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- Talk's Mike Graham is joined by GP and CEO of Doncaster Local Dr Dean Eggit to address the future of the NHS.
Secretary of State for Health and Social Care Wes Streeting has started discussions with junior doctors and has said he is "optimistic" that the dispute can be brought to an end.
Dr Eggit says the future of the NHS is "going to overwork doctors to the point of burnout" in response to Wes Streeting.
Mike Graham and Dr Eggit also discuss doctors not working five days a week which Dr Eggit says "it's not possible to work five days a week and maintain mental sanity" as a doctor.
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#junior #doctor #strike
he's an arrogant kid
Over paid and underworked!! But are they taking on private patients on their time off?
good point, shame they didn't ask him.
Exactly. My eye surgeon told me he wont operate on my glaucoma yet as its a risk i could go blind when in fact the risk is bigger that i am already going blind from glaucoma as rhe visual field test show. His excuse for not operating was " They are busy" i paid privately in another clinic for a 2nd opinion and who appears before my very eyes, the same eye surgeon. Add to that im cenrally blind in one eye and have cataract growing in the orher. What are they doing about it? fuck all. My mum is 30 years older than me she had her cataracts done quickly in England but me in wales left to go genuinely blind not temporarily. Its gets worse because my neighbour works in that eye department abd told me to keep ringing them as they are not overly busy. The problem in wales is that the majority of people are so laid back that work in all fields doesnt get done if they worked in England not many would be kept in employment , hence the economy being dire in wales. I have another neighbour who cant get a apprentice for her electric door and garage company because it involves manual labor 😂. After about 50 interviews of nitwits obviously sent to her from the job centre rejects , she gave up looking folded her business as her dad was retiring and took a job elsewhere.
Exactly ten years ago after a cardiac arrest I was diagnosed fit for work six weeks later by a GP moonlighting for the NHS on her day off at£100 ago
Exactly.
As a practicing GP who migrated from Nigeria where we will usually do up to 90 hours of work a week,I can confirm to you that NO one can do 5 days a week of clinical work safely. In the past when patients were not as complex as they’re today,yes,and many were doing it. Not today!
Everyday you have to deal with blood tests, ecg and letters and make decisions on them before even seeing patients. You spend your time off work doing the same! Many compare their jobs with that but it’s just simply different and they have to understand that!
The complexity of the patients we have today makes it completely impossible and unsafe.
What a load of bull 🤬
GPs used to work 7 days a week. I think they have all gone soft. Lazy is the word.
What a load of tosh, 5 days to much, try 6 days like most do and much more tasking than a GP, what are we breeding???
i worked 5 days on 5 days off. with 30 days holidays per year you could have 6 x 15 day breaks per year. it was basically working 5 months a year.
All I heard was I want more money for doing fuck all, can't even get an appointment from one year to the next. The UK has shown it's true colors, they want us begging for slop and too I'll to resist
Weakness, it seems.
@@bongoon2552 society has breed weakness into people I think
Farmers have to do seven days, where livestock is concerned...
OMG what a load of BS! Is he a bloody brain surgeon or something? what stress? I think his own admission of plank of the week still stands!
Erm when you’ve made ‘mistakes’ because you’re in control of someone’s life and your decisions have consequences and then people make clinical negligence claims it’s tough. Back in the day doctors had more than 15 mins appointments for each patient GPs do lots of admin such as reviewing blood results which takes a lot of time etc the quantity of the woke load of huge that’s what makes the job hard. Guess you’re not a doctor so won’t have a clue. Listen to the voices of the people in the actual profession
@@Shootingstar91 Well I guess you should have read my other comment about overhearing two doctors outside the coffee shop discussing how they were going to make a mint off the NHS! They were more interested in making money than making life or death decisions
And yes others, aside from doctors, do have stressfull jobs that can have life or death consequences but dont burn out after 5 minutes!
