How To Identify A Dark Empath?
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So basically an empath who has had enough of dealing with other people's s**t. Maybe people should think twice before they dump on an empath because there can be consequences then they whine when the empath turns nasty. You reap what you sow.
Morally if an empath cannot deal with people's emotional needs detachment is needed, however you do not need to be non emotional nor cruel to detach.
@@justsomeguy8453 Really? So in your view of the world the aggressor deserves all compassion while the victim is in fact in the wrong if they retaliate? Yeah, I know this dog and pony show but please, do go on.
@@jelkel25- Yep, you got it right, and this guy is full of it. There's no such thing as a "dark empath" or even an "empath." This is woo nonsense. What he described is just a regular person who is probably suffering from functional depression. It sounds like a trauma response, not some manipulative and deliberate actions of a so-called "dark empath."
@@kdphotos4691 Yeah, I can live with that, sounds about right. If you replace "empath" with nice person who can see past their own reality bubble pre trauma and post trauma is this "Dark Empath" which is more probably a manifestation of many other things including functioning Depression or CPTSD, undiagnosed untreated Adult ADHD (which can lead back to Depression).
No, dark empath sounds stupid and I don’t like it personally, but dark empath means they actually don’t have empathy, only have cognitive empathy, and use cognitive empathy to manipulate people. Cognitive empathy means, they don’t have empathy, but can act/fake they have empathy to trick you.
Sooo is there anyone out there who is not effed up one way or the other? 🤔
No. Everyone has flaws. If you're looking for purity in any way or form, you'll be alone.
Exactly! It's too scary! I think it's why I tend towards depression and anxiety.
Jesus Christ
In my experience, no….
For quite a while I used to think I was a dark empath, but then I realised it was just due to the circumstances of my upbringing & earlier social life; I was used to all interactions being purely cognitive on both sides (as that was all I received & thus all I gave) & so that was how I approached the world in general, over time I have allowed myself to “risk” genuine connections & while some of that has come at the cost of getting ensnared by narcissists on frustratingly frequent - though less & less often as time has gone on - occasions, I’ve also developed the ability to have genuine empathic rapport with people who’re being genuinely empathic towards me.
I'm a dark empath. But I have it under control. Nobody suffers because of me. That's very important for me.
Are you that or an introvert?
I think Maybe because you’re identifies yourself is that that might not be true
If you don't make people suffer, are you sure you are a dark empath?
Nobody suffers because of you? Are you sure? That's like saying you can do no wrong and nothing is ever your fault to some degree... I'm not sure about that line tbh
I get it
I'm starting to think that all of these disorders are really all the same thing.
Trauma. Poorly processed trauma. You're right.
I agree
Demons psychologised - to avoid detection
The root cause might be the same (trauma) but how people react to that, is very different.
What the f*CK 🤨 I've never heard this term before but this just totally described my personality
Dont attach to these given names. Our behaviour is much bigger. Anxiety as a result of illness, depersonalisation, naecisstic abused etc etc can defines this as well.
@@Lesane007 interesting you say that as I have been diagnosed with GAD which I suspect probably stems from undiagnosed CTPSD.
I've diagnosed myself with the entire spectrum of cluster B personality types of I'm honest mate 😬 It's such a complex subject though with so many grey areas which - like you say - leave many people questioning their own motives, behaviours and even sanity at times 🫢
@@pamethyst8197 sorry to hear about the diagnoses. I can relate. It is indeed complicated, but our body and mind wants us to listen. It's a health journey! My anxiety is coming from food intolerances, leaky gut, mold toxins and a fatty liver.
All the best!
Me too lol
It totally described me until the end when he said they lack morality and can be very cruel. So I don't know.... I make a point of not stepping on others, the guilt crushes me. I do wonder about all these labels.
The best way to approach all this is to STOP with the labels.
Stop labeling yourself and others. Most people have positive and negative traits, traumatic experiences and bad habits.
Identify BEHAVIORS that are healthy or not and assess who you want in your circle.
Sugar- hasn’t that just described most of us in our first year or two healing after narc abuse!!!? I said it I said it 😂- raising the roof tonight 🔥👀
Oh my god I just realised this..OH MY GOD!!!! THANKYOU😭 I moved out of my hometown two years ago and yes I'm experiencing these things. Now, I know why.
So...What the hell is empathic about them?
My friends, there is no such thing as a ‘dark empath’ or super empath. I do believe that there are wounded empaths, and through the process of their awareness/healing, they become stronger. Their abilities, such as discernment, detecting evil vs good and loving themselves are more at the forefront. Sadly, some empaths, whom have been so broken by the evil narcissist, may not mentally/physically recover…but becoming like-minded as the narcissist, just doesn’t happen. Please pray for every victim of narcissistic abuse, it’s a spiritual battle.☮️
Right on 🗣 and it's people with ZERO degree in Psychology who come up with these terms.People either have empathy or they don't. Nothing in between.
