I don't think the Austin powers thing was a joke. More like something widely known to show how the cult are not completely out of touch and help fool the characters into a comforting environment. Also shows how disturbing the cult members are by actually liking something as popular and completely contrasting to their life style as a film like Austin Powers.
Joe - The noise and movement you see and hear after Josh takes a hammer to the head are the agonal breathing of a dying person and muscle spasms as a result of traumatic brain injury.
Midsommar is about drinking, complain about the weather, then drink some more. We also dance around a big pole, drunkenly. Then we sacrifice a virgin to Odin and drink her blood. Nothing special really.
@Cult Mechanicus, good for you. The amount of flippancy and downright dismissal of evil in contemporary society can make you feel alienated when you perceive it. But, it's most assuredly *there* , and it's most assuredly *real* . The truly insane are those who have such perceptions but forcibly tip their fedoras and try to pretend as if Christianity is just another bednight story.
FYI: 1. The character wearing Mark's (Will Poulter's) skin was Ulf - the guy who was angered by him taking a leak on the tree over the deceased relatives. 2. Simon's body was suspended via the torture technique called Blood Eagle.
Took my mom to see it. There were four other elderly people in the theater. All four walked out before the end of the movie. My mom fell asleep and hated it. I fucking loved it.
The awkward thing is that I went to an early day showing and there was only an elderly couple and me, lol never wanted for a nude scene to end so quickly like that time.
This so much. This is definitely a divisive film but I absolutely loved it. I think a film can be either ok for everyone, or perfect for someone. And I prefer the latter.
Power Forth - What you said couldn’t be further from the truth and misses the point we’re discussing. I’m confused. Did you see the films you mentioned? If you saw Midsommar, the original Wicker Man and the so inexplicably awful it’s good remake, you’d know that not only are they very different films but, within the context of my original message, expressed completely differently.
Rob Vespa Expressed differently, yes. Very different in premise and imagery? I don’t know...how is the basic premise so hugely different? Both have basic themes of paganism, cults, villagers, outsiders, and unsettling atmosphere. It’s not to say they aren’t different stories but the similarities are there. Plenty of movies have these tropes. It’s not a bad thing.
Clay Hopkins Yup. They either get in your head or they don’t lol. This and heredity both shook me too. This movie left me feeling nauseous and I’m not sure why
34:20 Wrong. The ways they are sacrificed aren't random. Ancient European sacrifices were often based on the Four Elements, obviously Ari Aster knows that and applied it to his film: - Simon, blood eagled and suspended in the company of birds: Air. - Connie, drowned: Water. - Christian, burned alive: Fire. - And Josh, buried: Earth (I guess they buried him with one leg sticking out to symbolise a sprouting plant).
I just watched a video the other day where they talk about this. I didn't know that some think of this as a real medical condition. I'm laughing myself to death just thinking about implications of this.
They did a good job replicating a mushroom trip in this movie with the wavy trees and moving/flowing pattern on the trunk. Also when they get there the background moving with the outline of the house.
Lots of banging to repopulate the cult...I was surprised they didn’t take the Midsommer Queen into a room and bang her but perhaps they about to when she departed from their request to see what was going on with her BF.
This movie did a great job simulating mushroom trips and the types of visual effects it has. some movies just show everything being trippy and crazy and weird but it's not realistic. the accuracy and subtlety was spot-on especially with the slight warping of things all throughout different shots. I think it really helps someone understand how things could go the way they did narratively. you don't have to have tripped on mushrooms to understand or appreciate the film, but, if you have, it really adds a lot.
Not to be "that guy" but you guys didn't get the sacrifice portion. They didn't have to die, they all broke some sacred ruling except Christian. He was chosen by Dani, between him and the lottery winner. The British couple, however, were brought specifically to be sacrificed. That's why the guy that brought them was sacrificed as well. 4/9 sacrifices were their own. Could have been 5/9 had Dani chosen differently, but that choice represents her choosing the new "family"
Wait so everyone did not have to die they broke some sacred ruling? Except the British couple? Didn't Pelle have to bring the British couple? He didn't have to die. The British couple broke no sacred ruling. The obnoxious dude broke the rule of pissing on the sacred tree but knew no better. He should have been excused. Unless his obnoxious behaviour broke some rule. The black dude was exploiting the cult for his story but so was Christian and he would have been allowed to live had Dani chosen. But they chose him to impregant some cult member anyway. How did they know the black guy was going to try to photograph the book? They showed up to kill him with a mallet wearing his dead friends face then his dead body was raped before he was dragged off. They too much anticipated this. Not only did they kill the British couple but one was still breathing with his lungs halfway removed through blood eagle. Why torture him? I am pretty sure the intent of Pelle and the deal he made with the cult from the beginning was to give Dani the energy drink so she could win the May Pole dancing contest(in June of all things) and make Christian impregnant the girl so she would get jealous and chose him to die. There was no way Dani would be harmed because Pelle was in love with her or something. From the beginning it was so obvious everyone but Dani was going to die. From the moment they were all sitting in the dorm room smoking weed and planning the trip and Pelle looked in Dani's eyes starstruck and invited them all to the festival it was so obvious Dani was going to be the only one who lived. Sure you didn't know she would be crowned May Queen and chose the last death but still.... It was so obvious. This is the only thing I did not like about this movie. The movie was brilliant no scene of acting was overdone the cinematography was brilliant, the pace was brilliant it was slow and progressed evenly like a Hitchock film it wasn't full of cheesy bullshit FX like the driving beheading in Hereditary which was when I changed the channel. What it lacked was an authentic ending which revealed hard to predict facts and character development. The characters were so uninteresting. No background, no development, nothing that made you get attached to them. It was more like the character development was all based on the cult and the environment. Yet still you never felt too attached to any one character. Not even Dani. Even if she had died I would not have felt bad. I would not have cared if this had been a 3 hour movie and much longer if they had just fixed a few things and put a more interesting ending and less corny Valhalla Nordic cult mythology and something suspensful to be like "I did not see that coming." Like what if the cult had been completely non violent and Dani had done all the killings because she flipped because her parents were murdered and it was revealed at the end. Or something. Something besides that garbage totally predictable all the friends die except the main character ending. This could have been one of the most brilliant movies ever made. The slow pacing day time horror scenario. The notion presented something was wrong with the cult no matter how polite and how many drugs and food they gave everyone. They even said they were going to watch Austin Powers. Remember in Austin Powers when Scott was like "you are feeding them? Cmon, I have a gun in my room. I go grab it. We blow their brains out. Boom done." Ironic huh? I mean they should have filmed them watching it and showing that scene. It would have made the movie brilliantly ironic. I would have liked any ending except the main character lives while all the friends die ending. Otherwise it was an awesome realistically disturbing film about how horrific a day time super polite and outgoing hippy type group of people could be. It could have been worst also I get that. I mean at least there was some non expected twist to the story but still....... It just detracts from the realism to have a one way scenario, a one dimensional predictable ending even if the path to the ending was non predictable and scary. Like I said it could have been worst. It just also could have been much better.
Just to let you know, Midsummer (or Midsommar) is a Swedish holiday and it takes place in the middle of summer (21st of June) and sometimes, we have this pole in the backyard which we dance around. Glad Midsommar, för en slumpmässig svensk person. PS: Jag vet att det är juli
Loved this film. I feel the characters are intended to be realistically unlikable. Then by the end, the audience struggles with how they feel. Do the characters deserve this? Do we?
Dani didn't deserve any of it. She is gaslit, manipulated, lied to and generally treated like shit throughout the movie, to the point that at the end it woul've been more merciful to sacrifice her as well. This movie made me really dislike Christian, but I loathe the Harga even more.
@@DrGregoryHouseIT Logically, you may be correct. But i didn't feel that way. She's portrayed as unlikeable, clingy, and weak - perhaps unfairly - but to an extent that i "felt" (not thought) that her concluding role as summer queen... a kind of unwitting accomplice (she did select her boyfriend)... was a perfect way to empower her and punish her simultaneously.
Good point. The characters were unlikeable but not overtly. Like the girl was annoying and clingy . The boyfriend was a jerk who didnt really care about her , the one friend was ignorant and just wanted to get laid. but youre right, by the end I felt bad for them.