I’m a Clinical Negligence Solicitor btw so my job is suing GPs and healthcare professionals to obtain compensation for patients who have suffered from mistakes that were made due to poor or rushed decision making. It’s not nice because the NHS is out of control so I’m not being biased! Objectively speaking if GPs had more time with patients they could do a better job and work more days and make better decisions. There is a real thing such as ‘decision fatigue’ patients are now getting pay outs hundreds of thousands worth so it’s wasting money this isn’t about being incompetent anymore it’s about rushing and working under high pressure the NHS make billion pounds worth of payments in compensation claims each year make it make sense. 👍 have a good day
@@Shootingstar91 Well lets hope you never need a burnt out GP ( not specialist, surgeon or consultant ). Sorry but this interview just makes him look lazy.
Nice day to you too :-)
I'm spitting feathers at this!!
3 days 😮
Where are all the real men now, I'm 65 and it seems we've bread wimps
What kind of bread?
@@SuperKendoman Bread that makes me so angry I lose the ability to spell 🙄
I never knew men could have babies!
What rubbish he talks.
i've never heard so much rubbish in my life, i do a 50 hour week, but i'm not burnt out, and im 54 years old ffs🤬
Does someone’s life depend on you making a decision ?
If he’s “burning himself out” after one day of doctoring, maybe he’s in the wrong profession?
this comedian ought to work in Industry! How the hell did doctors work for the past 100 years!! me doctors, friends of our family worked 5,6 and 7 days a week and did callouts at night.. This doctor ought to be sacked!
The work load on each day is unsustainable
Historically doctors would see 10-15 patients in 3 hours
Now they want you to see 18-24
You can’t make time
You can’t cut corners
Doctors choose to work less days per week because the days they work are worth more than a standard day anyway
When I was growing up in the 50s and 60s on a big council estate there were many young families. The local GP ran a surgery every day. He did it on his own. He had no receptionist or assistant. If you needed a home visit he was the one who come out. If it was an emergency call he came out. When you went in the waiting room you found out who was last and waited your turn. I'm sure many people my age will have a similar story.
Well said I remember them times
My doctor had open surgery from 8 to 9.30 I until COVID. Now you're lucky to get a same day appontment.
Agee 100 percent .Back in the 60's my GP ran his surgery every day, and if he was visiing neaby he would sometimes make a quick visit to our house to ask if our children were okay , could you even imagine any doctor now doing that ?
Well said I do remember them time , all they do now is keep on how hard it is sad😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢
Spot on. It was like that where I came from . You also see your own doctor
Most people dont even get to see the same doctor more than once. You always find yourself explaing the problem over and over and over
Poor doctors….NOT
So pay him the pay structure a doctor has for the 3 days and the other 2 days pay him a secretarial wage see what happens then 😡🤬🤬🤬🤬
He does not look to stressed to me. - plenty of time for two Tv interviews
This guy is an absolute joke. What is he in his 30s, and 3 days burns him out. What he fails to say is how much money he gets for his two days working for the NHS.
He needs to change his work and probably work part-time in Tescos, allowing a couple of days having a lie down.
Exactly!
can you imagine the employees of the mobile phone companies, utilities, etc saying sorry line manager i can't do phone calls on certain days, they would be sacked
Genuine question, do your doctors only work 8 hour shifts? In the US, so the shifts are 12 so working five days a week would be 60 hours. Additionally, there’s lots of research showing that errors go up when a person works more than two 12 hour shifts in a row.
This doctor is absolutely pathetic, no wonder the NHS is in the mess it is in, doctors should be doctors, can't work five days a week what kind of madness are we advocating, I really can't believe what this doctor is saying. GPS sit there and see patients for ten minutes and either send you off with a prescription or referral, it's bloody pathetic that a young man like this can't work a full working week. This bloody country has had it.
@@saje239 he's a GP. They work from 9-5 essentially. Seeing people in a calm unhurried environment.
This man is an example of a weak generation. 😡
What a total bloody wimp, what about the police, ambulance staff, firefighters? They know what stress really is. I'm very glad he`s not my doctor. I can imagine the poor delicate little man flower bursting into tears in the middle of a consultation and screaming at the patient that he can't cope with them having cancer/diabetes/depression as it's all to much for him and he needs to go home!
