Yeah, kind of annoying to alot of people watching cause "Why bother, we can't buy any of them anyway!!!!". Still see that comment in the comment section of every other channel.
@@kognak6640 when I bought my gigabyte 3070 for £580 I sold my Sapphire 5600 for 300. Bargain. Admittedly you could sell a 5600xt for closer to 500 a few months later...
Oh the prices will go down that will happen just need a major recession or depression and that will happen some day but until then were pretty much screwed, and no one wants another recession/depression everyone looses.
@@artiew8718 If 2022-2023 are bad years for the economy then prices will drop as demand will drop for the cards...... so I will buy 10 and horde them for the next mining boom.
Powercolor really nailed it with 6000 series cards. Hellhound cards are also one of the cheapest! XFX did great with 6700/6800 cards, but could've been better with 6600... Gigabyte... well... avoid. Same for Rog, they should be the best to justify the price, and when they are beaten by the "budget" hellhound it's just... shameful.
the 2000RPM of the Asus is just ridiculous. With 55°C edge, than fans should spin way slower. I guess Asus wants to be "the best" 6600XT by having the highest boost clocks. But that is just stupid.
Yeah gigabyte failed on this 6600xt. I got their 5600xt triple fan version and its amazing. Got it from hardware unboxed recommendation and have been very happy with it for a over a year now. That thing runs cool and quiet. Just shows you when something gets overlooked how far you can fall out of grace.
yeah the hellhound is a bit of a weapon gpu i just brought a 6700xt spectral white hellhound for a intel build.. i was truly surprised that the 6600xt hellhound and red devil was giving a rog strix a run not to mention at last price check the strix was $950 and the devil and hound are $800 for the devil and $779 for the hound .. shame the merc didnt do better in the thermals its a bit of a beast looking 6600xt using the 3 fans!!
@@andyastrand nothings at MSRP the way i look at it buy what you can afford / something that suits your needs ,dont pay scalper prices and enjoy your purchase.. personally i think the prices are never going to get back to a normal state this will go on till late 2022 early 2023 and with the chatter around thats next gen so there prices will stay the same!!
@@Florinel21 it shouldn't be "weak" or weaker than the other 6600s, the only real difference between vendors is how they handle the cooling (and sometimes they overclock a bit, but it doesn't matter that much in terms of fps)
Steve is completely correct on the MSI Gaming X. I got this one, as it was the one in stock when I walked into the store, and I'm more than thrilled at the performance. It's practically a passively cooled card, as the fans only come on under heavy gaming. And when they do, they're silent. I can't hear the card over my Lian Li case fans. Definitely a recommendation from me
@@garbuckle3000 Yes the Gaming is the best cooled 6600XT card. If you do OC than change the Power Limit in the bios from max +4% to +20% like all the other 6600XT customs have. I wonder why MSi limited to +4% by default?! When the cooling of their card is descent! I paid 480 Euro. But i sold my old Polaris RX 570 8Gb for 280 Euro. I more than doubled my performance. So not a bad deal, exspecially if you want to play WQHD on High or Ultra Settings. OC it for WQHD!
The first chart tells us all we need to know about the Biostar card: fans spinning stupidly fast & it's still the hottest card! Thanks for all the work 👍
Probably an unpopular opinion : I would LOVE to see this extend to the higher end models as eventually they will be affordable and I have no idea which 6800xt or 3080 model to buy when that’s possible!
Thanks!! Great info. I'm finally getting back into the market. I was leaning toward a 3 fan setup but was surprised to not see a dramatic difference between the 2 fans. Thanks for the testing!
@@AdaaDK lots of cards have coil whine. My 5700XT Red Devil has coil whine under high load, but it's actually normal for many cards to have it due to the power draw.
Not all, there was a powercolor 5600xt model that had some bios problems according to GN but that was because they had to change the bios last minute before launch, the build quality was good anyway
@@AdaaDK coil whine, in my experience, has two easy fixes: 1) make sure you're using a properly grounded wall plug. 2) Don't push 500FPS... seriously, nothing can make a card whine it's tits off like stupid frame rates. That being said, sometimes an inductor doesn't have proper contact with the PCB, in which case there is just nothing you can do but RMA the card. This is generally not model or maker specific though.
Thanks for making this! I am building a few gaming PCs to sell and this was good info as the 6600xt has some availability. Also helped having your review video vs the 3060 and 3060ti. Thanks!
@METhOdhowtoKilLnoObS he means the brand name. Power color was once Biostar. A company with no reputation, but after a few years people began to trust them.
Their 5700XT Red Devil got all the rave reviews too. My buddy has one and is loving it to bits. Slight undervolt got it to clock to the moon, and it is whisper quiet.
Powercolor have been a proper mainstream brand for decades, maybe they just didn't have a good distribution channel in your area.. All my cards have been Powercolor starting with my first card from them, which was the venerable 9600 XT, followed by an X800 Pro, X1950 XT, 3780, 4870, 7870 and a RX 580.. they might not have been the fanciest but you could rely on them being a company that only did ATi/AMD cards 👍
Always been Sapphire (AMD) or ASUS (Nvidia) guy myself. Powercolor have always been a boring name to me, like biostar or msi, remember their ASUS 280x ripoff design, Sapphire Toxic won my hear easely, and it served me well. But the Red Devil Performance/Branding/Design with the 6750XT was just an absolute no-brainer, HAD to have it! Defenetly worthy of replaceing my 1070 strix
Smaller fans move less air and make more noise, this usually ends up the case in my experience. 3x100mm > 2x100mm > 3x80mm for thermals and noise. Of course heatsink mass, material and placement influence this a lot but yeah... Often triple 80mm designs end up being louder and hotter
I have the Eagle version of the Gigabyte card. It has 2 HDMI and 2 DP connectors. From what I can tell it has an additional heat pipe and a cut out on the aluminum back plate for blow through. The only issue I have is the fans are LOUD at max speed. Almost hitting 5000rpm. The card rarely even gets to 45% fan speed on its own though. Also it does not have dual bios.
Thanks Steve, was hoping to start seeing some AIB reviews!! Love to see more PLEASE!! Drives me crazy that all of the "why review something you can't buy" Haters have scared off a lot of Reviewers from testing this Generation of Cards!! Cards have been available at times and even at a decent price at times, but not for very long, which makes having seen Good Quality Reviews like this more important than ever nowadays!!! To know which ones are Good and which are Crap when you do get the chance to buy one seems something that has escaped some potential buyers out there!! Thanks again Steve!! Cheers! 🍻👍😎
@@davidfoote696 Those biostar gpu might still meet the standard, where the standard is the absolute limit for the card to run at stock. Don't you remember AMD put a single fan blower on a 270w Vega 64? Only the others had been in the industry long enough, their basic card becomes very good compair to the standard.
Upgraded to a XFX MERC 308 6600xt from EVGA 1070 SC2 and I'm really impressed with XFX. It's absolutely silent and the Temps are much lower than yours for some reason. I haven't seen the Hotspot go over 60 and the Edge go over 52 and build quality is really good too.
Who else likes the videos before they even watch them? I like them before I watch them because Steve and Tim are just awesome! Keep up the hard work guys, love the content!
I got my self red devil 🙂 I sold my 5700xt and bought 6600xt and while it sounds dumb at the first glance I made 180$ on that. Further more I sold reference 5700xt with 1 year warranty remaining and got 6600xt red devil brand new with 3 year warranty, since they preform practically the same it was ni brainer to go for it
Sapphire rx 6600 xt Nitro+ was nothing but problems for me. Wish I could have figured it out. All it gave was black screens when installing AMD drivers. Only would show the desktop in safe mode and when there was no drivers installed. I was told it was RAM but any test came up zero errors. Tried with single stick, did mobo BIOS update, updated mobo chipset drivers, swapped PSU cables, nothing worked and got zero help other than "buy new ram or buy a new mobo (lol)" so had to send the card back. I really did not want to reinstall windows just to get my GPU to work, found that ridiculous to go through those hoops. Now stuck on what the hell to get because I concerned it will happen with any RX 6600 XT or newer card I purchase... Upgrading from RX 580, which works flawless w/my rig (R% 2600x, Asus Strix B350 mobo, 16GB GEIL super Luce ram, 650w PSU)
Given the size and girth of the cooler, I'm a little shocked at the temps you observed with the XFX model. Is there perhaps a paste problem with that one? Or are the fan curves not well tuned? Or did XFX really miss the mark?
@@ripe8973 Yea, the fines aren't as wide and there are some pretty big gaps between the sections (unlike the gigabyte one... So quite possibly not enough surface area overall. Does looks like the thermal paste was fine as well, so I'll rule that out. Perhaps a non-flat base plate... I know temps are good, but I still would have thought it would have been among the top performers here, not one of the worst - that's why I'm shocked. Well, looks aren't everything. :-)
I actually purchased the powercolor hellhound from Microcenter in the United States. My particular card had issues like freezing my system, making my system reboot. Pretty much spent a week or two troubleshooting because I wanted the card to work and Microcenter didn’t have any more in stock. This past Monday (Labor Day in the USA), Microcenter near me got stock of more rx 6600xt cards. When I arrived they did have the powercolor cards but for a little more they had a single asus dual model, the one they couldn’t review. The asus dual does not seem to have a dual bios or led lights, but it is a bit bigger than the hellhound and is about 2.5 slots thick. And in my case, the card works! My pc is now stable again. I’ve seen my card idle as low as 29 C. Edit, I should note that I reached out to powercolor support who tried to be helpful and they offered an rma, but since I was with my return window, when Microcenter had cards come in stock, I got there less than 5 minutes after they opened to exchange the card rather than wait for rma which could have taken up to 14 business days.
