Every week I watch you struggle pouring it into a cone mold. Have you ever thought about putting a bar across an area of where you pour into the cone mold. Use it as lever supporting the middle to back end of the big crucible. I think it would be way easier on your arms and shoulders.
I'm a wallpaper contractor, and I got a chuckle when you busted out the wallpaper smoothing brush to sweep gravel. maybe I can find an application for a gold pan in wallpapering.
Jason! You have this really casual calm mellow TV personality that I find refreshing if not calming. I love the mix of engineering and chemistry as well. Dan heard is awesome and a different way, he's over the top gregarious! I'm so glad you two work together and partnered on projects.
I was on this claim with Dan last summer, it's one heck of a hike in eh? lol It's an amazing location to pan and im glad you got the chance to join him there!! Cheers Jason!!!
13:39 In my City they recently passed a bylaw, called "Backyard Hen Program" .. and at this point in the video, I honesty thought one of my neighbours was harbouring an illegal Roster!!! LOL. But it was just one of Jason's! :) For the record if it was a Roster nearby, I would NOT have reported it .. I grew up on a farm, and woefully miss the Roster call every morning!!! :(
Not to long ago , keeping poultry in city limits was frowned upon to say the least , and it is still that way in a lot of places , especially in upscale locations with an overpopulation of Karen's , who lose their minds at the mere suspicion that a neighbor might possess live poultry . Enter the " chicken clicker " which makes a noise exactly like chickens clucking , made from a plastic drinking cup ( like a solo brand , etc ..) a cotton string attached to the center and and a piece of wetted foam or sponge pulled along the string . You can find these at flea markets sometimes . A few of these played in the vicinity of your local Karen will induce all sorts of entertainment , especially if your particular jurisdiction bans raising chickens .
This makes me ponder about the absolutely vast vast quantities of mule train and freight train loads of borax that had to be hauled to every smelter in the old west. The work force laboring at that occupation had to have been comparable to those down in the mines.
Jason, I always look forward to your new videos, and having Dan Hurd as a guest in this one truly is icing on the cake. Thanks for another educational and fun video!
Thanks Jason really enjoy watching your videos and look forward to them . Let me add how impressive Dans Beard is that’s some years of work with that bad boy
Jason, I cannot believe how big the two beads were just from the Fraser's black sands! 😮🧐 I wish you could have recorded Dan's expression as you told him the results! You had a serene look on yours, but your voice gave your thoughts away. That was a very surprising result indeed. Just to give you a hug smile and chuckle, you didn't have to get a new blower. As the old one was croaking loudly, your rooster could have finished the blowing, um, crowing just fine! Tee hee!! 😂🤣🐔 He was a'blowin' while a'crowin'!! 🤣 Thanks so much for sharing with us! You and Dan make a great team. Blessings from Alabama ❤️
Just for fun, what I like to do is, simply take those black sands from the pan, where I clearly see some fine gold and put them in a container for later. I then come home, do the best I can to pan out anything not gold and then dry it, and then just enjoy some quiet time, with a desk lamp, pinpoint tweezers and a loupe, taking out every piece of tiny little gold I can find. It ads up to nothing really, but I find the search kind of fun.
Spray the cone mold with WD-40 after using to keep rust free, better thermal conductivity and less contamination. Great recovery, Jason and thank you Dan.❤
One tip I can share that I learned from bigstackD, a piece of cardboard on top of the firebrick inside the furnace will keep the crucible from sticking.
Hey Jason ! I do enjoy your work. You get along and work well with Dan, it is entertaining. I have always loved 'equipment' and you do have the best toy's.
I've always regretted never going through the Bachelor's program for mining engineering at UNR (J-school Grad) and I really appreciate you and Dan's channels for bringing the history (mostly Virginia City and the Comstock Lode) to life a bit more than I realized.