My husband was military on call 24/7 and not allowed to strike, went to war, didn't complain,
If it’s all that easy, you become a doctor
@@ipadprogamer6763 Oh dear, did my hurty words upset you, are you a delicate little flower too?
@@engenulf it seems you are hurt 😂 all I said was if it’s this easy, go ahead, do it, you’d be a great doctor, the world needs you lol
@@engenulf moreover anyone can become the professionals you mentioned with relative ease, there’s a reason why it requires dedication, more effort and higher education to become a doctor, understand the reality
All the executives of the NHS should be fired & staff like Matrons should be put in charge again. The execs cost far to much!
Nailed it 💯👌
@alidabotes6264 Well said.👍
Not the 1970s dear. People have much more complex needs than the days of sit up and take your medicine!
@@danh5637 He is a 2 day a week pen-pusher. He is correct about more people needing help with complex needs these days. Maybe start by getting one of his mates to sort him out.
Yes!!!!! Absolutely 💯 % my mum was a nurse before retirement. She saw these managers/administrative executives getting phased into the NHS running these services. They are completely useless. They are not hands on practical staff with up to date experience and they have ridiculous salaries whilst actual nurses get paid eff all work so damned hard. We need to employ less Agency nurses as well as they cost a fortune. They need to stop hiring foreign nurses and doctors as they do not meet the uk standards.
There was always the senior matron and senior doctor that ran the hospital.....and hospitals ran smoothly. We need things to return to this method of management.
And yet as nurses we're expected to go on and work every hour God sends
Nurses also have to work 12 hour shifts & deal with really ill patients, not someone who just walking in & out of a surgery, however ill they are.
This doctor claims it’s too mentally taxing!
Can’t possibly work for 5 days!
Strange because medical professionals in the military are required to do it every day for MONTHS.
Paramedics can work 5 days per week.
So can the police, and the fire service.
But he can’t possibly do 5 days!
Without falling apart 🙄
In Australia a large number of doctors surgery's are open 7 days a week , the doctors have a roster for the weekends . Doctors in this country are bone idle .
@@peterholden3672
How about in battlefield situations,or do they go home weekends?
@@peterholden3672
You asked when military doctors were asked to work for months on end,and i told you.
I didn't make any reference to civilians doctors doing the same,you made that assumption.
It appears you just desperately need something to moan about.
@@peterholden3672
Couldn't disappoint you and not give you something to moan about.
You got a response to the idiot question you asked.
They don’t do home visits anymore, back in the day a doctor was always available. Please ask him how he feels about the Govts flooding the country with more patients ?
The NHS App is a joke!
ive just retired as a community nurse and GPs occasionally do home visits usually to palliative patients and those who are house bound 111 visits still happen if some cannot attend a centre i have referred patients to 111 a lot of tasks are done by nursing staff death verification is done by nurses now and prescribing if qualified
Well that was all done when Blair was in power, wage rise and no evening or weekend working.
Doctors are not personal now, I'm a woman of a certain age and the system doesn't work anymore. Your GP knew your name and had a genuine interest in their patient....not anymore.
@@susanyoung2396I have been seeing the same GP for over twenty years, he greeted me by Cristian name, I could talk to him like I talk to anybody else I could be honest and open with him about my health issues and I trusted him. There are a number of GPS at my Surgery and all but one give the greatest care to patients, Yes we are very fortunate, we have a small village surgery but thousands of patients, the reception team are the best, they are friendly and helpful and go out of their way to be helpful. We do not have a modern medical practice in a huge building it’s small and friendly like they used to be, I may wait a day or so for an appt but in an emergency I would be seen the same day and we still get home visits. Surgeries have become too big, unfriendly and inpersonal we have a gem but I’m not saying where because everyone would want to transfer
The man is a genius. He recovers from 'burn out' three times every week. Put him in charge of the UK's mental health services.
What an asinine comment. He either knows nothing about mental health and exhaustion, or does and is making a ridiculous claim.
Here is a solution. Instead of paying GPs (and they are privately employed, not NHS employees) for the number of patients registered with them, pay them for the actual work they do.