Same with my XFX Merc 6600xt. I bet it's something to do with the drivers. I had to remove the drivers with DDU twice. To make the system stable again. I previous had a vega 56 in it. Sold it for a handsome profit. 😆
@@gregtay67 I’m not sure. After I returned the powercolor card to be honest I don’t think I removed drivers. Just when I installed the asus card I’ve had no issues since.
In the UK currently the range is £449-499 for the cards in this review. They have been creeping up this week in price. They are currently the best price/performance for a new GPU in the UK. The 3060Ti is the next card to consider if one drops at the right price. (couple in stock at £599 at time of this comment)
No Sapphire Nitro+ tested :/ Bought this one via the NewEgg Shuffle at launch and it screams... 10% +/- faster than my old Gigabyte 5700 XT, and it runs cooler and burns fewer watts. /Fully recommend it
What do you mean by it screams? I have one as well and mine makes an audible grinding noise as soon as the fans start spinning. It is not awefully loud, but I cannot bring this card down to the noise level of my former RX 570 Nitro+ and Vega 56 Pulse. And all these cards were used when I bought them. To be honest, in my personal opinion the fan quality of Sapphire decreased. I never had to do anything with the RX 570, but I had to disassemble and oil the Vega 56 fans several times until their noise was almost gone - only very little left. Now with my brand new RX 6600 XT Nitro+ I again have trouble with the fans. I am now waiting for replacement fans to arrive for 4 weeks. Luckily the Sapphire support or more helpful than the retailer "Mindfactory" who tried to RMA my whole card. Worst support ever.
@@santiagomurillo7551 thanks for the information. Where did you get that from? Do you have access to both cards to compare them or did you come to that conclusion by looking at pictures?
@@WCIIIReiniger Yeah, I sold both cards and they almost weight the same. The thermal difference was minimal, very dissapointed, i was expecting better performance
Another amazing video I'm on the fence about getting one of these honestly just because I'm impatient. But on another note I did just get my t-shirt from you guys and I love it thanks from the US.
ironically slap a decent heatsink on it and it's not too bad a card, they literally gimped the card by giving it a cheapo shite HS. talk about big oof.
@@marksemple297 Yeah such an obvious fail, especially for a company that I see for the first time break into new market, I believe they used to make mostly motherboards for server use, then they enter consumer gaming GPU market and already make bad image of themselves. Heck they should make it good and cheap, with 0 profit purely for convincing new market to them.
I think Boistar is going for the mining crowd tbh. Running at 50% power dosent require beefy heatskinks, and they wont care abt noise. They are selling insane mining mobos here in asia, and we all know it.
@@相馬光好 I'm a miner and I don't think I would buy this card, resale aspect is also another thing, decent card will sell much quicker for more to gamers. Also if they messed up main silicon cooling, memory cooling might be bad as well, and that is important for mining.
Hi Steve! I just want to say thank you, to you and Tim ofc, always great content and fun to watch but also very informative. Has helped me a dozen time to choose the right items for my customer, I work in retail over in 🇸🇪. Have a great one!
@@Dr.WhetFarts Fair enough, hang in there then. Took the plunge myself and got the XFX SWFT 210 (as it fits in my ITX build) as I was able to sell my year old 1660 Super for almost twice what I paid for it and cover 85% of the new card that's a substantial upgrade over the 1660.
@@ElijsDima I managed to sell my 1660 on Monday and the 6600 was delivered on Wednesday. Worked out in the end, I was worried the supplier would run out of stock and usually when the restock the priced seems to go up so I took a gamble that worked out. Very happy with the new card.
To answer the question at 4:10 ish it's all about grabbing eyes while sitting on the shelf. That's why so many boxes for retail products are so big. That and the illusion of getting more for the money.
Yeah for sure, though you have to wonder if it's worth the added shipping costs these days. Especially given I have to imagine the vast majority of graphics cards sold were purchased online in 2021.
@@Hardwareunboxed I completely agree. Do they really think people pick the GPU they want to buy off the shelf based on what the box looks like on the shelf? Don't their marketing people know people actually buy the GPU based on Hardware Unboxed reviews? Great vid, just a bummer you didn't include the Nitro+ as I like the brand in general but their Pulse is a bit underperforming as the budget model.
We do know that this was the reason for it to be done starting many, many decades ago when there was no such thing as online retail. The question is why are manufacturer's product marketing teams still insisting on doing it when the vast majority of revenue is driven through online sales where packaging size is irrelevant. I haven't set foot in a computer hardware shop (or other industry-adjacent shop that happens to stock those lines) in decades, not that there are actually any within a reasonable driving time should I actually want to.
@@EvernooBE > Do they really think people pick the GPU they want to buy off the shelf based on what the box looks like on the shelf? Maybe 2 decades ago. Last decade or so, most people buying the cards will most likely buy them online, and check reviews from customers and reviewers alike. Especially since there can be such a wide gap in performance between the "same" cards. Though I do understand how some people will just get the first card that's in stock, regardless how good it is compared to the rest, just because they need or want a card. Blink, and it's gone.
The Hellhound is just beautiful. I love its minimalistic design, compact size, and attention to details (They have backplate made out of aluminium and they used nickel-plated copper heatpipes instead of just just copper). Plus, it performs well and the price is cheap, too.
@METhOdhowtoKilLnoObS Compared to the Strix which it handily beat. So yes, it's cheap by comparison. And here in Denmark it is in stock at only 10% over MSRP.
I have the Gigabyte 6600 XT and honestly I'm surprised it didn't rank better, under intense gaming sessions I've never seen it go over 54-56 degrees celsius. I do have it vertically mounted and paired with a i3-10100f so it's defenitly not as hungry as that system, but it runs fantastic :D, at least it's not a Biostar.
Again PowerColor is solid. Now I'm curious to see if the PowerColor Fighter 6600XT is up there with the Hellhound. It is a good tad cheaper where I live, so if you get it in, please do share the results :D
Me too! The price of a Power Color 5700xt was actually cut and I wasn't sure what to get, the 5600xt or 5700xt .. deciding to wait for Zen3/RDNA2 was an expensive decision. It was already clear that Nvidia had some issues supplying RTX when Zen3 was announced.
The fins on the Hell Hound are Horizontal like a Sapphire Nitro+ and Pulse cards. The Red Devils are VerticaI. Also the MSI has 4 heat pipes, not 3. Not pointing out error corrections, just honest mistakes. I can get the Red Devil 6600XT for $500usd. That sounds not to 💩. I seen a 1050ti for $300 and right next to it was a $400 eVGA XC 3060. Yes, i got a 3060 for $400usd. Yesterday.
...and the Gigabyte also has a slightly different output configuration than the rest, with two HDMI and two DisplayPort. But these things were at least easy to spot in the video footage.
Just got the red devil second hand, and I feel I need to repaste and replace the thermal pads as its going up to 70 degrees gpu temp and 100 degrees (gpu hotspot) during steel nomad stress test. I think the settings were 1080p extreme. Do you know the thickness of the thermal pads? thanks man
There's no stock in Australia but given they don't respect the independent review process or their customers, I'd be hesitant to invest in Asrock products.
Would it make sense to do a similar comparison to a set of RX 6800 XT models? I was actually surprised to see the 6600 XT Gaming X Trio doing so well in this video.
Rather they don't want to be subjected to negative reviews, due to how exigent these guys are. The 'Dual' and "Ventus" got crappier coolers and no metal backplates, usually.
The MSI Mech and the Asus Dual have awul coolers. The temps are in range (but higher than Gaming and Strix), but they are very loud. Gaming and Strix are therefore better for OC. And 6600XT is a good OC! The MSI Gaming is a ultra silent and high performance cooler card! Well done
As previously stated in you other presentation regarding the 6600XT's, here in the UK the average price for the 6600XT is around £450.00 and 11 different models to choose from. (I bought a MSI RX6600XT Gaming X a couple of weeks ago for £449.00 with Delivery and Taxes Included. Pre Tax was £366.66). The 3060 is on average £620.00 including Tax with 10+ different models available. Thanks..... Bill, (UK).
@@makiwa I was looking into this one with Ryen 5 5600x but I`m worried about that my PSU won`t be powerful enough... CV550W 80+ Bronze What do you think?
Watching this videos makes me feel good about my PowerColor RX 6600 XT Red Devil purchase. In my country (Argentina), it was the cheapest of the 6600 XT series and all in all, it performs very well, more than enough for 1080. I still don't understand why people get upset about this card, I know that prices vary very much from country to country but if you can get one of these for a good price, I don't know what can beat it (Michael Jackson singing the Chorus of the song lol). It's just way too good *For its price*.
