I’m surprised that no one has mentioned that Michael’s hair and mustache are similar to JJ Jameson’s which explains why he’s bullying Dan who is similar to Spider-Man.
This episode really shows why I love Dan so much. He is such a spider-man fanboy, but is not ignoring his faults. He lists them before he goes on his emotional rant. That really showcases his understanding of the character before he expresses his opinion.
The man is DESIGNED to lose. He fails constantly to protect or provide or preserve his loved ones. His struggle to maintain his super-life and his basic human struggle is why so many are drawn to him. The guy saves busloads of people and still struggles to pay rent.
"He should've patented the web-shooters" But...he was 15. Now as someone in his mid-20s (in current canon comics) he's doing the whole Parker Industries thing.
+Gabriel Kenney It's not about legality. If you were 15, and you had super spider powers, and you were struggling to balance a whole secret double life with school and your aunt and uncle; as one of whom not long after got murdered thus setting you on a path of self-discovery and moral-enlightenment; in a world that was soon acquainted to mutants, other super-beings, alien invasions, planet-eating-entities and all that... Also, girls you finally, finally learned to talk to and friends with drug-problems and girlfriend's father's death followed by her own and so forth... Do you think patenting his spidery inventions would be on his teenage mind? Furthermore, now with his own company, he's done exactly that in the comics. Marvel-616 citizens now know Peter Parker as not only the photographer for Spider-Man but also the dude who's built stuff for Spidey to be used in his crime-fighting. So he did think of it and do it, but only when he'd become an adult with awareness and knowledge to do so. As a reader I think this makes sense for his youthful, lighthearted, non-money-hungry, down-to-earth character. Sorry for the long reply. P.S. Name-twin high-five!
Yeah, that actually makes a lot more sense. Superhuman reflexes & strength don't necessarily lend themselves to superhuman priority management, long-term thinking, or intellectual property protection. :) *HIGH FIVE*
+Gabriel Kenney EXACTLY! LoL that's the thing about early-years Pete. He's all about responsibility, but sometimes he gets caught up in his insecurities and "dives headfirst"; ending up making questionable decisions despite being a certified boy genius. I mean, I love all those recklessness and social alienation that made him relatable from Stan Lee & Ditko's Spidey-era-but I'm also happy he's grown up now, because that's what the character was always meant to do. (Sad that some people are actually rooting against him succeeding just because of some perceived mis-delivery on Marvel's creative team's part.)
I'm not a big Spider-Man fan. I don't dislike him but I have never given much love to Peter or Spidey. But Dan's rant at the end of this opened my eyes, I never understood Spider-Man's pain and hardship he subjects himself to because a Spider-Man is needed. I thought he was a jackass who never grew up; I didn't like that he was - to me - an annoying and foolish looser. But unlike all of the people that enter his life and learn a lesson from, or, by being around him, move on and grow, Peter is trapped. He hides who he really is, is hated by the world he protects, and experiences failures in his personal life because of a commitment so grand that it would break any man who would shoulder it. I didn't know how beautiful this character and story is. Well done Cracked and Dan O'Brien, you changed me.
What I really like about Spider-Man is he's essentially a sidekick. He's not a sidekick for any established, confident super hero. There IS no super hero. It's like, can you imagine Robin cleaning up Gotham City by himself? So the draw to Spider-Man is seeing someone who's constantly in over his head, hated by everyone he fights to protect.... but still does it anyway. If you think about it, he's the most selfless superhero around.
Exactly. He's *our* hero, us being nerdy social outcasts. He's not an alien raised on a farm, or a billionaire with all the combat training ever. It's why he's still the #1 box office draw. God I can't wait for Homecoming.
except everyone loves Spider-Man except j Jonah Jameson for no reason.Spider-Man has multiple times saved him and his family yet he continues to hate him.
+nunya2587 j jonah Jameson, is biased and judgmental. plus he doesn't really hate superman he just prefers the idea of spiderman being a villain simply cause it sells better. plus his newspaper actually effects a lot of his readers and causes a lot of hate and doubt concerning batman. the characters who matter, the ones we see know better but everyone else not so much and you can understand why. it's not like spiderman 's heroic exploits are tooted by the media or newspapers. he genuinely does it for the good of all with very selfless intentions despite everyone taking a dump on him for it. which is why the second spiderman movie with Toby mcguire is so compelling. it answers the question of what if spidey just stopped. what if any superhero just stopped really.