@@DrGregoryHouseIT Yes Dani is manipulated, but not treated like shit, on the contrary, they seduce her into the cult. They had her win the May Queen contest and bless their crops to make her feel proud and needed.
Im gonna be honest guys it really dropped the ball its just 3 hours of unexplained weird shit and all of the characters are really annoying especially the main girl i cannot reccommed tgis movie but tell me wat you think if you decide to see it me and my gf didnt like it too much
@@TurboThunderGaming I don't think he knew he was drinking. Blood also I think he just chalked the hair up to them not wearing hair nets when cooking. I think it all clicked for him when that lady suggested that he impregnate that girl.
@@nashscheber2696 You are funny. You accuse me of having a small brain yet you cannot capitalise the beginning of a sentence, use the wrong 'to' and fail to add punctuation at the end of a sentence. But I would like to understand what you liked about the movie so much. Enlighten me.
@@nashscheber2696 It was you who got riled up by my interjection and then insulted my intelligence. Thank you for clarifying what website we are arguing on too, just in case I had forgotten.
Hereditary is a horror masterpiece. If OJ and Alex felt like it "meandered" and like much didn't happen, they need to watch it again, because there is stuff going on from the first scene, to the horrifying finale.
sometimes you don't get it has legs to stand on but it should never be the go to defense for anything, it should come with a long list of other defenses.... if you use a defense like that and just that you're a fool lol if you have a point and you can at least toss 2 other things as well then I might listen to the defense.... like my defense of real Star trek and attack on STD is it's poor writing, poor acting, too much action, no diplomacy, breaks canon and the morons who run it don't get Star Trek...there
@@zaysavage5393 It's pretty obvious by how much of a slow burn this movie is, that it's not for mainstream casual audiences. The people who make Transformers billions of dollars aren't going to see Midsommar
@@zaysavage5393 no I'm just stating a matter of fact. Mainstream audiences didn't like movies such as It Comes at Night, The Witch, and Spring Breakers. Those were all unconventional films that didn't follow what audiences are used to. Also box office numbers speak for themselves and those movies were not financial hits but transformers 1-4, almost any blumhouse horror film, the conjuring movies, all those made rediciulous amounts of money because they pandered to the largest demographic possible.
I think what you're thinking of is the "Blood Eagle" and the vikings actually did not do these. It is a literary device in Norse culture but there are no accounts of the ritual being practiced. Edit: Love that Stuff we forgot section. My only suggestion is to make the arrow that comes down fall off screen. It would imply you forgot to attach it to the top of the screen.
well I really enjoyed slow-pace, audio, perfectly depicted tripping effects, the great camerawork of course, but the last 20 minutes were simply over-the-top, it was a total contrast to what we have seen for 1,5 hour, i wouldn't mind if it was slow-paced with people gradually disappearing until the end, but i feel they went for a cheap attempt to do something to shock the audience and make them very uncomfortable. I just hoped this will be kinda movie show less to show more, but trailer was kinda misleading.
That one was meant to be a portrayal of Celtic (Irish) Paganism. Midsommar is about Swedish Paganism... or at least Ari Aster’s version of Swedish Paganism. I am not sure if this is an authentic portrayal.
It’s not horror. It’s a thriller in my book. Not disturbing at all. Maybe my mind is wasted from seeing a lot of gore and shit but it definitely was nothing like what hereditary brought to the table.
Newera_ I have the same sentiment about Hereditary . I hate that people think that a slow burn is synonymous with boring. I am excited to watch this film. Will be watching it on July 4th.
@@dogsbreakfast4952 Chuckie might be more up your alley. My friend couldn't understand Hereditary but he loved Chuckie. And he also didn't get wtf was goin on in Bird Box either.
Hereditary was the worst movie I saw that year it came out and I had movie pass watching everything that came out basically. It was so boring and stupid, that whole act where the girl eats cake at party then gets hit by a pole??? So fucking dum no one can every explain how this movie good ,ever
Joseph Hernandez I don’t really want to get all “high school English teacher” on you but that whole “act” isn’t necessarily supposed to be taken at face value. In fact, the way in which the younger sister dies is only important in that the blame is put on the brother. This sets up the rest of the act of how grief affects a family and how each individual deals with said grief. I think that if you go into an ari aster movie looking for plot holes you’ll find them in droves and have a very bad experience but instead if you search more for the message that is being conveyed and the masterful way that message is articulated, it can be a great one.
the lung kill in the film is called the blood eagle it was a viking execution where they would cut open your back remove your ribs from your spin then they take you lungs from your back and place them over your shoulders to look like the folded wings of a great eagle.
this guys feel how I felt...I didn't hate it, I didn't love it, at times I was bored but I also appreciate the entire film...I'm left confounded in a sense haha
lol these guys are stupid. you are engaged very early in this film, it doesn't keep the shocks till the end like they say. you are already like wtf in 30 mins.
They had the heads of the elder couple in the yellow building at the end, along with the two friends and the couple, and the two sacrifices, along with her bf. So 9 people. They needed 9.
Favorite movie of the year for me. The themes are what really make this movie. SPOILERS: I would say I think Hereditary is ever so slighlty better. Both movies showcase dread, guilt and depression really well, but Hereditary's just works slightly better. Midsommar perfected other aspects and was thematically more interesting. The first 20 minutes is perfect for setting up the dread this movie shows. The opening art piece resembles the overall tone this movie shows through its dread and depression. The wintery scene we are shown was also great contrast for the movies tone. All of the art pieces actually tell a story very similar to the films and in same ways forebodes a lot of what is going to happen. Florence Pugh was phenemonal and this movie was very much her descent into insanity after her families death, she ultimately accepts the cult as her family which can be seen in the final shot. The oracle serves great purpose because the cult believes the mentally disabled think in ways we cant and are ultimately unique and special. I felt like all if these characters felt real and there communications felt more down to earth. Pelle's character also forebodes a lot of the stories plot. I watched this movie as Dani's character slowly becoming more broken throughout and i loved it. 10/10
AshenOne61 6 Are you okay ? This movie was very slow boring and funny at the same time. The acting was awful. This is my oppinion I respect yours but please explain to me what was great about this movie. For me it was the worst cinema experience ever.
@@gergoonodi2761 Brilliand and stunning cinematograpfy, AMAZING ACTING,AMAZING ACTING,AMAZING ACTING. Great plot, sacrifications, nudity, beautiful & creepy message at the end. I think ur not ok
I walked out of this thinking there was no hidden meaning. Just some friends that tag along to a trip to sweden, walk into a cultural horror show and get mixed in. A lot of easter eggs and nods to the Swedish/Scandinavian culture and thinking back, there was a lot of foreshadowing, but I think it was just one of those "along for the ride" type films. It did have me go "what the fuck" soooooo many times though.
You guys talk about the length and the pacing a lot. This movie is meant to be an experience that puts you in with the characters in their situation. It's about the mood and the feeling, the journey more than the destination. It was paced for the people who want to go all in and immerse themselves in this very bright dark world. If it's not a ride you want to go on, a 90 minute running time really wouldn't change your opinion of the film. I think it was actually perfectly paced, so we could feel the "frogs being slowly boiled' experience the characters go through. The story doesn't rely on twists, turns and action. It's a psychological experience much like a real acid or mushroom trip. A lot of people don't see the connection of the opening to the rest of the film. The purpose of the opening was to give background on Dani's emotional state and how her losses and lack of connection to her world would make her susceptible to the influence of the cultists. The 3 men and Dani are actually in a very different type of film from each other. The men are in a folk horror film and Dani is actually in a fairy tale story.
I definitely wouldn’t recommend the film to very many people but I liked it and Hereditary. It’s definitely my kind of horror. I disagree that it waited till the end to go nuts. I think it did pepper several moments throughout starting from the beginning but I won’t name them. And there was a scene for sure that made me and a buddy jump similar to a scene from Hereditary but I wouldn’t label it a jump scare. It didn’t rely on music at all. Cultish films have always been interesting to me. This one made me think of the old 70s movie The Wicker Man.