@@silverwerewolf975 Mmmmm te digo porque la tengo y te diría que no, hay algunos videos de benchmarks en los cuales sacan muchísimo más de lo que yo realmente consigo. Te diría que la 6600 xt es excelente para 1080 a más de 100 fps, dependiendo el juego obviamente, pero no la compraría para jugar a 1440 y menos en ultra. Con la 6600 xt 1080 ultra tiene unos cuantos tirones y no anda tan suavemente, en lo personal prefiero jugar en gráficos medios y que ande a más de 130 fps. En fin, creo que vale la pena ese salto, pero no lo haría pensando en 1440, si queres jugar en esa resolución te diría que ahorres para una 3070 o una 6700 xt, ahí andarías más cómodo, y obviamente espero que tengas un monitor 1440 sino sería totalmente al pedo.
@@silverwerewolf975 Es cierto que da miedo ML, mira, yo antes tenía una 1650 super y la vendi en ML por 55k hace un par de meses, la vendí en 6 horas y por suerte no tuve drama, pero si escuche historias como esas. Desde mi humilde opinión, teniendo una 6600 xt, si queres jugar a 1440 a mas de 100 fps, deberías comprar una placa de un nivel más alto, porque no sé si se bancara bien los juegos a tanto esta placa, obviamente depende lo que jugues, yo al cod warzone ando en 150 fps de promedio, con altas de 180 y bajas de 125 aprox en graficos medios. Como te digo, creo que 6600 xt = 1080 y 6700 xt = 1440. Si queres charlarlo más agregame a FB o IG que es igual que este usuario, je.
Hi Steve, just a question - what settings did you use exactly for the 40db normalizing test for the Sapphire Pulse? I'm getting the exact same temperatures as you without normalizing and the card is still very quiet, so I thought I might increase the fan speed a bit. Thank you for doing this comparison!
@@charliehill6776 Hey man! I will be very honest with you: I had a bad experience with my Pulse 6600 XT. Black screens during Windows boot, driver timeouts - it was very erratic. Of course, when it worked, it worked very well, but most of the time, it was a roll of a dice. I tried changing monitors, monitor cables, DDUing the drivers, but nothing worked. I read that a good quality 600W+ power supply MIGHT fix it, but I was done with the experimenting and went back to my GTX 1660Ti. So yeah, not sure if you are experiencing the same problems, but if you do, and you can exchange the card easily (i.e. you don't have to wait months for the new one), go ahead!
@@adamk.583 I haven't built the pc yet, but i think i may just stick with the pulse and try it out, and if all goes wrong i'll just return it. Can't be bothered to go through returning and ordering another gpu during Christmas time. Anyways, cheers for the reply bro.
@@adamk.583 Dude I am using RX 6600XT Pulse for about a month and I am fully satisfied with this card. However, I am not sure about the issue which Charlie mentioned above, since I have a PSU of 750W
I landed a gigabyte eagle for MSRP, and seeing where everything lines up so close I have to say Im glad I got one. the differences seem small, doesnt really impact fps as long as you didnt end up with that biostar. nice, thank you.
Eagle was tested by Tom's Hardware and it's very bad, much worse than everything tested here apart from the Biostar. Everything depends on noise tolerance though.
Shame you couldn't get a ventus. I had a RX 570 ventus once and it sounded like a jet engine under light load. Would have been nice to know if msi fixed their cooling.
I think you mean Armor, Ventus models are Nvidia. And yeah, the cooler sucks on the Armor models, I had to replace it on my old 470 because it couldn't keep up unless I ran it at 3000 RPM.
@Lucas Molessani Im certain that the best RX 6600XT is the Phantom followed by the Red Devil card, but I dunno about the Challenger D series. I have no idea honestly. I'd imagine its a fine card tho.
@HardwareUmboxed Good Morning Have you tried the Sapphire Nitro model of the 6600 XT? Will it be a very different result for the Pulse model, or will it just change the colors? Thanks
My guess in this test the card had some mounting issues with the cooler. Might have grabbed a bad apple since the values are so out of whack. I'd definitely check the cooling paste distribution and check if the pads are actually touching getting those readings in a test with a card like this. Sometimes a 20$ fix up will up your gear a solid tier or two.
I needed a GPU for productivity work (image and video processing) and snapped up an ASRock Challenger 12GB 6700xt for AU$999 three weeks ago. Fantastic card for my use cases and came with a free Cooler Master PSU as a bundle... I was eyeballing the 6600xt models but thought they are too cut down and I buy a new card only ever four years so I went 'all in'.
Got myself 6700 XT XFX SWIFT 309 for the price 200 U$ lower than now 3060 retails for... I've been searching for some good card for weeks and one night I've got it in a drop. I was over the moon when they ACTUALLY send the package as I've bought (or at least tried to) so many other cards for my rig, I wasn't expecting to get it, as none of them purchased before ever shipped to me even though I've waited many many months. So yeah I'll stick to it probably for 5 years or so. Loving it so far. And to anyone trying, if you have a great gpu already just skip this nonsense.
oh man, after having seen Wendover Production's video on shipping, i wonder if the Sapphire's box size is due to trying to save on either air or sea shipping volume size? (or do they just ship the PCBs, backplates, slot plate, then either print the boxes in the US+package, or send the packaging in flat sheets with the hardware...?)
I bought the Gigabyte model a month ago and I am pretty happy with it actually. I replayed Shadow of the Tomb Raider at 1080p highest settings capped at 60fps... and I was amazed how little stressed the card was during gameplay. Half the time the fans were not spinning at all because the chip was not stressed much and below 55 degrees C. :D Even at some benchmarks where I tested and stressed the card at full, the card was still very quite. Now in the review I find out it is the worst card from all the models, lol... (with the exception of the Biostar one) But as Steve said all models are good anyway and I can confirm it. Ddon't worry to buy the Gigabyte one if you don't find other models or they are more expensive.
friend I want to buy that model, this review made me doubt, but I noticed that it does not have front case fans, and that made all the cards get hotter than normal
thanks for doing this. Just sold my 1660super for $750 and bought a Powercolour FIGHTER 6600xt for $729 from PCG. i noticed you didnt include this card, but i think its the same as the Hellhound wtihout the RGB and top shroud? It is by far the cheapest looking card i've ever bought and i'm worried i've made a massive mistake haha
@@bryceh3026 Ot's really good man! If you want to use to play at 1080P just crank everything to the max and yolo. It's also really good at 1440p which is what I'm using it for. Pretty quiet and cool as well, always below 68C
Are there plans (or have done in the past) to do something similar for the higher end cards of this generation? I’m kinda torn between the 6800 XT or Nvidia’s 3070Ti
Upgrading from RX5700XT +nitro Sapphire VS the RX 6600XT - this would be an upgrade in performance as well you think? I'd go for the Sapphire brand, seems to be a good one and available to me.
I picked up a Sapphire RX 6600 XT a little over a week ago to put into an ITX build and it's been great. The system is quiet and the card is far better than the one it replaced.
I always get a bit worried when you cant test the cheapest(closest to msrp) models (Ventus/Asus Dual) varriants. Since the best tests are usually done on the lower grade, so people know if those are (good enogh) or to stay clear of them.
The Hellhound is very cheap. PowerColor also has the Fighter which is at MSRP, and from the pictures it looks to be the same cooler, but with copper heat pipes instead of nickel plated ones.
If you're going to purchase the ventus and phoenix cards for further reviews, pls include the nitro+ as it looks much more robust compared to the pulse
If the market wasn't so messed up i bet they would have included them, but I don't think it's profitable to spend so much money on produtcs people can't/aren't willing to buy and therefore less likely to watch a video about
Compared to all the other cards the Biostar is just incredibly bad. How can you fail at this level compared to the rest? I know it's a relatively new brand... but the step to the next model is about 20 degrees. What are they doing over there... Thanks Steve. ❤
Picked up a PowerColor Red Devil 6600XT for $224 used with the box/accessories and it's looks and performs great and in really good condition. Temperature seem very close to their results, around 55c with the fans around 1100ish rpm and under max load (145W) the hottest I'll see it is 64c with the quiet bios as well.
Noise analysis would also be very useful. I got the XFX MERC and the fans are so insanely loud under any kind of load that it is driving me crazy. Also, not sure about those 1100 RPM, because my card goes for like 3000 RPM under load (and I already limited the fans to 75% RPM max because any more and I simply can't play games anymore because it is too noisy). Junction temp also ramps up to 90°C pretty fast, even with those crazy fans. I mean, anything that has no load is just silent because of 0 RPM mode, but the noise of the fans under load is just crazy.
So one thing always annoyed be a bit about the 40dB(A) normalized test results. All cards only have 1 sample. Ofcourse I know why this is the case, but given the ASIC quality can vary quite a bit, and thus the required voltage, the best/worst cooler result can be obfuscated by ASIC quality more than the cooling design. Maybe a dB(A) normalized test should also include some way of locking the GPU's at the same voltage and frequency.
