Correction: Hart Parr number 3 is still on loan to the Smithsonian in DC. I thought it had come back. The Hart Parr in this video is just a 30-60 which was one of the more popular models.
The signature board blows my mind. That was back when people took a job and held that job and took some pride in it. I can't imagine what those people were feeling on that day.
Thanks Ethan for giving us a tour of the Oliver tractor museum. I live in Iowa but I've never been there yet I still want to go one day. Thanks Michael
This is such a great Museum, from the Tractor room to the top floor. The people working there are very knowledgeable and can find what you need information wise
I happened upon this pace while on assignment in New Hampton Iowa and was blown away by the rare pieces they had . Well worth the trip for anyone interested in farm equipment.
Thank you for doing this video it was neat looking at the history of Oliver I wish they still made these tractors because they last and made great not the computers and DEF crap like now. Fifty years from now the equipment of now with be junk not running but this old equipment will still be going. Plus back in those days they tested equipment and if it didn’t work they scrapped it now they just draw it up and throw it on the tractor and we have to test it at our expense and if it doesn’t work they don’t care they just sell us the parts to keep it going. Parts changers
I believe the Superior grain drill actually has "opening" disks. The front of the machine is facing the window as determined by the lift lever being on the rear of the drill and the bracket for the pole being on the window side as well.
Wow cool Ethan! Now I'm wondering if any of my dads extended family worked for Oliver. I think some ot them ended up near Charles City. He is originally from Chickasaw County.
Thanks for sharing, I had the grandson down there about 3 years ago. Also I was at the Forest City Iowa Oliver show last summer and heard the XO-121 run.
Sort of Makes you wonder.. a big What If? Glad to see someone on the other side of the isle.....Showing "Green Paint History" Had Oliver been more prominant in our Area of the country.... maybe just maybe There would have been a different shade under our sheds..........
I really appreciate you taking the time to share this. At my age, I will probably not have been able to go see this in person. It is awesome to hear the amount of amazing history you have learned and shared. I'm looking forward to the rest of the videos of your trip. Tell Shelley I said hi. And give teeter a pet for me.
Very nice video but, you've got the grain drill backwards. Those discs aren't closers, they are openers. The pole for the horses would be on the window side.
Those would be opener disks on the horse drawn. They usually had pieces of chain draging behind each row as a means of closing the furrow. I beleave the front of the drill is facing the window.
The corporate tractor has a lot of Minneapolis Moline in it which makes me curious. Is that three speed power shift similar to my G1050? In another comment you said the corporate tractor predates the Case 70 series so that would be a similar age.
Old hard part tractor if it's like the old case tractors they are not fast but they where strong like locomotive on land I seen the old case pulling 20 plough. That was like replacing lots of horse and teamsters but still took some men to run it .
There was an Oliver dealership in town however the brand never really got a foothold. Probably had something to do with the dealer because the Case and Massey Ferguson tractors were far more prevalent . Over the yrs I have had the privilege to get to run a couple of these and really liked them. Styling seems to leave a bit to be desired but find one restored or redone they're still pretty cool. Really appreciate your time trying to give as much history as possible! Also it blows my mind as to the technical research Oliver was doing at the time and like some had said "WHAT IF!!" Could have been a different line of tractors at the forefront today! Looking forward to seeing the next 3 videos on this.
That’s awesome, I hope I can make it up there one day to see it all for myself, the corporate tractor would’ve probably been a world changer if they went into full production
I actually kept myself from watching this video till I got a chance to go see it for myself when my wife and I went to the Half Century of Progress Show. Was very much worth the extra bit of trip on the way out there. Great video and great information. Was good to see you running around at the show as well.
Have you ever looked at the Movies from Oliver, I've seen the Colorblind plow & a few others on TH-cam. Just wondering. I had a list of the Videos that they had on tape and sent them some money for them, they haven't sent any so far. If I remember correctly there were about 100 different movies. Maybe we'll have a better chance of finding something out, as you are more into Oliver than I am.