Based on your reaction Joe, I feel like you would really appreciate a korean film called The Wailing from 2016. You guys should check it out if you haven't already :D (it's a psychological horror - best to go in blind)
They know about Austin Powers because the elders were perusing a laptop while the fresh sacrifices were taking Psyliosibins at the beginning of the movie. It's a quick cut you might miss it.
I just watched Hereditary for the first time, and both my boyfriend and I absolutely loved it. We both agreed how we felt a building sense of dread during the entire movie, and I thought they did sprinkle in some subtle things throughout to maintain interest and suspense. That movie stuck with me.. After loving Hereditary so much, we decided to give Midsommar a shot. Other than the cinematography, I thought this movie was horribly slow and boring. I didn't care about any of the characters, and honestly I wasnt a fan of the acting either. The "plot" was meandering and abysmal. An hour and 20 minutes into it, I kept checking the time and seeing how much of the movie was left. I came so close to turning it off but I wanted to find out what the hell was going on, and I was hoping it might surprise me and get better... it didnt. The "pay off" was not worth it. I definitely did not feel the same sense of dread and suspense that I did with Hereditary. I can appreciate slow burns, but the pacing in Midsommar was glacial with not enough happening to really keep you hooked.
"Does not have a Hollywood ending." Joe... That's a good thing. People need to be less dense (not speaking of Joe,) we need more films that strive to be art.
I absolutely loved this movie and hereditary is one of the best horror movies in quite awhile. The movie is supposed to be weirdly confusing and scare you with anxiety. In hereditary the scariest part is when the mother is yelling at the son downstairs and the camera flashed back and fourth and creates panic in you in a way I’ve never seen, its a lot scarier than any jump scare.
I like this film I will never watch it again most audiences will hate this but I still recommend you see it. It’s a unique vision on a budget we rarely see anymore. Also to comment on a point made in the video this divided critics last I checked it was sitting in the low 70% range.
The viking execution method you talked about was called a "blodørn" which translate to "blood eagle". The execution ritual is only mentioned in the sagas from 1100-1300 . In the sagas the king of East Anglia Ælla was executed this way by Regnar Lodborg's son Ivar Benløs (Ivar Boneless) as revenge for his father's death by snakes. In the technical execution of the ritual the executer would cut loose the rips from the spine with an axe thereby create slits on both sides of the spine. Through those slits you would pull out each lung and placed on the shoulders of the executed as an eagle spreading it's wings. Normally the victim would live on for a few minutes afterwards but we are not certain how long it really was. It was considered a very humiliating execution method,.
They didn't rele plan to kill kill her bf. They gave her a choice of individuals, including her bf, to be the last sacrifice needed. Dani chose him 🤷🏽♀️ and that was a culminated decision based off of events in the movie and her analysis of their relationship which was brought up to her by the cult friend.
They gave her a choice. My guess is they got him to cheat on her to give her reason to choose him even though in my opinion it wasn't his fault. He was a bit of a ahole but didn't deserve to die like all the others They drugged him and messed with his mind. She was also drugged and messed up so I don't really blame her actions either. Blame the crazy cult and that ahole Pelle that led them there and had the hots for her.
The first like 20 mins are pretty good when the title card comes up and the music that plays during that is great i thought. It does drag tho but i feel like what saves the slowness of the movie is the way its shot. Every shot is dope.the ending is pretty wild lol
That Austin Powers joke wasn't pointless. The cult members mentioned that pop culture reference right? The cult is trying to relate to us the viewer to blind us. In reality these people don't live in modern times at all (the reference was waaaay outdated too assuming it was modern times). It's just another subconscious brainwashing tactic. The joke is meant to throw you off, and make you feel sort of like oh these people are not that bad. I'm not scared of this dork he just made a dad joke kind of thing. The whole movie was about multiple things. A break up, the different ways people cope during grief, brainwashing, and about how clueless some are to the dangers that are right in their faces. I think that's why I love it so much. Spoilers: Think about what happens during a breakup one person could have support from the homies the other person can be left secluded. In this case Dani had the support of the cult, and she decided in her grief to completely throw his ass away hahaha. The whole movie was disguised so beautiful so your not scared. The audience is not supposed to be scared. It's a big fucking trick to the character, and us as movie watchers. The underline dread, and their true intentions is what makes this movie scary. The ending of her completely breaking (her smile) is sad cause we just saw her accept her fate and let go. She doesn't know she's brainwashed though she just knows she doesn't have any burdens cause these folks "supported" her during her hardest times. Wild shit.
I definitely didn't think it dragged or was too slow. I spent the entire time intrigued and was mostly just trying to figure out what the fuck was going on and what it was all about to lead to. I was actually surprised that it was as long as it was. It was also a gorgeous movie so I might've missed any parts that dragged since I was just enjoying the cinematography.
I just now saw this. I enjoy these kinds of movies and I thought it was pretty good. I noticed a lot of people say it drags but I'm one that enjoys the build-up as much as the pay off.
Midsommar is all about eating Sill, drinking hard liquor, dancing around a midsummer pole, making sounds that frogs do around said pole, and of course flying the Swedish flag high.
Blood eagle is the name of the torture tactics that they used were they cut your back open and break the ribs and spread them outward then remove the lungs and place them on the shoulders of the victim to reassemble an eagle
The House of the Devil. The Babadook. The Witch. Raw. Hereditary. And now, Midsommar. The 2010’s is the age of slow burn, art-house horror. But non of which will ever top Takashi Miike’s ultimate slow-burner, Audition!
I love Miike, and have pretty thoroughly enjoyed all his movies (that I've seen) with one exception. Visitor Q. That movie just really tested my acceptance of weird shit and it broke me several times. I've re-watched several of his films, but I will never watch that again. Audition is indeed fantastic though. It's not as much of a slow burn and not strictly horror (although it's plenty horrifying), but "I Saw the Devil" is hands down my favorite horror film of the 2010's.
Pulling someones lungs out is called "rista blodsörn" or carving blood-eagle. The part where the elders killed themselves is probably inspired by the "ättestupa" or family fall/drop (?). Both traditions are mythical though.
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I saw this with my younger brother and my best friend. The friend and I had seen Hereditary and absolutely loved it, so we we're excited for this one. My brother hasn't seen Hereditary, and he went into Midsommar totally blind. With what said, while we all liked it, I think my brother liked it the most. Again, mainly because he hasn't see Hereditary, which I think is a better movie. But I'd give it a solid 3.5-4/5.
This film was originally given an NC-17 by the MPAA. According to Ari Aster, around 30 minutes was cut from the final film mainly due to content. The director's cut released shortly after its theatrical run restores this footage. Most of the Swedish dialogue spoken by the Hårga natives is deliberately not subtitled, in order to create the sense of isolation for the audience and especially for the foreign visitors. When the film was released in Sweden, rather than eliciting fear in the audience, many people laughed. Many Swedish critics praised the film as an excellent black comedy. Mark displays an extreme phobia of ticks, which is based on Ari Aster's real-life fear of bugs and illness. Like Mark, Aster wore two pairs of socks over his jeans to ensure he would not receive bug bites. Despite the Swedish setting, the film was mostly shot in Hungary. Dani's surname is Ardor (visible on the computer screen in several shots), Latin for "flame." Despite sharing the same title and being horror movies set in Sweden, this film and the Danish cult classic "Midsommer (2003)" are not related. Despite the film taking place entirely in sunlight, it does not contain one shot of the sun. The film's trailer contained one shot of the sun. A shot of the sun has been reinserted in the director's cut of the film. Ariana Grande is a fan of the film, calling it one of her favorite films of 2019. She tried (and failed) to buy the May Queen Gown used in the film at an auction. She also threw a Midsommar-themed birthday party for herself on her 27th birthday. Klaudia Csányi's debut. Despite being the main characters and with the exception of cries and screams, neither Dani nor Christian speak in the last twenty-five minutes. During the meal where meat pies are served, Christian has a glass of reddish juice while everyone else has yellow juice. An image earlier in the film suggests that this may be because his drink has been spiked with menstrual blood. The strange mating ritual in the movie has very little to do with actual midsummer celebration in Sweden. It is however a fact that the 9 out of the 10 most common birthday dates in Sweden are all during April. 9 months after midsummer and July, the most popular month for summer vacations, that is. This is the fifth A24 film to be released nationwide without a platform release prior. The others were The Witch (2016), Free Fire (2017), It Comes At Night (2017), and Hereditary (2018). Much to the chagrin of Swedish horror fans, the film was not released during midsummer in Sweden, but a few weeks afterwards.