Spiderman was allways and will continue to always be my favorite superhero for these reasons. It's another reason why I hate miles morales Bc I feel like there is only one and only one true Spiderman and that's nerdy Peter that I grew up watching
+Vicente Parker O my god why will u say that his " job" is the take photos of exciting things and it's open to the public someone else could take a better picture and get the money
Ok, lets do this. 1. Spider-Man keeps his identity secret from Aunt May because he's afraid the stress created by her knowing he's in mortal danger all the time would hurt her. He tells his girlfriends eventually, if it gets serious, but obviously not at first (imagine revealing your most personal and incriminating secret to someone you're just starting to go out with and may end up hating you if it's a messy breakup or something). 2. Peter needs a flexible job (in terms of time and location) so that he can be Spider-Man at a moment's notice. Also, being a photographer for a newspaper gives him access to potential threats and their details forming within the city (and access to previous records to help him in his detective work). 3. Pretty much every hero and villain in the Marvel Universe has something to do with technology/science/progress (with the exception of non-powered and mystical characters). That stuff isn't evil, it's a source of power (and with great power comes great responsibility; I had to say it). 4. Spider-Man's web-shooters are not that useful without the strength, agility, durability, and omnipresent sense to back them up. Web slinging would dislocate your shoulders, anything you wanted to grab would now be covered in web, super villains could use the webline against you once you've hit them (because they're stronger), it couldn't be used as a building material or anything because it dissolves in an hour or two. You'd be able to neutralize enemies with nonlethal force, but there's already tonnes of inventions to do that; besides, once you've webbed the suspect, what are you going to do in terms of transportation now that they're covered in web? It's way easier to use tasers, tear gas, pepper spray, etc and then arrest them than having to cut them free of the web and then put them in handcuffs so you can move them. I've got some pretty big problems with Dan's defence of Spidey too, but I won't go into them since it is technically a defence.
In the comics, Spider-Man is sometimes seen using a spray that can dissolve the webbing instantly. Also, it dissolving in an hour was a feature Peter built into it. He could likely formulate a more permanent solution. Tasers can malfunction and cause much more pain than is necessary, or can simply be used maliciously for that purpose. Tear gas and pepper spray have the same cruelty issue, not to mention that some people can be allergic to them. Plus any gas based weapon is going to be much more difficult to control. Easy to hurt people who aren't even involved. Webbing solves all of these issues. You do make a good point, with them being much more effective for people with super strength. But, coupled with a powered exoskeleton, webbing would allow police some kind of weapon against superpowered individuals, when guns are ineffective. As is, the police force is shown to be entirely helpless against supervillains. Also, and I'm surprised this never comes up... Peter Parker knows a brilliant biologist and geneticist. Dr. Connor. Sure, he becomes the Lizard later, but even then he retains his intelligence. ...so, why hasn't he ever tried to reverse engineer his superpowers? His blood could be used, in conjunction with the spider that bit him, to formulate a super soldier serum. Create an army of Spider-Men. I always wondered, did the lab that spider came from ever find out that they made a massive breakthrough that could have made them trillions of dollars? We'll never know, because Peter Parker was too "awkward" (read: selfish) to come forward with his knowledge. ...btw, Peter Parker is my favorite hero, so I'm definitely not just making fun of him. It's just interesting to think about what could have been. Lol
I completely agree with 1,2 and 3, but for 4 the big thing is that the web shooters are an example of Peter's intellect that could be applied better, instead of solely in the risky role of superhero making gadgets and foiling villians- which is refuted by the comics themselves eventually, I think he has a company now? For Dan's defense, it all boils down to the biggests flaws of Spiderman as a character existing because the writers keep trying to have him be that teenager in over his head, when they let him move on those flaws disappear. Though I am not up to date on the comics so take this position with more than a few grains of salt.
Spider-man did actually attempt to sell the web fluid when he was short on money fairly early on, however the buyers backed out when they realised it isnt permanent, i.e. the web disintegrates after a while
Wouldn't that be good? Isn't the webbing so strong that nearly no one can break it? If it didn't go away after a while. They would attach people to the walls or flood, and cover their faces, then those people would die from lack of food and water, and be unable to move. It makes no sense that THAT would be the reason. Also you would wonder if those buyers ever put two and two together. Someone invited web shooting, then days later hey, there is this superhero spider that is shooting those exact same webbings. Also after he starts using it, showing it works, wouldn't they want to use that too, seeing it actually working, especially against super villains who are much more stronger and dangerous than normal criminals?
Peter Parker went to the buyers in Spider-Man form (not normal clothes). The buyers essentially wanted to sell a new type of very strong adhesive - so it makes sense that they were unhappy with the fact the webbing (glue to them) was non permanent
Warbo Entertainment Oh, well then Duh. Selling it as glue/adhesive is stupid. They were talking about selling it to the Military and Cops to use as non-lethal weaponry. Even just to private military, or companies to use for security. How about his OWN company in the newer spiderman comics, does his own company's security have non-lethal web shooting weapons? Especially since we know it DOES work on some villains, and most criminals.
Ok to clear up a few things. 1.) Peter HAS tried to sell his web shooters in the comics, but gets laughed out by investors "cause he invented a glue that only last an hour" 2.) In the comics while alot a science based villains, that not cause tech= evil in the marvel universe. it cause in the 60's when they heroes and villains were made it was in the height of nuclear war fears of the cold war, and in the "coming home" story line from 15 years ago. Ezekiel Sims an older man with Spider powers. gave a mythic reason of a spider god doing it. saying "what was it Peter, Did Radiation give you the spider's powers, or did radiation just kill the spider that was already giving them to you," 3.) MJ has always known he was Spider-man in the comics since Amazing Fantasy (yes I know that was a recon) 4.) Peter doesn't tell Aunt May cause he doesn't know if her health can handle it,and the few times she found she had "died" (Amazing Spider-Man 400) or been shot (Marvel Civil War) 5.) only a few villain know Peter is Spider-man, and currently in the comics only Dr. Octopus knows, but he's dead. but before Civil War the only villains that knew where the Green Goblins (Norman and Harry), Jackal, Venom, and Scorpion. out of 100's of villains only 5 found out. and currently only 1 knows. and 6.) Peter could not be Spider-Man, and make money of his abilities. but he doesn't cause "With Great Power, comes great responsibility" having power isn't about making money of them. He goes out there every night trying to make sure that he uses he powers to help those in need, because the one time he didn't his uncle was killed. So Peter risks his life for everyone.
