After looking for tutorials to learn first steps to start with engraving, I spent around one month watching videos that did not teach me how to actually prepare the gravers. So I did what you explained, as a student I bought several gravers and I didn't know they were unprepared, I started trying to engrave and they would get stuck in the metal sheets while my pressure and frustration augmented as rockets to the sky :) so now I understand why that was. I needed to prepare the gravers! my God, thank you for a great video :) I will watch all the others you may have.
I ran into a problem with a new graver that splintered up the spine when I was doing a 4 pt star setting...this video helped me enormously so I could repair my graver by hand with a diamond plate. Thank you!
Can't thank you enough for the options in the tutorial. I'm such a beginner that I haven't a clue what to purchase to complete the project I have started. This helped me a lot.
Thank you kindly for this great instructional video. Heeding your advice I just ordered a Crocker sharpener and I will attempt my hand at engraving metal.
You are an exceptional teacher. By far the best video of this type I have ever seen on TH-cam. And I am looking for such a clean and comprehensive information for a very long time.
I've been looking at gravers for a purple of years now and I am almost ready to bite the bullet on a budget setup. This helped me a lot in that I can now see a realistic setup for my megre setup. IMS super happy I clicked on this.
I should add that the gravers I use here are made from blank stock. I'll do a second tutorial later on sharpening traditional push gravers but the idea is still the same and the resulting heels look the same.
I am getting started with push graving, as well as hammer and chisel (For now. An air graver would be wonderful when finances permit). I will be buying A GRS positioning vise, GRS S.A. Hammer and Chisel kit, and GRS Push Graver with QC collets. I guess one major question I have is what gravers to add to the mix for a beginner? The Kit comes with a bunch of tapered flat gravers and a 90 degree RFF point. Should I be getting a couple Onglettes and broader RFF points? I know eventually I can make my own, but I would like a decent starter set so that while I am reading and watching videos I will have the tools I need on hand. One big order beats many smaller ones. Thank's for your time!
As I was watching this I saw the clouds separate and the Angel Choir was singing the Hallelujah chorus! Thanks so much. Love the GRS dual angle sharpening guide but doesn't that necessitate buying the rotary sharpening machine with the three wheels?
Thx, ive watched this a few times these last few years, its hard to get a handle on all the info out there, but it does come together.slowly!!..few things , for me, im into hand push, the wedge heel as i call it, is better for hand push, the parallel , as with the, templates designed for etc, are really for air assist, but not hand push, a wedge heel not short but say medium, has no issues with heel drag, and cuts well...one more, i was lucky to pick up a load of 2mm square carbide at a good price, (ground to missed tolerances, from Germany )so i use this...ive found the direction of the hone makes a difference, one makes more tip fails, going into the graver, the other doesnt perhaps the former causes some micro fractures, that eventfully get exposed..im not sure..luving this journey!!
That is a really good explanation that can’t find on others channels just found it out I did subscribed , like it , sharing , and activate the bell thank you for sharing
Excellent video, explaining how to get the correct angles and why they’re needed The Bergeon 2462 watchmakers screwdriver sharpening tool works really well with a little practice…expensive, but many cheaper copies available
I had to stop back to tell you thank you! I'm a complete novice and am actually trying this for a project that I'd like to put a monogram on a reproduction 18th century tin document box. Followed your example here with a preshaped 105 and a crocker. Totally nervous that I'd screw it all up. You could not imagine my excitement when I saw that teeny, tiny little curl of tin appear as I attempted a straight line!!! (Tho' the line wasn't so straight for hand push... will try sharpening a flat this weekend to attempt a wriggling look.) Thanks for the lessons & examples!!
kukrae fo keep in mind engraving takes an enormous amount of practice. It took me two years to become proficient enough with a hand push graver to do quality lettering. Patience is key.
@@MasterEngraverTV I truly understand!! This particular idea has a deadline of the end of March :) Me and my bright ideas that won't leave me alone until I attempt it. But even after, I won't be giving it up! I really enjoyed trying it. Tamara...