He is a disgrace
@@annealbrecht396 big disgrace i love see him do it but wooden won't try it
If this person is burnt out after 3 days of work maybe they need to see a doctor,
thats if you can get an appointment.
They will get diverted to A&E
What are we breeding a load of wimps
There is no way on earth he has made 150 decisions in 60 minutes. He doesn't have enough patients that he sees to suggest that is even vaguely true.
GP's used to work five days! whats the issue?
Pathways, understanding systems, it’s nonsense jargon like this that wastes so much time and resources
My GPs surgery, they work 3 days NHS and at least 2 days private work but most people don't realise that it's going on . This GP is a good example of some of the excuses the GPs make , the greedy , lazy ones . Giving the GPs who are doing a 5 day week, a bad name which is unfair .
It's the same with the consultants in hospitals, that's why patients get stuck over the weekend period as they are often seeing patients that can't get to see them via the NHS waiting list so offer the same patient private access literally the next week. I know this as I worked with them in the operating theatre.
So every Doctor until the last ten years was burnt out?
GPs don’t do much work other than prescribing few basic medications and making referrals. I am puzzled by this doctor description of stressful work. You need to ask him what’s making stressful…😫😫 is it coming from staring at patients’ records….this fellow must be kidding…😂
Everything is electronic now, so that has to be a benefit & time saver.
He's a very elevated idea of himself...
I am surgeon 69,work six days a😢 week, attend to emergency on Sunday if any, what this joker is talking about, being a doctor, means hard work, passion, and being happy to treat cure sick persond
I worked with genuinely disabled people for over 30 years , They wanted to work , Employers , including the NHS didn’t want them , I also had to help a very distressed 80 year old mother with a non verbal daughter with Down Syndrome who had been threatened with having her benefits stopped because some idiot at DSS didn’t know what a permanent mental disability was, When it comes to cracking down on benefits and " getting people back to work " its always the wrong people who get targeted, There was a time people with learning disabilities could get jobs in manufactering on simple assembly lines, All that work has gone abroad so the opportunities just aren't there anymore , Wes Streeting knows Feck All
👏👏👏👏👏 THERES NO MANUFACTURING we make next to nothing 💯correct! Yet it’s all our own fault if we dare to be sick . The politicians make me sick
Think about old times, when dedicated doctors thought more about their patients then about themselves……they worked many hours, often badly paid, and spent hours on home visits for the needy, often till late at night , many of them were trusted and treated like friends of the family….
100% correct .
@@sunshine-qk8qe Old times where??? The soviet union? 🤣
I'm in he Army, can I only fight 3 days a week ?
bruh 🤣u dont even fight 1 day a week, pipe down. Plently of time to sit watching youtube videos eh
Are patients waiting to be seen not burnt out by worry by what impact the wait is having on their health?
cry me a river...the population is too soft....going to doctor for everything...thats the reason for the waiting list right there
Wana know why doctors worked 5 days a week before?
Because people actually took things on the chin and didn't sit and moan all day, so doctors actually had time to do their job!
Now they spend all day negotiating with people who fuck their own lives up and don't want to help themselves or accept that they're part of the problem or even listen to sound advice
lmao bet if it was fully private practice , he'd be working 7days a week
💯
Perhaps this Doctor took the wrong career path and would be better in an office role. First hour of his day that’s a laugh, every time I see a GP, my notes are read in my appointment time. Please ask about all the missed appointments and what do they do in that time…… I’d love to be there at 7:30am to see him arrive, my surgery is empty until 9am and again by 4:30pm The last doctor I had phone appointment with, said sorry she had to go now, to get her children from school.
The NHS GP I am registered with doesn't bother reading my notes at all, I waited five weeks to see her and in the five minutes in the room hadn't realised I had had failed varicose vein surgery on my leg and sent the wrong prescription over to the pharmacy.For my safety I have signed on with a private GP. He examines patients, He used to be an NHS GP and works holistically , prescribing medication is a last resort.reads notes and listens.He is an elderly man who must be at least 60
Having listened to the young man talk I thought he was 16 years old.
Doctors didn't use to spend two days a week improving the system and the system used to work!
