I know this is ancient, but I don't think that con for 7th gear is really valid... 1) the two 7 speed h-pattern shifted cars I'm aware of, a 911 and C7 vette, require a push down engagement. 2) The 7th gear position could be used alternatively as reverse if the driver prefers reverse to the right and up rather than on the other side 3) It just doesn't make sense to consider it a negative feature if it's not taking anything away from the shifter, which it doesn't appear to be doing.
Also, I believe the reasoning for the lockout in these cars was because 7th was considered the "fuel economy" gear and didn't have a practical intended use outside of that. Also a missed shift from 4th to 7th would suck.
Yeah but the Thrustmaster TH8A doesn't have a 7th Gear Lockout, and is also much more visually appealing and is cheaper and is Universal with all wheels on PC out of the box
Good to see you reviewing the Fanatec shifter. What i don't understand is that you test it next to the "plastic Trustmaster wheel" rather than the CSW, but I guess it has to do with sponsor contracts or something. Also nice to see you again with a co-host!! All with all a "good old ISR" review! Compliments!
i have the clubsport shifter table clamp. the picture at 2:40 is the wrong clamp. thats the clubsport WHEEL table clamp. also better to switch to sq mode by pulling lever on both sides of shifter body and the shifter is based off new 911 turbo 7 speed, according to Fanatec site
I THINK, the pushdown for the "7th" gear, is if you want to use that spot for reverse. Iver had a number of standard cars, and Ive had reverse in different places. My Audi is down and up in front of first, my old honda was in "6th", and I drove a friends Mazda(i think), and reverse was down and in "7th". So, I THINK that what thats about.
Inside Sim Racing Extras They have some sort of lock out, but not one that you have to push down. With the new Porsche gearboxes, you can only get into 7th from 6th, so you have to be 6th gear, then the block is taken off so you can put it into 7th. But at the end of the day, 7th on these cars are only there to cheat the European Emissions Tests. Bet most people wouldn't even use it
Sorry, I can't justify $200 for something that just simply changes gears.. Especailly when they sell one that does the same thing but 6 speed for a quarter of the price.
In some cases I would agree with you, but I have this shifter and a couple others. This is by far way better than my 2 previous shifters and well worth the money. Just having the ability to switch from H-pattern to sequential was one of the big selling points for me. It also feels way more realistic. When I had to use my THRS8 shifter it just wasn't the same (made it feel like a toy). My only issue is I don't think you should have to pay an extra $19 (add $12 for shipping) for the additional usb adaptor. I'm having issues with my base and I was unable to use the shifter without buying the adapter. Should have stand alone capability when purchased.
NOTHING they sell for a quarter of the price does the same thing. Their cheap shifter is a horrible feeling, loud, plastic toy that doesn't do both shifter modes.
Yes. Or you could buy a SNES and Super Mario kart. Pricey pricey Sony. Leave out the aspect of quality and everything will seem overpriced or not worth it. Let's buy crackers instead of steaks! They both will give you a full stomach.
The original message was that versus buying this shifter, he could sell his xbox (I assume he meant Xbox360), some undefined amount of games, and then he would somehow be better off buying a g27, a playstation3 and gran turismo4. Do you think that would be a good deal? I sure don't think that sounds like a good alternative to Fanatec's cheapest belt driven wheel with pedals.
This shifter isnt meant to be cheap noah, fanatecs clubsport products are premium high quality products, you cant expect something of this quality to cost the same as the csr shifters you just cannot compare those to this
***** Hey man where can I find this adapter? Will any USB adapter work? With ProjectCARS released I really want to get a G27 and then this shifter so I can use the sequential mode and take advantage of any 7 speed H-patterns that come out soon, without spending almost $1000 for the Clubsport Base and a rim, pedals, etc. Thanks!