Great video Jason! I once used a 5 gal bucket and pan, fill the pan quickly pan it down fill it up again until the bucket was done not as good as a sluice but pretty productive
25:38 about?? $35 CDN .. that cover some gas milage at least!! .. Nothing to sneeze at!! With a tiny volume of luck and another couple hours of panning ... it easily could have been $100 !! :)
yeah..we had one at work that ran for years and years and finally the switch died...so i just hotwired it and we switched it with the power strip....and we used that shop vac a LOT
Saw on another channel that does melting and he puts a piece of cardboard between the crucible and the surface it goes on to prevent it from sticking together. It's another TH-cam channel, so it may not be 100% true, but you may want to try that to prevent the fire brick from sticking to the crucible.
Thanks, your doing this smelting of Fraser black sand. This has solved a bit of a mystery for me. In the 1950s and 60s, my dad lived in settlements along the Fraser, in the search for the big find in the Fraser, and many of the other rivers in the area. They always made enough money to make the effort worthwhile, but never more than that.. He, and his buddies, always dreamed that they were missing a substantial amount of gold that was locked in the black sands, and your experiment proves to me that it was just a pipe dream. They also postulated, and from what he stated to me years later, they probably made some attempts at mechanically separating any precious metal from the black sands, but all attempts were futile. I can still remember back to the early 1960s, visiting with him in Hope, where he would pull out jars of black sand, stating that there was gold or platinum in there somewhere. It was always on the back of my mind, and I am satisfied that you have solved the mystery. (The reason I mention platinum, is that they also panned rivers as far east as the Princeton area).
I have a jar of black sand and I know that 2-5% of the weight is precious metals. It just takes too long and is not really worth it. Only reason why I keep it, is because trying to separate every tiny spec of gold is too difficult. I know I saw a few specs left in the black sand. Just a matter of some point in time trying to run through a miller table or blue bowl.
@@a.b.c.adventures3484wonder if crushing the black sand would help? There was exp in Yukon where a roller mill at 70 rpm for 6 minutes would fracture the magnetite but flatten the gold then the product went through a fine mesh strainer the sand now tiny went through but gold flatten was retained
My God your bedrock there looks like a flint Knappers dream. It all looks to me of some type of Green chalcedony... What I would give to have my billet stones to strike me off a backpack of spawls.
@14:40 What is the chemical or physical reason, that the metaloxides get absorbed in the cupel, but not the precious metals ? In case of silver oxide, would that also get absorbed ?
Hi folks, I'm a fan of precious metals myself in the distant Russia, but on the Fraser River the chance of making money on salmon is much higher than on gold. 😊 Although it all depends on the degree of influence on nature. You guys work very delicately. 😅
I analyzed some of the black sands in the midwest Glacial till rivers and found that the black sands were mostly bornite (probablty of Canadian glacial origin). Has anyone used bornite concentration as a tracking indicator ?
Off topic..i think you can design a cool roxk chipper to deliver a consistent feed for rock crusher..it would have to be able to go in a trench on be moved and have lateral capability too.
Equipment failure should be expected at the worst possible time. Very enjoyable to see the results. Unfortunately to get enough black sand for a profitable showing it would take more than a few day trips. I imagine Dan could get a few tons over many trips and maybe years but the cost and effort of smelting on a small scale would outweigh the gold recovered. Pan and take the visible gold let the river keep the sands.
I add a drop or two of oil to the bearings on my shop vac the first time it crows. Otherwise the shaft "rattles" more and more in the sleeve bearings rapidly wearing them out. Oil does attract dust though so not perfect.
I would love to go for a wk or 2, and just go Dan on some bars along the public access areas! Not lucky enough to know a claim owner, but would love that even more! I know i wouldn't get rich, but after that long, and a little luck, i could get what i need for a tiny home! I know prices, but i also know a private sawmill, and most would come off 10ac! Just a pipe dream, but still feasible!
20:02 I notice that you often add square cut iron nails, or as I see here 20:20 modern steel nails??) ... but the crucible never gets hot enough to melt them 20:40 ... Are they supposed to melt to liquid? If not does adding them, still work as intended??