If it is that taxing, he should not have another job 🙄
I am 65, the girls I went to school with and became doctors, worked 5 days, they were on call in the evenings and at weekends, they did home visits. These doctors are lazy, this all goes back to Tony Blairs too generous pay deal, most people can't afford to only work three days. THESE DOCTRS ARE LAZY. If we pay for a large part of their training we should make them work full time for at least the first ten years they are qualified, which is as long an many take to pay back their student loans.
Talking about the change in medical provision, not Medicine per se. @@peterholden3672
@@peterholden3672 Every profession has changed. If the profession is treated as just another job, it becomes exactly that, they're certainly not worth the money they are paid.
So he’s getting GP salary for doing an Administrative Assistant job 2 days a week 🤔. His salary reflects responsibilities. Something definitely wrong here!
They only get paid for the hours they work as a gp. No doubt the other job pays better, that's the incentive to work part time as a gp.
It amazes me how doctors think or believe only THEY perform mentally straining/ stressful jobs, and play the victim!! 'I'm a doctor and I have uniquely the hardest job on Earth!"
That honestly sound like a excuse, they choose to be doctors, they should have already accepted the responsibilities of what being a doctor means.
They only have themselves to blame since they choose to do this.
@@justiceiria869 well yes exactly. Another thing, in my opinion: we treat the NHS like some divine untouchable and infallible religion, so some - at least - in the service behave like disciples of a messiah! 😂
little wonder that many people are using mental issues as a reason for ability to work when listening to Doctors like this youngish G P
This bloke works as a comedian on the the other 2 days ,
Probably wont get much work then he will be relieved
Working 3 days a week he must be getting paid too much!
Remember that paramedic clinics are taking a lot of the load.
So what happened twenty years ago before Blair introduced the new contract for GPs. My friend who was a GP at the time wasn't burnt out however he did celebrate the new contract for several days as it gave him a huge pay rise and a three day week. Thanks Tony.😮
This doctor is kidding himself!
junior doctors are treated badly and badly paid but as they progress up the ranks there pay is exponentially better, as for GPs they should be contracted to work for the NHS and have no second jobs, Gps cannot work a full week because of stress, what stress ? compare this to a police officer or firefighter it is not comparable both the previous are under intense stress every day and get a third of a doctors salary, what they want is to work 3 days a week and moonlight in private medical care the other 4 absolute entitled hypocrites.
No they are not!!..They know very little when they 1st start out and are often in need of supervision by nurses
fat boy you've never worked a day in your life and you've probrably never met a fire fighter either or a police officer.
lmao 3/4 of the time police and fire guys are bored stiff sitting in their cars, tryna fine people for speeding or back at the police station doing paperwork.
Not a matter of 'burn out' as for generations we had doctors working very efficiently almost 6 days a week, but it's a case of young doctors being unwilling to fully commit themselves.
Look back at what used to happen in towns and villages, often only one or two GPs with one receptionist looking after thousands of patients, running surgery and even doing house calls most days! Now they want to do 3 days a week and allegedly charge for 2 more days doing 'paperwork', - so we're still paying them for the 5 days!
@@peterholden3672
Where did you learn that,from medical "experts"?
@@peterholden3672So? As do other professions.
‘Burn out’, I didn’t realise talking to a patient and writing down a prescription was so stressful.
There’s only so many itchy arses you can diagnose before you crack
@@ficklepickle5357😂
wow. . . the lack of self awareness is staggering . . . "I need to have 2 days doing something else (private practice) so I don't burn out on the other 3 days. . . . . (which is compounded by GP's taking time out of practice). . . . I used to be a support worker for adults with multiple and complex disabilities, and one of my shifts was 27 hours. . . . THIS IS THE PROBLEM WITH NHS DOCTORS LIKE HIM
are you sure you're not one of the adults with multiple and complex disabilities?
@@pierzing.glint1sh76 hmmm I'm so sorry I never realised you had the qualifications for Adults who have learning disabilities with multiple and complex needs, silly me
@@catherinegillan4404 sounds like a yes, you are one of those adults.