My gripe with this film is that the characters are all idiots. "What happened to Simon?" "Oh he went with one of our guys without his gf to the train station to go home." "Seems legit" "Hey what happened to Josh and Mark?" "Oh he was with that one girl so they're probably still chilling together." "Seems legit" If I remember correctly a couple days pass with their friends missing and they never question it.
For the record, the “slow-to-excessive” pattern that Ari achieves is NOT present in Hereditary (cerca Charlie’s decapitation and the dreadful pursuit left over from that).
I don’t want to sound pretentious because I already got into an argument about this film so please read this with a non-hostile tone lol. The whole movie is a giant metaphor for a shitty, toxic relationship. The commune and characters are just a backdrop for the themes that are being relayed. Dani and Christian know that their relationship isn’t working but they keep trying regardless of the consequences. The writing is (literally) on the wall, plain for all to see... yet they deny the obvious truth and continue to stay in their comfort zone out of fear of change (neither of them made a real effort to leave the commune). It takes Dani literally seeing her boyfriend cheating on her to decide to let go of the relationship and move on. There are other themes of denial, grief and cycles but I don’t want to get too long winded here. Just know that this movie isn’t really necessarily a horror, but more so an unnerving and uncomfortable way of portraying a breakup story.
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If you look from left to right... it's like he's aging.
And bleaching
I read your comment and then started moving my eyes left to right rapidly. I then realized what you meant lol
Gold 🤣🤣😂
Lololol
*Yup!*
Petition for joe to wear that blouse in every video till 2020..
Some pretty aggressive comments here.
Walt Disney would NEVER say that🤭😄
All immaturity aside, that shirt is clean!
That escalated quickly.
@@jamesmiddleton5955 fuck off
A24 loves their old naked people in general.
Who doesn't?
I don't think the Austin powers thing was a joke. More like something widely known to show how the cult are not completely out of touch and help fool the characters into a comforting environment. Also shows how disturbing the cult members are by actually liking something as popular and completely contrasting to their life style
as a film like Austin Powers.
Snake?!?!?
Swedish penis pump
Basz 😂😂
Well during midsummer in finland we drink lots of alcohol and what happens... happens...
Kyllä näin on perkele
@@jalmarinousiainen1852 Shut the fuck up
So basically like everywhere in the world where alcohol is involved?
@@Curseco who hurt you?
@@huldu basically yes
Joe - The noise and movement you see and hear after Josh takes a hammer to the head are the agonal breathing of a dying person and muscle spasms as a result of traumatic brain injury.
Midsommar is about drinking, complain about the weather, then drink some more. We also dance around a big pole, drunkenly. Then we sacrifice a virgin to Odin and drink her blood. Nothing special really.
ja jag vill leva jag vill dööööööö i nooorden
This makes me proud of my country!
Your typical Saturday night in Leicester then?
You had me at drinking.
what was that last part?
Finally! Someone made a horror movie based around a pagan holiday where we all dance around a giant phallus, quacking like frogs. Shit's messed up.
Joakim Ängehult håller helt med hoppas dem sjunger små grodorna
Theres The Wicker Man,maybe?
Frogs quack?
Are u okay? Frogs don’t quack they bark
Frogs quack when the water turns them gay.
you know the actual midsummers fest is very chill. No drugs, no rituals just a lot of food, alcohol, singing and dancing.
@population-_-420lol
This is just hollywood showing us what they do in their free time. . .
@Cult Mechanicus lmao username checks out
@Cult Mechanicus, good for you. The amount of flippancy and downright dismissal of evil in contemporary society can make you feel alienated when you perceive it. But, it's most assuredly *there* , and it's most assuredly *real* . The truly insane are those who have such perceptions but forcibly tip their fedoras and try to pretend as if Christianity is just another bednight story.
@Cult Mechanicusyou do realize that Christian cults exist right if?
Hahahaha 🤣
@@flyingphoenix113it’s so precious when adults convince themselves there’s a battle for good and evil. Sounds like a bedtime story.
FYI:
1. The character wearing Mark's (Will Poulter's) skin was Ulf - the guy who was angered by him taking a leak on the tree over the deceased relatives.
2. Simon's body was suspended via the torture technique called Blood Eagle.
rhythmoriented blood angel, he was still alive while suspended which is why u saw the “wings” moving
@@micaelpuentes5757 *Eagle
it could have been Christian visualizing them moving since he was still tripping.
Oh shit, I thought it was just Mark with a messed up face
I thought it was the deformed kid with his face
A great summer movie to take the kids and grandparents to! Fun for the whole family! 🤣
Rated G
Took my mom to see it. There were four other elderly people in the theater. All four walked out before the end of the movie. My mom fell asleep and hated it. I fucking loved it.
The awkward thing is that I went to an early day showing and there was only an elderly couple and me, lol never wanted for a nude scene to end so quickly like that time.
there was a 10 year old kid in the theater with his dad when i saw it
Lmao. The kids will rave about it at school! 😆
I'd rather see an original creative film with a voice that I feel mixed about than formulaic drivel.
True!!!
This so much. This is definitely a divisive film but I absolutely loved it. I think a film can be either ok for everyone, or perfect for someone. And I prefer the latter.
this isn't original though. It's a large copy of the wickerman and another movie of the same name lol.
Power Forth - What you said couldn’t be further from the truth and misses the point we’re discussing. I’m confused. Did you see the films you mentioned? If you saw Midsommar, the original Wicker Man and the so inexplicably awful it’s good remake, you’d know that not only are they very different films but, within the context of my original message, expressed completely differently.
Rob Vespa Expressed differently, yes. Very different in premise and imagery? I don’t know...how is the basic premise so hugely different? Both have basic themes of paganism, cults, villagers, outsiders, and unsettling atmosphere. It’s not to say they aren’t different stories but the similarities are there. Plenty of movies have these tropes. It’s not a bad thing.
I feel like Ari Asters movies either get to you or they don’t. They get to me. Holy shit they leave me shook lol
Clay Hopkins Yup. They either get in your head or they don’t lol. This and heredity both shook me too. This movie left me feeling nauseous and I’m not sure why
34:20 Wrong. The ways they are sacrificed aren't random.
Ancient European sacrifices were often based on the Four Elements, obviously Ari Aster knows that and applied it to his film:
- Simon, blood eagled and suspended in the company of birds: Air.
- Connie, drowned: Water.
- Christian, burned alive: Fire.
- And Josh, buried: Earth (I guess they buried him with one leg sticking out to symbolise a sprouting plant).
What about Mark?
@@WarThug13poor mark he was the best character in the movie. He deserves better
came here to say i love the thumbnail.
It was a movie I enjoyed but never want to watch it again.
That describes Hereditary as well
@@alexsilva28 I never seen it. Have you seen The Strange thing about the Johnsons?
@@EdertheJust Nope. Never heard of it
@@alexsilva28 it's by the same director. Its nuts...its on TH-cam for free. About 30 minutes long.
CA2VA dude that short is so fucked up Ari Aster is great with creating disturbing stories
“Post-Nut Clarity” Alex-2019
I just watched a video the other day where they talk about this. I didn't know that some think of this as a real medical condition. I'm laughing myself to death just thinking about implications of this.
oh man that killed me. didnt hear that one in a while
Ibrahim Robinson lol, I remember joe Rogan talked about it once or twice
Bro that’s the first thing I thought. Haha.
@@ibrahimrobinson8508
It’s definitely a real thing. You must have experienced this?
They did a good job replicating a mushroom trip in this movie with the wavy trees and moving/flowing pattern on the trunk. Also when they get there the background moving with the outline of the house.
Something i love is that the movie ends on day 4 of the festival, which is 9 days long. Wtf happends on days 5-9?!