When the radiator is placed in the front of the computer, it only causes the gpu to overheat more due to poor cooling since hot air is being thrown out of the radiator. If you want better finishes, place the radiator up but never in front. If you do it as I say, you will never exceed 70 degrees of temperature. I have the hottest model of that GPU and it never goes above 71 degrees
Finally ! but where is nitro+ ? All I see here is reading specifications and testing marginal temperature differences between a few examples which directly translate to gpu's weight. Red devil has additional 6pin so it should be better at overclocking as one 8 pin=150W therefore you should include oc results as well or at least mention it in your review. The way I see it, rushed incomplete review, just to have some content during the weekend and never mentioning SAM. HU is getting worse sadly in my eyes at least. Also not mentioning msrp at all as I was able to buy nitro+ for € msrp and many in UK as well for £, so it's not that useless to include in case of 6600xt and perhaps for future viewers too. Again, incomplete review and not showing the whole picture is not what I was used to see here
He specifically stated that the power delivery is fine for all cards and to do benchmarks would just be showing variances of the silicon lottery since they're all virtually identical in performance. With the bios locking power delivery you could add 10 8 pin connectors to the card and it wouldn't be any faster. With SAM all cards would have the same performance.
@@pf100andahalf You can power mod your gpu, you can install asus strix bios to your asus dual gpu too or if you have asus tuf for example or sapphire pulse with nitro+ bios. SAM should be mentioned especially when comparing with for example 3060 or 5700xt or 1080ti as it is available only for 6000 series cards. Silicon lottery was always a thing but that deos not mean that youtubers will from now on stop showing the whole picture and a review should contain all the information available such as- frame times consistency, sustainable clock, microstuttering issues, build quality, fan stop feature, sapphire trixx software, ability to easily replace fans or not, coil whine, thermal pads on memory or backplate etc etc. Go check out Ancient Gameplays review and you'll see the whole picture for SAM results. A gamer is not interested to hear about gpu specificatons for half a video at this quality content channel
The red dewil has that extra power connector and Ot was exactly as fast or slow as the rest of these gpus! These gpus does not need that extra power connector for anything else than making it look more powerfull than it really is. Nvdia 1030 with two 8 PIN connector would not be faster than one with single 6 PIN connector, these are very efficient gpus, so single power connector is more than enough!
Perfect timing I was just looking at 6800XTs. The price is still a little high, but a big improvement in stock and range recently. Edit: Damn just noticed it's the 6600xt the price was a little too good!
@@leonjun9401 It's hard to believe the 6800XT's MSRP was 649 USD (yeah, not a typo). Scalpers suck, so does AMD for doing nothing to curb it. E.g. allow customers who had already registered with AMD Rewards to buy a GPU for a sane price, just one! Some would have flipped them, but most wouldn't. Feels strange to be rooting for Intel right now! 🤯 The 6800 launch was a total clusterfcuk, maybe the worst (and I've lost count how many AMD products I've brought over the last 20 or so years).
When I saw the title only of this pop up on my phone I was like "he better be holding all the boxes in the thumbnail"
I expected no less
It wasn't easy, but I did it for you Jarrod.
And he did 😂
Yeah, kind of annoying to alot of people watching cause "Why bother, we can't buy any of them anyway!!!!".
Still see that comment in the comment section of every other channel.
The mad man he actually did
Remember last year when Sapphire pulse 5600xt was launched just $10 over MSRP? Good times
Remember when flagships cost around 800$? Good times.
Actually, if you owned 5600XT Pulse, you could upgrade to 6600XT for free. It's not bad times for everyone.
@@EarthIsFlat456 Remember to account for inflation, good times
@@Dr.WhetFarts Just 4 years ago the 1080 Ti launched at 699$. Now be a professor and lecture me about inflation.
@@kognak6640 when I bought my gigabyte 3070 for £580 I sold my Sapphire 5600 for 300. Bargain. Admittedly you could sell a 5600xt for closer to 500 a few months later...
Larger boxes are harder to stick in your pants or hide under a coat. They also take up more shelf space, leaving less room for competing products.
Or they fill up a shelf faster when all other models are sold out and being scalped on Ebay
They also cost more to ship?
also percieved value on both the vendor deciding to sell the product as well as the end user
when a shop offers the same space for every competing product it means less room for the product with the bigger box
Also more protection for high value products
This video will be really handy in 2023 when this card will be affordable. It means, I'll probably watch it twice.
The prices won't go down. 2022-23 are going to be really bad years for the economy.
Oh the prices will go down that will happen just need a major recession or depression and that will happen some day but until then were pretty much screwed, and no one wants another recession/depression everyone looses.
By the time these are affordable they'll have stopped making them the previous year and you'll be waiting to scrabble for a 7600 XT at $900+
@METhOdhowtoKilLnoObS it might go down. But I doubt it'll go down any meaningful way anymore. This is probably here to stay.
@@artiew8718 If 2022-2023 are bad years for the economy then prices will drop as demand will drop for the cards...... so I will buy 10 and horde them for the next mining boom.
Powercolor really nailed it with 6000 series cards. Hellhound cards are also one of the cheapest!
XFX did great with 6700/6800 cards, but could've been better with 6600... Gigabyte... well... avoid. Same for Rog, they should be the best to justify the price, and when they are beaten by the "budget" hellhound it's just... shameful.
the 2000RPM of the Asus is just ridiculous. With 55°C edge, than fans should spin way slower. I guess Asus wants to be "the best" 6600XT by having the highest boost clocks. But that is just stupid.
Yeah gigabyte failed on this 6600xt. I got their 5600xt triple fan version and its amazing. Got it from hardware unboxed recommendation and have been very happy with it for a over a year now. That thing runs cool and quiet. Just shows you when something gets overlooked how far you can fall out of grace.
I managed to get a Powercolor Red Dragon 6800XT, it wasn’t at MSRP but I finally cracked, the card hasn’t, very happy with it.
yeah the hellhound is a bit of a weapon gpu i just brought a 6700xt spectral white hellhound for a intel build.. i was truly surprised that the 6600xt hellhound and red devil was giving a rog strix a run not to mention at last price check the strix was $950 and the devil and hound are $800 for the devil and $779 for the hound .. shame the merc didnt do better in the thermals its a bit of a beast looking 6600xt using the 3 fans!!
@@andyastrand nothings at MSRP the way i look at it buy what you can afford / something that suits your needs ,dont pay scalper prices and enjoy your purchase.. personally i think the prices are never going to get back to a normal state this will go on till late 2022 early 2023 and with the chatter around thats next gen so there prices will stay the same!!
The Hellhound is actually impressive, holds on pretty well, while being that short...and it's probably among the cheapest too.
Why did he not put in this top the asrock version ,is it weak?
@@Florinel21 it shouldn't be "weak" or weaker than the other 6600s, the only real difference between vendors is how they handle the cooling (and sometimes they overclock a bit, but it doesn't matter that much in terms of fps)
@@Winterstarf thanks bro ,i found rx6700 is is better than rx 6550 ? And rx6000?
Is it*
@@Winterstarf is rx6700 non xt better than those ?
Steve is completely correct on the MSI Gaming X. I got this one, as it was the one in stock when I walked into the store, and I'm more than thrilled at the performance. It's practically a passively cooled card, as the fans only come on under heavy gaming. And when they do, they're silent. I can't hear the card over my Lian Li case fans. Definitely a recommendation from me
me 2 i do recommed it as well.
i just got one as well
@wopwop nah $660 CAD (about $500 US), but really I didn't pay that much because I sold my 5700 to fund it. Free upgrade, FTW
I got a MSI Gaming X 1070 and I agree the card doesn't even spin fans fast or much at all
@@garbuckle3000 Yes the Gaming is the best cooled 6600XT card. If you do OC than change the Power Limit in the bios from max +4% to +20% like all the other 6600XT customs have. I wonder why MSi limited to +4% by default?! When the cooling of their card is descent!
I paid 480 Euro. But i sold my old Polaris RX 570 8Gb for 280 Euro. I more than doubled my performance. So not a bad deal, exspecially if you want to play WQHD on High or Ultra Settings. OC it for WQHD!
@@__Pathfinder__ can this card run at 2800MHz? and what’s temp you got
The first chart tells us all we need to know about the Biostar card: fans spinning stupidly fast & it's still the hottest card! Thanks for all the work 👍
So basically an Asus laptop
@@SF-li9kh or any laptop lmao
Well the thing is that the Biostar card is the cheapest card as 6600xt
I missed these kind of videos so much, really goes into detail how deep you test them
I don't plan to buy a GPU this generation, but I love watching comparisons of various models of the same spec. Would love to see more!
if we get cards next time lol. looks like we are going into crashing economy buy while u can
Probably an unpopular opinion : I would LOVE to see this extend to the higher end models as eventually they will be affordable and I have no idea which 6800xt or 3080 model to buy when that’s possible!
rog strix fan and water cooled i think is one of the best in the 6800xt 3080 range but they usually come at a premium even in a better gpu climate
Red Devil for the 6800xt. One of the best, if not the best, air cooled 6800xt available.
@@stephenrogers981 yeah it’s always at stock on amazon for 1400 😪
Whatever is in stock is what you buy.
@@stephenrogers981 ive got the red devil 6900xt and love it but i think the strix is a slightly better card
Thanks!! Great info. I'm finally getting back into the market. I was leaning toward a 3 fan setup but was surprised to not see a dramatic difference between the 2 fans. Thanks for the testing!