I'm just learning about gravers and engraving and this was an excellent tutorial. I'm wondering if the GRS tool would work with a stone (rather than the turntable) by moving it back and forth on the stone on the bench top like you did with the Crocker?
This video helped me restore the lot of gravers from the late 1800's! I wouldn't have trusted anyone else to help me restore these beautiful handheld graver tools!
I thank you for doing so detailed videos they are helping so much I have noticed in one of your carvings background it looks like tiny balls instead of the stippling you have shown I am wondering if you can show how to do it please
good video, and as a side note, woodworkers call that "doorstop" a honing angle guide, as their version handles all kinds of chisels/carving/turning tools, simmilar sharpening method; and the great thing is it removes variabillity of human movement in the sharpening process. one product you could use is a "belt sharpener", like woodturners use for their chisels, as this stops overheating the steel, and also has jigs for maintaining cutting profiles on the tools, no matter what it is, knife, scisors, axes called a "tormach" machine, and would be a lot cheaper than having to buy what amounts to a gem faceting machine to sharpen the tools.
Great videos as usual, as a suggestion though you should include a close up of a before and after of each of the gravers so people can see the differences. Maybe post that as a screen shot on TH-cam?
I included close ups of each graver at the end of each sharpening session. The only difference between before and after is you are starting with a square or round piece of stock.
So glad to have found your videos/channel. For those of us with the GRS single angle graver sharpening fixtures (which I’ve been using for near 20 years now) would you be willing to do a demo on heel making/sharpening? I do my silver and copper work small scale and have yet to make the expenditure to get the dual angle fixture or any of the S. Lowrie (sp?) jigs, so, a nice run through with the less expensive gear would be appreciated by a good many of us (pretty sure it’s not just me). Thank you very much, awesome work!
Master Engraver TV many thanks, also for the name correction w/Mr. Lindsay (wow how I want all of his equipment). I’ll be looking forward to seeing part 2. Hope you have a grand day.
I have noticed that there is alot of preference/variation in heel and face angles. How do I know what angle works for me? What is the optimal outcome? Also, if working on a larger piece, would a larger heel be required? Lastly, does everything need to be level when sharpening ( table, stones, etc )?
These sharpening techniques apply to other types of gravers such as flat and onglette? Would you change anything for other materials such as hard woods or mother of pearl?
I recall watching You teach a few computers ago. I kept them in My favorites, maybe I can find the lessons in this "latest computer". I'll keep these lessons as best I can, I have Your name and Master Engraver TV. Yup,.
Hello! Are you aware of some website in the EU that sells those v-gravers? For whatever reason I find that extremely difficult to find. Same for the ones used for woodcuts (not the gauges but rather the flat pointed ones). Cheers!
I am a, soon to be 78 year old hoby engrever. I need to know what ink, is used to darken the engraving. Thank you so much for vidos! You are a great help.
Michael Scott most of us use Flat or Satin Krylon. I use Krylon sidewalk striping paint. The formula is tougher. Flood the work, wipe the excess and then wipe with a stiff paper dampened with thinner after its dried to remove the rest of the film.
Layne, Your channel is great, and your work is fantastic. I was wondering why you didn't include the Lindsay sharpening templates hanging on your wall in the video. There's no adjustments to make, except graver length, so sharpening errors are very hard to make.
When you were touching up the 105 at the end what grit were you using? 260/600/1200? And on the face touch up with a broken tip I assume you just take the face back far enough to remove the damaged area?
shawndrogoff you are correct. It only takes a second to dress the face past the fissure in the point. The wheel on my motor is 1200. But the edge has been worn down to around 8000 or so with another diamond lap so I have two grits in the same wheel.
At 20:45, you go into the wheel's rotation to cut the face. Why do you cut that way rather than as before being perpendicular, or even with the wheel's rotation so you're pointing the other way? I noticed also for the heels you just touch them, but you're not going into the wheel's rotation on those two touches, but perpendicular as before. Is there some specific reason?