They just soften, they don't melt. The iron acts as the replacement source in a single replacement reaction, replacing the bismuth so that it can fall out of solution.
Great video thanks Q for you... Can you xrf the black sand? If so, would that not help determine what flux recipe you would need? And another Q, how much would a xrf meter actually set you back? Cheers again for the collaboration with Dan, and producing great content.
A golfball. . yeah them balls are found on the strangest places . i was metaldetecting WW2 stuff and i found one far up in the woods at the foot of a mountain up in Northern Norway where nobody plays golf .. i refuse to believe a golfer was there golfing in that terrain . More like an airdrop
I would be curious to see what happened if you had taken half of the concentrates from the Frazer and roasted them, pulverize them, and then thrown them on the miller table. Which recovery method produces more gold?
Man I wish I could know when you will be in bc Canada again. I'd love to meet up with you and might be able to get my gold panning brother to join too.
If you want to increase the heat in the furnace you could get an oxygen and hydrogen tank powered by a water splitter and compressors and use that to power the furnace.
Was there any trouble at the border with either the sand or the gold? I've been wanting to do some rockhounding/panning/etc down there in washington & idaho, but wasn't sure they'd let me bring it home!
The funny part being that placer gold is worth a lot more in it's raw form than in a bead because jewelry makers love raw nuggets/flakes and will pay a premium, that and all the guys selling paydirt (like Dan and Shane Klesh) will pay a premium for it to put it in their paydirt.
That's a nice bead considering how much black sand Dan has chucked in the river. Probably a couple ounces of metal but I don't know how cost effective recovery would be without a large foundry
Every week I watch you struggle pouring it into a cone mold. Have you ever thought about putting a bar across an area of where you pour into the cone mold. Use it as lever supporting the middle to back end of the big crucible. I think it would be way easier on your arms and shoulders.
Or build a tipping frame to set the crucible in to tilt it's contents into the cone.
Or even simply raising the mold to an easier height on a table.
Everyone seems to have there way to pouring..
Its molten metal. Keep it on the floor for safetys sake!!
@@RICDirector It is on the floor.
It was satisfying to see that firebrick piece finally fall off after all this time.
Love watching everything bubbling in the cone mold!
I'm a wallpaper contractor, and I got a chuckle when you busted out the wallpaper smoothing brush to sweep gravel. maybe I can find an application for a gold pan in wallpapering.
Jason!
You have this really casual calm mellow TV personality that I find refreshing if not calming. I love the mix of engineering and chemistry as well.
Dan heard is awesome and a different way, he's over the top gregarious! I'm so glad you two work together and partnered on projects.
Dan is the man to go gold panning with
I was on this claim with Dan last summer, it's one heck of a hike in eh? lol It's an amazing location to pan and im glad you got the chance to join him there!! Cheers Jason!!!
I remember that video. 😎
next trip - a truck load of black sand, screened and processed on the shaker table.
13:39 In my City they recently passed a bylaw, called "Backyard Hen Program" .. and at this point in the video, I honesty thought one of my neighbours was harbouring an illegal Roster!!! LOL.
But it was just one of Jason's! :) For the record if it was a Roster nearby, I would NOT have reported it .. I grew up on a farm, and woefully miss the Roster call every morning!!! :(
Not to long ago , keeping poultry in city limits was frowned upon to say the least , and it is still that way in a lot of places , especially in upscale locations with an overpopulation of Karen's , who lose their minds at the mere suspicion that a neighbor might possess live poultry .
Enter the " chicken clicker " which makes a noise exactly like chickens clucking , made from a plastic drinking cup ( like a solo brand , etc ..) a cotton string attached to the center and and a piece of wetted foam or sponge pulled along the string .
You can find these at flea markets sometimes .
A few of these played in the vicinity of your local Karen will induce all sorts of entertainment , especially if your particular jurisdiction bans raising chickens .
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
This makes me ponder about the absolutely vast vast quantities of mule train and freight train loads of borax that had to be hauled to every smelter in the old west. The work force laboring at that occupation had to have been comparable to those down in the mines.
