to get on the correct glide path. ILS is optimal provided instruments are in working order in air and on ground, but shouldn't have been necessary on a beautiful day like that.
@@izzi8459 They were doing visuals that morning.
I remember this as the one where they reported the pilot's name as Sum Ting Wong
the most tragic and weird accidents is modern civil aviation occur as a result of some form of pilot confusion with a highly automated autopilot system which is supposed to facilitate and aid human pilots.
Glad that most passengers made it
I believe the third girl who was killed was run over by firetrucks, actually ran over and backed over so run over twice as she was covered by the foam that the firetrucks sprayed, but she had survived the crash. How could you not know this it was common knowledge within a week of the crash if not hours
What I read was that the coroner eventually determined she was already deceased before she got ran over.
in FSX... i got this a lot when im new to the game.
first it's too short after fixing landing short then i overshot runway instead...
ATC mocking me so hard.......
They wanted to use the autopilot so bad and yet failed to use the one single autopilot command that would have saved them.. approach mode.
Flying one the most advanced if not the most advanced plane on a great day and you still mess up
I remember watching the live news coverage of this when it happened. Funny thing is, this is the first time I'm hearing the REAL names of the flight crew.
Anything else about you to share? That's why were are here, not to comment on video. WE are more important.
@@princeofcupspoc9073 chill out, Sandy. He’s referencing a famous reporting eff-up, which gave joke names to the pilots. You will see people talking about it elsewhere in the comment section here.
@@princeofcupspoc9073 I second what creatrix said.
Sum ting wong
@@princeofcupspoc9073 Who shat on your cereal?
It’s been confirmed one of the fatalities was due to the first responders running over the head of one of the survivors. Everything about this crash + response screams incompetence.
Thoughts and prayers to those who were effected by this crash.
Please read the NTSB report. It goes into a lot of detail about what happened to the three deceased and some other seriously injured.
While there was mismanagement during the rescue operation, this did not cause the death of one of the survivors.
She was ejected from the aircraft during the crash because she wasn't wearing a seatbelt. She was already dead when she was run over by the two fire trucks (still shouldn't have been run over though). The report concluded that 2 of the 3 victims would likely have survived if they had their seatbelts on.
Korean pilots; continuing their long history of crashing perfectly working airplanes
Have you made a video about the explosion of a Pan Am plane over Lockerbie in 1988?
Yes he has! Check his posting history, it’s about 2 years old.
I remember flying a 737 into SFO the day after the accident and seeing the wreckage of the 777 beside the runway. Both me and my first officer couldn’t believe it happened and didn’t understand how it could happen.
I always thought the casualties from this accident were actually caused by passengers being struck by emergency vehicles responding to the crash during the chaos of the evacuation.
Interesting that you mention this, I had the same impression so I looked it up recently, and this seems to be disputed. Wikipedia mentions the conflicting conclusions: "On July 19, 2013, the San Mateo County Coroner's office determined that Mengyuan was still alive before being run over by a rescue vehicle, and was killed by blunt force trauma. On January 28, 2014, the San Francisco city attorney's office announced its conclusion that the girl was already dead when she was run over." It is not disputed that she _was_ run over, but whether she had already been killed by her ejection from the plane is unclear.
@@desmond-hawkins I'd take the word of the coroner over one of the most corrupt city attorneys offices in America. My take is they didn't want the city getting sued for killing this girl so it's easier to say she died before getting run over. It's likely her family didn't have the resources to dispute this & hire an independent investigator.
@@rick5976 Yes it's clearly unusual for a city attorney's office to even suggest a cause of death, never mind one that contradicts a coroner's opinion. Maybe this particular point _is_ about avoiding a lawsuit, but either way it's certainly possible that there was no way to tell in the first place. When damage is inflicted to the body some time after death you can tell the difference (vs on a living person), but when it's a minute after being thrown out of a crashing airplane there's just no way to know unless she was moving. It's still kind of a surprising accident, I get that there were debris all over the runway but it's still weird that a fire truck or ambulance would not even avoid a human-sized obstacle. And it's not even due to smoke, she was far from the burning wreckage having been flung out after the initial impact but before the plane skidded and tumbled; she was way back closer to the initial impact site.
@@desmond-hawkins If I recall correctly they were using some kind of foam to put the fire out & it bubbled up to where it could easily hide a human that had fallen down. It don't think it was anything reckless by the fire department & it's probably a scenario they never even considered when doing their disaster planning.
@@rick5976 I see, thanks for the details! I had never heard this part before.
Just imagine if it didn't make it past the sea wall and stalled right before it, most of the people would have been killed. So they were extremely lucky.