thanks for all the one ups lol. Another thing "Parker Industries". Currently in the comics Peter owns his own company, Similar to Tony Stark (minus the drinking, and screwing random women). Not only has he used that company for making Spider-Man tech, but he also CAME UP WITH A SUPER PRISON FOR SUPER VILLAINS, THAT GIVES THEM REBAH, AND CAN CURE THEM OF THEIR SUPER POWERS! He even gave an ex super villain "Clash" a job at his company. Cause everyone needs a second chance.
Game! What an accomplishment Daniel. You won this argument in the second you chose to be part of it. That and because I kinda feel bad for you, is why I give you a point. Daniel: 10 Soren: 7 Katie: 7 Michael: 7
4:17 - Considering that cops just shot a deaf dude who happened to have a stick the other day, I had to double check the date on this video. I nearly fell out of my chair.
listen is it just me or is tousle-haired bearded DOB getting worked up about the emotional ramifications of peter parker's life (4:33 onwards) super attractive
As pointed out, most of these point fall under the category of 'Peter being a stupid teen' 1: Why didn't he tell his loves ones who he was? At the time he didn't want Aunt May to worry herself to death about him, and did eventually tell those close to him like MJ. 2: Peter took pic's of Spidey because as a teen supported by a widow on a fixed income he needed money, and taking pics of himself as Spidey was the best job he could get where he didn't have to punch a clock and like Superman it allowed him to stay informed on breaking crime 3: All the villains representing science being bad. This is a staple of the superhero genre.. Nearly all heroes face villains who's powers come from the same source. X-men faces mutants, Cap faces political nuts, Thor faces dark magic, Hulk faces radiation monsters, Batman faces people who don't have power, ect. 4: Peter did try to sell his formula and was turned down because it dissolves in an hour, the webbing has been show to be far less versatile without super strength, and there have been many stories that have explored the idea of Peter using his brains to peruse a carrier as a top scientists, including having him be part of brain trust and working for Stark. Also as pointed out. MOST superheroes aren't allowed to grow up. Hell One More Day was created specifically because the editors hated that Peter had been allowed to grow up, and wanted to to to retcon the last 20 years and make him an awkward teen again.
But after the events of Superior Spiderman. Peter has his own company, he's a genius but he has to limit himself the to doc ocks little joyride with his body.
shadowspider9 Yeah that one thing that has pissed me off, Peter's love life, the only good thing going, had to be ruined because some asshat writer hit a creative dead end
Edward DeGuzman I honestly wish that was the case. OMD happened because the head of Marvel, Joe Quesada, hated that Spider-man had grown up, that he wasn't the same Spider-man he read when he was a kid. So he threw a tantrum and forced them to make Peter single again simply so Peter could have the same romantic and financial trouble he had when Quesada was reading him. Then to throw salt in the wound issue 1 after OMD had Peter shaking up with a new character based on Quesada's daughter. It was basically bad fanfiction made canon.
shadowspider9, all the comics made in modern times written by normie SJWS like the people working at Cracked have ruined the comic industry, and Dan is the only person that worked at Cracked that isn’t a normie like Michael, Katie, and Soren are.
Hasn't it already been well established numerous times that if Spider-Man stopped being Spider-Man and ignored his powers to focus on his studies and be more like Peter Parker that he would be among the smartest and most successfull people on the planet? I don't know how high Peter Parker ranks in the Marvelverse of hyperintelligent people, but it's gotta be pretty high up. Being Spider-Man is exactly what's holding him back from achieving success, be it in the field of science, social life or romance but like Daniel said, he was a teenager when he got his powers. He wanted fame and cool powers and the public's adoration. By the time he figured out that Spider-Man was more of a detriment to his life then a help, he was already too deep in. He had already made enemies and achieved notoriety, but he had also already made himself a hero to the smallfolk. He's the guy who helps the common New Yorker as much as the one fighting supervillains. He's the guy that stops the purse snatcher or rapist in a dark alley as much as he is the guy that gets his reputation smeared by the Bugle. By the time he figured out how deep the shit he was in actually was, it was too late to just stop being Spider-Man. Basically, from the moment Uncle Ben died, he was destined to remain Spider-man, with all the good and bad that comes with it.
Sorry, but this argument is flawed. Yes, Peter's priorities changed when Uncle Ben was shot and his double-life as Spider-Man gets in the way of his personal/professional life, but Peter was a guilt-racked nerd from year dot. Even without super-heroics he always worries whether he's doing the right thing and whether he's a good person, so even without his secret identity he'd probably still be an emotional train wreck. You ever read Marvel's "What If" comics - there's loads where Peter never gets super-powers but still has the same internal turmoil (and, in a lot of them, still becomes a hero).
