This is some Hi Grade gold ore that I crushed to get the gold out and make a bar. I kept some of the gold in its natural state to sell as a gold specimen
I am a goldsmith and familiar with how gold reacts. I was going to suggest that if you heated those rocks up with obvious large amounts of gold in them (cost effective) and then quench them in cold water (thermal reaction) , they should separate.
Hi Dave, I know some of the clowns want to make fun of being sloppy and this and that, but I appreciate you just showing your gut feeling and giving us an example of how to do it without having millions of dollars with a fancy home, etc. What I really appreciate is how you showed gold in Quartz. It gave me a good understanding of some cave videos I watched today where they went in and extracted the whole Quartz vein.
Thanks Dave. That was the very first time I have seen gold in rock being crushed, panned and finally a gold bar. I thoroughly enjoyed your video. Sacrilege? No, not at all! You're in the business of making gold into cash, making a living from it. If the market don't want quartz, sell them gold. Well done Mate. And thanks once more.
Some acid and time would have yielded specimens worth more. After watching this I think that panning the dirt under your equipment would be well worth it.
Some suggestions... There is melting and there is smelting, melting is open air lid off, and smelting is a chemical process that needs to take place in a low or no oxygen environment, so would have the lid closed or nearly closed depending on the type of kiln. Your first attempt was melting, but it was helpful as a first step, but only up to 900 degrees. This would be considered roasting, and it is to remove extra Sulphur as well as to release chemically trapped gold or gold-sulphide. If one is simply melting gold jeweler than they could get away with just a one-step melting and adding just borax, then your gold would be shinier and a bit purer. It is suggested that you line the crucible with the borax and add some more to what you are melting; it is melting so you would not cover it. If one had black sands concentrates which will have a lot of heavy metals such as lead and possible metals ending in -ium, and of course iron and magnetite, and possibly lighter metals like copper and silver. You do not want to just melt black sands concentrates-(BSC), although crushed rock ore with mostly just rock and gold, even if it also has iron, then one might be able to get away with melting and just using borax, but with BSC one wouldn't want to simply melt it because then all the melted metals could mix together and make some impossible amalgam. One doesn't have to worry about a gold/iron amalgam though because gold melts at just under 2000-degree Fahrenheit although you want to heat it to 2100. While the iron has a melting point like around 3600 or 3800. So, the iron doesn't melt and therefore couldn't form a gold amalgam. That is the exact purpose of the black sands flux, it prevents the non-gold melted metal particles from sticking to other metals either of the same type or different. Gold and the other noble metals like the silver and copper are unaffected and those melted particles with start to glob together; it all needs to be done in an oxygen-less environment. Backing up, I start by roasting my concentrates at 900 degrees F for 45 minutes to roast off Sulphur, lead melts at 900 and some of it may vaporize off, as well as any possible mercury. I do that in a crucible with the lid open. I may roast the material with just some borax, or I may prep it fully for smelting so that after 45 minutes at 900, I can just turn it right up to 2100. The way to prep for smelting is to coat the crucible with borax thickly. The mix the concentrates with the flux so that no amalgams start to form before you add it. Thinner also must be added. Thinner makes the molten metal pour like water which is essential for the gold to "fall out" or drop to the bottom of the mold when poured from the crucible. If a flat mold then a bar will form, in a round bottomed mold then a bead will form. Flat mold for gold rich concentrates and bead for small concentrates or low gold content concentrates. Mix them all together in the crucible and put a lid on it. If it is a flame-based kiln, then leave the lib open a crack, the flames will burn up any oxygen, and if it is electric then close the lid completely.
Great job! Thanks for speeding up the video where needed, I hate when people show 10 minutes of dumping dirt in their sluice. Most of the negative comments are from people who have never held a piece of gold like that one. I get the same remarks from people who want me to miss $100 and hour work to mess with scrap metal I give away instead of processing.
There's more to life then money and gold. I think it's great that you shared this vid. The wilderness, fresh air and a visit from the neighbors cat while doing your own thing is perfect. Thanks for sharing!
There is a lot of negative comments for no reason! This man is very ingenuitive and resourceful ! A true gold refining bootlegger that gets better results than most of y'all.
I am a goldsmith and familiar with how gold reacts. I was going to suggest that if you heated those rocks up with obvious large amounts of gold in them (cost effective) and then quench them in cold water (thermal reaction) , they should separate.