I should also add that the heels are microscopic. My wheel's edge is worn down to likely 10,000 grit. If i do more than touch them for a second while the wheel is running they'll be too big. More often I just leave the motor off and lightly swipe the heels with no power. Making heels too large is a common problem for beginners.
I really like your channel. I happened across it randomly when looking at how makers build custom watches. Such patience and effort in engraving, but very rewarding in the final products. Thank you for taking the time to make these videos.
Nice video but confused? what are you talking about when you said using the 120 degree and setting the face to 45 or the other fixture 105 degree and again setting the face to 45 degrees? whats 120 or 105?
RHJ GOLD the fixture I use cut gravers with an angle of 120degrees. A standard square graver for instance is 90deg. These gravers are designed with a shallower angle. They are cut with modern “parallel” heel geometry as opposed to standard heels. To learn more about this type of graver you can learn more at LindsayEngraving.com
Billie Gass there are no beginner or hobby grade tools since hand engraving is a niche profession. All available tools are professional quality. I recommend the GRS Graversmith. Be VERY wary of cheap knock off tools on Amazon and EBay. They are nothing like the real GRS Tools made in the US. They are mostly designed by Chinese companies trying to make a buck who have zero interest in or knowledge of engraving. There is a reason pneumatic assist engraving tools are expensive. They are extremely precision instruments.
I'm fairly new to engraving, but not to folding knives and sharpening them. I just use the stones I use for my knives; resin bonded diamond stones, from Columbia Gorge Stone Works (CGSW). Diamond plates work fine, but they're far inferior in longevity and precision. Resin bonded diamond stones have the benefit of a much higher concentration of diamonds (up to ~100%), and can be dressed/lapped to ensure flatness. Diamond plates will always have their place, but there's been a ton of innovation in sharpening equipment recently and they shouldn't be considered to go-to method they once were.
Hi Mr Zuelke, love your videos please tell us about your mini lathe in the background it looks great for small metal projects what type is it, would love a video :)
Thanks for the nice video. I have a couple of questions, what metal are gravers used for gun engraving and what metal are the actual gun gravers made of? As guns are 416R steel and it is hard. Will these type of gravers cut steel?
416 isn’t very bad to cut. It cuts quite nicely with tool steel gravers. Blued hubs are carbon steel and cut like butter. On some of the hardened steels I use carbide. The reality is that the majority of modern guns are not good canvases for engraving.
@@MasterEngraverTV well you are using stuff that you made, and said something about hammer and chisel, the graver's that I got with the foredom power graver don't look so stout compared what you are demonstrating with
The chisels I showed in this video are old die sinkers chisels and are extremely hard to find now. Most people purchase a handle from someone like GRS Tools that will accept quick change collets that hold standard square or round graver stock. All my gravers are shapes from these blank gravers. I don’t suggest trying hammer and chisel without a teacher. You’ll spend years just learning to use the tools. The Foredom tool is really only good as a hammer handpiece for jewelers. It’s not really suitable for Fine engraving. The GRS Graversmith is the most basic pneumatic assist graver I would recommend.
@@MasterEngraverTV thank you very much I finally got the graver sharpened correctly, I have no formal experience other just seeing it and believing, I am breathing, I can do do this. If you are curious to see some of my work, Rangels Art is on IG FB Twitter. I don't really know how much engraving I will actually be doing I just like knowing as much as my brain can retain
Mr. Zuelke, thank you for a great tutorial on graver sharpening. I've recently subscribed to your channel in hopes of bettering my own engraving skill set. I've a question if you've the time, please. I've found that carbide gravers help to extend times between graver geometry touch ups while engraving. I use a ceramic wheel to grind my heels, but I'm curious about your technique when applied specifically on carbide to create heels. I most commonly use a 105 carbide for my work, so your advice and thoughts would be greatly appreciated. By the way, GEAUX TIGERS! I live in Gonzales, I'd love to spend an afternoon talking if you've ever the time. Thank you in advance!