Ooooh. One of the things the movie did well was that I lost track of which day it was, which I feel was intentional. Fucking bizarre movie
Lots of banging to repopulate the cult...I was surprised they didn’t take the Midsommer Queen into a room and bang her but perhaps they about to when she departed from their request to see what was going on with her BF.
Massive multi-day orgy
It will surely invole more sex rituals, including Dani to get her pregnant. Probably from Pelle.
Wow, it seems that I'm one of the few people that didn't find the film THAT slow, especially because of the inner hell the protagonist was living.
People who found it slow may identify with Christian a little more than with Dani.
This movie did a great job simulating mushroom trips and the types of visual effects it has. some movies just show everything being trippy and crazy and weird but it's not realistic. the accuracy and subtlety was spot-on especially with the slight warping of things all throughout different shots. I think it really helps someone understand how things could go the way they did narratively. you don't have to have tripped on mushrooms to understand or appreciate the film, but, if you have, it really adds a lot.
Watching this on acid is crazy
Not to be "that guy" but you guys didn't get the sacrifice portion. They didn't have to die, they all broke some sacred ruling except Christian. He was chosen by Dani, between him and the lottery winner. The British couple, however, were brought specifically to be sacrificed. That's why the guy that brought them was sacrificed as well. 4/9 sacrifices were their own. Could have been 5/9 had Dani chosen differently, but that choice represents her choosing the new "family"
Wait so everyone did not have to die they broke some sacred ruling? Except the British couple? Didn't Pelle have to bring the British couple? He didn't have to die. The British couple broke no sacred ruling. The obnoxious dude broke the rule of pissing on the sacred tree but knew no better. He should have been excused. Unless his obnoxious behaviour broke some rule. The black dude was exploiting the cult for his story but so was Christian and he would have been allowed to live had Dani chosen. But they chose him to impregant some cult member anyway. How did they know the black guy was going to try to photograph the book? They showed up to kill him with a mallet wearing his dead friends face then his dead body was raped before he was dragged off. They too much anticipated this. Not only did they kill the British couple but one was still breathing with his lungs halfway removed through blood eagle. Why torture him? I am pretty sure the intent of Pelle and the deal he made with the cult from the beginning was to give Dani the energy drink so she could win the May Pole dancing contest(in June of all things) and make Christian impregnant the girl so she would get jealous and chose him to die. There was no way Dani would be harmed because Pelle was in love with her or something. From the beginning it was so obvious everyone but Dani was going to die. From the moment they were all sitting in the dorm room smoking weed and planning the trip and Pelle looked in Dani's eyes starstruck and invited them all to the festival it was so obvious Dani was going to be the only one who lived. Sure you didn't know she would be crowned May Queen and chose the last death but still.... It was so obvious. This is the only thing I did not like about this movie. The movie was brilliant no scene of acting was overdone the cinematography was brilliant, the pace was brilliant it was slow and progressed evenly like a Hitchock film it wasn't full of cheesy bullshit FX like the driving beheading in Hereditary which was when I changed the channel. What it lacked was an authentic ending which revealed hard to predict facts and character development. The characters were so uninteresting. No background, no development, nothing that made you get attached to them. It was more like the character development was all based on the cult and the environment. Yet still you never felt too attached to any one character. Not even Dani. Even if she had died I would not have felt bad. I would not have cared if this had been a 3 hour movie and much longer if they had just fixed a few things and put a more interesting ending and less corny Valhalla Nordic cult mythology and something suspensful to be like "I did not see that coming." Like what if the cult had been completely non violent and Dani had done all the killings because she flipped because her parents were murdered and it was revealed at the end. Or something. Something besides that garbage totally predictable all the friends die except the main character ending. This could have been one of the most brilliant movies ever made. The slow pacing day time horror scenario. The notion presented something was wrong with the cult no matter how polite and how many drugs and food they gave everyone. They even said they were going to watch Austin Powers. Remember in Austin Powers when Scott was like "you are feeding them? Cmon, I have a gun in my room. I go grab it. We blow their brains out. Boom done." Ironic huh? I mean they should have filmed them watching it and showing that scene. It would have made the movie brilliantly ironic. I would have liked any ending except the main character lives while all the friends die ending. Otherwise it was an awesome realistically disturbing film about how horrific a day time super polite and outgoing hippy type group of people could be. It could have been worst also I get that. I mean at least there was some non expected twist to the story but still....... It just detracts from the realism to have a one way scenario, a one dimensional predictable ending even if the path to the ending was non predictable and scary. Like I said it could have been worst. It just also could have been much better.
Still mad no sense
No, it was all planned. Pelle chose them all because he knew they would have the reactions they did, up to and including Dani.
Dani is likely going to be the final sacrifice.
I think they were all gonna be killed anyways, regardless if they had broke any rules or not lol!
I heard this is the last Horror genre from Aster for a while. His words.
Good....bye
Just to let you know, Midsummer (or Midsommar) is a Swedish holiday and it takes place in the middle of summer (21st of June) and sometimes, we have this pole in the backyard which we dance around.
Glad Midsommar, för en slumpmässig svensk person. PS: Jag vet att det är juli
And eat Sill, glöm fan inte det! *Skäms*
Oh ok. Did you like the movie and where the words and dance somewhat accurate?
@@roflc0re ALDRIG!!!
@@abdulclutch4509 It haven't come out yet here in Sweden
Oskand Hoppas dem dansar till små grodorna medans dem framkallar satan
Loved this film. I feel the characters are intended to be realistically unlikable. Then by the end, the audience struggles with how they feel. Do the characters deserve this? Do we?
Great point.
Dani didn't deserve any of it. She is gaslit, manipulated, lied to and generally treated like shit throughout the movie, to the point that at the end it woul've been more merciful to sacrifice her as well. This movie made me really dislike Christian, but I loathe the Harga even more.
@@DrGregoryHouseIT Logically, you may be correct. But i didn't feel that way. She's portrayed as unlikeable, clingy, and weak - perhaps unfairly - but to an extent that i "felt" (not thought) that her concluding role as summer queen... a kind of unwitting accomplice (she did select her boyfriend)... was a perfect way to empower her and punish her simultaneously.
Good point. The characters were unlikeable but not overtly. Like the girl was annoying and clingy . The boyfriend was a jerk who didnt really care about her , the one friend was ignorant and just wanted to get laid. but youre right, by the end I felt bad for them.
@@DrGregoryHouseIT Yes Dani is manipulated, but not treated like shit, on the contrary, they seduce her into the cult. They had her win the May Queen contest and bless their crops to make her feel proud and needed.
U and Charlie from the moist meter are like the exact opposites when it comes to movie preference
Fr I'm always thinking that. I can't tell if Joe is a normie or Charlie is just cynical
@@mastershadowreaper I think it's a lil bit of both
@DroughtMouth That’s about right - Joe is a normie reviewer and Charlie is cynical
@@mastershadowreaper Joe leans very much on the Normie side...
Yep. Went from Moist Meter to this and theyre completely opposite. I remember about 2 or 3 movies where they also have conflicting reviews.
This is definitely a movie I want to see Redlettermedia review.
Jay would like the Cinematography and the slow pace and weird shits... and Mike would say he is bored
i call it
@@usoap141 totally see it
I cant wait!
Im gonna be honest guys it really dropped the ball its just 3 hours of unexplained weird shit and all of the characters are really annoying especially the main girl i cannot reccommed tgis movie but tell me wat you think if you decide to see it me and my gf didnt like it too much
Dont
When dude pulled pubic hair out of his pie and was drinking period blood, I lost it
Mason Patterson THAT WAS PERIOD BLOOD????? Oh fuck that’s nasty
@@connorsmith6517 And he keeps eating and drinking it after that...
@@TurboThunderGaming I don't think he knew he was drinking. Blood also I think he just chalked the hair up to them not wearing hair nets when cooking. I think it all clicked for him when that lady suggested that he impregnate that girl.
I watched this movie a few days ago and I still can’t stop thinking about it.
Because of how laughably bad it is?
@@alfiedemmon4132 maybe your brain is to small to comprehend what happened in the movie
@@nashscheber2696 You are funny. You accuse me of having a small brain yet you cannot capitalise the beginning of a sentence, use the wrong 'to' and fail to add punctuation at the end of a sentence. But I would like to understand what you liked about the movie so much. Enlighten me.
