What a GREAT video. I'm a woman and this was so clear and simple to understand. I appreciate the explanations about the whys. You are a gifted mechanic and teacher.
Perfect explanation, a very clear and concise instructional vid and exactly what I was looking for. Thank you! I’m picking up a nice SR4 with a slipping blade clutch belt and I wasn’t sure what I was in for, now I see it’s no biggie at all. Looking forward to digging into it! Edit: subscribed 👍
Great, I was given one of these and got it started right away---then no blade. Now I know how to fix it. Thanks--and not bad on the video. So many of these "how to's" are completely horrible. Yours is good and I thank you for that.
I have a newer super recycler (20383) and this video helped me out a lot. My setup was a little different, but I figured it out. My mower is running like new again. Thanks.
I think the round clutch plate that you put on in front of the blade and the blade guard actually goes in first than the blade adapter, blade, blade guard. At least thats how it goes on every other toro clutch driven mower ive ever seen.
Thanks for this! I needed to see which way the bushing went on the clutch pulley after replacing that same belt. No wonder why my engine kills, it's not free spinning with the bushing the wrong way!
@@kirkthebeerslinger I have 35 year old Hondas that never had the clutch replaced and a solid 2 speed shaft driven transaxle. Both of which still do very well on a commercial basis. I have seen too many Toros with transmission problems and that clutch is a weak point.
Great job, I have the same lawnmower. I thought I needed to make this repair, but it ended up being grass clippings packed up there. BTW, if you're not in love with that old thing, I'll give you $50 for her.
Don't take that advice when working on older Honda mowers with the G series flathead engines, same goes for mowers powered by Tecumseh engines as the muffler is on the same side as the carburettor.
Just wanted to say I bought my first lawn boy today just because of your channel. It’s a 10304 with the v series engine. I was wondering where you buy your lawn-boy parts from. I am about your age and we both seem to love old machines and fixing stuff. I’ve always loved mowing my own lawn and I own a 1978 Chevrolet C20 so I’m into cars as well. But I just wanted to say I think your channel is awesome.
This might be the nicest comment I've ever gotten. Thank you! I'm glad my tinkering has inspired someone else, that's really cool. I buy most of my LawnBoy parts on eBay and PartsTree.com. You can frequently find great deals on NOS parts on eBay. I'll be waiting for you to make some videos of your new machines!
Like your video. I am researching this mower now. Just got one going by cleaning the three holes in the jet that holds the bowl on and cleaning the bowl as a preliminary check. Could you tell me why some engines( mini bike and reel mower) run very good until you try to use them to cut grass or ride? The mini bike run very good last time I messed with it. I could lean it on the kick stand snd rev the engine just fine, but it would pull itself when lowered. The engine would bog down. I don’t think it is the clutch. The reel mower acted basically the same way. Governor? I don’t think I have check compression on either yet.
Would this make the blade slow to spool up but then spin normally and also make the bail handle less snappy or springy for lack of a better word? I have 3 of these mowers and one I just picked up is more sluggish than the other 2
I have a 20482 1997 Super Recycler. Engine runs great until I try to engage the blade and the mower dies/quits quickly. Can you help diagnose what this could be? Belt? Blade brake? Other. Thanks so much.
I have the commercial version and can’t figure mine out, the belt isn’t broken and everything turns by hand but the engine stalls when you engage the blade
Awesome video. I'm going to pickup a new toro with the blade stop soon. I was just trying to figure out if its possible to operate the self propelled drive wheels while the blade is stopped and obviously engine running. From your video it looks like it can be as the v belt for the transmission is attached deeper inside the mower than the blade belt. Am I correct on this? Thanks.
@@SpeedStik I would say look at what Honda has to offer first, it has superior transaxles and an actual blade clutch in its HRN, HRX and HRC216HYA machines. Toros tend to break down.
@@WJCTechyman This was almost two years ago and I ended up going with the Toro after checking out the Honda's in person. I liked the Honda except for the "tires" on the wheels. It was more of a hard plastic. My yard has so many steep slopes that my old AWD Husqvarna couldn't drive straight and was a nightmare. The toro has a really nice rubber tire on the wheels still. My toro drives straight on these slopes no matter which angle which is great. Also I got lucky that I saved a couple hundred bucks on it as a lawn and garden shop was shutting down and priced to sell everything.