Hi Dave, I know some of the clowns want to make fun of being sloppy and this and that, but I appreciate you just showing your gut feeling and giving us an example of how to do it without having millions of dollars with a fancy home, etc. What I really appreciate is how you showed gold in Quartz. It gave me a good understanding of some cave videos I watched today where they went in and extracted the whole Quartz vein.
With all that gold flying around...... I calculate the neighbor's cat to be worth around $2,000. Thanks for sharing.
Thanks Dave. That was the very first time I have seen gold in rock being crushed, panned and finally a gold bar. I thoroughly enjoyed your video. Sacrilege? No, not at all! You're in the business of making gold into cash, making a living from it. If the market don't want quartz, sell them gold. Well done Mate. And thanks once more.
Some acid and time would have yielded specimens worth more. After watching this I think that panning the dirt under your equipment would be well worth it.
If you ever do that again I'll come over and sweep your floor for free.
Some suggestions... There is melting and there is smelting, melting is open air lid off, and smelting is a chemical process that needs to take place in a low or no oxygen environment, so would have the lid closed or nearly closed depending on the type of kiln. Your first attempt was melting, but it was helpful as a first step, but only up to 900 degrees. This would be considered roasting, and it is to remove extra Sulphur as well as to release chemically trapped gold or gold-sulphide. If one is simply melting gold jeweler than they could get away with just a one-step melting and adding just borax, then your gold would be shinier and a bit purer. It is suggested that you line the crucible with the borax and add some more to what you are melting; it is melting so you would not cover it. If one had black sands concentrates which will have a lot of heavy metals such as lead and possible metals ending in -ium, and of course iron and magnetite, and possibly lighter metals like copper and silver. You do not want to just melt black sands concentrates-(BSC), although crushed rock ore with mostly just rock and gold, even if it also has iron, then one might be able to get away with melting and just using borax, but with BSC one wouldn't want to simply melt it because then all the melted metals could mix together and make some impossible amalgam. One doesn't have to worry about a gold/iron amalgam though because gold melts at just under 2000-degree Fahrenheit although you want to heat it to 2100. While the iron has a melting point like around 3600 or 3800. So, the iron doesn't melt and therefore couldn't form a gold amalgam. That is the exact purpose of the black sands flux, it prevents the non-gold melted metal particles from sticking to other metals either of the same type or different. Gold and the other noble metals like the silver and copper are unaffected and those melted particles with start to glob together; it all needs to be done in an oxygen-less environment. Backing up, I start by roasting my concentrates at 900 degrees F for 45 minutes to roast off Sulphur, lead melts at 900 and some of it may vaporize off, as well as any possible mercury. I do that in a crucible with the lid open. I may roast the material with just some borax, or I may prep it fully for smelting so that after 45 minutes at 900, I can just turn it right up to 2100. The way to prep for smelting is to coat the crucible with borax thickly. The mix the concentrates with the flux so that no amalgams start to form before you add it. Thinner also must be added. Thinner makes the molten metal pour like water which is essential for the gold to "fall out" or drop to the bottom of the mold when poured from the crucible. If a flat mold then a bar will form, in a round bottomed mold then a bead will form. Flat mold for gold rich concentrates and bead for small concentrates or low gold content concentrates. Mix them all together in the crucible and put a lid on it. If it is a flame-based kiln, then leave the lib open a crack, the flames will burn up any oxygen, and if it is electric then close the lid completely.
I enjoyed this video. Thanks you for producing it and fast forwarding through the long parts. Cheers!
There are more heavy metals in that bar than just gold. Probably significant amounts of silver and lead both.
i feel like you're loosing alot the way you are handling it
the amount of material splashing out on the ground is astonishing
Great job! Thanks for speeding up the video where needed, I hate when people show 10 minutes of dumping dirt in their sluice. Most of the negative comments are from people who have never held a piece of gold like that one. I get the same remarks from people who want me to miss $100 and hour work to mess with scrap metal I give away instead of processing.
Wow, I wish I had that much material to throw around.
id say theres a lot of wasted gold in this process.
I've always wanted to see native gold quickly turned into a bar, like the old time miners might do it. Thanks so much.
There's more to life then money and gold. I think it's great that you shared this vid. The wilderness, fresh air and a visit from the neighbors cat while doing your own thing is perfect. Thanks for sharing!
Love how everyone in comments are pro miners.
You'd get better breakage if you set the rod on the rock and hit it with a hammer rather than using the rod as a hammer to hit the rock
"A lot of people are going to be mad at me"
There is a lot of negative comments for no reason! This man is very ingenuitive and resourceful ! A true gold refining bootlegger that gets better results than most of y'all.