You can get the USB adaptor from Fanatic, although I really can't recommend this shifter. It quit working in H pattern mode. It didn't even last a year. It does not work very well with the usb adaptor either. There are many post about them. These shifters are pretty problematic and the service is slow and cumbersome. I found paddle shifters to be much more effective.
to be fair, shifting position, in RACE cars, is as close at the wheel as possible, to reduce hand movements to the minimum. so, ok for the cable is too short, but realistically-wise is not wrong.
17:33: i believe that the 7th speed is probably not really for cars but rather for... trucks. Trucking sims are a thing after all, and that crowd would need it.
I know the C7 and the new 911 have 7-speed h-pattern shifters, but I had to google the lockout. Turns out that the 911 has 7th gear lockout and the C7 doesn't. I hear that 7th in a 911 is a really tall overdrive, so perhaps lockout was added to prevent potential stalling if you went from 4th to 7th; that would be a pretty significant rpm drop.. (googled again. 4th's ratio is 1.30:1 and 7th's is 0.71:1 which is a CRAZY difference if you're shifting at normal driving speeds)
One of the Ford escorts in Dirt Rally have a seven speed, but i wonder how frustrating it would be to put into 7th reliably? Does anyone have one? Is it something that you’ll get used to or is it just always annoying
Hey, have you guys found out if the connecter cable is a 'simple' phone cable? Would be highly appreciated if you guys knew, thinking of buying one but the length of the cable is a massive drawback.
It's not a simple phone cable. It uses a 6 pin rj12 connector. The pin out is reversed from a normal cable. I couldn't find one anywhere besides Fanatec so I made my own and it works fine.
Hi guys, looks like a neat little piece of hardware... Could you tell me the kind of "button boards" you are using, left and right of the wheel? (brand and model essentially)
Am I missing something stupid here or is mine defective? I hooked it up directly to the PC with their adapter. The shifter does absolutely nothing, while trying to calibrate in iracing it does not recognize any of the shift points for seq or man.
+random user I figured it out. Seems that you need to install older drivers first, then install the new ones. Here is the link to the older drivers www.fanatec.com/download/Fanatec_64bit_driver_177.zip
Just on the short cable mounting comment made - as you can see some cars have the shifter very close to the wheel i.e V8 super car resources0.news.com.au/images/2013/02/06/1226571/612120-greg-murphy-holden-racing-team.jpg
Hi Darin, do you know anywhere I could get a cheapish G27 as my old wheel broke on me and now I have a budget of around £170. It seems to be hard to find a cheap one in the uk
Hi guys great review. Perhaps the 7th gear is not just for cars that use a 7th gear but it gives you the option of having the reverse on either side of this shifter. Just a thought.
Will fanatec make a wheel for xbox one? Been waiting for some time now, and might just get thrustmaster. Are there other wheels for xbox one worth mentioning?
Inside Sim Racing Thanks! I just hope they release one as good if not better than their current wheel, and soon. Wonder if they will make it the official Project Cars wheel that will work with forza also. In any case I'm sure a lot of us can't wait an longer for it to be released. The rest are pissed off that their wheels don't work with new consoles.
what a stupid cable discussion, unbelievable, how many people need 1245foot long cable?? why should they provide that long cables and 90% dont use them.if you need that long usb cable, go buy it for some bucks.
Because for $200, an extra couple feet in the cable should be included. How about constructive criticism versus using "stupid" and "unbelievable" in your comment ?
yes Darin, you are right, like always,they should include 10m cable which 90% will not use. and you need to install drivers when using standalone adapter.maybe you had this already on your pc.
TheFaro06 I didn't say I was right.. It's my opinion. How would you know that 90% wouldn't need a longer cable ? I didn't have drivers installed and as a matter of fact, just did a format and the shifter is STILL recognized and I haven't installed a Fanatec driver. This time, I'm saying I'm right. Talk about stupid discussion......
Inside Sim Racing I would need a longer cable to plug it into my wheel on my rig. And the long cable with the usb adapter may not reach either being that my pc is on the other side of my rig.
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The new Corvette C7 uses a 7 speed H-Pattern! :D
There is also on the newer Porsche like the 911.