Please see my comment posted above, yes that person does exist but you are right it was forged due to my very narcissistic and misogynistic father. She is a victim but trust me she is an especially cruel being at being able to sense our emotions and coming in for the psychological ‘kill’ every time. And we never see it coming since she knows how we feel before we do. This one is worse than a normal narcissist 😢😢
I agree with this.
They are double faced too
I have most of these traits, just without the inability to map my own emotions and not having morals.
I have an extremely strong moral compass and often stick to it when that can be detrimental in other ways (like being ostracised).
I like and deal very well with attention, being a musician and performer, and a natural leader, but don't crave attention. I actually like and prefer being alone, with nobody talking to me or looking at me.
What does this make me?
A complex human being.
I feel and do the same.
Self aware 🙂
My only morality, if you can call that, is never to commit suicide.
P.s. i am a dark empath too and i learnt to read my self the same way i do it with other people other than act normal as survival machanism
It's known that information is power. If an empath can decode all the people in a room and he gets threats, yes, an empath can turn to be dangerous, he can turn all that info against anyone. The retaliation of an empath could be also very persuasive.
I guess we all fall in a category or another, we have to because life throws us in all the directions.
Peace 🙏
Finding your channel helped me heal so much. Thank you 🙏🏻
7 punishing years of dealing with this personality type, it's a whole bad circus with these types of clowns 🤡
You are just a little angel aren't you !
Great. One more thing I have to study and figure out. And another thing for my family members to direct at me
Lol, I feel ya! ♥️☀️🙏
Hmmm... the description you've given of a dark empath sounds very much like someone with narcissistic personality disorder.
There's all these labels and education and a lot of it makes sense but for traumatised people who match these labels, there's no help available, it's confusing
Exactly. That's why I made thr comment about stopping all this labeling. It's just gives people more things to obsess about
@@jenninemorel7693 I've spent 1000s on therapy with 4/5 different therapists and got no gain at all, I feel like what's the point
@@liam.4454 What "gain" would you like to achieve from therapy that you have not been able to at this point?
@@jenninemorel7693 deal with mental health issues but I've started to think therapy can't help me, they seem to Imply that I have all the answers and it's in my hands but I don't believe that
@@liam.4454 Can you articulate more precisely what you are hoping to achieve from therapy?
How is it that these people crave attention yet not want to be around people … where one might find attention? Where’s the empathy if empath is in the label? Not trying to challenge what’s being claimed as much as just trying to wrap my head around this … if that makes sense?
Cognitive empathy,
They might understand someone's emotions to manipulate someone, but it doesn't make them kind or moral.
They might crave people purely so that they can manipulate for attention and gratification, but simultaneously despise people because they can't manipulate them.
I've known individuals like this
Yeah I'm confused too. Seems like it might be a description of a sociopath? I don't understand yet. 🤷♀️
@@philosiphydept or rather be good at manipulation and to get others to go along with them? Somewhat like some (not all) politicians. We presume them to be loners, however one could be targeted by a “club” of sorts.
It's one of the dumbest videos he's ever made. Really scraping the bottom of the barrel for content and just making things up as he goes.
This is me. I crave attention sometimes but hate around people. Don't get all the physiology knowledge in 30 seconds youtube video. People are studing years after years to gain knowledge about human physiology.
Keep attention at labels, we aren't labels, we are living beings, each one is different. For example, I have compassion and I am not cruel but you can say that I am a darck because I prefer stay away from people. But it is because I have a problem of allergic to chemical products and because I fill to much the emotions of people and I have to keep attention all the time in the middle of people and I ned to stay for a while alone. Labels help to study and tray to help but attention. (I been a eremit for years and now my life is in with people of new but with my will) Karma. Have a nice life.
How do you differentiate between narcissist and dark empathy? Isn't it a narcissist who has learned to use empathy to achieve their own ends?
@Samantha Powers as someone overcoming what I believe was strong narcissistic tendencies, I disagree with the statement that narcissists don't feel. They do.
Thanks for your insight on the dark empath.
Narcissist Samantha of any type do not feel for other people they only feel for themselves so they are with double standards they are hypocrites manipulators grandiose thinking selfish self-absorbed all about me-me-me and they are very evil and no matter what they do to you it doesn't matter as long as you don't do it to them so they are one-sided as well with the double standards these are some awful people that only care about themselves so about their feelings yes they feel just for themselves not you
@@kenyabean7781 thanks for clarifying.
I thought empath was not a clinically recognized term. Much less dark empath
They are very dangerous... their appearance is very deceptive... very easy to confuse with a true empath.
Exactly.
It is just a human with - NPD.
With very high levels of - Cognitive.
Empathy.