Jason the brush Dan handed you is for smoothing out wallpaper!😄😄😄
Jason, I look forward to each and every video. Simply awesome content. I Can’t wait for the new mining season…❤❤❤
Jason, I always look forward to your new videos, and having Dan Hurd as a guest in this one truly is icing on the cake. Thanks for another educational and fun video!
I put water in cracks that hold water and suck up the fine stuff with a turkey baster. Primitive but surprisingly successful for fine gold.
Thanks Jason really enjoy watching your videos and look forward to them . Let me add how impressive Dans Beard is that’s some years of work with that bad boy
Jason, I cannot believe how big the two beads were just from the Fraser's black sands! 😮🧐 I wish you could have recorded Dan's expression as you told him the results! You had a serene look on yours, but your voice gave your thoughts away. That was a very surprising result indeed.
Just to give you a hug smile and chuckle, you didn't have to get a new blower. As the old one was croaking loudly, your rooster could have finished the blowing, um, crowing just fine! Tee hee!! 😂🤣🐔 He was a'blowin' while a'crowin'!! 🤣 Thanks so much for sharing with us! You and Dan make a great team. Blessings from Alabama ❤️
Im glad you did a black sand smelt. ❤
Just for fun, what I like to do is, simply take those black sands from the pan, where I clearly see some fine gold and put them in a container for later.
I then come home, do the best I can to pan out anything not gold and then dry it, and then just enjoy some quiet time, with a desk lamp, pinpoint tweezers and a loupe, taking out every piece of tiny little gold I can find.
It ads up to nothing really, but I find the search kind of fun.
Thats my kind of entertainment...!!
I love the rooster responding to the dead blower.
Enjoy your show. Love to see you and Dan having fun. Go for it
The molten metal was mesmerizing to look at.
That was awesome to get that bead out of the oven.Great find.
The rooster trying to communicate with the dying shop vac/blower was so good 😂
😁👋👍👍👏👏💕🙏🏻
I love watching the melt, pour, cool, smash, bake and pull out the shiny gold process. Never gets old. At least I don't believe it will. 😂
You’re a great dude and I hope you continue to do what you love
minute 23. the change in the kiln was fun to watch.
Spray the cone mold with WD-40 after using to keep rust free, better thermal conductivity and less contamination. Great recovery, Jason and thank you Dan.❤
Wow! With those returns I would just be panning down to black sand, and bucket lining pails of cons up out of the river valley to smelt.
Pretty cool to see a local going out nearby and finding gold!
I came right on over when Dan said I had to so I could see your reveal. And I subscribed 👍
The convection zone show in that mold is very cool
One thing that came to mind as you were cleaning the crack,is that a 2 inch paint brush would be good to use to clean it out.
One tip I can share that I learned from bigstackD, a piece of cardboard on top of the firebrick inside the furnace will keep the crucible from sticking.
Hey Jason ! I do enjoy your work. You get along and work
well with Dan, it is entertaining. I have always loved 'equipment'
and you do have the best toy's.
😎👍
Thats why i like using black pans less shinny with the sun
I've always regretted never going through the Bachelor's program for mining engineering at UNR (J-school Grad) and I really appreciate you and Dan's channels for bringing the history (mostly Virginia City and the Comstock Lode) to life a bit more than I realized.
Dude! You have all of the "wish I had" equipment. Enjoy your toys brother.
Great video Jason! I once used a 5 gal bucket and pan, fill the pan quickly pan it down fill it up again until the bucket was done not as good as a sluice but pretty productive
Very nice pans! Looks super fun out there.
Love these gold hunting videos lol
just the video i wanted to see! God bless
25:38 about?? $35 CDN .. that cover some gas milage at least!! .. Nothing to sneeze at!! With a tiny volume of luck and another couple hours of panning ... it easily could have been $100 !! :)
19:34 yea bud, make it rain! 😂
Good video! That rooster had me looking around....LOL.