Jonas Chen Ah not really a fan of Porsche's :/
Ispharel Racing I don't think that was the point o.O
Ch1Frequency Just stating that I don't really like Porsche's xD
Me neither.
11:00 for how it actually feels. You're welcome.
Thanks mate
The current Porsche 911 (991 Generation) has a 7 speed h-pattern box
Porsche 991 also has a 7 speed H-Pattern....
I know this is ancient, but I don't think that con for 7th gear is really valid...
1) the two 7 speed h-pattern shifted cars I'm aware of, a 911 and C7 vette, require a push down engagement.
2) The 7th gear position could be used alternatively as reverse if the driver prefers reverse to the right and up rather than on the other side
3) It just doesn't make sense to consider it a negative feature if it's not taking anything away from the shifter, which it doesn't appear to be doing.
Also, I believe the reasoning for the lockout in these cars was because 7th was considered the "fuel economy" gear and didn't have a practical intended use outside of that. Also a missed shift from 4th to 7th would suck.
you are right and the club sport series is all based off of porsche 911 series stuff, and the clubsport rs has a 7 speed
Yeah but the Thrustmaster TH8A doesn't have a 7th Gear Lockout, and is also much more visually appealing and is cheaper and is Universal with all wheels on PC out of the box
@@coastaku1954 as a user of a TH8A I often wish it had a 7th gear lockout
@@ValentineC137 Why? It doesn't bother me, a 7th gear lock out would just slow me down
2012 911 has a 7 speed h pattern option. Also, GM had a few 4+3 corvette transmission options.
instaled it on my rig using DEEZ NUTS
Good to see you reviewing the Fanatec shifter. What i don't understand is that you test it next to the "plastic Trustmaster wheel" rather than the CSW, but I guess it has to do with sponsor contracts or something. Also nice to see you again with a co-host!!
All with all a "good old ISR" review! Compliments!
I prefer that "Plastic Thrustmaster wheel "to the CSW. The BMW rim in my opinion is too big.
i have the clubsport shifter table clamp. the picture at 2:40 is the wrong clamp. thats the clubsport WHEEL table clamp.
also better to switch to sq mode by pulling lever on both sides of shifter body
and the shifter is based off new 911 turbo 7 speed, according to Fanatec site
I THINK, the pushdown for the "7th" gear, is if you want to use that spot for reverse. Iver had a number of standard cars, and Ive had reverse in different places. My Audi is down and up in front of first, my old honda was in "6th", and I drove a friends Mazda(i think), and reverse was down and in "7th".
So, I THINK that what thats about.
Most modern Porsches are 7spd H-Pattern, for future reference.
all 991 gen's with the manual option. Yes.
Do they also have that 7th push down lockout? - Jason
Inside Sim Racing Extras as far as I know yes. But I can't swear on it, cause I have only driven the PDK so far.
Inside Sim Racing Extras Well what I think is that it also gives you the possibility to map your reverse to either left or right should you wish so.
Inside Sim Racing Extras They have some sort of lock out, but not one that you have to push down. With the new Porsche gearboxes, you can only get into 7th from 6th, so you have to be 6th gear, then the block is taken off so you can put it into 7th. But at the end of the day, 7th on these cars are only there to cheat the European Emissions Tests. Bet most people wouldn't even use it
If someone hasn't already mentioned this already, the new C7 Stingray and 991 Carrera (base and S) all have 7 speed H-pattern gearboxes as standard.
Finally got mine today. I ordered it back in early June.
2014 c7 Stingray uses a 7 speed h pattern shifter, pretty sure a dodge viper does now too
The new Corvette uses the seven speed and the new Viper uses a six speed like it always has.
My 1,500HP TT 787B has a 7 speed H shifter. LOL
On fanatec's site it says that the shifter is inspired by those in porsche 911's, hence the 7 speed manual with the lockout
Too expensive, plus not all accessories are included.
Sorry, I can't justify $200 for something that just simply changes gears..
Especailly when they sell one that does the same thing but 6 speed for a quarter of the price.