PowerColor and their Red Devil lineup really have their stuff together. Every card that's carried that brand is literally a win.
My friends Red devil 6800XT had horrible Coil whine, he had to return it. So aparently they are not all great.
@@AdaaDK lots of cards have coil whine. My 5700XT Red Devil has coil whine under high load, but it's actually normal for many cards to have it due to the power draw.
@@AdaaDK and there are many ways to reduce coil whine. Undervolting is one of them.
Not all, there was a powercolor 5600xt model that had some bios problems according to GN but that was because they had to change the bios last minute before launch, the build quality was good anyway
@@AdaaDK coil whine, in my experience, has two easy fixes: 1) make sure you're using a properly grounded wall plug. 2) Don't push 500FPS... seriously, nothing can make a card whine it's tits off like stupid frame rates.
That being said, sometimes an inductor doesn't have proper contact with the PCB, in which case there is just nothing you can do but RMA the card. This is generally not model or maker specific though.
Thanks for making this! I am building a few gaming PCs to sell and this was good info as the 6600xt has some availability. Also helped having your review video vs the 3060 and 3060ti. Thanks!
Patchyy!!!!
Yeah this guy helped me sooooo much when I was building.
hi, its september 2022, am praying that you did not buy a 6600 xt for 750$
Nice to see Powercolor become a proper mainstream brand. I had always seen them around but they brought the heat with the 6000 series
You seem to think budget means mainstream.
@METhOdhowtoKilLnoObS he means the brand name. Power color was once Biostar. A company with no reputation, but after a few years people began to trust them.
Their 5700XT Red Devil got all the rave reviews too. My buddy has one and is loving it to bits. Slight undervolt got it to clock to the moon, and it is whisper quiet.
Powercolor have been a proper mainstream brand for decades, maybe they just didn't have a good distribution channel in your area..
All my cards have been Powercolor starting with my first card from them, which was the venerable 9600 XT, followed by an X800 Pro, X1950 XT, 3780, 4870, 7870 and a RX 580.. they might not have been the fanciest but you could rely on them being a company that only did ATi/AMD cards 👍
Always been Sapphire (AMD) or ASUS (Nvidia) guy myself. Powercolor have always been a boring name to me, like biostar or msi, remember their ASUS 280x ripoff design, Sapphire Toxic won my hear easely, and it served me well.
But the Red Devil Performance/Branding/Design with the 6750XT was just an absolute no-brainer, HAD to have it! Defenetly worthy of replaceing my 1070 strix
I wish there were viable 2-slot options.
I am a bit surprised that the 3-fan options did not win either thermals or acoustics.
Smaller fans move less air and make more noise, this usually ends up the case in my experience. 3x100mm > 2x100mm > 3x80mm for thermals and noise. Of course heatsink mass, material and placement influence this a lot but yeah... Often triple 80mm designs end up being louder and hotter
well if u noticed those 3 fans are significantly smaller than 2 fan cards
I have the Eagle version of the Gigabyte card. It has 2 HDMI and 2 DP connectors. From what I can tell it has an additional heat pipe and a cut out on the aluminum back plate for blow through. The only issue I have is the fans are LOUD at max speed. Almost hitting 5000rpm. The card rarely even gets to 45% fan speed on its own though. Also it does not have dual bios.
Thanks Steve, was hoping to start seeing some AIB reviews!! Love to see more PLEASE!! Drives me crazy that all of the "why review something you can't buy" Haters have scared off a lot of Reviewers from testing this Generation of Cards!! Cards have been available at times and even at a decent price at times, but not for very long, which makes having seen Good Quality Reviews like this more important than ever nowadays!!! To know which ones are Good and which are Crap when you do get the chance to buy one seems something that has escaped some potential buyers out there!! Thanks again Steve!! Cheers! 🍻👍😎
True! Even if you can not buy these… these are the models that have allmost sensible prices compared to upper middle range and above…
biostar leading the pack
Heading the wrong way but leading
It's hard to stand out in such competitive market. So biostar think outside the box and goes the other way.
🤣🤣🤣
I don't understand how that one could be so much worse than the rest. these things surely are regulated better than that?
@@davidfoote696 Those biostar gpu might still meet the standard, where the standard is the absolute limit for the card to run at stock. Don't you remember AMD put a single fan blower on a 270w Vega 64?
Only the others had been in the industry long enough, their basic card becomes very good compair to the standard.
Using an Asrock Challenger Pro a couple of month now and couldn't be happier. The card is super quiet and runs extremely cool!
I did not expect Power Color to perform this well... I was locked in buying the Gigabyte OC... Thanks a lot to this channel!
avoid gigabyte gpus please, just not worth it
@@reckless5762 why
The Hellhound really impressed me in these benchmarks even beating the Pulse imo
Upgraded to a XFX MERC 308 6600xt from EVGA 1070 SC2 and I'm really impressed with XFX. It's absolutely silent and the Temps are much lower than yours for some reason. I haven't seen the Hotspot go over 60 and the Edge go over 52 and build quality is really good too.
I'm happy to read that because mine is being shipped right now.
Try it on furmark, then let me know what's the highest temp
Who else likes the videos before they even watch them? I like them before I watch them because Steve and Tim are just awesome! Keep up the hard work guys, love the content!
I got my self red devil 🙂
I sold my 5700xt and bought 6600xt and while it sounds dumb at the first glance I made 180$ on that. Further more I sold reference 5700xt with 1 year warranty remaining and got 6600xt red devil brand new with 3 year warranty, since they preform practically the same it was ni brainer to go for it
How is it going for you, is it performing well?
Sapphire rx 6600 xt Nitro+ was nothing but problems for me. Wish I could have figured it out. All it gave was black screens when installing AMD drivers. Only would show the desktop in safe mode and when there was no drivers installed.
I was told it was RAM but any test came up zero errors. Tried with single stick, did mobo BIOS update, updated mobo chipset drivers, swapped PSU cables, nothing worked and got zero help other than "buy new ram or buy a new mobo (lol)" so had to send the card back. I really did not want to reinstall windows just to get my GPU to work, found that ridiculous to go through those hoops. Now stuck on what the hell to get because I concerned it will happen with any RX 6600 XT or newer card I purchase...
Upgrading from RX 580, which works flawless w/my rig (R% 2600x, Asus Strix B350 mobo, 16GB GEIL super Luce ram, 650w PSU)
I have the PowerColor Red Devil version, I am ABSOLUTELY HAPPY with it's performance.
Given the size and girth of the cooler, I'm a little shocked at the temps you observed with the XFX model. Is there perhaps a paste problem with that one? Or are the fan curves not well tuned? Or did XFX really miss the mark?
I believe the heatsink on the board is too small compared to other boards
@@ripe8973 Yea, the fines aren't as wide and there are some pretty big gaps between the sections (unlike the gigabyte one... So quite possibly not enough surface area overall. Does looks like the thermal paste was fine as well, so I'll rule that out. Perhaps a non-flat base plate... I know temps are good, but I still would have thought it would have been among the top performers here, not one of the worst - that's why I'm shocked. Well, looks aren't everything. :-)
I actually purchased the powercolor hellhound from Microcenter in the United States. My particular card had issues like freezing my system, making my system reboot. Pretty much spent a week or two troubleshooting because I wanted the card to work and Microcenter didn’t have any more in stock.
This past Monday (Labor Day in the USA), Microcenter near me got stock of more rx 6600xt cards. When I arrived they did have the powercolor cards but for a little more they had a single asus dual model, the one they couldn’t review.
The asus dual does not seem to have a dual bios or led lights, but it is a bit bigger than the hellhound and is about 2.5 slots thick. And in my case, the card works! My pc is now stable again. I’ve seen my card idle as low as 29 C.
Edit, I should note that I reached out to powercolor support who tried to be helpful and they offered an rma, but since I was with my return window, when Microcenter had cards come in stock, I got there less than 5 minutes after they opened to exchange the card rather than wait for rma which could have taken up to 14 business days.
Same with my XFX Merc 6600xt. I bet it's something to do with the drivers. I had to remove the drivers with DDU twice. To make the system stable again. I previous had a vega 56 in it. Sold it for a handsome profit. 😆
@@gregtay67 I’m not sure. After I returned the powercolor card to be honest I don’t think I removed drivers. Just when I installed the asus card I’ve had no issues since.
@@Averagedude-mi3fl you probably got a defective card.
In the UK currently the range is £449-499 for the cards in this review. They have been creeping up this week in price. They are currently the best price/performance for a new GPU in the UK. The 3060Ti is the next card to consider if one drops at the right price. (couple in stock at £599 at time of this comment)
you've seen 3060ti's in stock in the uk?
@@marksemple297 Yea, 3060ti's have been in stock for about 3 weeks now around £560-650 depending on model and retailer.
scan has 2 cards in stock at £430, asus dual oc and powercolour hellhound and the asus rog at £480.
@@marksemple297 OCUK have a zotac and palit 3060ti both £599.
@@marksemple297 It's a shame the Asus dual was £329 at 1:55pm at OCUK and sold out the promo stock in seconds on release day!
No Sapphire Nitro+ tested :/
Bought this one via the NewEgg Shuffle at launch and it screams... 10% +/- faster than my old Gigabyte 5700 XT, and it runs cooler and burns fewer watts.