My mechanical aptitude is great but my old body aptitude is not very good, if I tried to fix my riding mower I would probably get stuck under there! I'm sacrificed! LOL! ✌🤣
You wouldn't have this problem if you invest in a Honda. Toro mowers were sub-par in this regard. I've never understood why it designed a mower with belts--worst thing for a commercial mower like this, you said it was ingenious, I say, it was stupid. The belt system will not hold up to comercial use and will need to be replaced probably twice the mowing season. Also, you can get generic belts that fit, I had a mower similar to this, so I should know. Second serious problem is the mickey mouse brake these things use. Did you notice how much braking material was left on this machine? Probably another two years and you have to replace the potentially expensive pivot assembly. In an actual clutch like those seen on both Honda and electric blade stop systems on premium riding mowers the braking surface is hundreds of times larger area-wise compared to that Toro. Especially since other mower brands used an actual clutch like Honda, mentioned before and older John Deere mowers. Honda also has a hydrostatic trasmission on its upper models while Toro uses belt slip in the personal pace system.
Honestly, this should be “Exhibit A” for how to make the perfect TH-cam informational video. Perfect in every way.
Thank you for this video, you saved me big time for making a video on such an old machine.double thumbs up to you man.
Sure thing. Despite being old, these mowers will work pretty much forever with simple repairs. The definition of "buy it for life"
What a GREAT video. I'm a woman and this was so clear and simple to understand. I appreciate the explanations about the whys. You are a gifted mechanic and teacher.
Thanks for the kind words!
Perfect explanation, a very clear and concise instructional vid and exactly what I was looking for. Thank you! I’m picking up a nice SR4 with a slipping blade clutch belt and I wasn’t sure what I was in for, now I see it’s no biggie at all. Looking forward to digging into it! Edit: subscribed 👍
Thanks for the kind words!
There's really nothing to these mowers, pretty much any problem is an easy fix.
I like how you explained why it wasn't working instead if just saying "a belt is worn out. Replace it"
Great, I was given one of these and got it started right away---then no blade. Now I know how to fix it. Thanks--and not bad on the video. So many of these "how to's" are completely horrible. Yours is good and I thank you for that.
The blades were spinning or they were spinning And not cutting anything ?
I have a newer super recycler (20383) and this video helped me out a lot. My setup was a little different, but I figured it out. My mower is running like new again. Thanks.
I think the round clutch plate that you put on in front of the blade and the blade guard actually goes in first than the blade adapter, blade, blade guard. At least thats how it goes on every other toro clutch driven mower ive ever seen.
Thank you for this video, you saved me several hundred dollars.
Thanks for this! I needed to see which way the bushing went on the clutch pulley after replacing that same belt. No wonder why my engine kills, it's not free spinning with the bushing the wrong way!
Appreciate your detailed explanation. I just started working on one of these mowers and this is a big help!
I still have the exact same mower with this same problem.
I can't believe I spent something like $700 for this back in 1994.
Thanks for the video.
By my math-thats about $27/yr...how can you beat that???? 👍
Ya, seems like money well spent to me. That’s a mower built to last a lifetime!
@@kirkthebeerslinger I have 35 year old Hondas that never had the clutch replaced and a solid 2 speed shaft driven transaxle. Both of which still do very well on a commercial basis. I have seen too many Toros with transmission problems and that clutch is a weak point.
This is a really nicely detailed video. Thank you so much!
Great job, I have the same lawnmower. I thought I needed to make this repair, but it ended up being grass clippings packed up there. BTW, if you're not in love with that old thing, I'll give you $50 for her.
I actually passed this machine onto a friend of mine who was in need of a mower.
Looked for a while to find this,my toro has the same issue,it stops immediately when I put it on. The thin belt must be the reason. Thanks man!
If you don’t know where your muffler is, rule of thumb is to always tilt your mower with the air filter UP.
Don't take that advice when working on older Honda mowers with the G series flathead engines, same goes for mowers powered by Tecumseh engines as the muffler is on the same side as the carburettor.
Very very great explanation video thanks
Do you have a video on variable drive speed. Great video thanks
Outstanding video!
Well. You made that the easiest fix.
Thank you….
Cheers thanks. Off to replace the belt now..
Great video, thanks for taking the time to share
Thank you for the great how to video 🙏
Just wanted to say I bought my first lawn boy today just because of your channel. It’s a 10304 with the v series engine. I was wondering where you buy your lawn-boy parts from. I am about your age and we both seem to love old machines and fixing stuff. I’ve always loved mowing my own lawn and I own a 1978 Chevrolet C20 so I’m into cars as well. But I just wanted to say I think your channel is awesome.
This might be the nicest comment I've ever gotten. Thank you! I'm glad my tinkering has inspired someone else, that's really cool.
I buy most of my LawnBoy parts on eBay and PartsTree.com. You can frequently find great deals on NOS parts on eBay.
I'll be waiting for you to make some videos of your new machines!
Informative and easy to understand. Nice job.
Like your video.