+Xylarxcode Yeah, actually right now he owns Parker Industries. He is essentially Tony Stark right now. Still Spidey-ing it up but is a multi-multi-multi-billionare. So yeah as of the last, idk 5 years in comics, he isnt anything like how main stream fans think he is. All nerdy and self doubting. He is confident, swag as fuck, has had many different girlfriends, rolling in dough, and not hated by anyone really other than JJJ. Which is funny considering JJJ is/was married to Aunt May lololol
Holy heck, T1J! Didn't expect to see you (or anyone, for that matter) here on an 11 year old video! I had to come back to this one after watching Across the Spider-Verse - and if I'm honest with myself, I'll probably be back again after the third film. It felt pretty relevant to those movies, too. Now I guess I finally have to go back and watch No Way Home...
Charming Cthulu So you sat there thinking: "Wait, write? This guy isn't very good at writing, I don't think he is qualified to do the thing he is saying he should be. AND he is being entirely sincere, I believe every word."
UPDATE: If you read the most recent issues, Spidey DID eventually patent his weaponry and made a small fortune. One of my favorites was special noise canceling headphones that was originally used to fight the new Hobgoblin (whose laugh could destroy a person's inner ear.), but then Spidey tweaked it so it could be used by the general public.
2:40 Kraven the Hunter: the complete opposite of technological progress, He is just an old school hunter that think spiderman would be a lot of fun to hunt, plus he was part of the sinister six and is there for one of the original spiderman villans.
Alazariel Anderson Hey, for the record, half of these "After Hours" episodes will make you feel sad knowing about the cold hard truth about some of the things that you enjoy watching or reading about for entertainment.
most of them make me sad because of how little most of them know about the actual source material, like with the whole batman debate, they were wrong, about every part of that debate
MegaHI32 I'm a huge fan of most of the things they talk about and I don't really mind that they askew the facts a bit sometimes because these sketches are basically dome for comedic effect. an exaggeration of the real thing. not to be taken genuinely and I like seeing the things I love be challenged. sure sometimes the cross the line for me (I couldn't watch the Lord of the rings episode at all) but I love that these videos are basically just people who do love the source material but just want to make us laugh about them it's the same thing behind cinema sins or the movie trailer series. though I do genuinely love that they took this episode down a more serious route and how it's very much in character for them. especially daniel
Except Superman. He's saved Lois, Jimmy and Perry White for decades. Now Spidey failed at saving Gwen and Capt. John Stacy in the '70s. Green Lantern Kyle Rayner failed to protect his girlfriend from being Stuffed in the Fridge (Trope Namer) by Major Force.
except Superman constantly causes mass property damage to metropolis whenever he's fighting Zod or Doomsday when it would have been easier to fly them out of the area. Black Panther is arguably good at protecting people. He's a master tactician, martial artist, tech innovator AND king of his own country ALL AT ONCE! It's gotta take real skill to orchestrate all of that at once. Black Panther is best hero, confirmed.
This is, hands down, the best After Hours episode in my opinion. It feels personal and real. The jokes work well and the observations cut to the core of the character in a real way without much of the smoke and mirrors 'we can't see the forest for the trees' nonsense you usually get with this kind of stuff. Fantastic episode.
It's so cute that he loves spiderman. Spiderman is my favorite superhero too. >.< But it's probably for a different reason -- I like spidey because of his quirky dialogue.
Just my opinion, but I don't really like DC that much (except Batman, of course). There for, for me there is no Marvel vs DC. Only Marvel vs Batman. :P
They need tighter restrictions on hazardous chemicals in Gotham, think about it, Joker-fell into a vat of chemicals Mr.Freeze-fell into a vat of chemicals Two-Face-Had chemicals splashed on his face Clay-face-Don't know exactly but ti involved chemicals Poison Ivy-Mutated by toxins and chemicals Ra's-Al-Ghul-Uses the Lazarus pit to stay alive Bane-Uses Venom Scarecrow-Uses fear toxin
kite man got knocked out and hat a mental breakdown involving kites, zebraman had radiation, riddler in the original versions was legitimately just insane and had no "accident" that turned him criminal,
i think somebody's forgetting spiderman's actual origins. he does what he does out of guilt and so he could get revenge on his uncle ben's killer personally. he probably wanted satisfaction in knowing that he stoppped the killer like dexter does in the tv show "dexter". from there, peter parker continued to dispense justice as the amazing spiderman!
those are his origins(in most canon universes of spider-man) sure, but the conclusion they reach regards the state of spider-man in pretty much every continuity a spider-man has ever existed in.
This video is more real than people know. Fans of Spider-Man get really heated when people hate on him because despite all the good Peter tries to do, he always... ALWAYS gets the short end of the stick. Anyone who has stuck with him knows the heartache he's been through and will emotionally jump at the opportunity to defend the guy, including yours truly.
In some universes he grows up, he's a teenager, he dies and passes on the mantle to Miles Morales, Doc Ock possesses him, etc. Comic book characters do age, but the series featuring them tend to jump around a bit, often showing the most popular but different interpretations (hence Amazing and Ultimate Spider-Man).
This conversation is exactly why Superior Spider-man was so good. A super-villain comes along, takes over his body, runs his life way better than he ever did. Which, in turn, makes Peter actually take a look at his life and realize that he just got so used to things being horrible, he never thought to change.