/Fully recommend it
What do you mean by it screams?
I have one as well and mine makes an audible grinding noise as soon as the fans start spinning. It is not awefully loud, but I cannot bring this card down to the noise level of my former RX 570 Nitro+ and Vega 56 Pulse.
And all these cards were used when I bought them.
To be honest, in my personal opinion the fan quality of Sapphire decreased. I never had to do anything with the RX 570, but I had to disassemble and oil the Vega 56 fans several times until their noise was almost gone - only very little left. Now with my brand new RX 6600 XT Nitro+ I again have trouble with the fans.
I am now waiting for replacement fans to arrive for 4 weeks. Luckily the Sapphire support or more helpful than the retailer "Mindfactory" who tried to RMA my whole card. Worst support ever.
@@WCIIIReiniger It Screams = Fast
/very quiet running
It has the same heatsink as the Sapphire Pulse, only has dual BIOS and a different shroud with rgb
@@santiagomurillo7551 thanks for the information.
Where did you get that from? Do you have access to both cards to compare them or did you come to that conclusion by looking at pictures?
@@WCIIIReiniger Yeah, I sold both cards and they almost weight the same. The thermal difference was minimal, very dissapointed, i was expecting better performance
Another amazing video I'm on the fence about getting one of these honestly just because I'm impatient. But on another note I did just get my t-shirt from you guys and I love it thanks from the US.
Lmao the BIOSTAR one got aluminium ribbed heatsink, they put something like that in sub $100 cards that are powered from x16 slot...
My zotac twin fan gtx1660 has the same style of heatsink but with only 1 heatpipe, even with a deshroud and fan swap the thing still gets super loud.
ironically slap a decent heatsink on it and it's not too bad a card, they literally gimped the card by giving it a cheapo shite HS. talk about big oof.
@@marksemple297 Yeah such an obvious fail, especially for a company that I see for the first time break into new market, I believe they used to make mostly motherboards for server use, then they enter consumer gaming GPU market and already make bad image of themselves.
Heck they should make it good and cheap, with 0 profit purely for convincing new market to them.
I think Boistar is going for the mining crowd tbh. Running at 50% power dosent require beefy heatskinks, and they wont care abt noise. They are selling insane mining mobos here in asia, and we all know it.
@@相馬光好 I'm a miner and I don't think I would buy this card, resale aspect is also another thing, decent card will sell much quicker for more to gamers.
Also if they messed up main silicon cooling, memory cooling might be bad as well, and that is important for mining.
As a Gigabyte 6600 XT user, yes I can confirm it is a very loud card
friend, I want to buy that one with 3 fans, is it too noisy? About how much percentage does it start to sound high
@@pandasad689 My card gets to the 30% range then starts buzzing loud, but temps don't get that high
Hi Steve! I just want to say thank you, to you and Tim ofc, always great content and fun to watch but also very informative. Has helped me a dozen time to choose the right items for my customer, I work in retail over in 🇸🇪. Have a great one!
If you say 'alluminum trimmings' are they really aluminum or some plastic that tries to look like aluminum?
If you have a 1660 Super, sell it and pick up one of these. It's damn cheep and mega upgrade in a market gone mad! #NoRegrets
True, but do it in the reverse order. First buy the new card, then sell the old one.
6700xt is minimum i want, 6600xt is too slow and 128 bit bus is too low, it's a 1080p at best
@@Dr.WhetFarts That’s what the 6600XT is marketed as… a 1080p card.
@@Dr.WhetFarts Fair enough, hang in there then. Took the plunge myself and got the XFX SWFT 210 (as it fits in my ITX build) as I was able to sell my year old 1660 Super for almost twice what I paid for it and cover 85% of the new card that's a substantial upgrade over the 1660.
@@ElijsDima I managed to sell my 1660 on Monday and the 6600 was delivered on Wednesday. Worked out in the end, I was worried the supplier would run out of stock and usually when the restock the priced seems to go up so I took a gamble that worked out. Very happy with the new card.
To answer the question at 4:10 ish it's all about grabbing eyes while sitting on the shelf. That's why so many boxes for retail products are so big. That and the illusion of getting more for the money.
Yeah for sure, though you have to wonder if it's worth the added shipping costs these days. Especially given I have to imagine the vast majority of graphics cards sold were purchased online in 2021.
@@Hardwareunboxed I completely agree. Do they really think people pick the GPU they want to buy off the shelf based on what the box looks like on the shelf? Don't their marketing people know people actually buy the GPU based on Hardware Unboxed reviews?
Great vid, just a bummer you didn't include the Nitro+ as I like the brand in general but their Pulse is a bit underperforming as the budget model.
We do know that this was the reason for it to be done starting many, many decades ago when there was no such thing as online retail.
The question is why are manufacturer's product marketing teams still insisting on doing it when the vast majority of revenue is driven through online sales where packaging size is irrelevant.
I haven't set foot in a computer hardware shop (or other industry-adjacent shop that happens to stock those lines) in decades, not that there are actually any within a reasonable driving time should I actually want to.
@@EvernooBE
> Do they really think people pick the GPU they want to buy off the shelf based on what the box looks like on the shelf?
Maybe 2 decades ago. Last decade or so, most people buying the cards will most likely buy them online, and check reviews from customers and reviewers alike. Especially since there can be such a wide gap in performance between the "same" cards. Though I do understand how some people will just get the first card that's in stock, regardless how good it is compared to the rest, just because they need or want a card. Blink, and it's gone.
The Hellhound is just beautiful. I love its minimalistic design, compact size, and attention to details (They have backplate made out of aluminium and they used nickel-plated copper heatpipes instead of just just copper). Plus, it performs well and the price is cheap, too.
@METhOdhowtoKilLnoObS Did I stutter?
@METhOdhowtoKilLnoObS Compared to the Strix which it handily beat. So yes, it's cheap by comparison. And here in Denmark it is in stock at only 10% over MSRP.
I just got a 6700 XT Sapphire Nitro + after having a 6700 XT Hellhound and omg, I didn´t know the hellhound was soooo good
I have the Gigabyte 6600 XT and honestly I'm surprised it didn't rank better, under intense gaming sessions I've never seen it go over 54-56 degrees celsius. I do have it vertically mounted and paired with a i3-10100f so it's defenitly not as hungry as that system, but it runs fantastic :D, at least it's not a Biostar.
yes i also got gigabyte, it's a good card.
Again PowerColor is solid. Now I'm curious to see if the PowerColor Fighter 6600XT is up there with the Hellhound. It is a good tad cheaper where I live, so if you get it in, please do share the results :D
pity you didnt have a Sapphire Nitro + I would like to see how it stacks up against the PowerColor Red Devil
It has the same heatsink as the Sapphire Pulse, only has dual BIOS and a different shroud with rgb
The Red Devil is the best model by far, beating even triple fan cards
Back when you could get a 5700xt for less than a 6600xt I thought I would wait for the new 6xxx series. Big oof.
Me too! The price of a Power Color 5700xt was actually cut and I wasn't sure what to get, the 5600xt or 5700xt .. deciding to wait for Zen3/RDNA2 was an expensive decision.
It was already clear that Nvidia had some issues supplying RTX when Zen3 was announced.
We all know that already, quit wining
Great round up, I love the format of several in one detailed but concise video
The fins on the Hell Hound are Horizontal like a Sapphire Nitro+ and Pulse cards. The Red Devils are VerticaI.
Also the MSI has 4 heat pipes, not 3.
Not pointing out error corrections, just honest mistakes.
I can get the Red Devil 6600XT for $500usd. That sounds not to 💩.
I seen a 1050ti for $300 and right next to it was a $400 eVGA XC 3060. Yes, i got a 3060 for $400usd. Yesterday.
Prices were crazy back then...I got a 6600xt recently for $130.
how they are 280$ where i live
@@deluusional4210 Used
Sorry to ask this, but the MSI Gaming X card seams to have 4 heatpipes instead of the mentioned 3.
...and the Gigabyte also has a slightly different output configuration than the rest, with two HDMI and two DisplayPort. But these things were at least easy to spot in the video footage.
Yea there are 8 heat pipe end points visible so there must be at least 4
Just got the red devil second hand, and I feel I need to repaste and replace the thermal pads as its going up to 70 degrees gpu temp and 100 degrees (gpu hotspot) during steel nomad stress test. I think the settings were 1080p extreme. Do you know the thickness of the thermal pads? thanks man
I got my Sapphire Nitro+ 6600Xt. Clocks easy @ 2800 core and 2100 memory. Great card got it msrp from AWDIT 12th Aug for £399.. Nice card tbh.
Great video again, shame you couldn't get hold of the Sapphire Nitro+ , I picked it above the Pulse for the dual bios and quality case.
Same here. I am very happy with it. And I think the card looks really good.
I wonder how the asrock challenger pro is going.
There's no stock in Australia but given they don't respect the independent review process or their customers, I'd be hesitant to invest in Asrock products.
Yeah I was wondering the same, apparently some of their 6800xts are good.
it has 3 fans, so should be pretty fine
@@Hardwareunboxed oh, looks like that was a prank which gone out of control
Xfx has another version of it isXFX AMD Radeon RX 6600 XT SWFT 210
Do you think this version is good?