In some cases I would agree with you, but I have this shifter and a couple others. This is by far way better than my 2 previous shifters and well worth the money. Just having the ability to switch from H-pattern to sequential was one of the big selling points for me. It also feels way more realistic. When I had to use my THRS8 shifter it just wasn't the same (made it feel like a toy). My only issue is I don't think you should have to pay an extra $19 (add $12 for shipping) for the additional usb adaptor. I'm having issues with my base and I was unable to use the shifter without buying the adapter. Should have stand alone capability when purchased.
NOTHING they sell for a quarter of the price does the same thing. Their cheap shifter is a horrible feeling, loud, plastic toy that doesn't do both shifter modes.
rolls royce ghost
can you throw the shift knob at someone in order to "end them rightly"?
I could sell my Xbox and all my games then buy a ps3 and gt6, then with the $200 this shifter cost...buy a g27...
Pricey pricey Fanatec
Yes. Or you could buy a SNES and Super Mario kart. Pricey pricey Sony. Leave out the aspect of quality and everything will seem overpriced or not worth it. Let's buy crackers instead of steaks! They both will give you a full stomach.
The original message was that versus buying this shifter, he could sell his xbox (I assume he meant Xbox360), some undefined amount of games, and then he would somehow be better off buying a g27, a playstation3 and gran turismo4. Do you think that would be a good deal? I sure don't think that sounds like a good alternative to Fanatec's cheapest belt driven wheel with pedals.
This shifter isnt meant to be cheap noah, fanatecs clubsport products are premium high quality products, you cant expect something of this quality to cost the same as the csr shifters you just cannot compare those to this
Well of course, consoles have no value.
Can i use this kind of "extra" things with a g27? :)
I'm using it now with my G25, but you have to buy $19 usb adapter.
***** on PC or on PS3?
atheosxgaming I'm using it with PC. I believe you have to have the CSW base for PS3 to use the shifter but I don't wanna state that for sure.
***** Hey man where can I find this adapter? Will any USB adapter work? With ProjectCARS released I really want to get a G27 and then this shifter so I can use the sequential mode and take advantage of any 7 speed H-patterns that come out soon, without spending almost $1000 for the Clubsport Base and a rim, pedals, etc. Thanks!
You can get the USB adaptor from Fanatic, although I really can't recommend this shifter. It quit working in H pattern mode. It didn't even last a year. It does not work very well with the usb adaptor either. There are many post about them. These shifters are pretty problematic and the service is slow and cumbersome. I found paddle shifters to be much more effective.
hey! will this work on prosimu Simulator T1000 2 motion?
Both Lotus 49 and 79 use H-Pattern gear boxes. As does The Ferrari 312T in AC. Most older F1 cars use h-pattern gear boxes
The new 911 manual have 7 speed H-Pattern
Thomas gave up on Xboxone so therefore I gave up on Fanatec. Secondly, why is this shifter so damn big? Its huge compared to it competitors
Can I use this shifter with Logitech G29 on the PS4?
No. On PS4 it must be plugged into a Fanatec wheel base.
to be fair, shifting position, in RACE cars, is as close at the wheel as possible, to reduce hand movements to the minimum. so, ok for the cable is too short, but realistically-wise is not wrong.
Porsche may have a 7 speed H pattern but who has the Porsche license? EA? Does Need for Speed have clutch support?
17:33: i believe that the 7th speed is probably not really for cars but rather for... trucks. Trucking sims are a thing after all, and that crowd would need it.
That's closed cell foam, Darin, not Styro.
I wonder if I could hard mount this to the shifter plate on my GT Omega Pro...hmmm
my old bmw has 5-speed manual and it uses both reverse lockout and 5th gear lockout
I know the C7 and the new 911 have 7-speed h-pattern shifters, but I had to google the lockout. Turns out that the 911 has 7th gear lockout and the C7 doesn't.