I'm not dagerous as long as i don't get pissed, i also racall to manipulate people only when i'm pissed as fuck or just want some well deserved peace
Describes my ex to a T. I see empathy from him for children and pets but he can be very cruel with his words, at least to me. It is confusing.
I think my childhood bestie turned into a dark empath recently after going through narcissistic ex and friends and fired from her job. She did console me when i also went through a narcissistic abusive relationship but later on she displayed erratic behaviour many times and would justify her off behaviour by playing victim and saying that since people have been mean to her, she'll be mean too and even blocked me after i jist asked how she was doing. She was literally dumping her trauma and her mistreatment on me. After that i too blocked her back for good and didn't give her a chance after she unblocked me for a while as I have no time in being someone's emotional punching bag. My heart still aches for letting go of a longterm friendship but I feel proud of myself for not letting a dark empath fulfilling her goal 😊 My journey of transforming myself into educated empath is making me a real baddie 😊
Dark empath, narcissist etc, this is becoming too much...majority of the time, people just have a different personality that doesnt match yours and that could create unpleasantness...we shouldnt milk every behaviour and categorise them and trick people to believe they dealt with something bad...this is mind fucking
Narcissists ARE mind - fucking .
They ( and I mean All of them ) are walking , talking mind - fucks .
" Looking for whom they may
devour " ...
Seems like u got triggered
If the empathy is cognitive, then it's not an Empath: That's a covert narcissist.
Their empathy is cognitive. They see others’ suffering, but they will not help.
Sounds exactly like someone I've known for 33 years. So hard to let go. Very painful. Esp the future faking...so painful.
I'm missing a couple traits but I'm seeing traits of being in unhealthy environments for many years. Thank you so much for your videos and the time you have put into them . Time is valuable. Thank you soo soo much !!! You beat to a different drum and it makes a person dig deep 🫶
Completely correct. Right here, I am one.💀
So isn’t this basically a description of a Narcissist who has cognitive non emotional empathy ?
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I have a same personality except for the last one example. Morals is the the set bar of all personality disorder.
Wow this is my mom exactly 😢. She is very empathic, senses things especially with her daughters, but boy she uses it for cruelty 😢. I can tell you from experience that this type of person exists.
I was unaware that there is a label for those people but I know one when I see one.
Interesting,.this is why the whole "narcissist v empath" always bothered me. I have empathy,.. but when I feel someone "comes for me" i can be cruel and eye for an eye. Sam van makes out an empath.. A fool.. Neither are true.
I'm the same.
Ever think that maybe they just give as good as they get. The majority of random interactions are as described. Most people are not going to care about your problems because they are dealing with their own problems. Conversation about meaningful things are few and far between folks. Solitude of self by Elizabeth Cady Stanton. Read it and keep it in your mind.
For sure 😮
It’s Complex Post Traumatic Stress Disorder.
Being the main subject of abuse for a long time leads to isolation and emotional and physical numbness.
Empathy are synonymous with morality. That’s one of the main reason that they’re preyed on by narcissists.
Mapping people is an automated self defense mechanism, after years or decades of receiving abuse.
From my experience, they are the one preying on other true empaths.
I think I know a few of these people, and I thought it was normal but I kind of get turned away from these people and end up feeling not good after being around them. I like being around certain people but not these types of people
I feel called out 😅 I have morality but morals are subjective but generally I do the good thing and try to be nice to others. It's more the product of people hurting me on repeat that makes me want to keep my distance emotionally. Lots of acquaintances I can empathize with but I can't ever make strong friendships because I don't trust people to not take advantage of me or at the bare minimum stick around.
If an dark empath just shows a little bit of more care and show it while taking notes and then abuse it then its done
I think you are describing a maquiavellian. Whats good about them is they dont give a f about things outer their concerns.
Sounds a lot like my x thank goodness I escaped!!
Attention is such a distraction..
I admittedly have a lot in common with this personality construct... but I still have something of a moral compass, albeit a controversially inclusive one.
🙏🏻
No lamp posts
What kind of self critical statements would a dark empath make if they're not great at self mapping? Are they usually making untrue critiques in order to gain attention?
For example, think of a guy who always drives too fast. He probably knows he screwed up after being pulled over and ticketed yet might be completely blind to the fact that their impulsive, borderline ignorant way of living is at the root of the problem. Some people who are very critical of others can be as ruthless towards their own behavior and mistakes without learning from it.
Think 'The Talented Mr Ripley.' 🎭
They're highly manipulative, high in dark triad traits yet can put on a great, shapeshifting show to get their needs met and often make good first responders such as paramedics, firefighters, pilots, surgeons ("I concur") and the like as they can easily bypass their conscience and all the blood, guts, morals, chaos, fears and tears to do what needs doing more efficiently.
@@louisegarner8888 Fantastic response. Thank you.