Would it make sense to do a similar comparison to a set of RX 6800 XT models? I was actually surprised to see the 6600 XT Gaming X Trio doing so well in this video.
Do these comparisons hold for the newer 6650 XT?
Asus & MSI not providing their lower end models probably proves that they are making the higher end ones a lot more for extra profit :/
Rather they don't want to be subjected to negative reviews, due to how exigent these guys are. The 'Dual' and "Ventus" got crappier coolers and no metal backplates, usually.
I would do the same thing if I were a for-profit business.
@@HDJess Yeah sure, they were making these the past years but magically not atm.. wonder why $$$$$$$
The MSI Mech and the Asus Dual have awul coolers. The temps are in range (but higher than Gaming and Strix), but they are very loud.
Gaming and Strix are therefore better for OC. And 6600XT is a good OC!
The MSI Gaming is a ultra silent and high performance cooler card! Well done
@@Darkswordz You're a small hat.
As previously stated in you other presentation regarding the 6600XT's, here in the UK the average price for the 6600XT is around £450.00 and 11 different models to choose from. (I bought a MSI RX6600XT Gaming X a couple of weeks ago for £449.00 with Delivery and Taxes Included. Pre Tax was £366.66).
The 3060 is on average £620.00 including Tax with 10+ different models available.
Thanks..... Bill, (UK).
How`s it performing?
@@fromsoftlover Absolutely fine.... Although now not as readily available, but cheaper, around the £360-390 mark including Tax.
But no complaints.
👍
@@makiwa I was looking into this one with Ryen 5 5600x but I`m worried about that my PSU won`t be powerful enough... CV550W 80+ Bronze What do you think?
Watching this videos makes me feel good about my PowerColor RX 6600 XT Red Devil purchase. In my country (Argentina), it was the cheapest of the 6600 XT series and all in all, it performs very well, more than enough for 1080. I still don't understand why people get upset about this card, I know that prices vary very much from country to country but if you can get one of these for a good price, I don't know what can beat it (Michael Jackson singing the Chorus of the song lol). It's just way too good *For its price*.
@@silverwerewolf975 Mmmmm te digo porque la tengo y te diría que no, hay algunos videos de benchmarks en los cuales sacan muchísimo más de lo que yo realmente consigo. Te diría que la 6600 xt es excelente para 1080 a más de 100 fps, dependiendo el juego obviamente, pero no la compraría para jugar a 1440 y menos en ultra. Con la 6600 xt 1080 ultra tiene unos cuantos tirones y no anda tan suavemente, en lo personal prefiero jugar en gráficos medios y que ande a más de 130 fps.
En fin, creo que vale la pena ese salto, pero no lo haría pensando en 1440, si queres jugar en esa resolución te diría que ahorres para una 3070 o una 6700 xt, ahí andarías más cómodo, y obviamente espero que tengas un monitor 1440 sino sería totalmente al pedo.
@@silverwerewolf975 ryzen 5 5600x y 24 gb de ram a 3000 mhz
@@silverwerewolf975 Es cierto que da miedo ML, mira, yo antes tenía una 1650 super y la vendi en ML por 55k hace un par de meses, la vendí en 6 horas y por suerte no tuve drama, pero si escuche historias como esas. Desde mi humilde opinión, teniendo una 6600 xt, si queres jugar a 1440 a mas de 100 fps, deberías comprar una placa de un nivel más alto, porque no sé si se bancara bien los juegos a tanto esta placa, obviamente depende lo que jugues, yo al cod warzone ando en 150 fps de promedio, con altas de 180 y bajas de 125 aprox en graficos medios. Como te digo, creo que 6600 xt = 1080 y 6700 xt = 1440. Si queres charlarlo más agregame a FB o IG que es igual que este usuario, je.
I hope changing the thermal pads and compound would help with the cooling.
So if I see this correctly none of those models are a dual slot card. On a fairly low power, (at best?) midrange card. That's a big oof from me tbh.
do you think this is the same for 6650 XT and non-XT?
Hi Steve, just a question - what settings did you use exactly for the 40db normalizing test for the Sapphire Pulse? I'm getting the exact same temperatures as you without normalizing and the card is still very quiet, so I thought I might increase the fan speed a bit. Thank you for doing this comparison!
Hey man, How's the card going these days. My Sapphire pulse has just arrived, but i'm thinking of returning it and getting the PowerColor red devil.
@@charliehill6776 Hey man! I will be very honest with you: I had a bad experience with my Pulse 6600 XT. Black screens during Windows boot, driver timeouts - it was very erratic. Of course, when it worked, it worked very well, but most of the time, it was a roll of a dice. I tried changing monitors, monitor cables, DDUing the drivers, but nothing worked. I read that a good quality 600W+ power supply MIGHT fix it, but I was done with the experimenting and went back to my GTX 1660Ti.
So yeah, not sure if you are experiencing the same problems, but if you do, and you can exchange the card easily (i.e. you don't have to wait months for the new one), go ahead!
@@adamk.583 I haven't built the pc yet, but i think i may just stick with the pulse and try it out, and if all goes wrong i'll just return it. Can't be bothered to go through returning and ordering another gpu during Christmas time. Anyways, cheers for the reply bro.
@@charliehill6776 Yeah man, if you don't have these PSU/weird compatibility issues, it is a very solid card and it is whisper quiet! Cheers!
@@adamk.583 Dude I am using RX 6600XT Pulse for about a month and I am fully satisfied with this card. However, I am not sure about the issue which Charlie mentioned above, since I have a PSU of 750W
What about the msi rx 6600 xt mech 2x oc edition? Is it good? Does it have issues?
Would You recommend buying this gpu?
I landed a gigabyte eagle for MSRP, and seeing where everything lines up so close I have to say Im glad I got one. the differences seem small, doesnt really impact fps as long as you didnt end up with that biostar. nice, thank you.
Eagle was tested by Tom's Hardware and it's very bad, much worse than everything tested here apart from the Biostar. Everything depends on noise tolerance though.
Shame you couldn't get a ventus. I had a RX 570 ventus once and it sounded like a jet engine under light load. Would have been nice to know if msi fixed their cooling.
I think you mean Armor, Ventus models are Nvidia. And yeah, the cooler sucks on the Armor models, I had to replace it on my old 470 because it couldn't keep up unless I ran it at 3000 RPM.
@@musguelha14 Oh, you're right! But they look so similar, tough.
The best one in terms of cooling system is the ASRock Phantom (3 fan). It has the same cooler as their RX 6700XT and its way over kill for RX 6600XT.
just lacked this asrock in the video to be perfect
Theres no thing like a overkill coing system 😤
@@zeronin4696 Agree, the more cooling.. the better
@Lucas Molessani Im certain that the best RX 6600XT is the Phantom followed by the Red Devil card, but I dunno about the Challenger D series. I have no idea honestly. I'd imagine its a fine card tho.
@Lucas Molessani As long as u got a card, its fine. Depends how much u paid for it tho.
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Have you tried the Sapphire Nitro model of the 6600 XT?
Will it be a very different result for the Pulse model, or will it just change the colors?
Thanks
The biostar might be a good buy second hand a year or two from now when prices normalise, *if* you plan to water cool it.
Ok, I'm reaching here...
Naw, that thing would probably bust your block and crack temperd glass with coil whine/s 😂
@@samgoff5289 😜
You do not want to buy that card, after someone tortured it with the shitty biostar cooler for a year.
@@WCIIIReiniger I did say that I was reaching...
My guess in this test the card had some mounting issues with the cooler. Might have grabbed a bad apple since the values are so out of whack. I'd definitely check the cooling paste distribution and check if the pads are actually touching getting those readings in a test with a card like this.
Sometimes a 20$ fix up will up your gear a solid tier or two.
well i am very happy to be watching this.. thank you awesome roundup!!!
I needed a GPU for productivity work (image and video processing) and snapped up an ASRock Challenger 12GB 6700xt for AU$999 three weeks ago. Fantastic card for my use cases and came with a free Cooler Master PSU as a bundle... I was eyeballing the 6600xt models but thought they are too cut down and I buy a new card only ever four years so I went 'all in'.
Got myself 6700 XT XFX SWIFT 309 for the price 200 U$ lower than now 3060 retails for... I've been searching for some good card for weeks and one night I've got it in a drop. I was over the moon when they ACTUALLY send the package as I've bought (or at least tried to) so many other cards for my rig, I wasn't expecting to get it, as none of them purchased before ever shipped to me even though I've waited many many months.
So yeah I'll stick to it probably for 5 years or so. Loving it so far. And to anyone trying, if you have a great gpu already just skip this nonsense.
oh man, after having seen Wendover Production's video on shipping, i wonder if the Sapphire's box size is due to trying to save on either air or sea shipping volume size? (or do they just ship the PCBs, backplates, slot plate, then either print the boxes in the US+package, or send the packaging in flat sheets with the hardware...?)
I bought the Gigabyte model a month ago and I am pretty happy with it actually. I replayed Shadow of the Tomb Raider at 1080p highest settings capped at 60fps... and I was amazed how little stressed the card was during gameplay. Half the time the fans were not spinning at all because the chip was not stressed much and below 55 degrees C. :D
Even at some benchmarks where I tested and stressed the card at full, the card was still very quite.