My shop-vac switch broke also, so I hard-wired it. Now it's on when I plug it in. lol
yeah..we had one at work that ran for years and years and finally the switch died...so i just hotwired it and we switched it with the power strip....and we used that shop vac a LOT
@@ssnerd583 I still use mine. lol
Thank you, keep working.
Awesome Jason thanks for sharing this six stars brother
Jason always doing cool smelting or using your very cool machines you make nice job
So cool 😊
I almost always see that big convection spot on Pluto when you put that stuff in the cupel holder.
You are interesting to watch your content is good.
Awesome video ! Thanks Jason ✌
Tkzz for sharing,.,.,.peace
1:44 bring a paint brush to sweep the cracks? Maybe a vacuum?
Thank you for the video it's very interesting how do you do all that but we all like to see the gold see you on the next one
Saw on another channel that does melting and he puts a piece of cardboard between the crucible and the surface it goes on to prevent it from sticking together. It's another TH-cam channel, so it may not be 100% true, but you may want to try that to prevent the fire brick from sticking to the crucible.
Makes one wonder, what may lie at the very bottom of the Frazer River channel.
Lots of nuggets maybe
brb sat dive
And the Canadian Columbia...
🤩Nice 👍👍
Thanks, your doing this smelting of Fraser black sand. This has solved a bit of a mystery for me. In the 1950s and 60s, my dad lived in settlements along the Fraser, in the search for the big find in the Fraser, and many of the other rivers in the area. They always made enough money to make the effort worthwhile, but never more than that..
He, and his buddies, always dreamed that they were missing a substantial amount of gold that was locked in the black sands, and your experiment proves to me that it was just a pipe dream. They also postulated, and from what he stated to me years later, they probably made some attempts at mechanically separating any precious metal from the black sands, but all attempts were futile.
I can still remember back to the early 1960s, visiting with him in Hope, where he would pull out jars of black sand, stating that there was gold or platinum in there somewhere. It was always on the back of my mind, and I am satisfied that you have solved the mystery. (The reason I mention platinum, is that they also panned rivers as far east as the Princeton area).
I have a jar of black sand and I know that 2-5% of the weight is precious metals. It just takes too long and is not really worth it. Only reason why I keep it, is because trying to separate every tiny spec of gold is too difficult. I know I saw a few specs left in the black sand. Just a matter of some point in time trying to run through a miller table or blue bowl.
See if you can find a Gold Drop, seems to do a really good job on stuff like that....
@@a.b.c.adventures3484wonder if crushing the black sand would help? There was exp in Yukon where a roller mill at 70 rpm for 6 minutes would fracture the magnetite but flatten the gold then the product went through a fine mesh strainer the sand now tiny went through but gold flatten was retained
310 👍's up mbmllc thank you for sharing 🤗
My God your bedrock there looks like a flint Knappers dream.
It all looks to me of some type of Green chalcedony...
What I would give to have my billet stones to strike me off a backpack of spawls.
awesome!
If you replace the rooster with a duck you can wake up at the quack of dawn!
Money cannot buy the ability to get out in mother nature!
I love the rooster in the background!! Lol
@14:40 What is the chemical or physical reason, that the metaloxides get absorbed in the cupel, but not the precious metals ? In case of silver oxide, would that also get absorbed ?
Hi folks, I'm a fan of precious metals myself in the distant Russia, but on the Fraser River the chance of making money on salmon is much higher than on gold. 😊 Although it all depends on the degree of influence on nature. You guys work very delicately. 😅
I analyzed some of the black sands in the midwest Glacial till rivers and found that the black sands were mostly bornite (probablty of Canadian glacial origin). Has anyone used bornite concentration as a tracking indicator ?
I have a thought 🤔 have you ever considered that when you think you have sulfide sand that it could be scheelite tungsten?
Off topic..i think you can design a cool roxk chipper to deliver a consistent feed for rock crusher..it would have to be able to go in a trench on be moved and have lateral capability too.