There is no difference between carbide and HSS with sharpening techniques. Ceramic with diamond spray is perfect for polishing heels if that's what you want. I rarely polish heels though because most of my work gets inked and a polished cut wont hold ink as well. I only use polished heels when I'm cutting a gun to be blued and I want cuts to sparkle.
I use a variety of gravers but they already come optimally hardened from the manufacturer. I use High Speed Steel, M-42 Steel, Glensteel and C-Max Carbide.
Hi i do engraving About 1 year And i use push gravers chisels And homemade pneumatic graver And my qestion IS in school we create large curve at the heel for rasing the graver And then tatch up the point what is the easyest repetable way to sharpen this tipe of graver?
Making a curve in the tip of the graver is not an great way to make gravers. The only reason to do this is if you were engraving inside of a bowl and needed extra lift. The heel itself provides all the lift needed. If you notice the wooden handle graver in my video has a curved tip made for cutting in bowls. You can see I sharpen it the same as any other graver.
After looking for tutorials to learn first steps to start with engraving, I spent around one month watching videos that did not teach me how to actually prepare the gravers. So I did what you explained, as a student I bought several gravers and I didn't know they were unprepared, I started trying to engrave and they would get stuck in the metal sheets while my pressure and frustration augmented as rockets to the sky :) so now I understand why that was. I needed to prepare the gravers! my God, thank you for a great video :) I will watch all the others you may have.
I ran into a problem with a new graver that splintered up the spine when I was doing a 4 pt star setting...this video helped me enormously so I could repair my graver by hand with a diamond plate. Thank you!
Best tutorial I've seen yet! Thank you very much
Haha, just learned that distinction between graver and Engraver. About 2 weeks ago. Thanks for the reinforcement. 😊
Can't tell you how much this video means to Me. Thank you very much!. From the Buckeye State. Walter Van Cleave
Can't thank you enough for the options in the tutorial. I'm such a beginner that I haven't a clue what to purchase to complete the project I have started. This helped me a lot.
Thank you, my first three gravers arrived today and you just took all the fear and intimidation out of sharpening them!
Thank you kindly for this great instructional video. Heeding your advice I just ordered a Crocker sharpener and I will attempt my hand at engraving metal.
Your engraving is next level and your videos are becoming on par! Best tutorials out there on the net. You're setting the standard my friend!
You are an exceptional teacher. By far the best video of this type I have ever seen on TH-cam. And I am looking for such a clean and comprehensive information for a very long time.
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I've been looking at gravers for a purple of years now and I am almost ready to bite the bullet on a budget setup. This helped me a lot in that I can now see a realistic setup for my megre setup. IMS super happy I clicked on this.
Nice. I'm a complete beginner an this is one of the most helpful videos iv found! Thank u, big thumbs up from Ireland 👍
Im about to order my first hand gravers, THANK YOU!!!!!
I should add that the gravers I use here are made from blank stock. I'll do a second tutorial later on sharpening traditional push gravers but the idea is still the same and the resulting heels look the same.
thank you for the tutorial, Could you give us paralell heels angels for GRS sharpening system. Gravers like 90 105 120 Thank you
@@TheDrMoroz 15 degrees is the angle for any heel regardless of geometry
Master Engraver TV what type of steel can you make gravers out of?
thank you!!!
I am getting started with push graving, as well as hammer and chisel (For now. An air graver would be wonderful when finances permit). I will be buying A GRS positioning vise, GRS S.A. Hammer and Chisel kit, and GRS Push Graver with QC collets. I guess one major question I have is what gravers to add to the mix for a beginner? The Kit comes with a bunch of tapered flat gravers and a 90 degree RFF point. Should I be getting a couple Onglettes and broader RFF points? I know eventually I can make my own, but I would like a decent starter set so that while I am reading and watching videos I will have the tools I need on hand. One big order beats many smaller ones. Thank's for your time!
I haven't watched 5 minutes yet and I already learnt quite a bit. Subscribing right now!
Great vid, pure teaching at it’s best ,I’ve been in the jewellery trade for 50 years and yet I’m still learning .Thanks so much.