@@pierzing.glint1sh76 instead of having uneducated opinions . . . vote for Corbyn . . . yeah as everything you are saying is wasted might as well waste your vote
@@catherinegillan4404 sounds like you had a stroke in the last 15 mins
better ring 111
In days gone by my GP's worked 7 days a week did regular home visits and I clearly remember 3 Dr's after many years of service when I was in my 30's retiring. Dr Ball treated me at age 5 when I'd had an operation on my hand and he retired when I was in my 30's same for another Dr his name was Mayman and I forget the name of the 3rd. Too many leaning on the crutch known as stress if you ask me.
It's the problem for the doctors only in UK.
Correct .I have lived in Australia most GP's clinics / surgery's are open 7 days a week, the have a roster at weekend . Singapore is the same , and most of Erope and in certain states in the US.
@@sunshine-qk8qe ...........and they get paid much more to do so....and patients actually do what they're told, they dont listen to quacks on the internet and waste the doctors time with non medical crap like whatever social problems they're going through
poor lad.... probably needs a whole week off to recover from this interview..... having to deal with us mere plebs questioning his judgement, where will it all end!.....
He has told us exactly what is wrong with our whole health care system. I know this as a fact. In fact every profession in the NHS has " this" arrangement in their work areas. The work life balance and wanting to free oneself from " burnout" has crept into every nook and cranny like japanese knot weed. I do believe that doctors never stop learning. They are the only profession that cannot carry on in their jobs without constantly researching and updating their skills. The other professions can choose to stop or carry on studying if they want promotions. The NHS in desperation is handing out jobs to people with little or no experience and suffering the consequences of high sickness rates. However with staff entilement to 6 months of full pay and 6 months of half pay and very liberal sickness policies, there is no major rush for anyone to get back to work.
I can’t see how a Dr’s job is different from any other professional job such as an Airline Pilot.
Dr’s need to organise their working times within the limits just as a Pilot does. A pilot has flight time and duty limits, do Dr’s?
80% of the time the pilot is bored stiff sipping coffee or taking naps while the plane flies itself.
absolutely nothing like a doctors job
U fckin idiot🤣
Comparing himself to a mobile monthly data plan had me in stitches 😂😂😂
I done 7 days a week for 7 months in Afghanistan as an infantry soldier sometimes having an hours sleep and had to be professional and alert otherwise people died and this GP does 3 days wtf 🤷♂️
Thank you! 👏👏👏👏👏👍👍👍👍👍👍❤️
yes...and I'm sure being on one hours sleep made you more alert and significantly more productive. i know for a fact infantry 90% of the time you were sat around doing nothing trying not to fall asleep an try an remember what your orders are
u fckin idiot🤣
Why doesn't the NHS work a rolling week like some industries of 4 on 4 off then we have weekends covered as well
What a joke 😂😂 i worked 10 hour shifts 5 days a week in a council call centre dealing with over 20 services, all services had daily changes or amendments to them, then i took calls which were timed and i never knew what was coming down the line, most of which affected peoples lives, from dealing with homelessness, debt, hardship and dangerous buildings, along with ocassional suicide calls..had to know what to do and how to get the help needed, with a half hour lunch break. Listening to people crying, shouting etc, especially through the pandemic with too many death registration calls...no mental health support and paid 12 per hour...proud to do it ..this guy doesnt know what hard work is mentally. .jog on ! Hes in the wrong job
Bus drivers have to make decisions all day - decisions that could be life threatening. Should they work in the office every second day planning bus routes, or other such tasks (after all the drivers knows the routes better than non drivers),
I lived in South Africa for a long time doctors there work 5 days a week and some are also on standby ,they don’t seem to be stressed
What on earth!
My mom always worked 5 days a week. If so frigile that you can not manage normal working week so, maybe you shoyld not be a doctor...
Having recently spent over 9 hours sitting in A&E with a friend whose GP told her to go there for a blood test, I suggest Junior doctors working in that environment need a regular break, not GP’s
Your GP is perfectly able to take a blood sample and send it for analysis.
The problem with GP surgeries is that they're paid by how many people are on their books, and not by how many patients they see. Start paying them by how many patients they actually treat. You wouldn't have any problem getting to see a GP!