@@alfiedemmon4132 sorry professor didn't know I was being tested on TH-cam. I'll say it again, TH-cam! Get a life dude
@@nashscheber2696 It was you who got riled up by my interjection and then insulted my intelligence. Thank you for clarifying what website we are arguing on too, just in case I had forgotten.
Hereditary is a horror masterpiece. If OJ and Alex felt like it "meandered" and like much didn't happen, they need to watch it again, because there is stuff going on from the first scene, to the horrifying finale.
that movie had me shook lol
BROS. GALS. All I have to say is - WATCH HEREDITARY. That movie is MESSED. UP.
Is it coming to netfilx anytime soon?
Oh yeah! - one of those movies that stayed in my mind for longer than i was comfortable with...but thats what a good horrormovie does..
It's also shitty.
Its really depressing, I wouldn't call it scary but disturbing and eerie at times. You should check out Rob Ager's analysis.
@@steviegilliam5685 It's on Amazon Prime. Or, it was when I watched it about 4 months ago
I've never seen a video where Alex actually enjoyed a movie.
He gave it a 7 tho and said it was a good movie wut
@@aity846 So he enjoyed it. That's what the comment is saying.
Lamest excuse possible: "You just didn't get it". I acknowledge that it's a dumb excuse
I mean not really, if you didnt get it you couldnt possibly enjoy the move the way its supposed to be
If you don't understand what movie is trying to tell you then yeah "You just didn't get it". Which is fine, not everyone gets things.
@@ergoth154 ...or the film just didn't a good job explaining to the audience , can go both ways.
@@ergoth154 Or you did get it but the movie is still shit.
sometimes you don't get it has legs to stand on but it should never be the go to defense for anything, it should come with a long list of other defenses....
if you use a defense like that and just that you're a fool lol
if you have a point and you can at least toss 2 other things as well then I might listen to the defense....
like my defense of real Star trek and attack on STD is it's poor writing, poor acting, too much action, no diplomacy, breaks canon and the morons who run it don't get Star Trek...there
This movie was not meant for mainstream audiences that is pretty clear. Mainstream audiences only want what is familiar.
I hate people who think they kno what a large group of people want guess what yu don't
@@zaysavage5393 It's pretty obvious by how much of a slow burn this movie is, that it's not for mainstream casual audiences. The people who make Transformers billions of dollars aren't going to see Midsommar
KotorFan3231 good point. I don’t think it is intended for mainstream audiences who seem to crave easy, cheap scares in their horror movies.
you're not special. That's an incredibly naive viewpoint.
@@zaysavage5393 no I'm just stating a matter of fact. Mainstream audiences didn't like movies such as It Comes at Night, The Witch, and Spring Breakers. Those were all unconventional films that didn't follow what audiences are used to. Also box office numbers speak for themselves and those movies were not financial hits but transformers 1-4, almost any blumhouse horror film, the conjuring movies, all those made rediciulous amounts of money because they pandered to the largest demographic possible.
I think what you're thinking of is the "Blood Eagle" and the vikings actually did not do these. It is a literary device in Norse culture but there are no accounts of the ritual being practiced.
Edit: Love that Stuff we forgot section. My only suggestion is to make the arrow that comes down fall off screen. It would imply you forgot to attach it to the top of the screen.
I mean the guy did piss on the tree. He had it coming.
No, that was Mark, who got skinned since Josh’s killer wore his face. Simon was the one that died via blood eagle.
I loved this movie. It was so fucked up and different. I love Ari's work. He gives you an experience you'll never forget
He's definitely on my must watch list even if I feel conflicted about his films.
I love ari aster's horror movies
well I really enjoyed slow-pace, audio, perfectly depicted tripping effects, the great camerawork of course, but the last 20 minutes were simply over-the-top, it was a total contrast to what we have seen for 1,5 hour, i wouldn't mind if it was slow-paced with people gradually disappearing until the end, but i feel they went for a cheap attempt to do something to shock the audience and make them very uncomfortable. I just hoped this will be kinda movie show less to show more, but trailer was kinda misleading.
He makes really disturbing films.
I was just thinking, Wickerman
lol
That one was meant to be a portrayal of Celtic (Irish) Paganism. Midsommar is about Swedish Paganism... or at least Ari Aster’s version of Swedish Paganism. I am not sure if this is an authentic portrayal.
With out the cage😉
@Mr. Moogle hi
Killing me won't bring back your Goddamn honey!
This movie was such a build up movie and that ending was just so disturbing
It was a good horror film overall
So it’s a “boring till the end” type movie
Inspirado Rupees that’s like your opinion man
@@inspiradorupees3029 stfu
Yes its very boring and even the ending dorsnt make any sense this was really aggravating its nowhere near on the level of hereditary build up
It’s not horror. It’s a thriller in my book. Not disturbing at all. Maybe my mind is wasted from seeing a lot of gore and shit but it definitely was nothing like what hereditary brought to the table.
I went to see this movie simply so I could watch your review. That's how much I love these reviews.
Alex: "I really didn't appreciate what they did with Midsommar. It was just like the comics."
Comics??
I love slow suspenseful horror like this. I loved the cinematography. The tripping effects were so spot on.
Hereditary is one of my all time favorites! cant wait to catch this one
Newera_ I have the same sentiment about Hereditary . I hate that people think that a slow burn is synonymous with boring. I am excited to watch this film. Will be watching it on July 4th.
I was very hyped to see hereditary... I found myself checking my phone I was so bored and then the ending was bad so yeah movie sucked imo
@@dogsbreakfast4952 Chuckie might be more up your alley. My friend couldn't understand Hereditary but he loved Chuckie. And he also didn't get wtf was goin on in Bird Box either.
Hereditary was the worst movie I saw that year it came out and I had movie pass watching everything that came out basically. It was so boring and stupid, that whole act where the girl eats cake at party then gets hit by a pole??? So fucking dum no one can every explain how this movie good ,ever
Joseph Hernandez I don’t really want to get all “high school English teacher” on you but that whole “act” isn’t necessarily supposed to be taken at face value. In fact, the way in which the younger sister dies is only important in that the blame is put on the brother. This sets up the rest of the act of how grief affects a family and how each individual deals with said grief. I think that if you go into an ari aster movie looking for plot holes you’ll find them in droves and have a very bad experience but instead if you search more for the message that is being conveyed and the masterful way that message is articulated, it can be a great one.
the lung kill in the film is called the blood eagle it was a viking execution where they would cut open your back remove your ribs from your spin then they take you lungs from your back and place them over your shoulders to look like the folded wings of a great eagle.
this guys feel how I felt...I didn't hate it, I didn't love it, at times I was bored but I also appreciate the entire film...I'm left confounded in a sense haha
I honestly through this was a remake of the 2003 Midsommar.
And in many ways, it's actually is a remake of that movie lol.
I don't see how it takes awhile to get going? 30 minutes in the elders are jumping off a cliff
Right? And 5 minutes in there's a murder suicide
lol these guys are stupid. you are engaged very early in this film, it doesn't keep the shocks till the end like they say. you are already like wtf in 30 mins.
made by A24..is that right? hereditary was top notch horror....i will definitely see midsommar..
Same director
ah yes....that sounds very promising...i had to stop watching when the spoiler section started, ..unfortunately
@@michaelaldan6969 it's a gross film
well, let's see...im sure it's not that bad
A24 doesn't make these films, they distribute it. They certainly got a good eye for which movies to pick though.
I don't think those were the 2 suicidal elders placed in the lodge at the end. Weren't they cremated and added to the elder tree?🤔🤔
It's the other couple from Europe I believe
True
They had the heads of the elder couple in the yellow building at the end, along with the two friends and the couple, and the two sacrifices, along with her bf. So 9 people. They needed 9.
They were apparently turned into ash statues and placed in the altar with the other victims.
Favorite movie of the year for me. The themes are what really make this movie.