I’ve got the same 770, diesel. I’m happy to see it has its place in the original museum. Thank you for all the fine work and dedication you have done for Oliver. Oliver has certainly done it’s fair share in shaping the outcome of humanity. I mourn the destruction of the innovative ideas and development. But also remember our sole resolve seems to be humanity has thousand of identical example of greed winning over creative enterprises.
My dad was there for testing of xo121. They went for field test for plowing. They claimed to be 1 gallon of fuel per working hour. My dad said it was real close to that when he was there.
Nice video. How exactly did that test car work? Guessing the power unit drove the rear wheels backwards to put drag on the tractor pulling it. That Superior drill had me baffled how those disks would work but then i realized they actually have it sitting there backwards, the front is facing looking out the window not towards the inside of the rooms like the tractors are. You can see the brackets that the hitch would've bolted up to, and most of those drills were built that the lever there was on the back and curved up over the box towards the front
I really like going there. The tractor room is just the best! That whole museum is just some neat history. Like you said to look at everything in there will take you a good half a day! Can't wait to see the rest of the videos from this trip!
That feeling of seeing the company go down and then receiving your notice of last day of employment sucks! It’s great that you got out there to check out the museum.
Thanks great tour , sure makes ya think of all the hard work the employees put in to the production of the equipment. From turkey creek farms be safe n thankful
Wonder if they made popcorn wagons seen one in the background city of Sandusky Ohio has one that looks like it now ill have to see if there's any markings on it
I toured the plant there in 1968 with our Ag Class in school. It was a complete factory and production line. Memories I still have of walking through it watching them assemble and now I think how crude it actually was to today's standards. Way before OSHA really stuck their fingers in businesses.
Very interesting to see that and i have to add it to my list of places to hit for sure very soon. The A4T Program and the Corp tractor is great to see something on it . I knew a cummins engine guy that had talked about White was pushing to get their engine line up and running. The deal was to make the 429 and a 900+ cubic inch V8 that could be used in trucks and tractors which would carry the plants overhead . I think with the Corp tractor had the potential and made White look more attractive to buy the brand or even the design. That prototype had the potential to compete with Deeres New Gen for sure and kept the country a different shade of green since IH had lost their lead with the 560 screw up.
The APD engines were just the experimental engine designs that were supposed to be built at the new engine facility White was building with Hercules in Ohio. Government shut that down on grounds of a conglomeration because of all the holdings White had at the time so the APD designs never made it out of California.
@@Oliver66FarmBoy I would love to see all the specs on it so if theres any let me know . I do have access to some Machine shops that Cast Custom Blocks and i bet we could come up with a current day version lol
@@Oliver66FarmBoy yes I know that, I was just stating the design looked similar to what the 70 series did. Hope you had a good day my friend I look forward to this mini series 😀
It’s a shame that the CVT didn’t survive that we know of. It’d be really neat to see how it was built and how it worked compared to a modern one. Like lots of things though that design and story is lost to time.
I worked at Western Gear, City of Industry, CA in 1987. One of the staff production control) there had come from Charles City, where he had worked for Oliver. Western Gear was one of the British "Lucas" group holdings (think Jaguar!). $8 Mil in the red when I joined in July, '87....only got worse with the predictable outcome in April of '88!!. Spent 25 years in Southern CA...sigh! Now happily retired north of Denver, CO!!
Correction: Hart Parr number 3 is still on loan to the Smithsonian in DC. I thought it had come back. The Hart Parr in this video is just a 30-60 which was one of the more popular models.
The signature board blows my mind. That was back when people took a job and held that job and took some pride in it. I can't imagine what those people were feeling on that day.
Thanks Ethan for giving us a tour of the Oliver tractor museum. I live in Iowa but I've never been there yet I still want to go one day. Thanks Michael
It’s worth the visit.