I hear that 7th in a 911 is a really tall overdrive, so perhaps lockout was added to prevent potential stalling if you went from 4th to 7th; that would be a pretty significant rpm drop.. (googled again. 4th's ratio is 1.30:1 and 7th's is 0.71:1 which is a CRAZY difference if you're shifting at normal driving speeds)
Buy th8a shifter cheaper and very reliable
cool adien61 no
Every single v12 swapped racing transmission car in forza
The Bugatti Veyron also has 7 speeds, but it uses paddle shifters.
The 991 Porsche Carrera has an optional 7spd manual
The 7 speed gated lockout was one of the reassons i purchased it tbh.
I play Dirt Rally a lot, can this baby use as handbrake?
Shameless plug: I have one of these on ebay right now, v1.5, starting bid of $100. Just search ebay for it.
One of the Ford escorts in Dirt Rally have a seven speed, but i wonder how frustrating it would be to put into 7th reliably? Does anyone have one? Is it something that you’ll get used to or is it just always annoying
Hey, have you guys found out if the connecter cable is a 'simple' phone cable? Would be highly appreciated if you guys knew, thinking of buying one but the length of the cable is a massive drawback.
It's not a simple phone cable. It uses a 6 pin rj12 connector. The pin out is reversed from a normal cable. I couldn't find one anywhere besides Fanatec so I made my own and it works fine.
Would this shifter work on a fanatec csr wheel ?
there is a Bentley that uses a 7 speed H patten but thats not for racing its more for smooth driving but yeah thats one.
The 2014 C7 corvette is a 7-speed
heh :/ wobbly stick is a big deal. Why would that even be a thing ?
Great video. Very informative. Subbed.
Hi guys, looks like a neat little piece of hardware...
Could you tell me the kind of "button boards" you are using, left and right of the wheel? (brand and model essentially)
Derek Speare Designs. One is a Race King (left) and the other I'm not sure.. Both you can get here www.derekspearedesigns.com
Chevrolet corvette uses 7 speed H pattern shifter
Am I missing something stupid here or is mine defective?
I hooked it up directly to the PC with their adapter. The shifter does absolutely nothing, while trying to calibrate in iracing it does not recognize any of the shift points for seq or man.
+random user I figured it out. Seems that you need to install older drivers first, then install the new ones. Here is the link to the older drivers
www.fanatec.com/download/Fanatec_64bit_driver_177.zip
do i need the software on a fanatec wheel base on xbox one
pls help
991 Gen Porsche 911s use a seven speed manual 'box
Just on the short cable mounting comment made - as you can see some cars have the shifter very close to the wheel i.e V8 super car
resources0.news.com.au/images/2013/02/06/1226571/612120-greg-murphy-holden-racing-team.jpg
Yeah and a lot of Rally cars do to. Thought of that after also. - Jason
the new 2014 corvette stingray is a 7 speed manual
We found out a recent 911 Porsche is too after filming this :-)
its so loud it is borderline unusable for me. If I even THINK about changing gear on it then next door's baby starts crying
Porsche Carrera has a 7 speed Manuel option.
Good review, great :)
Thanks
Hi inside sim racing i asked santa for a thrustmaster tmx xbox one wheel just wondering if this shifter would be compatible with it
the car that using 7 speed is a porsche 911
Hi Darin, do you know anywhere I could get a cheapish G27 as my old wheel broke on me and now I have a budget of around £170. It seems to be hard to find a cheap one in the uk
Sorry I don't.. You can try coming to our forums and posting in our Buy / Sell section. www.isrtv.com/forums/forum/37-sim-gear-buy-sell/
C7 vettes are 7-spd H pattern
Hi guys great review. Perhaps the 7th gear is not just for cars that use a 7th gear but it gives you the option of having the reverse on either side of this shifter. Just a thought.
Most manual sport cars have 7 gears like the c7 corvettes or the hellcats the charger and challenger or the new Porsches
*IT FUCKING KICKS ASS*
magzire So why not supply us with a link to your really awesome show?