OMG. I really appreciated this upload and can't wait for the next upload that discusses... different gravers and geometries and their use. Than you.
Thank you so much for sharing you knowledge. I have shared several of you videos with my jewelry classes
Please keep up the videos! I appreciate them. I did just buy a handful of gravers and I wold like to learn more! Thanks
Thanks this was just what I needed to understand graver geometry a little more.
Always love this in-depth information. Thank you Mr. Zuelke.
As I was watching this I saw the clouds separate and the Angel Choir was singing the Hallelujah chorus! Thanks so much. Love the GRS dual angle sharpening guide but doesn't that necessitate buying the rotary sharpening machine with the three wheels?
Thx, ive watched this a few times these last few years, its hard to get a handle on all the info out there, but it does come together.slowly!!..few things , for me, im into hand push, the wedge heel as i call it, is better for hand push, the parallel , as with the, templates designed for etc, are really for air assist, but not hand push, a wedge heel not short but say medium, has no issues with heel drag, and cuts well...one more, i was lucky to pick up a load of 2mm square carbide at a good price, (ground to missed tolerances, from Germany )so i use this...ive found the direction of the hone makes a difference, one makes more tip fails, going into the graver, the other doesnt perhaps the former causes some micro fractures, that eventfully get exposed..im not sure..luving this journey!!
Fantastic information, Layne! Great and very clear explanation of something we see people struggle to understand. Thanks for making this!
Christopher Correll thanks Chris and thanks also for all you do on your end. Glendo is lucky to have you.
Thank you sir. I would like to ask I have 2 air engraving chisel that doesn't work was wondering what to look for if they stopped working. Thank you
Thank you very much. What an excellent tutorial.
do you have a video using the Steve Lindsay templates for sharpening?
Absolutely wonderful teacher and video! Thank you so much for uploading this.
That is a really good explanation that can’t find on others channels just found it out
I did subscribed , like it , sharing , and activate the bell thank you for sharing
Really great start to finish tutorial.
You guys both make it look so easy
I just wanted to let you know that I've been studying Engraving for awhile and you have answered so many questions. Thank you so much.
Frank
Excellent video, explaining how to get the correct angles and why they’re needed
The Bergeon 2462 watchmakers screwdriver sharpening tool works really well with a little practice…expensive, but many cheaper copies available
Great information, Thank You
David, Argentimagination Jewelry
Thank you very much! I'm ordering my first set of graver bits and you helped a lot!
What's the fiddle and banjo tune at the beginning? When I heard that, I knew I'd like the video.
Beautiful work brother
Very clear and concise. Thank you.
Thank you very much for the advice. I am grateful for good instructions.
Thank you sooooo much for the magnification!!!! ❤❤❤❤
I had to stop back to tell you thank you! I'm a complete novice and am actually trying this for a project that I'd like to put a monogram on a reproduction 18th century tin document box. Followed your example here with a preshaped 105 and a crocker. Totally nervous that I'd screw it all up. You could not imagine my excitement when I saw that teeny, tiny little curl of tin appear as I attempted a straight line!!! (Tho' the line wasn't so straight for hand push... will try sharpening a flat this weekend to attempt a wriggling look.) Thanks for the lessons & examples!!
kukrae fo keep in mind engraving takes an enormous amount of practice. It took me two years to become proficient enough with a hand push graver to do quality lettering. Patience is key.
@@MasterEngraverTV I truly understand!! This particular idea has a deadline of the end of March :) Me and my bright ideas that won't leave me alone until I attempt it. But even after, I won't be giving it up! I really enjoyed trying it. Tamara...
Thanks for show this tips!
I always appreciate you info have a nice day!
I'm just learning about gravers and engraving and this was an excellent tutorial. I'm wondering if the GRS tool would work with a stone (rather than the turntable) by moving it back and forth on the stone on the bench top like you did with the Crocker?
The graver handles you recommend the link doesn't work anymore. Have you another link please?
Love your videos. Thank you so much.!!!!