This is such a great Museum, from the Tractor room to the top floor. The people working there are very knowledgeable and can find what you need information wise
I happened upon this pace while on assignment in New Hampton Iowa and was blown away by the rare pieces they had . Well worth the trip for anyone interested in farm equipment.
Thank you for taking the time to put these videos together.
Thanks.
Thank you for doing this video it was neat looking at the history of Oliver I wish they still made these tractors because they last and made great not the computers and DEF crap like now. Fifty years from now the equipment of now with be junk not running but this old equipment will still be going. Plus back in those days they tested equipment and if it didn’t work they scrapped it now they just draw it up and throw it on the tractor and we have to test it at our expense and if it doesn’t work they don’t care they just sell us the parts to keep it going. Parts changers
I like these tractors so much I named my first dog after them. He just turned 15 last xmas.
I believe the Superior grain drill actually has "opening" disks. The front of the machine is facing the window as determined by the lift lever being on the rear of the drill and the bracket for the pole being on the window side as well.
Wow this was excellent! Thank you for videoing this and explaining everything so good. Iv always wanted to check out that museum and I will some day.
Worth the trip
Wow cool Ethan! Now I'm wondering if any of my dads extended family worked for Oliver. I think some ot them ended up near Charles City. He is originally from Chickasaw County.
Maybe
Thanks for sharing, I had the grandson down there about 3 years ago. Also I was at the Forest City Iowa Oliver show last summer and heard the XO-121 run.
Due to it's location, my thoughts on the extra lever in the cab of the 2200 is that it is a parking brake lever.Thanks for the video.
Could be.
Great video, that is a lot of history on Oliver that most of us never saw. Thanks for taking your time to share.
Thanks
Very interesting Ethan. I'm sure this was a huge treat for You. Can't wait for the next video. Take care. Fred.
Was fun to see.
Some really Kool old tractors ,very interesting 😂😂😂😂
Sort of Makes you wonder.. a big What If? Glad to see someone on the other side of the isle.....Showing "Green Paint History" Had Oliver been more prominant in our Area of the country.... maybe just maybe There would have been a different shade under our sheds..........
I really appreciate you taking the time to share this. At my age, I will probably not have been able to go see this in person. It is awesome to hear the amount of amazing history you have learned and shared. I'm looking forward to the rest of the videos of your trip. Tell Shelley I said hi. And give teeter a pet for me.
Thanks.
My late father worked for Oliver from 1937 to 1978. This was at the So Bend Plant. In 1960 White Motors bought them out. It was never the same.
Living 30 min outside of Mishawaka IN, it's a shame that White Motor Corp did to Oliver.
Very nice video but, you've got the grain drill backwards. Those discs aren't closers, they are openers. The pole for the horses would be on the window side.
Those would be opener disks on the horse drawn. They usually had pieces of chain draging behind each row as a means of closing the furrow. I beleave the front of the drill is facing the window.
The corporate tractor has a lot of Minneapolis Moline in it which makes me curious. Is that three speed power shift similar to my G1050? In another comment you said the corporate tractor predates the Case 70 series so that would be a similar age.
Mr Baxter from classic tractor fever needs to visit this museum. Nice job
I was born in iowa and my family has a history with tractors and I just saw the museum a couple days ago
Old hard part tractor if it's like the old case tractors they are not fast but they where strong like locomotive on land I seen the old case pulling 20 plough. That was like replacing lots of horse and teamsters but still took some men to run it .
Always love green Oliver with cast iron nose other then allis d19 Oliver is favorite looking tractor
Your videos are all good stuff Ethan👍👍👍
Great video been a few years since I have been up there only being about 3.5 hours away looks like it’s time for another visit
Hart Parr number 3 Is the oldest gasoline Engine tractor
Pretty sure I said that right in the video there bobber…. I was just looking at the wrong tractor when I said it.
White should've just stayed with trucks and forklifts and stayed out of the ag business.