***** what? I like this show. Was making a joke about the curse in the video
Relax bro
magzire We didn't drop an F bomb in it...
magzire I apologize for the sarcasm. I misunderstood the comment and thought you were putting them down. I'll keep my mouth shut from now on.
Inside Sim Racing 07:25 sounds like it :)
they really like taking money off you huh, extra money for a clamp? Jeez
I saw many comments about the 7 speed H patterns and I have my own addition, the Renault Megane F2 and maybe more F2 spec cars.
Porsche panamera has a 7 manual
will it work properly with the xbox 360 fanatec csr
When did Cenk get in to racing?
991 Carrera and C7 Stingray ... but yes, not that many
25-30% of this video is just random babbling.
The new corvette has 7 gears, and it is manual
Will fanatec make a wheel for xbox one? Been waiting for some time now, and might just get thrustmaster. Are there other wheels for xbox one worth mentioning?
This should answer your question.. www.fanatec.com/forum/categories/blog
Inside Sim Racing Thanks! I just hope they release one as good if not better than their current wheel, and soon. Wonder if they will make it the official Project Cars wheel that will work with forza also. In any case I'm sure a lot of us can't wait an longer for it to be released. The rest are pissed off that their wheels don't work with new consoles.
The 994 porsche 911 has a h-pattern 7 speed manual gearbox.
what a stupid cable discussion, unbelievable, how many people need 1245foot long cable?? why should they provide that long cables and 90% dont use them.if you need that long usb cable, go buy it for some bucks.
Because for $200, an extra couple feet in the cable should be included. How about constructive criticism versus using "stupid" and "unbelievable" in your comment ?
yes Darin, you are right, like always,they should include 10m cable which 90% will not use. and you need to install drivers when using standalone adapter.maybe you had this already on your pc.
TheFaro06 I didn't say I was right.. It's my opinion. How would you know that 90% wouldn't need a longer cable ? I didn't have drivers installed and as a matter of fact, just did a format and the shifter is STILL recognized and I haven't installed a Fanatec driver. This time, I'm saying I'm right. Talk about stupid discussion......
Inside Sim Racing I would need a longer cable to plug it into my wheel on my rig. And the long cable with the usb adapter may not reach either being that my
pc is on the other side of my rig.
this host is just the worst
C7 Vette and Porsche have 7 speed manuals.
Corvette C7 Stingray and the Porsche 911 Carrera S
THE CORVETTE HAS A 7 speed MANUAL STICK SHIFT YO
911 and c7 corvette
7:27 fucking kicks ass
Their site says v1.5, is this that one or an earlier version?
Which cockpit is that? Thanks
Custom made using 80-20 extrusion tubing.
Inside Sim Racing Thanks need to say great review,
Porsche 911, c7 corvette
classic f1 cars uses 7pattern shift
I was wondering i wanna upgrade my g27 shifter to clubsport shifter but is there any other shifters tha might be better
thrustmaster th8rs
The escort in DiRT Rally is 7 gears
New Porsche 911 has 7 speed H pattern
Porche 911turbo
well its good but cost a lost ! good review
If it isn't mentioned, Bugatti Veyron uses 7 speed, at least it does in Forza.
Not a manual H-pattern tho..
It's an automatic? Well, the more I know. ;P
Marius Modalen Most supercars use Dual Clutch Transmissions. Basically a manual transmission but still auto. Search for it and youll see ;)
991 911's have a 7 speed manual option
porsche 911 has a 7 speed so does the c7
Are there also mounting points on the right side to allow you to mount it on your left?
Yes, there are two slots on each side to insert the nuts.
Thanks :-)
Mike Dawkins
You're welcome, and thanks for subscribing. ;)
The new corvette has a 7 speed gearbox
Corvette c7 have a 7-pattern h shifter ;)
A Mclearn has a seven speed manual
The lotus also uses the H-pattern shifter
Hi! Could anyone tell me what the steelbars are called, that the rig used in this video are built of?
Many thanks!
Xpower 80 20 tubing
Thanks for your quick answer Darin, great stuff! Got to get started with my build :)