SPOILERS: I would say I think Hereditary is ever so slighlty better. Both movies showcase dread, guilt and depression really well, but Hereditary's just works slightly better. Midsommar perfected other aspects and was thematically more interesting. The first 20 minutes is perfect for setting up the dread this movie shows. The opening art piece resembles the overall tone this movie shows through its dread and depression. The wintery scene we are shown was also great contrast for the movies tone. All of the art pieces actually tell a story very similar to the films and in same ways forebodes a lot of what is going to happen. Florence Pugh was phenemonal and this movie was very much her descent into insanity after her families death, she ultimately accepts the cult as her family which can be seen in the final shot. The oracle serves great purpose because the cult believes the mentally disabled think in ways we cant and are ultimately unique and special. I felt like all if these characters felt real and there communications felt more down to earth. Pelle's character also forebodes a lot of the stories plot. I watched this movie as Dani's character slowly becoming more broken throughout and i loved it. 10/10
AshenOne61 6 she was becoming more broken for us, and yet she was healing. And at the end she finally healed and smiled. Cause she killed her burden.
AshenOne61 6
Are you okay ?
This movie was very slow boring and funny at the same time.
The acting was awful.
This is my oppinion I respect yours but please explain to me what was great about this movie.
For me it was the worst cinema experience ever.
@@YanaPetruk At the end she's broken for good, the actress herself said that Dani's completely out of it at the end.
@@gergoonodi2761 Brilliand and stunning cinematograpfy, AMAZING ACTING,AMAZING ACTING,AMAZING ACTING. Great plot, sacrifications, nudity, beautiful & creepy message at the end. I think ur not ok
this movie is fucking trashhh gtfoo hereeee
I walked out of this thinking there was no hidden meaning. Just some friends that tag along to a trip to sweden, walk into a cultural horror show and get mixed in. A lot of easter eggs and nods to the Swedish/Scandinavian culture and thinking back, there was a lot of foreshadowing, but I think it was just one of those "along for the ride" type films. It did have me go "what the fuck" soooooo many times though.
You guys talk about the length and the pacing a lot. This movie is meant to be an experience that puts you in with the characters in their situation. It's about the mood and the feeling, the journey more than the destination. It was paced for the people who want to go all in and immerse themselves in this very bright dark world. If it's not a ride you want to go on, a 90 minute running time really wouldn't change your opinion of the film. I think it was actually perfectly paced, so we could feel the "frogs being slowly boiled' experience the characters go through. The story doesn't rely on twists, turns and action. It's a psychological experience much like a real acid or mushroom trip. A lot of people don't see the connection of the opening to the rest of the film. The purpose of the opening was to give background on Dani's emotional state and how her losses and lack of connection to her world would make her susceptible to the influence of the cultists. The 3 men and Dani are actually in a very different type of film from each other. The men are in a folk horror film and Dani is actually in a fairy tale story.
I definitely wouldn’t recommend the film to very many people but I liked it and Hereditary. It’s definitely my kind of horror.
I disagree that it waited till the end to go nuts. I think it did pepper several moments throughout starting from the beginning but I won’t name them. And there was a scene for sure that made me and a buddy jump similar to a scene from Hereditary but I wouldn’t label it a jump scare. It didn’t rely on music at all. Cultish films have always been interesting to me. This one made me think of the old 70s movie The Wicker Man.
Based on your reaction Joe, I feel like you would really appreciate a korean film called The Wailing from 2016. You guys should check it out if you haven't already :D (it's a psychological horror - best to go in blind)
Such a good film
Been wanting to watch it for sometime but i can't sleep alone at night after watching horrors, is it THAT fucked up?
"Små grodorna, små grodorna
är lustiga att se!"
Same
Ej öron ej öron...
ej svansar hava de.
Ej svansar havar de..
La tuya, por si la duda
They know about Austin Powers because the elders were perusing a laptop while the fresh sacrifices were taking Psyliosibins at the beginning of the movie. It's a quick cut you might miss it.
Theres a scene where pewdiepie shows up in the film.
He shows up in the post credits playing Minecraft
I just watched Hereditary for the first time, and both my boyfriend and I absolutely loved it. We both agreed how we felt a building sense of dread during the entire movie, and I thought they did sprinkle in some subtle things throughout to maintain interest and suspense. That movie stuck with me.. After loving Hereditary so much, we decided to give Midsommar a shot. Other than the cinematography, I thought this movie was horribly slow and boring. I didn't care about any of the characters, and honestly I wasnt a fan of the acting either. The "plot" was meandering and abysmal. An hour and 20 minutes into it, I kept checking the time and seeing how much of the movie was left. I came so close to turning it off but I wanted to find out what the hell was going on, and I was hoping it might surprise me and get better... it didnt. The "pay off" was not worth it. I definitely did not feel the same sense of dread and suspense that I did with Hereditary. I can appreciate slow burns, but the pacing in Midsommar was glacial with not enough happening to really keep you hooked.
"Does not have a Hollywood ending." Joe... That's a good thing. People need to be less dense (not speaking of Joe,) we need more films that strive to be art.
@dig duck very true, horror as a whole, but film as a whole too ;)
Midsommar? .... more like mid-size shirt for alex
is everyone forgetting about The Witch?
I don't dislike slow burns. I loved Hereditary if this movie is anything like that I'm sure its fantastic.
It felt like he was trying to see how many weird things he could stuff into the run time. Not caring if we were still invested.
100% disagree but respect your opinion.
Marley Kubitz not a terrible movie though. Wish it was more focused and satisfying and shorter lol
Deri C yea it kinda felt like some of the weird parts were kind of too much for no reason
BJH 2112 agreed. This film was creative and stunning to look at. But I left feeling unsatisfied and I kept checking my clock lol
Deri C yea after the two friends died, it seemed like the movie was nearing the end, but there was still another hour left
I absolutely loved this movie and hereditary is one of the best horror movies in quite awhile. The movie is supposed to be weirdly confusing and scare you with anxiety. In hereditary the scariest part is when the mother is yelling at the son downstairs and the camera flashed back and fourth and creates panic in you in a way I’ve never seen, its a lot scarier than any jump scare.
I like this film I will never watch it again most audiences will hate this but I still recommend you see it. It’s a unique vision on a budget we rarely see anymore. Also to comment on a point made in the video this divided critics last I checked it was sitting in the low 70% range.
This was such an amazing movie i absolutely loved it.
Skåååål..............cheers from Sweden!
The viking execution method you talked about was called a "blodørn" which translate to "blood eagle".
The execution ritual is only mentioned in the sagas from 1100-1300 . In the sagas the king of East Anglia Ælla was executed this way by Regnar Lodborg's son Ivar Benløs (Ivar Boneless) as revenge for his father's death by snakes.
In the technical execution of the ritual the executer would cut loose the rips from the spine with an axe thereby create slits on both sides of the spine. Through those slits you would pull out each lung and placed on the shoulders of the executed as an eagle spreading it's wings. Normally the victim would live on for a few minutes afterwards but we are not certain how long it really was. It was considered a very humiliating execution method,.
They didn't rele plan to kill kill her bf. They gave her a choice of individuals, including her bf, to be the last sacrifice needed. Dani chose him 🤷🏽♀️ and that was a culminated decision based off of events in the movie and her analysis of their relationship which was brought up to her by the cult friend.
With her wicked smile at the end, I believe the dark one inhabited her...
They gave her a choice. My guess is they got him to cheat on her to give her reason to choose him even though in my opinion it wasn't his fault. He was a bit of a ahole but didn't deserve to die like all the others They drugged him and messed with his mind. She was also drugged and messed up so I don't really blame her actions either. Blame the crazy cult and that ahole Pelle that led them there and had the hots for her.
that post-nut clarity is a real thing lol.
The first like 20 mins are pretty good when the title card comes up and the music that plays during that is great i thought. It does drag tho but i feel like what saves the slowness of the movie is the way its shot. Every shot is dope.the ending is pretty wild lol
Good discussion. OJ is really starting to find his voice in these. Love it!
As a swede. When I saw Angry Joe and Midsommar... What The.
You guys made me confident in enjoying this one when I see it, thanks!
I think joe is wearing a Mormon temple garment...
In Sweden we dance like frogs around a pole supposed to be a huge phallos at Midsommar. Also, alcohol.