Yep
There was an Oliver dealership in town however the brand never really got a foothold. Probably had something to do with the dealer because the Case and Massey Ferguson tractors were far more prevalent . Over the yrs I have had the privilege to get to run a couple of these and really liked them. Styling seems to leave a bit to be desired but find one restored or redone they're still pretty cool. Really appreciate your time trying to give as much history as possible! Also it blows my mind as to the technical research Oliver was doing at the time and like some had said "WHAT IF!!" Could have been a different line of tractors at the forefront today! Looking forward to seeing the next 3 videos on this.
Never heard anybody say the styling leaves anything to be desired.
Was that unit at 16:00 from the Nebraska test facility ?
Amazing video thank you for the tour
Thanks.
That’s awesome, I hope I can make it up there one day to see it all for myself, the corporate tractor would’ve probably been a world changer if they went into full production
Would have been an interesting turn.
It is cool buddy be safe out there your buddy from Nebraska
Thanks.
I actually kept myself from watching this video till I got a chance to go see it for myself when my wife and I went to the Half Century of Progress Show. Was very much worth the extra bit of trip on the way out there. Great video and great information. Was good to see you running around at the show as well.
It’s awesome you visited the museum I grew up in Floyd county my grandpa was in the Oliver foundry as an inspector for 30 years
Enjoyed your video. Thank you for your time in videoing and sharing your knowledge….
Have you ever looked at the Movies from Oliver, I've seen the Colorblind plow & a few others on TH-cam. Just wondering. I had a list of the Videos that they had on tape and sent them some money for them, they haven't sent any so far. If I remember correctly there were about 100 different movies. Maybe we'll have a better chance of finding something out, as you are more into Oliver than I am.
I’ve got the same 770, diesel. I’m happy to see it has its place in the original museum.
Thank you for all the fine work and dedication you have done for Oliver.
Oliver has certainly done it’s fair share in shaping the outcome of humanity.
I mourn the destruction of the innovative ideas and development. But also remember our sole resolve seems to be humanity has thousand of identical example of greed winning over creative enterprises.
Wish knew needed a parts book for 82 mower I have one I'd sell ya original one as well!! I sold my 82 and got a 415
Great video! Obrien county implement was our dealer we used, nice bunch of guys.
My dad was there for testing of xo121. They went for field test for plowing. They claimed to be 1 gallon of fuel per working hour. My dad said it was real close to that when he was there.
Nice video. How exactly did that test car work? Guessing the power unit drove the rear wheels backwards to put drag on the tractor pulling it. That Superior drill had me baffled how those disks would work but then i realized they actually have it sitting there backwards, the front is facing looking out the window not towards the inside of the rooms like the tractors are. You can see the brackets that the hitch would've bolted up to, and most of those drills were built that the lever there was on the back and curved up over the box towards the front
I seen the xo-121 tractor last summer on it's tour in Nebraska. It was pretty dang cool.
This was a really cool tour, I'm deff going out to see the rest of the museum. Thanks for taking us along
Really wish Oliver could have kept being made there such a neat tractor
Thank you Ethan !!! cant wait to see the rest ,,,,,,,,,,,,,, Great job,,,,
Another brand with amazing tractors but could not keep up with the times
I really like going there. The tractor room is just the best! That whole museum is just some neat history. Like you said to look at everything in there will take you a good half a day! Can't wait to see the rest of the videos from this trip!
That feeling of seeing the company go down and then receiving your notice of last day of employment sucks! It’s great that you got out there to check out the museum.
One of these days we need to visit this museum. Thanks for sharing.
Would you ever donate some equipment to the museum???
Would be great to see the corporate tractor pulling the test car
What town did they run the xo121 in originally
didnt ya blow the air whistle?
DUHHHH
Can’t believe white quit the Oliver and minni motors as to app
You were only 45 minuets north of me.
Extremely cool video!!!