@@justsomeguy8453 Actually 🤦♀️ I think I meant "Catch Me If You Can" but both apply!
I knew her!
I don't think it's crave, more like, knowing it's something you just have to do. So they will go amongst people, regret it, and than give themselves a pat on the back for dealing with narcissists and clowns for another day... All apart of trying your best, and being as much like everyone else as possible.
Hmm, mixed up with aspects introvert vs extrovert tendencies..?
Hello ex?
😂
there's gotta be plenty of famous dark empaths to study then, what would be some?
So what are you saying, I'm a Dark Empath? Cool.
Okay youtube enough analysing
To me dark empath is just another word for a narcissist. Do we really need it?
I don't understand this one much.
It’s all about balance but yes I’m a empath and just dated a dark oneee lorrrrddddd have mercy may have to do a story time🫠🫠🫠🫠🫠🫠
I don't know that I agree with him. I don't think being an empath is necessarily a good thing to begin with. Empathetic people can suffer a great deal at the get go, because of their ability to feel for others. It can be very exhausting to feel for others. The idea of a dark empath sounds like an oxymoron.
Flattery won't get you anywhere with me pal😂
I think I am that 💀
Lots of people don’t understand what is dark empath. The word sounds just stupid but, It’s not someone empathetic eventually snapped and fallen to a dark side, it means they actually don’t have empathy but have cognitive empathy. Cognitive empathy means they can fake and act if they have empathy and show empathy while they don’t have empathy.
Yup
INTJ s Get called dark enapths a lot
intjs don’t lack morality though. Not as a characteristic. They can be cold and judgmental and poor at socializing but that judgmental part is generally grounded in a consistent morality.
Every single thing Richard said describes my INTJ sister. She also happens to be the golden child in my family of origin.
they are actually infj s
@@nsjs17 They also go by their own morality more so ..
@@justlookalittledeeper9953 That's unfortunate. 😕
Let me sum it up for you all! A dark empath is an emotional genius! This person can literally be anyone at any given moment without causing any suspicion. They’re probably left handed or ambidextrous. They have all the love to give but keep everyone else’s love at a distance. Only because they don’t want to feel emotional responsible for others people’s emotions.
A dark empath is an observer. This person recognizes human behavior. This person is sensitive to sound.
This person can see sound (don’t try to wrap your head around it).
This person will be the number 2 person within a heirarchy but be seen as the person in charge.
Reason being; the number 1 person has all the responsibility and the number 3 person has the least. This person will have all the fruits of labor and someone to blame when things are not in order.
This person would be like a consigliere in nature.
This person walks the thin line between life and death because this this emotion intelligence can build or destroy.
This person is the best at succeeding and the best at failing!
This person doesn’t see the glass half full nor half empty.
This person see the glass of water as just right.
A glass of water!
I can't believe someone can be so cruel. I don't know, they must feel something. It's not possible that everything they do/say and live is a lie. Praying for these people, they must heal 🙏🏻
Cruel how ?
He said they can be cruel but anyone can be but just that by itself I don’t think so
Pls believe it. Bc if u don't, u'll have problems with them sooner or later.
They can. And will.
Hope this isn’t me
"empath" is just someone traumatized.
what is dark empath
🤔
Sounds like my narcissistic ex.
I thought this was something else
Sounds just like average narcissist. Isn't "dark empath" just a buzz word?
guess I'm a dark empath... maybe why I appreciate dogs more than people.. 🤔😳🤷😂
Richard wants there to be such a thing. Doesn’t exist. It’s one or the other. Don’t get it twisted.
🤔 explain in song....new bread?..🎶chloe black,, who cares,,?
You’re describing the American left
Sounds a bit narcissistic.
Oh, a narcissist? Whats a dark empath
A walking contradiction, lets go.
What!
Non existent
It's a narcissist
You are wrong on many things ❤
Lack what? NO, stick to the narcissist analysis.
sounds like a narcissist to me.🤔
Well… welcome to the mainstream name for what a heyoka was back in the 1400s 😂 but I mean… it’s primordial energy… it’s beyond a think that flooded us in the beginning of a Bible. But… imagine having a little dose of every type of empath crammed into one human… fkn right you have a dark empath. You have a soul trapped with a spirit that drinks wine with god and ale with Satan. Can’t call us a narcissist tho….. you know… cuz they lack empathy and you can’t isolate cognitive empathy. 10000000% feelers. Buts it’s a lot easier to verbally make out someone else than it is to convey a properly articulated about oneself since you know….. a normal empath can’t even tell who’s energy is who’s. 😂😂😂 so again, imagine a little dose of em all? But lemme go back to my corner 🧱
Wtf is gramdios
Sounds like me, but I do follow morals of right and wrong. I believe in God
Sounds like me
To become detached to outcomes and expectations I call that awakening, loving but not engrossed in the movie screen 😂
🤔