Awww!! I hate seeing my bæ Daniel struggle😢 but when he's able to stand up for what he loved, it just solidified my love for him 99999999999999999999999999999999998999999979999999699999959999994999999939999999299999991 times!!😍 P.s spiderman is also my favorite super hero
Here's my list of reasons why the 1980s is a perfect setting for a Spider-Man film series:1)It was probably the best decade of teenage pop culture,we could see Spidey relate to all that stuff in that decade. 2)It would be a very challenging time for the hero since it was the time the Cold War was probably at its most dangerous level. 3)It was the time comics were growing darker in a world dominated by gritty violence and noir threats.Peter Parker actually managed to stay above it all. So,what do you think?
+Anthony Nunez I could picture a side/subplot being about how J.J uses his paper to make the people believe that spiderman is part of some KGB secret weapon to gain the trust of the american people and then when they least expect it he turns on them.
+Anthony Nunez I would love to see that topic covered in a After Hours.. I'm a big X-men fan it would be nice to see them roasted. Get to work on that Cracked Team.
Isaac Langan, normies like Katie, Michael, and Soren seems to forget that superhero comics have alternate Universes, and that there isn’t just one single Universe, so a lot of Katie’s, Soren’s, and Michael’s arguments fails if you’re only basing your arguments only on the main continuity of superhero comics.
My family would bug me not to do anything super heroic so I don't get hurt. or some of them would try to guilt me into selfish favors. or my younger brother can't keep a secret and has Loki's "the world owes me and I got slighted" mentality and given power, would probably be a pain in the ass villain to deal with simply because killing him would tear my family apart... You know, that wouldn't make a bad comic book.
To be fair to Peter, a lot of his family (what little he has left) probably wouldn't be all that supportive - Aunt May's a paranoid worrywart who seems to think her nephew is made of glass. So it's no real surprise that Peter doesn't tell them about his secret identity.
Spider-Man is probably the greatest hero of all time along with Captain America and Superman. Ironman is probably the most efficient though as he: Has no problem with killing unlike Spider-Man who thinks its "immoral" Has no code of honor that keeps him from being a few steps above his enemies unlike Captain America who prefers his shield over a high tech suit of armor. He isn't afraid of being in charge nor will he EVER be anybody's lap dog unlike Superman.(Red Son, Dark Knight Returns) His only problem is that he's always wrong but that's what he has Cap for I guess. He'd totally clean up Gotham City in a month though.
Zain Peterson If Superman wasn't a labdog for the US/UN, then he wouldn't have been a lapdog for the USSR. That was the whole point of the story. It is canon btw, it just happened on Earth-30. It was also the point of Alan Moore's Dr. Manhattan. Moore just took the all powerful government lapdog to its logical end. Yes, Superman has developed more of a backbone, but that is a response to previous criticism, and to a degree remains a part of his character. Take him renouncing his US citizenship for example. He didn't actually stand up to the government, nether The US's nor Iran's, and allowed both to continue the mistreatment of their people.
What about Venom? Carnage? Toxin? That annoying period of time in which Spider-Man was fighting vampires with Black Cat? That's not science creating villains. Besides, most of the Marvel characters are created based on whatever new science at the time was coming up. Gamma radiation led to Hulk, other radiation led to Spider-Man, mutation led to X-Men. It's sort of Stan Lee's trademark, using whatever is unknown at the time and pretending it is capable of turning people into superhumans.
mutants was just him being lazy, he has said so himself, but you can swap mutants with the fantastic four, and the entire marvel ultimate universe, and the marvel cinematic universe
No, I meant it. All of the marvel characters use (very) loose science to get their powers, with a select few exceptions. Saying that technology is evil is a stupid argument to make against the Spider-Man comics.
Actually Peter wasn't transformed by an accident with an experiment. It was the Spider-Totem granting those powers to him (the chosen champion to the web of life) through a destined event (the accident). So it wasn't science gone wrong, but spiritual forces that made science go wrong.
Isaac Friedman It's something Ezekiel Sims, the Spider-Champion before Peter, has told him. It's also something Julia Carpenter, the new Madame Web, has made hints to, when she told Peter, that his clone Kane would be a candidate for the new champion, giving Peter the possibility to stopp been Spider-Man as a kind of reward from the Web of Life. However, he chose to continue being Spider-Man.
Rico Valentin Most of this has been retconned anyways. In the "One More Day" storyline, Peter was given the chance at a happy family, married to Mary Jane, and the possibility of a daughter, the only down side was Aunt May passing away; however, even after Aunt May told Peter that she was happy to be able to see Uncle Ben again, Peter still did the unthinkable and made a bargain with Mephisto where Peter's current happiness and marriage was traded away so Peter could undo everything and return to a life before hand. To a time where Peter did not have his totemic powers, Aunt May was alive, and no longer married.
Correction: Spiderman is an adult who grew up in a very unfortunate life without his parents. He had to grow up at one point in order to make it on his own, even when Uncle Ben tried to tell him something. Eventually, Peter Parker would have to take on the responsibility of saving the world even if it meant being hated, because some people are too busy living in their own worlds due to what they were taught as children. In some cases, Spiderman dealt with issues we as the audience would come to understand and love about Peter, especially in Ultimate Spiderman. In retrospect, he may have the heart of a kid, but he's a mature adult who might secretly wish life wasn't complicated for him and his loved ones. Because just like Dan, who is also important to many people like myself because we relate in many ways, even though I also relate to Kate, Michael and Soren too, because he deserves to be loved and respected like everyone else. Peter Parker is just a misunderstood soul like everyone else in the world. Just like him, the superheroes do their best to protect humanity and their loved ones from hurt, even if it means getting hurt in the process. We are all unique in our own way, especially Spiderman. He may be hated by some people, but others choose to love and support him. Those who hate him and the other protectors of our world probably weren't used to different things and people who are different from them.