Hey Jason, I've seen guys place a little cardboard between the crucible and fire brick to create an ash layer and prevent sticking!
Cheers,
I was about to say the same
Equipment failure should be expected at the worst possible time.
Very enjoyable to see the results. Unfortunately to get enough black sand for a profitable showing it would take more than a few day trips. I imagine Dan could get a few tons over many trips and maybe years but the cost and effort of smelting on a small scale would outweigh the gold recovered.
Pan and take the visible gold let the river keep the sands.
Would you be able to crush and shake/pan the obsidian sulfide stuff from the heavy metals? Make the second melt less material?
I add a drop or two of oil to the bearings on my shop vac the first time it crows. Otherwise the shaft "rattles" more and more in the sleeve bearings rapidly wearing them out. Oil does attract dust though so not perfect.
i use the LPS greaseless lube on stuff like that....
I would love to go for a wk or 2, and just go Dan on some bars along the public access areas! Not lucky enough to know a claim owner, but would love that even more!
I know i wouldn't get rich, but after that long, and a little luck, i could get what i need for a tiny home! I know prices, but i also know a private sawmill, and most would come off 10ac! Just a pipe dream, but still feasible!
20:02 I notice that you often add square cut iron nails, or as I see here 20:20 modern steel nails??) ... but the crucible never gets hot enough to melt them 20:40 ...
Are they supposed to melt to liquid? If not does adding them, still work as intended??
They just soften, they don't melt. The iron acts as the replacement source in a single replacement reaction, replacing the bismuth so that it can fall out of solution.
Always find Dan at the bar lol👍
How does this method of separation compare to the efficiency of a centrifuge?
Jason are you planning on doing more mining this spring?
question...if one has inch to inch half rock samples showing coloer, can you melt the rockes directly and separate the gold/solver?
Always good
Youre a good guy
Jason, you seen the nuggets Pauly's been sniping in New Zealand?
Great video thanks
Q for you... Can you xrf the black sand?
If so, would that not help determine what flux recipe you would need?
And another Q, how much would a xrf meter actually set you back?
Cheers again for the collaboration with Dan, and producing great content.
A golfball. . yeah them balls are found on the strangest places . i was metaldetecting WW2 stuff and i found one far up in the woods at the foot of a mountain up in Northern Norway where nobody plays golf .. i refuse to believe a golfer was there golfing in that terrain . More like an airdrop
Peped up on goofballs
Thats the one that went missing from Niel Armstrong on the moon 😂😂😂
@@markmatt9174 lol :)
Can potassium nitrate be used for pyrite oxidation?
I would be curious to see what happened if you had taken half of the concentrates from the Frazer and roasted them, pulverize them, and then thrown them on the miller table. Which recovery method produces more gold?
Nice video
Love hearing the roosters in the background.
Your missing a pauly spoon works great on pickerton!
Man I wish I could know when you will be in bc Canada again. I'd love to meet up with you and might be able to get my gold panning brother to join too.
If you want to increase the heat in the furnace you could get an oxygen and hydrogen tank powered by a water splitter and compressors and use that to power the furnace.
Was there any trouble at the border with either the sand or the gold? I've been wanting to do some rockhounding/panning/etc down there in washington & idaho, but wasn't sure they'd let me bring it home!
Keep it real Jason! How many shovels to make a MT? Too many!
Friend ! Hello from Russia ! What material are your crucibles made of?
Would it be economical to smelt 1mt of black sands for $3k of gold?
Would it be better to use leeching to extract the gold?
The funny part being that placer gold is worth a lot more in it's raw form than in a bead because jewelry makers love raw nuggets/flakes and will pay a premium, that and all the guys selling paydirt (like Dan and Shane Klesh) will pay a premium for it to put it in their paydirt.
Woner if crushing the black sand would release any more gold?
That's a nice bead considering how much black sand Dan has chucked in the river. Probably a couple ounces of metal but I don't know how cost effective recovery would be without a large foundry
Your vacuum/Blower sounds like a broken chicken Jason....Thanks for the video too.