If they can’t work then they should removed from the payroll after six months, then put them on the dole.
I know for a fact the surgeons and kings college hospitals are gaslighting they done it in my case
Pretty sure pilots work more hours than this guy, and that is WAY more mentally taxing
Most jobs are mentally straining if you do it correctly. How long before a doctor can’t work more than 1 day a week ?
My surgery have doctors working a 2 day rota already....
I have never heard such utter tripe for many a long day. I suggest this 'doctor' tries some other professions - the law, airline pilot, front-line police - to find out what 'burn-out' really is.
Or even driving a bus 5 days a week.
Is he an A.I. doctor? It's hard to fathom these days.
I'm self employed and often work 7 days a week. Poor Doctors only being able to work 3 days a week, and probably earn far more than most people.
Seriously? So all GPs have only ever worked 3 days a week? They do most appointments b y phone call also these days. There waiting list for a face to face is approximately a 2 weeks to a month. All of these methods that slow down the flow of patients through the GP's office and reduce the daily work load. Do you really believe they are facing burn out on a daily basis? What historical back up of this is there? None! We used to be able to book in to see a doctor in a week or in a few days because doctors were there every day! They are trying to rewrite history to excuse the fact that there are not enough doctors. Furthermore, on the days in between doctors are doing another job that only they have a special perspective on? Give over! They don't want to pay anyone else or train anyone else because there is no money. There are prepared to make patients wait instead! And why? Because the longer the patient waits, the closer they are to death and death is cheaper than care. Stay on the meds and die. That's our NHS.
Our old family doctor was working 5 days plus house calls...but this was back in the 80s. So happy to see things have improved...🙃
I am surgeon worked in NHS for 8 years, 1986- 1993, since then NHS has detriorated, no one in NHS want to work be a doctor or other staff, GP services deteriorated since were given budget, try to save as much as they can. Underworked, overpaids son in laws of UK
Wat is he saying? Doctors all over the world work all day, they are on call!!! Shut up!!!
Has he ever worked anywhere else, like in a factory or being a galley boy in the merchant navy?
Or even tried nusing in a hospital for a solid week?
I think there has been too much admin added to drs work. They need to concentrate on seeing patients. Maybe more admin or PA's are needed.
That's why they have a whole team of secretaries.....so they can all sit around drinking their teas /coffees and chatting with each other instead of doing what they're paid to do....their job as staff to the GPs.
Bring back the old days life is all about money 💰 these days pay though the nose 👍👋
What about the dr on Ae front line they work all hours mums work 24hrs 7 days awk plus i had 3 jobs he is pathetic no wonder we have waiting lists . Years ago gps worked 7 days awk and nights
Disgusting since when was doctors working 3 days a week a thing .. what a hours is that. I work 5 nights a week in mental health, and they still expect more from us . Yet we can't see a doctors
A GP doing 3 days a week seeing patients works about 38-40hours per week.
What a load of small round things! You should t be a GP if you can't work a t day week. Plenty of people manage it. Just get somebody to do tbe admin work!!
I bet he works 6 or 7 days a week ! Its all money, he has billions of pounds worth of diagnostic equipment & technology plus highly trained staff so he can do a clarks job ! Think he would like a nice job in NHS administration ! More chiefs not enough indians !
I can't believe he has got the front to come out with such nonsense my doctor isn't working at all just box ticking
I'm 66. I've had a couple of great GPs over the years. They did 5 days A car mechanic spends 5 days a week diagnosing problems with cars. He's a snowflake.
Doctors don’t work anywhere like how they did before COVIT most of them work from home it’s a complete disgrace
this is intelligence ????????????????????????????
They striking because they are greedy
Mental strain - looking at the answer to a patients problem choosing which drug to prescribe from a computer screen
Ask if his doing private patients
Clearly the wrong people are pursuing medical careers. I was always told that it's a vocation but evidently it's a part-time vocation which is nonsense. This guy is an administrator not a genuine, bona fide doctor. He can go to Canada or wherever he likes, I suggest he does so.