This video helped me restore the lot of gravers from the late 1800's! I wouldn't have trusted anyone else to help me restore these beautiful handheld graver tools!
I thank you for doing so detailed videos they are helping so much I have noticed in one of your carvings background it looks like tiny balls instead of the stippling you have shown I am wondering if you can show how to do it please
It's done with a beading tool. They come from jewelers supply houses.
Very interesting
Interesting stuff,I see a Elliott SL lathe 😀 too
good video, and as a side note, woodworkers call that "doorstop" a honing angle guide, as their version handles all kinds of chisels/carving/turning tools, simmilar sharpening method; and the great thing is it removes variabillity of human movement in the sharpening process. one product you could use is a "belt sharpener", like woodturners use for their chisels, as this stops overheating the steel, and also has jigs for maintaining cutting profiles on the tools, no matter what it is, knife, scisors, axes called a "tormach" machine, and would be a lot cheaper than having to buy what amounts to a gem faceting machine to sharpen the tools.
Thanx pretty much for your shown how ever it's done
Great videos as usual, as a suggestion though you should include a close up of a before and after of each of the gravers so people can see the differences. Maybe post that as a screen shot on TH-cam?
I included close ups of each graver at the end of each sharpening session. The only difference between before and after is you are starting with a square or round piece of stock.
I would like to inquire about the second way of the sharpener fixture, its name or the way to buy it thank you
lol love the ball vise and whiteboard
So glad to have found your videos/channel. For those of us with the GRS single angle graver sharpening fixtures (which I’ve been using for near 20 years now) would you be willing to do a demo on heel making/sharpening? I do my silver and copper work small scale and have yet to make the expenditure to get the dual angle fixture or any of the S. Lowrie (sp?) jigs, so, a nice run through with the less expensive gear would be appreciated by a good many of us (pretty sure it’s not just me). Thank you very much, awesome work!
Widgets-widgets absolutely. I have one in the shop and I’ll include it in episode 2 of sharpening which will also feature the Lindsay template system
Master Engraver TV many thanks, also for the name correction w/Mr. Lindsay (wow how I want all of his equipment). I’ll be looking forward to seeing part 2.
Hope you have a grand day.
I have noticed that there is alot of preference/variation in heel and face angles. How do I know what angle works for me? What is the optimal outcome?
Also, if working on a larger piece, would a larger heel be required?
Lastly, does everything need to be level when sharpening ( table, stones, etc )?
These sharpening techniques apply to other types of gravers such as flat and onglette? Would you change anything for other materials such as hard woods or mother of pearl?
Great video!
I recall watching You teach a few computers ago. I kept them in My favorites, maybe I can find the lessons in this "latest computer". I'll keep these lessons as best I can, I have Your name and Master Engraver TV. Yup,.
Hello where you can buy for xheap carbide blanks 3mm?
This was great! Thank you
GREAT DIRECT INFO WHICH TOOK A LOT OF THE MYSTERY OUT OF SHARPENING< GREAT INSIGHT!
Buen video, maestro, saludos desde México México.
Absolutely Epically Awesome Tutorial!!!
thank you so mach for sharing you knoledge,excellent explanations.Thank You
czesci Leszek,dobre vidio
This was informative and very useful. Thanks so much!
Hello! Are you aware of some website in the EU that sells those v-gravers? For whatever reason I find that extremely difficult to find. Same for the ones used for woodcuts (not the gauges but rather the flat pointed ones). Cheers!
I am a, soon to be 78 year old hoby engrever. I need to know what ink, is used to darken the engraving. Thank you so much for vidos! You are a great help.
Michael Scott most of us use Flat or Satin Krylon. I use Krylon sidewalk striping paint. The formula is tougher. Flood the work, wipe the excess and then wipe with a stiff paper dampened with thinner after its dried to remove the rest of the film.
Master Engraver TV the
Layne,
Your channel is great, and your work is fantastic. I was wondering why you didn't include the Lindsay sharpening templates hanging on your wall in the video. There's no adjustments to make, except graver length, so sharpening errors are very hard to make.