Just realized this years later but the reason spider-man cant sell his web-shooters is because no one else can use it. You need super-strength to use the webs due to their tensile strength
You don't need super strength to restrain a bad guy with them, it would be like a net gun but better. You only need the strength if you're flinging yourself off buildings to swing around which arguably would be the dumbest practical application of web shooters for a regular person.
Spiderman's Logic: Villain: I'm looking for spiderman! Peter: Well I'm not Spiderman. Villain: Yes but you get perfectly posed pictures of him therefore you are the only person that knows him directly and even on a personal basis so Immah kidnap yah ass.
You know, he's got a point. Why is it the writers of Spider-Man have NEVER let him grow up and mature? Sure, he's aged. Heck, he's even died... multiple times! But emotionally, he is still a high school kid who is constantly bullied and ridiculed and in general has a sucktastic life. Other main characters of Marvel have evolved and matured over the years. Spider-Man has not and probably will never be able to, because the writers don't know how to possibly make Peter Parker an adult now. Look, I love Spider-Man, he's my favorite hero period. But for the love of Stan Lee, will the writers please be realistic. After everything he's been through, the Peter Parker should be the most mature adult on the planet, not a whiny, selfish teenager.
That's probably his character. If they never made him grow up, it's because they never intended him to. It's not like Marvel writers know character development, except when they have to write Spidey comics. I'm pretty sure they choose not to for a reason. He's somewhat of a timeless demographic. Struggling teenagers who have to deal with school/love/responsibility etc. You could pretty much reshape that and market it again for every coming generation.
Yeah, I can see that. But at the same time, he's developed in other ways - he finished high school, went to college and graduated, got married to MJ and a bunch of other things I can't remember right now. More than that, the readers have grown up, gone to college, gotten married, etc. so why hasn't the character? I admit, Linkara first raised this point and I'm partially quoting here, but I think he's right. Everyone else in the Marvel universe gets to change and mature and grow emotionally, even freaking immortal Wolverine, but not Spider-Man. My simple question is this: why? And darn it I want a good answer!
Rae Prite A good answer might not come forward. Lol so let's treat it as one of those it's better if we don't know, situations. I'm 22 right now, so I haven't really "grown" out of Spiderman yet. But I'm sure once I hit my 30s I'll start to get irked at why he hasn't gotten his shit together yet.
*Sigh* Probably not. I haven't either (20 btw) and I can't say if I'll ever get sick of Spider-Man completely, I'd just like a little bit more realism once in a while. Or at least one day when some character - Iron Man maybe, or Mr. Fantastic - just looks at Spidey and says 'you know, your life is pretty messed up, and you still act like you're 18. Why is that? How are you not properly bitter and angry at the world by now, given how much crap you've been through? Logically it makes no sense'. And with absolute seriousness, Spider-Man will reply, 'no, it doesn't make sense'. I doubt that will ever happen, but still, one can dream.
Rae Prite You would think tho, with all these Spiderman alternates and timelines, one of them would explore what would happen if he grew up. I mean only thing they explore is how more fucked up they can make his life.
To all the people commenting about Parker Industries, this episode came out in early 2013, before the Superior Spider-Man run, so Parker Industries did not exist yet. However, Peter was at Horizon Labs, no longer taking pictures for the Bugle.
Nozergram Gaming I just read your comment thread dissing Batman for not having any superpowers, while praising two others just as powerless because they have flashier toys. Green Lantern? Willpower? Please, Batman's will is just as strong and he could use it far better. Iron Man? Without his suit, he's a horrible fighter, and remove his arc reactor, and he's dying. Even after his lifesaving surgery he still couldn't fight without his armor. Neither one has a quarter of Batman's tactical genius or combat experience independent of any artificial enhancements. remove their special gadgets and they're merely human, and vulnerable. Take away Batman's gadgets and he's still a master martial artist beyond any real human ever, as well as a brilliant detective, tactician and warrior. His being able to defeat Superman isn't so unbelievable when you consider that Superman's most persistent nemesis is Lex Luthor, who brought Superman to his knees multiple times without even Batman's combat ability. You forget, Superman has a weakness. Power doesn't make the super hero; it never did, that's how villains think. It doesn't matter what kind of power you have or where it comes from; it only matters _what you do with it!_. If all you care about is the flash and glitter of superpowers, you *missed the point!*