Just wanted to say thank you for keeping the history alive
Thanks.
Thanks great tour , sure makes ya think of all the hard work the employees put in to the production of the equipment. From turkey creek farms be safe n thankful
For sure.
Wonder if they made popcorn wagons seen one in the background city of Sandusky Ohio has one that looks like it now ill have to see if there's any markings on it
No that’s modern.
Thanks Ethan, what a great video. I have been so eager for you to go do this series. Judging by this one, the next 4 will be awesome.
Thanks
Cool stuff Farm Boy
Did you get to do some sleuthing on the 1955 build card or was there not enough time for that this trip?
No. Had other things to do.
Oliver made boat motors? Didn’t know that
It was short lived. Only 4-5 years. They sold out to Johnson or Evanrude if I remember correctly.
Cool Thanks 👍
Great video as usual.
Great vid.
Thank You
Thankyou
Would have looked more like a case 70 series
I toured the plant there in 1968 with our Ag Class in school. It was a complete factory and production line. Memories I still have of walking through it watching them assemble and now I think how crude it actually was to today's standards. Way before OSHA really stuck their fingers in businesses.
Lucky
OSHA doesn’t run businesses . I remember the lack of safety before OSHA and all the missing workers fingers .
Neat!
Thanks!
Very interesting to see that and i have to add it to my list of places to hit for sure very soon. The A4T Program and the Corp tractor is great to see something on it . I knew a cummins engine guy that had talked about White was pushing to get their engine line up and running. The deal was to make the 429 and a 900+ cubic inch V8 that could be used in trucks and tractors which would carry the plants overhead . I think with the Corp tractor had the potential and made White look more attractive to buy the brand or even the design. That prototype had the potential to compete with Deeres New Gen for sure and kept the country a different shade of green since IH had lost their lead with the 560 screw up.
The APD engines were just the experimental engine designs that were supposed to be built at the new engine facility White was building with Hercules in Ohio. Government shut that down on grounds of a conglomeration because of all the holdings White had at the time so the APD designs never made it out of California.
@@Oliver66FarmBoy I would love to see all the specs on it so if theres any let me know . I do have access to some Machine shops that Cast Custom Blocks and i bet we could come up with a current day version lol
Is that the ne tractor lab photo?
The cabs on the corporate model looks like the cabs on the 70 series Case.
Corporate tractor came before the 70 series.
@@Oliver66FarmBoy oh ok. Didn't know that.
If you would take a case 70series apart could you then build a corporate oliver??
Cheers for the tour Ethan.
Thanks
Thanks for the tout
Yep
Greatest tractors ever built from hart park to Oliver to moline to white best ever better then deere FACT
That corporate tractor almost looks like a 70 series case 😮😀 that was a neat part
The corporate tractor pre dates the 70 series.
@@Oliver66FarmBoy yes I know that,
I was just stating the design looked similar to what the 70 series did.
Hope you had a good day my friend I look forward to this mini series 😀
@@frankfarms83 they may have bought the design. Or the designer started to work for case
Great video
Thanks
It’s a shame that the CVT didn’t survive that we know of. It’d be really neat to see how it was built and how it worked compared to a modern one. Like lots of things though that design and story is lost to time.
Basically the CVT agco is now using.
Thanks for this awesome video
Thanks
I worked at Western Gear, City of Industry, CA in 1987. One of the staff production control) there had come from Charles City, where he had worked for Oliver. Western Gear was one of the British "Lucas" group holdings (think Jaguar!). $8 Mil in the red when I joined in July, '87....only got worse with the predictable outcome in April of '88!!. Spent 25 years in Southern CA...sigh! Now happily retired north of Denver, CO!!
From what I little I know of Lucas they were about as good at running business as white.
@@Oliver66FarmBoy Backed by considerable evidence.....🤨
@@Oliver66FarmBoy what is the tractor at #15:50 that was part of the liquidation sale ?