Weird
That Austin Powers joke wasn't pointless. The cult members mentioned that pop culture reference right? The cult is trying to relate to us the viewer to blind us. In reality these people don't live in modern times at all (the reference was waaaay outdated too assuming it was modern times). It's just another subconscious brainwashing tactic. The joke is meant to throw you off, and make you feel sort of like oh these people are not that bad. I'm not scared of this dork he just made a dad joke kind of thing. The whole movie was about multiple things. A break up, the different ways people cope during grief, brainwashing, and about how clueless some are to the dangers that are right in their faces. I think that's why I love it so much.
Spoilers:
Think about what happens during a breakup one person could have support from the homies the other person can be left secluded. In this case Dani had the support of the cult, and she decided in her grief to completely throw his ass away hahaha. The whole movie was disguised so beautiful so your not scared. The audience is not supposed to be scared. It's a big fucking trick to the character, and us as movie watchers. The underline dread, and their true intentions is what makes this movie scary. The ending of her completely breaking (her smile) is sad cause we just saw her accept her fate and let go. She doesn't know she's brainwashed though she just knows she doesn't have any burdens cause these folks "supported" her during her hardest times. Wild shit.
The "Stuff We Forgot" section made me laugh.
I definitely didn't think it dragged or was too slow. I spent the entire time intrigued and was mostly just trying to figure out what the fuck was going on and what it was all about to lead to. I was actually surprised that it was as long as it was. It was also a gorgeous movie so I might've missed any parts that dragged since I was just enjoying the cinematography.
I just now saw this. I enjoy these kinds of movies and I thought it was pretty good. I noticed a lot of people say it drags but I'm one that enjoys the build-up as much as the pay off.
Midsommar is all about eating Sill, drinking hard liquor, dancing around a midsummer pole, making sounds that frogs do around said pole, and of course flying the Swedish flag high.
Spoilers start at 15:55
Plot development
Everything that happens has a meaning and builds this world around you
The tall guy trys to hard to be simon 🤦🏻♂️
Hereditary has Easter eggs that actually tie these two movies together
If this ritual happend every 90 years...how did his parents die in that same ritual of fire?
They didn't. He was orphaned by a house fire and found his way to Harga.
Blood eagle is the name of the torture tactics that they used were they cut your back open and break the ribs and spread them outward then remove the lungs and place them on the shoulders of the victim to reassemble an eagle
So...basically wicker Man?
Not the bees!
Giggling Stoner 😂
The good one from1973
The House of the Devil. The Babadook. The Witch. Raw. Hereditary. And now, Midsommar. The 2010’s is the age of slow burn, art-house horror. But non of which will ever top Takashi Miike’s ultimate slow-burner, Audition!
I love Miike, and have pretty thoroughly enjoyed all his movies (that I've seen) with one exception. Visitor Q. That movie just really tested my acceptance of weird shit and it broke me several times. I've re-watched several of his films, but I will never watch that again. Audition is indeed fantastic though.
It's not as much of a slow burn and not strictly horror (although it's plenty horrifying), but "I Saw the Devil" is hands down my favorite horror film of the 2010's.
Sounds very similar to "The Wicker Man".
dreamlandnightmare it’s almost the exact same film. It distracted me how similar this film was to it
Pulling someones lungs out is called "rista blodsörn" or carving blood-eagle. The part where the elders killed themselves is probably inspired by the "ättestupa" or family fall/drop (?). Both traditions are mythical though.
The movie and especially the director’s cut is a masterpiece. I have never seen anything quite like it.
Summer is slow for gaming and the game reviews take weeks of preparation. There aren't major titles until September and in the meantime Delrith does Rapid Fires. There is also an AngryJoe Livestreams channel.
Please be patient with their team. It is about quality over quantity at AJS.
I saw this with my younger brother and my best friend. The friend and I had seen Hereditary and absolutely loved it, so we we're excited for this one. My brother hasn't seen Hereditary, and he went into Midsommar totally blind. With what said, while we all liked it, I think my brother liked it the most. Again, mainly because he hasn't see Hereditary, which I think is a better movie. But I'd give it a solid 3.5-4/5.
I liked this movie. Not as much as Hereditary. I loved hereditary. I found midsommar refreshing.
Can we make it official that angry joe has become a movie review channel?
It’s the summer lol gaming is slow, movies are not.
Yeah summer is terrible for gamers and game reviewers but great for movies. He will be back in form in a few months
Paulo Vitor shut the fuck up.
This film was originally given an NC-17 by the MPAA. According to Ari Aster, around 30 minutes was cut from the final film mainly due to content. The director's cut released shortly after its theatrical run restores this footage.
Most of the Swedish dialogue spoken by the Hårga natives is deliberately not subtitled, in order to create the sense of isolation for the audience and especially for the foreign visitors.
When the film was released in Sweden, rather than eliciting fear in the audience, many people laughed. Many Swedish critics praised the film as an excellent black comedy.
Mark displays an extreme phobia of ticks, which is based on Ari Aster's real-life fear of bugs and illness. Like Mark, Aster wore two pairs of socks over his jeans to ensure he would not receive bug bites.
Despite the Swedish setting, the film was mostly shot in Hungary.
Dani's surname is Ardor (visible on the computer screen in several shots), Latin for "flame."
Despite sharing the same title and being horror movies set in Sweden, this film and the Danish cult classic "Midsommer (2003)" are not related.
Despite the film taking place entirely in sunlight, it does not contain one shot of the sun. The film's trailer contained one shot of the sun. A shot of the sun has been reinserted in the director's cut of the film.
Ariana Grande is a fan of the film, calling it one of her favorite films of 2019. She tried (and failed) to buy the May Queen Gown used in the film at an auction. She also threw a Midsommar-themed birthday party for herself on her 27th birthday.
Klaudia Csányi's debut.
Despite being the main characters and with the exception of cries and screams, neither Dani nor Christian speak in the last twenty-five minutes.
During the meal where meat pies are served, Christian has a glass of reddish juice while everyone else has yellow juice. An image earlier in the film suggests that this may be because his drink has been spiked with menstrual blood.
The strange mating ritual in the movie has very little to do with actual midsummer celebration in Sweden. It is however a fact that the 9 out of the 10 most common birthday dates in Sweden are all during April. 9 months after midsummer and July, the most popular month for summer vacations, that is.
This is the fifth A24 film to be released nationwide without a platform release prior. The others were The Witch (2016), Free Fire (2017), It Comes At Night (2017), and Hereditary (2018).
Much to the chagrin of Swedish horror fans, the film was not released during midsummer in Sweden, but a few weeks afterwards.
I really wish that he released the directors cut on Blu Ray, I think you need like Amazon or one of those to watch it I think
I really wish that he released the directors cut on Blu Ray, I think you need like Amazon or one of those to watch it I think
“I think y’all like it a little less than I did” that’s every review lmfao😂
My gripe with this film is that the characters are all idiots.
"What happened to Simon?"
"Oh he went with one of our guys without his gf to the train station to go home."
"Seems legit"
"Hey what happened to Josh and Mark?"
"Oh he was with that one girl so they're probably still chilling together."
"Seems legit"
If I remember correctly a couple days pass with their friends missing and they never question it.
Radar Hawk I had a problem with this too but tbf, they kept drugging the main characters so they couldn’t think clearly most of the time
For the record, the “slow-to-excessive” pattern that Ari achieves is NOT present in Hereditary (cerca Charlie’s decapitation and the dreadful pursuit left over from that).
I don’t want to sound pretentious because I already got into an argument about this film so please read this with a non-hostile tone lol.
The whole movie is a giant metaphor for a shitty, toxic relationship. The commune and characters are just a backdrop for the themes that are being relayed. Dani and Christian know that their relationship isn’t working but they keep trying regardless of the consequences. The writing is (literally) on the wall, plain for all to see... yet they deny the obvious truth and continue to stay in their comfort zone out of fear of change (neither of them made a real effort to leave the commune). It takes Dani literally seeing her boyfriend cheating on her to decide to let go of the relationship and move on.
There are other themes of denial, grief and cycles but I don’t want to get too long winded here. Just know that this movie isn’t really necessarily a horror, but more so an unnerving and uncomfortable way of portraying a breakup story.
That movie is still a horror though. That whole village needed to burn bahaha