zemorph42 Hello. Its been a while since I have used youtube. Ive been at comicons. IRONICALLY, talking about superheros. Listen. You look at these superheros, and you treat them like they are real. Are super heros real? No. Iron man, I admit, under many circumstances WOULD loose to batman. But, only if batman had his full arsenal. Batman, hands alone, would not be able to do that. Now, green lantern, I believe is much better than batman. And not only because he can do much more, but he actually has a mystical, flashy story line. One that I look for in a super hero. Im not dissing batman. Im simply saying that he is NOT, a super hero. In fact, I LOVE batman. Batman is AMAZING to me. HE just IS NOT a super hero.Just because he knows martial arts, does not mean that he is gonna kick ass left and right. Spider man would easily outmatch batman. With or without his arsenal. Now, to the point. You saying that powers are not the point. Well, let me introduce you to BUSINESS. Now, im gonna look at your profile picture, and assume you at LEAST 30 years old, maybe in your 20's. I really hope your not though, because if so, well, thia is just sad for your age. But, anyway. Superheros. SUPER-heroes. They have powers man. POWERS. Thats what separates super-heroes from heroes. Batman is a hero. NOT, a super hero. super heroes have super powers so they appeal to the audience. Super powers sell. If I go by your logic, I could say, "There once was a 9 year old who went to karate class and learned how to defend himself. HE IS NOW A SUPER HERO!!!" Yea thats not how it works. So you can do one of 2 things now. Either keep arguing, fighting in a battle you already lost. Or, you could realize your ACTUALLY in the wrong, and call it quits. But, im guessing your gonna keep going, seeing that you act as though your a 12 year old. So, I eagerly await your reply. ^-^
Nozergram Gaming How come Lex Luthor managed to become a super villain _with no powers!_ Lex had exactly the same advantage as Bruce; both were filthy rich and both super geniuses, yet Lex gets to be super and Batman doesn't? Double standard in favor of the bad guy. As long as Lex Luthor gets to be called a super villain, I'm going to call Batman a super hero. Yes, I do know they aren't real; I talk about them in the context of their respective universes. No, going to karate class wouldn't make anyone a superhero, But if they MASTER more than 7 different martial arts, as well as forensics and strategy, they're getting close. _But, anyway. Superheros. SUPER-heroes. They have powers man. POWERS_ _green lantern...actually has a mystical, *flashy* story line. One that I look for in a super hero._ Who's acting like a 12 year old?
zemorph42 you are so right though he’s just a man, right? That’s not to say that Batman doesn’t have a superpower. His mind is his power; within it lurks a deadly, but prefectly balanced combination of insurmountable anguish, indomitable conviction, unparalleled genius and just a sprinkling of mental instability. Rarely in comics do plight and power marry so seamlessly.
Actually power does make a super hero. Power does not make a HERO. Batman is not a super hero, he is a hero. Super heroes have powers. But yeah I agree with you. Batman is the best hero ever!
Why do people say batman is like the best super hero? He is alright, but he gets to much credit. He should not be considered a super hero. Thor, mystical god powers, spiderman, does whatever a spider can, Green Lantern, super light rings of LAZARS PEW PEW, batman, sharp pieces of metal and mentally disturbed.
Einstein was intelligent but he was not called a super hero, it would be cooler if batman had an accident like the daredevil or something, I don't know. But still, Batman gets to much credit for what its worth.
Does anyone know if the original cast gets royalties or anything from this. If so I'm consider resubbing because I love coming back to watch these every once in a while.
How there are no more spider-men if the spider that bit peter parker is just walking around? How there's no story about that spider? How come no one remembered to capture it?
Lizard Princess Isn't Man-Spider derived from the same experiment? Or, was he a failed Spider-Man clone, like the 4-armed "Doppelganger" in the game "Maximum Carnage"?
Spider-Man is my favorite super hero of all time! I find that he is the most relatable, for me anyway, of all the super hero's out there because of all the challenges he faces in his day to day life with his uncle dying and being a teenager while trying to protect the ones he loves and still finding time for school villains and family and keeping it all secret. He has probably the hardest life out of any of the super hero's which I think makes even better and more relatable.
Okay my only lucid dream I ever had was when I was a kid. I was spider man. I was strong as hell, and I could fly all over the world. It was the single most exhilarating experience I ever had.
Tee Chaita I am an adult, I mostly do not watch kids shows. But if he is in highschool its fine, but in the comics he was not and he just never grew up.
***** Many of the animated series make him a high-school teen in his last years. Some make him at best a college student. Same for the movies, he simply is not allowed to grow up, which is kind of the real problem of the character. He is a Peter Pan that is forced to stay in Neverland by the writers while he himself seems to actually really like to grow up. As he is often portrait as someone who actually learns from his life lessons and constantly is growing up. He just gets rebooted so often.
vanthursday No, he actually is not a teenager anymore in most of the comics. hence why he could marry Mary Jane , and in turn the debacle that is one more day happen.
1:31 Think about it. Your loved one is a Superhero that you know is not invincible, gets beatdown and almost killed on the regular, ypu would be a total wreck thinking if this time is the time he doesn't make it back. Also, all his fights are on TV for you to worry and see!! Aunt May would have hard tons of heart attacks and strokes seeing all the stuff Peter goes through. Then when its gets to be too much, you will tell that hero to stop being who they are, even though you know they won't and can't. You have to leave them.
I thought Peter Parker TRIED to sell his web fluid to a construction company, but was turned down when he explained that the web fluid only lasted for one hour.
Did you guys really just argue that Peter's web shooters could be used by cops when the formula for the webs have enough tensile strength to rip a normal human's arms off. And even if they didn't what's to stop bad guys from getting a hold of it if it were an effective enough tool to use against their enemies.