Too much to add in one video. I'll do a standalone review of the Lindsay templates in a separate video in the future.
@@MasterEngraverTV Thanks Layne. I like that Crocker fixture. I'll have to get one and add degree wheels to it.
Awesome video, sir. Thank you.
Very interesting....I never thought about shaping and sharpening ‘gravers’....by ‘engravers’....👍🏻
Great video, thanks for sharing.
Спасибо большое за очень полезное видео! 🤝Осталось узнать где можно купить такой станок для заточки🙂
Nice explanation
When you were touching up the 105 at the end what grit were you using? 260/600/1200? And on the face touch up with a broken tip I assume you just take the face back far enough to remove the damaged area?
shawndrogoff you are correct. It only takes a second to dress the face past the fissure in the point. The wheel on my motor is 1200. But the edge has been worn down to around 8000 or so with another diamond lap so I have two grits in the same wheel.
At 20:45, you go into the wheel's rotation to cut the face. Why do you cut that way rather than as before being perpendicular, or even with the wheel's rotation so you're pointing the other way? I noticed also for the heels you just touch them, but you're not going into the wheel's rotation on those two touches, but perpendicular as before. Is there some specific reason?
It doesn't matter in the least which direction I'm pointing for the most part. It's just random
I should also add that the heels are microscopic. My wheel's edge is worn down to likely 10,000 grit. If i do more than touch them for a second while the wheel is running they'll be too big. More often I just leave the motor off and lightly swipe the heels with no power. Making heels too large is a common problem for beginners.
I really like your channel. I happened across it randomly when looking at how makers build custom watches. Such patience and effort in engraving, but very rewarding in the final products. Thank you for taking the time to make these videos.
Will it sharpen an ongolet craver also
Thank you very much for this tutorial.
Nice video but confused? what are you talking about when you said using the 120 degree and setting the face to 45 or the other fixture 105 degree and again setting the face to 45 degrees? whats 120 or 105?
RHJ GOLD the fixture I use cut gravers with an angle of 120degrees. A standard square graver for instance is 90deg. These gravers are designed with a shallower angle. They are cut with modern “parallel” heel geometry as opposed to standard heels. To learn more about this type of graver you can learn more at LindsayEngraving.com
What would be the best set up for a pneumatic engraver for a beginner?
Billie Gass there are no beginner or hobby grade tools since hand engraving is a niche profession. All available tools are professional quality. I recommend the GRS Graversmith. Be VERY wary of cheap knock off tools on Amazon and EBay. They are nothing like the real GRS Tools made in the US. They are mostly designed by Chinese companies trying to make a buck who have zero interest in or knowledge of engraving. There is a reason pneumatic assist engraving tools are expensive. They are extremely precision instruments.
Nice video Lane!
Thank you for this education Lane!
The Crocker works with any type of burin?, square, flat or onglete. I really would appreaciate your answer.
daries it will work with anything. Best with Square and round but any graver can be held.
Excellent explanations. Thank you!
Very good information! Thank you
Super video thank you.
Could you possibly advise what grade sharpening stone I should purchase for some 2.5mm square gravers please?
Heck, you could use the concrete on the floor. A fine stone and rougher stone should suffice.
Thank you so much for your video it is very informative " thank you.
Is there a specific bench stone to buy? What are you're personal preferences?
I'm fairly new to engraving, but not to folding knives and sharpening them. I just use the stones I use for my knives; resin bonded diamond stones, from Columbia Gorge Stone Works (CGSW).
Diamond plates work fine, but they're far inferior in longevity and precision. Resin bonded diamond stones have the benefit of a much higher concentration of diamonds (up to ~100%), and can be dressed/lapped to ensure flatness.
Diamond plates will always have their place, but there's been a ton of innovation in sharpening equipment recently and they shouldn't be considered to go-to method they once were.