Now in the review I find out it is the worst card from all the models, lol... (with the exception of the Biostar one)
But as Steve said all models are good anyway and I can confirm it. Ddon't worry to buy the Gigabyte one if you don't find other models or they are more expensive.
friend I want to buy that model, this review made me doubt, but I noticed that it does not have front case fans, and that made all the cards get hotter than normal
Shows how low the memory cooling requirements are when even the dumpster firestar kept the chips cool
Interesting to see the 2 fan cards generally outperform the 3 fans in thermals
Well designed thermal blocks and radiator is more expensive than additional fan.
thanks for doing this. Just sold my 1660super for $750 and bought a Powercolour FIGHTER 6600xt for $729 from PCG. i noticed you didnt include this card, but i think its the same as the Hellhound wtihout the RGB and top shroud? It is by far the cheapest looking card i've ever bought and i'm worried i've made a massive mistake haha
Lol. Same
Lame.
I just bought a Power colour Red-Devil 6600XT, now just waiting for AUS Post to deliver it hahaha can't wait to start gaming.
My Red Devil 6700xt cools passively in the games I play most!
Hoes the gpu?
@@bryceh3026 Ot's really good man! If you want to use to play at 1080P just crank everything to the max and yolo.
It's also really good at 1440p which is what I'm using it for. Pretty quiet and cool as well, always below 68C
@@Felipe_Motociclista how much frames u averaging on games
Informative vid. When you mention the MSI RX 6600 XT Gaming X does not have 'dual bar support' - What is that exactly?
I”ve had my rx 5700 for 320€ new when they came up. These are all badly priced cards, I’ll stick to my “old” hardware:) .
Sapphire Nitro+ 6600XT missing. Wish you guys review it.
@Nabiy Kazyaka Same. Love it so far.
@Nabiy Kazyaka yup I just bought that
Are there plans (or have done in the past) to do something similar for the higher end cards of this generation? I’m kinda torn between the 6800 XT or Nvidia’s 3070Ti
are you a time traveler from the future where they have the luxury to choose different cards?
@@tyre1337 the stock is there, but prices are high, i can get a 6800 xt (XFX Speedster) or 3070 ti (Zotac Amp) for same price,
Why? The the 6800xt is significantly faster.
@@Psi-Storm that might be true but i’m conflicted on whether losing DLSS is a huge deal or not
@@tyre1337 I am.
Upgrading from RX5700XT +nitro Sapphire VS the RX 6600XT - this would be an upgrade in performance as well you think? I'd go for the Sapphire brand, seems to be a good one and available to me.
I picked up a Sapphire RX 6600 XT a little over a week ago to put into an ITX build and it's been great. The system is quiet and the card is far better than the one it replaced.
How is the temperature of your sapphire? I'm considering getting the RX 6600 XT in the near future.
@@GaleonGuitar it usually sits around 60-70 degrees when gaming full blown 1080 and it’s very quiet
@@GaleonGuitar it usually sits around 60-70 degrees when gaming full blown 1080 and it’s very quiet
@@pancakesavior3595 What's the junction temperature at full load? I'm pretty sure those are the "normal temps".
Thank you.
I always get a bit worried when you cant test the cheapest(closest to msrp) models (Ventus/Asus Dual) varriants. Since the best tests are usually done on the lower grade, so people know if those are (good enogh) or to stay clear of them.
The Hellhound is very cheap. PowerColor also has the Fighter which is at MSRP, and from the pictures it looks to be the same cooler, but with copper heat pipes instead of nickel plated ones.
If you're going to purchase the ventus and phoenix cards for further reviews, pls include the nitro+ as it looks much more robust compared to the pulse
If the market wasn't so messed up i bet they would have included them, but I don't think it's profitable to spend so much money on produtcs people can't/aren't willing to buy and therefore less likely to watch a video about
What about xfx speedster swft 210 radeon rx 6600? Is that good graphic card cuz i just
ordered it
Compared to all the other cards the Biostar is just incredibly bad. How can you fail at this level compared to the rest?
I know it's a relatively new brand... but the step to the next model is about 20 degrees.
What are they doing over there...
Thanks Steve. ❤
@@MrDvneil you sure they are connected?
Picked up a PowerColor Red Devil 6600XT for $224 used with the box/accessories and it's looks and performs great and in really good condition. Temperature seem very close to their results, around 55c with the fans around 1100ish rpm and under max load (145W) the hottest I'll see it is 64c with the quiet bios as well.
Noise analysis would also be very useful. I got the XFX MERC and the fans are so insanely loud under any kind of load that it is driving me crazy. Also, not sure about those 1100 RPM, because my card goes for like 3000 RPM under load (and I already limited the fans to 75% RPM max because any more and I simply can't play games anymore because it is too noisy). Junction temp also ramps up to 90°C pretty fast, even with those crazy fans. I mean, anything that has no load is just silent because of 0 RPM mode, but the noise of the fans under load is just crazy.
So would you recommend? Xfx version
What about the Powercolor RX 6600 XT Fighter? Is it good?
I use the Biostar GPU to heat my apartment.
this was perfect thanks man. i just wanted to be sure the one im getting on sale doesnt have some surprise flaw without me knowing it.
powercolor reaching sapphire quality even hellhound beating the pulse by a margin
PowerColor has not had a dud since before RX 5000. Even their Fighter models deliver the goods.
Thanks for your effort 🙏 good video I was looking for
So one thing always annoyed be a bit about the 40dB(A) normalized test results. All cards only have 1 sample.
Ofcourse I know why this is the case, but given the ASIC quality can vary quite a bit, and thus the required voltage, the best/worst cooler result can be obfuscated by ASIC quality more than the cooling design. Maybe a dB(A) normalized test should also include some way of locking the GPU's at the same voltage and frequency.
Hotspot temperature should be high or low?
When the radiator is placed in the front of the computer, it only causes the gpu to overheat more due to poor cooling since hot air is being thrown out of the radiator. If you want better finishes, place the radiator up but never in front. If you do it as I say, you will never exceed 70 degrees of temperature. I have the hottest model of that GPU and it never goes above 71 degrees
tienes razon, es un mal ensamblaje, no permite un correcto flujo de aire
Shoutout to you, you presented the information well and in an easy to understand format that makes my decision easier!
so what is you choices ?
Finally ! but where is nitro+ ? All I see here is reading specifications and testing marginal temperature differences between a few examples which directly translate to gpu's weight. Red devil has additional 6pin so it should be better at overclocking as one 8 pin=150W therefore you should include oc results as well or at least mention it in your review. The way I see it, rushed incomplete review, just to have some content during the weekend and never mentioning SAM. HU is getting worse sadly in my eyes at least. Also not mentioning msrp at all as I was able to buy nitro+ for € msrp and many in UK as well for £, so it's not that useless to include in case of 6600xt and perhaps for future viewers too. Again, incomplete review and not showing the whole picture is not what I was used to see here
He specifically stated that the power delivery is fine for all cards and to do benchmarks would just be showing variances of the silicon lottery since they're all virtually identical in performance. With the bios locking power delivery you could add 10 8 pin connectors to the card and it wouldn't be any faster. With SAM all cards would have the same performance.
@@pf100andahalf You can power mod your gpu, you can install asus strix bios to your asus dual gpu too or if you have asus tuf for example or sapphire pulse with nitro+ bios. SAM should be mentioned especially when comparing with for example 3060 or 5700xt or 1080ti as it is available only for 6000 series cards. Silicon lottery was always a thing but that deos not mean that youtubers will from now on stop showing the whole picture and a review should contain all the information available such as- frame times consistency, sustainable clock, microstuttering issues, build quality, fan stop feature, sapphire trixx software, ability to easily replace fans or not, coil whine, thermal pads on memory or backplate etc etc. Go check out Ancient Gameplays review and you'll see the whole picture for SAM results. A gamer is not interested to hear about gpu specificatons for half a video at this quality content channel
The red dewil has that extra power connector and Ot was exactly as fast or slow as the rest of these gpus! These gpus does not need that extra power connector for anything else than making it look more powerfull than it really is. Nvdia 1030 with two 8 PIN connector would not be faster than one with single 6 PIN connector, these are very efficient gpus, so single power connector is more than enough!
@@haukionkannel second connector for supplying massive led and extra fans I guess)
7600 please! :) I'm planning to get one and I want to have the quietest one...
Perfect timing I was just looking at 6800XTs. The price is still a little high, but a big improvement in stock and range recently.
Edit: Damn just noticed it's the 6600xt the price was a little too good!
still scalped
@@leonjun9401 It's hard to believe the 6800XT's MSRP was 649 USD (yeah, not a typo). Scalpers suck, so does AMD for doing nothing to curb it.
E.g. allow customers who had already registered with AMD Rewards to buy a GPU for a sane price, just one! Some would have flipped them, but most wouldn't. Feels strange to be rooting for Intel right now! 🤯
The 6800 launch was a total clusterfcuk, maybe the worst (and I've lost count how many AMD products I've brought over the last 20 or so years).
Yess these roundups are so helpful