Get Rid,,Tax Payers are fuming..What are we paying for.....Nothing??
It’s no longer a vocation sadly it’s gone from one extreme where gps used to work 6 days AND visit their patients at home too now it’s gone too far in the other extreme For years now evenings and nights have been covered by locums and also weekends at huge cost too. Additionallity ?.. what kind of gibberish is this I don’t agree with his argument Thank goodness he’s not a surgeon. This is an argument for making your job a hobby instead of fulfilling a demanding job and taking relaxing holidays He’s not making his own medications in his office as they used to do. Inefficiency. Absolutely right This man need to do something else
He can't see an anymore 'huge' amount of patients on one day than Drs used to unless he's giving them less time, which is where many of the problems of oversubscribing and missing underlying conditions come from. I'm glad he's not my GP (although I haven't actually ever seen my doctor since I registered nearly 10yrs ago).
Also, if he has to work on 'pathways' two days a week, it suggests either he's not doing a very good job putting the right systems in place and/or there are a load of managers being paid to do nothing. It looks like there is a need for more highly trained medical administrators (even an alternative job for 'burned out' doctors and nurses?).
Can't believe what I'm listening to right now sitting outside my local coffee shop! Two doctors discussing how to set up a "pathway" probably an app for some NHS system only to declare to each other that when they come to sell it, they will make far more than their wages and will retire like Kings. Ffs this is their 2 days a week pathway job because they are burnt out trying to extract as much as they can from the NHS for their ideas and not doing their jobs as doctors! Jeeees no wonder the NHS is so f'd. 3 day week doctors wanting a 35% payrise!
It's impossible to work for 5 days as a GP?
FFS - what about the hospital surgeons/ consultants, they work from 7am - 6-8pm, 5 days a week- AND, IF NEEDED - will come to help out at the weekend if there is a serious incident at the hospital where they are based. ALSO CONSULTANTS/SURGEONS - conduct very challenging and complex surgeries, under immense pressure, GPS don't do this!
Sorry, but consultants do all this and MUCH, MUCH MORE - I worked as a Registered nurse for 35 years plus and loved my work...Never strike, no matter what the reason..its a matter of morals!
as a registered nurse aren't u supposed to be a good listener? He said the many many decisions are whats exhausting. ( (decison fatigue)
Surgeons don't make 100 decisions like GPs. They don't even have to consider what the patient wants and deal with all their mental issues. They just do whatever they're trained to do, like robots. There's not much decision making, If something goes wrong, a senior steps in, or it just gets put down to ''unforseen complications''.
they dont get frustration from the patient making a daft choice that goes against medical advice.
Surgeons and consultants don't have to deal with any of that crap. The favourite saying among hospital clinicians to any daft and difficult question from a patient is ''ask your GP'', dumping everything back to the GP
You've never noticed this???
so why dont u put two and two together?
No wonder NHS is failing with plonkers like you stealing a living for so long....
I honestly dont believe you were a registered nurse. You cannot be this ignorant. You can't. You really are exquisitely stupid.
Normally what happens is the doctor gives you a 10 minute appointment. The NHS is riddled with poor administrative performance.
My example, went to the GP and was given an appointment at a local hospital that didn't perform the procedure i believe i needed which would have meant being re-referred to a hospital that did have that capability, wasting time and an appointment. In addition the letter about the appointment said it was a telephone appointment and (in capitals) NOT TO VISIT the hospital, only for the NHS website to say it was face to face. I then asked the receptionist to ask the GP to change (with my reasons on an Email which was responded to be an administrator) only for me to hear nothing and then when i asked why i was told the doctor wants to know why you want to go to that hospital.
I had to forward the emails to the practice manager who called and sorted it. But whst an unnecessary waste of my time and the NHS'.
Listen to others anecdotes this is not an isolated incident. Im fortunate enough to not have many health issues, but then again i do try my best to look after myself, rather than running to the surgery every 5 minutes!
And Wes is my local MP ,.....i think ill forward on the exchange to him !
It’s ok for nurses to work 5+ days a week though. Oh my heart bleeds for these doctors