A visual approach retraining program is definitely needed for these pilots. And how they obtained their pilot licenses in the first place is also baffling.
I see people saying that it was ruled that the teenage girl was already dead upon being ran over by 2 fire trucks. However, as of last year, the coroner’s ruling was still that she was alive prior to being ran over. I have searched for a new report disputing this but cannot find anything from the coroner. Only from the City Attorney, but he isn’t a medical professional. Her parents did file suit against the fire dept and it was settled out of court. In 2019, recordings from the helmet cam of the firefighter that ran her over was released. He is recorded after he ran over her as saying “Oh well. Sh*t happens”. He is also recorded radioing his captain to inform her about the incident. His captain asks him if the girl “exploded” after being ran over. He responded “Like a dropped pumpkin”. If anyone has a link to a new coroner’s report stating that she was dead before impact, please share the link.
Good videos. 👍
Love it, my only criticism is stop giving away the entire gist of the story before going further
I was at SFO trying to get home when this crash occurred. When the announcement came out that all flights were delayed I was so bummed. My flight was to board in 4 minutes!
Teenager Ye Meng Yuan didn’t die when a plane crashed at San Francisco International Airport last July. She actually survived the impact, only to die minutes later after a fire truck ran over her.
can you please do a video on Lion Air Flight 610 and Ethiopian Airlines Flight 302?
I lived in California and traveled in and out of this airport many times. probably my least favorite because of the fog, or "soup" as they called it. I lived in San Diego but learned to travel mid-day for the same reason. same with SeaTac. I was in California at the time and my best friend is Korean. we were shocked when this happened. if my memory serves me, someone was run over by the response vehicles, but I can't remember if it was fatal. anyway, great video as usual. your voice sounded fine.
good video
how was this posted 2 days ago when the vid released less than 20 mins ago?
@@mysterycrumble they’re a patreon member
@@arandomthing2489 ahhh. makes sense! thank you!
@@mysterycrumble lol no problem
@@mysterycrumble patreon my friend
What do they mean "primary" cause? The cause of the crash was 100% pilot error. There is no wiggle room there. Rule number one in flying a plane is fly the plane. They ignored that completely. "Oh no! The speed warning! Let's pull up and slow down fast!"
great video as always! i flew into this airport a few days after this accident happened. crazy to think it could’ve been me!
Yeah that's how it works, on the day you land...
Remember *THAT* news broadcast of this crash 😬
Are you using ff777 dude and video good
Thanks and yes.
Pretty sure you got the capt.s name wrong. His name was Sum Ting Wong.
To think that all they had to do ( when they could) was to do a go-around. I recall this like it was last night...I saw it a few minutes later at SFO. Such a very sad sight...
I wonder what would have happened if at the last seconds the pilot wouldn't have tried to lift the plane back up which caused the tail to hit the sea wall. Would the plane have made it safely starting at the grass right before the runway?
I would say as a former training and Boeing pilot that the training Captain onboard needed training too, as he should have detected all the errors made with the flight guidance especially as he was seated on the right seat and able to correct same; all lacked situational awareness even the pilot on the jump seat. Very poor cockpit management especially having training crew onboard who are there to avert such things happening. Very poor and sad indeed.
Are u using the ff777
For this video, yes.
Actually one of the three deaths occured after one of the girls fell out onto the runway and ironically was killed by an emergency fire vehicle on the approach end of 28L. (At leastthat has what I have subsequently learned through the local media).
This was later corrected. She most likely was already dead when she was hit by the fire engine
@@spongebubatz Yeah, coroners office stated COD as blunt force trauma but one of 2 things would cause that,
1) having your skull cracked open when you are ejected from an aircraft at more than 100mph
2) a fire truck
Nobody knows/will know
Accidents do happens despite of pilots expertise therefore we passengers must do our self safety first once we’re in the plane. Any plane accident there was lesson to be learned that FAA must take account!
I cant help but think that this was caused because of reliance on autopilot. correct me if im wrong. On a clear day, why not fly it in manual? just my opinion.
I can tell a lot of people have seen the wreckage of this plane in person
3 captains on board still crashes the plane, amazing!
Captain 1 was the named pilot in charge of the flight, Captain 2 was a trainee who was in the process to "board" the model type, and Captain 3 was the lead of the relief crew assigned to monitor what should be an uneventful stretch between the departure from the Korean airspace to the arrival near the San Francisco traffic zone.
Think of how many people have died in the history of commercial aviation because the pilot refused to just go around rather than trying to fix an unstable approach.
Edit: Maybe not a huge number, but entirely preventable deaths.