Hi Mr Zuelke, love your videos please tell us about your mini lathe in the background it looks great for small metal projects what type is it, would love a video :)
Tusk Bilasimo
Looks like an Unimat
Looks like an Emco Unimat, Model SL:) I have one of those oldies. Still great.
Does the parallel graver have a heel on it too?
Yes. It’s not a parallel graver. It’s a parallel heel.
Thanks for the nice video. I have a couple of questions, what metal are gravers used for gun engraving and what metal are the actual gun gravers made of? As guns are 416R steel and it is hard. Will these type of gravers cut steel?
416 isn’t very bad to cut. It cuts quite nicely with tool steel gravers. Blued hubs are carbon steel and cut like butter. On some of the hardened steels I use carbide. The reality is that the majority of modern guns are not good canvases for engraving.
@@MasterEngraverTV Thank you so much for helping out. We are looking forward for more videos from you hopefully teaching us this beautiful craft.
Sharp tools are the best
I hope this doesn't sound dumb, but I am learning to use a power graver, can I apply the same technique to the graver's I use?
Shang Rangel gravers are gravers for the most part. What do you mean by “power graver”? I use the GRS GraverMax for all my work.
@@MasterEngraverTV well you are using stuff that you made, and said something about hammer and chisel, the graver's that I got with the foredom power graver don't look so stout compared what you are demonstrating with
The chisels I showed in this video are old die sinkers chisels and are extremely hard to find now. Most people purchase a handle from someone like GRS Tools that will accept quick change collets that hold standard square or round graver stock. All my gravers are shapes from these blank gravers. I don’t suggest trying hammer and chisel without a teacher. You’ll spend years just learning to use the tools. The Foredom tool is really only good as a hammer handpiece for jewelers. It’s not really suitable for Fine engraving. The GRS Graversmith is the most basic pneumatic assist graver I would recommend.
@@MasterEngraverTV thank you very much I finally got the graver sharpened correctly, I have no formal experience other just seeing it and believing, I am breathing, I can do do this. If you are curious to see some of my work, Rangels Art is on IG FB Twitter. I don't really know how much engraving I will actually be doing I just like knowing as much as my brain can retain
this is an amazing tutorial! I loved it! only one comment. The run out on the coarse wheel was painful to watch.
Mr. Zuelke, thank you for a great tutorial on graver sharpening. I've recently subscribed to your channel in hopes of bettering my own engraving skill set. I've a question if you've the time, please. I've found that carbide gravers help to extend times between graver geometry touch ups while engraving. I use a ceramic wheel to grind my heels, but I'm curious about your technique when applied specifically on carbide to create heels. I most commonly use a 105 carbide for my work, so your advice and thoughts would be greatly appreciated. By the way, GEAUX TIGERS! I live in Gonzales, I'd love to spend an afternoon talking if you've ever the time. Thank you in advance!
There is no difference between carbide and HSS with sharpening techniques. Ceramic with diamond spray is perfect for polishing heels if that's what you want. I rarely polish heels though because most of my work gets inked and a polished cut wont hold ink as well. I only use polished heels when I'm cutting a gun to be blued and I want cuts to sparkle.
Thank you sir!
What stones are you using? Brand
I WOULD LOVE LEARN SOME BEGINNING TECHNIQUE WITH THE GRAVE MAX?
What kind of metal are your gravers and have they been hardened or tempered at all?
I use a variety of gravers but they already come optimally hardened from the manufacturer. I use High Speed Steel, M-42 Steel, Glensteel and C-Max Carbide.
how many tools degrees?
Great video video.
Thanks you so much for video.
Hi i do engraving About 1 year And i use push gravers chisels And homemade pneumatic graver And my qestion IS in school we create large curve at the heel for rasing the graver And then tatch up the point what is the easyest repetable way to sharpen this tipe of graver?
Making a curve in the tip of the graver is not an great way to make gravers. The only reason to do this is if you were engraving inside of a bowl and needed extra lift. The heel itself provides all the lift needed. If you notice the wooden handle graver in my video has a curved tip made for cutting in bowls. You can see I sharpen it the same as any other graver.