I am researching this mower now. Just got one going by cleaning the three holes in the jet that holds the bowl on and cleaning the bowl as a preliminary check.
Could you tell me why some engines( mini bike and reel mower) run very good until you try to use them to cut grass or ride?
The mini bike run very good last time I messed with it.
I could lean it on the kick stand snd rev the engine just fine, but it would pull itself when lowered.
The engine would bog down. I don’t think it is the clutch.
The reel mower acted basically the same way.
Governor?
I don’t think I have check compression on either yet.
My blade randomly turns off hope this will fix it
One this model - do you have to go from under to take the drive belt off? But great video - very helpful
thanks...saved me a lot of time..
V good video,thx
can this belt work on proline comercial toro mower
I believe the Proline belt clutch is very nearly identical, so I assume so but I can't guarantee it.
The same
Would this make the blade slow to spool up but then spin normally and also make the bail handle less snappy or springy for lack of a better word? I have 3 of these mowers and one I just picked up is more sluggish than the other 2
I would suspect a sticking cable.
Is there a source you know of for just getting the riveted brake material that goes on the arm? Much appreciate your video.
Would i have to remove all that to replace the drive by as well?
I have a 20482 1997 Super Recycler. Engine runs great until I try to engage the blade and the mower dies/quits quickly. Can you help diagnose what this could be? Belt? Blade brake? Other. Thanks so much.
Clean the carburetor
Great explanation.
Nicely done
What is the piece inside the pulley?
nevermind, i replaced the idley pulley and hub pulley, works great.
I have the commercial version and can’t figure mine out, the belt isn’t broken and everything turns by hand but the engine stalls when you engage the blade
Sounds to me like the carburetor is dirty, or some other engine issue. That's usually why they stall out when you engage the blade.
Awesome video. I'm going to pickup a new toro with the blade stop soon. I was just trying to figure out if its possible to operate the self propelled drive wheels while the blade is stopped and obviously engine running. From your video it looks like it can be as the v belt for the transmission is attached deeper inside the mower than the blade belt. Am I correct on this? Thanks.
Yes! You can operate the drive while the blade is disengaged. Very handy for moving the mower from place to place.
@@Rustbelt_Research awesome thanks a lot for the confirmation.
@@SpeedStik I would say look at what Honda has to offer first, it has superior transaxles and an actual blade clutch in its HRN, HRX and HRC216HYA machines. Toros tend to break down.
@@WJCTechyman This was almost two years ago and I ended up going with the Toro after checking out the Honda's in person. I liked the Honda except for the "tires" on the wheels. It was more of a hard plastic. My yard has so many steep slopes that my old AWD Husqvarna couldn't drive straight and was a nightmare. The toro has a really nice rubber tire on the wheels still. My toro drives straight on these slopes no matter which angle which is great. Also I got lucky that I saved a couple hundred bucks on it as a lawn and garden shop was shutting down and priced to sell everything.
Hello. Can anyone say dimensions of the new belt could be?
Great video, but that pulley is wasted.
cap 10323, what are all your lawn boy 2 cycles? and how many do you have?
In my garage mostly. I don't use them very often. And I have 6, I think.
@@Rustbelt_Research what mower do you use as your dally driver?
@@josephnovotnak That LawnBoy 22243 I repowered in a previous video.
Cap...I just bought a 7263 LB. I'm down here in Canton. She runs well but blows a little blue smoke during initial startup.
Can this be fixed easily?
@@texaspete3160 That's perfectly normal, I wouldn't worry about it. It's a 2-Cycle LawnBoy, smoke is expected.
My mechanical aptitude is great but my old body aptitude is not very good, if I tried to fix my riding mower I would probably get stuck under there! I'm sacrificed! LOL! ✌🤣
You wouldn't have this problem if you invest in a Honda. Toro mowers were sub-par in this regard. I've never understood why it designed a mower with belts--worst thing for a commercial mower like this, you said it was ingenious, I say, it was stupid. The belt system will not hold up to comercial use and will need to be replaced probably twice the mowing season. Also, you can get generic belts that fit, I had a mower similar to this, so I should know. Second serious problem is the mickey mouse brake these things use. Did you notice how much braking material was left on this machine? Probably another two years and you have to replace the potentially expensive pivot assembly. In an actual clutch like those seen on both Honda and electric blade stop systems on premium riding mowers the braking surface is hundreds of times larger area-wise compared to that Toro. Especially since other mower brands used an actual clutch like Honda, mentioned before and older John Deere mowers. Honda also has a hydrostatic trasmission on its upper models while Toro uses belt slip in the personal pace system.
That’s not a commercial mower. My Toro is 10 years old with the original belt. 🤷🏻♂️