What about rescue or construction applications? Peter Parker obviously just wanted to have fun with it for awhile but then things snowballed and now he is stuck in superhero mode.
Maphisto86 Problem is: not everyone is going to use it for rescue and construction applications, police brutality is real, after all. So I'd still say that the whole Spider-man comic book conveyed its meaning well, great power, great responsibility, after all. Can't let people running around with dangerous weapons all the time now, can we?
There are many other potential applications. Spider silk with the strength of titanium and the weight of actual thread could be woven into cloth and used as body armour. His invention could save the lives of tens of thousands of soldiers operating overseas!
***** He died in Amazing Spider-Man 700, Superior Spider-Man has been Otto the entire time. Don't worry, changes like these are never permanent. Pete will be back in time for the next movie. Ghost Pete has even returned in Superior. At the time I posted that comment, there was no form of Peter Parker's mind or spirit left, besides Ock's impersonation. He was technically dead, but we all knew he would be brought back somehow.
I feel like Uncle Ben's, "With great power, comes great responsibility" line, followed by him dying was a major factor in his self-loathing/guilt. He is stuck in a self destructive spiral trying to redeem himself for "killing" his uncle.
Nooooooo, why would you go with the point that Spider-man teaches us that science is evil...? That's the lamest argument you guys have ever come up with so far... nooooooooooo... that's the same as saying that Harry Potter is telling us that magic is evil, come on...
the after hours playlist needs to be put back in published order. As it is, it feels like I hit shuffle (I didn't) and its flipflopping between early and late ones.
I’m surprised that no one has mentioned that Michael’s hair and mustache are similar to JJ Jameson’s which explains why he’s bullying Dan who is similar to Spider-Man.
This episode really shows why I love Dan so much. He is such a spider-man fanboy, but is not ignoring his faults. He lists them before he goes on his emotional rant. That really showcases his understanding of the character before he expresses his opinion.
The man is DESIGNED to lose. He fails constantly to protect or provide or preserve his loved ones. His struggle to maintain his super-life and his basic human struggle is why so many are drawn to him.
The guy saves busloads of people and still struggles to pay rent.
"He should've patented the web-shooters"
But...he was 15.
Now as someone in his mid-20s (in current canon comics) he's doing the whole Parker Industries thing.
+Gabriela Moekoe There's no age limit on filing a patent. If he can make the Shooters, he can sign a couple papers.
+Gabriel Kenney It's not about legality. If you were 15, and you had super spider powers, and you were struggling to balance a whole secret double life with school and your aunt and uncle; as one of whom not long after got murdered thus setting you on a path of self-discovery and moral-enlightenment; in a world that was soon acquainted to mutants, other super-beings, alien invasions, planet-eating-entities and all that... Also, girls you finally, finally learned to talk to and friends with drug-problems and girlfriend's father's death followed by her own and so forth... Do you think patenting his spidery inventions would be on his teenage mind?
Furthermore, now with his own company, he's done exactly that in the comics. Marvel-616 citizens now know Peter Parker as not only the photographer for Spider-Man but also the dude who's built stuff for Spidey to be used in his crime-fighting.
So he did think of it and do it, but only when he'd become an adult with awareness and knowledge to do so. As a reader I think this makes sense for his youthful, lighthearted, non-money-hungry, down-to-earth character.
Sorry for the long reply.
P.S. Name-twin high-five!
Yeah, that actually makes a lot more sense. Superhuman reflexes & strength don't necessarily lend themselves to superhuman priority management, long-term thinking, or intellectual property protection. :)
*HIGH FIVE*
+Gabriel Kenney EXACTLY! LoL that's the thing about early-years Pete.
He's all about responsibility, but sometimes he gets caught up in his insecurities and "dives headfirst"; ending up making questionable decisions despite being a certified boy genius.
I mean, I love all those recklessness and social alienation that made him relatable from Stan Lee & Ditko's Spidey-era-but I'm also happy he's grown up now, because that's what the character was always meant to do.
(Sad that some people are actually rooting against him succeeding just because of some perceived mis-delivery on Marvel's creative team's part.)
One year later but wasn't it Doc Ock as Peter who came up with Parker industries and not Peter himself?
"ouch, something bit me"
😂😂😂😂dying at that part
It was a bullet, wasn't it? That bit you?
@@PaperbackWizard I thought of Gump too lol.
It was a radioactive polar bear.
Spider gump spider gump
I'm not a big Spider-Man fan. I don't dislike him but I have never given much love to Peter or Spidey. But Dan's rant at the end of this opened my eyes, I never understood Spider-Man's pain and hardship he subjects himself to because a Spider-Man is needed. I thought he was a jackass who never grew up; I didn't like that he was - to me - an annoying and foolish looser. But unlike all of the people that enter his life and learn a lesson from, or, by being around him, move on and grow, Peter is trapped. He hides who he really is, is hated by the world he protects, and experiences failures in his personal life because of a commitment so grand that it would break any man who would shoulder it. I didn't know how beautiful this character and story is. Well done Cracked and Dan O'Brien, you changed me.
Yeah
Yup
Dan Slott created that unlikable version of Spider-Man.
You're secretly Dan O'Brien, aren't you?
@@theactualbajmahal833 I promise it's not me
5:20 just got so real. Even I felt Michael's outburst.
smjai477 Daniels pretty built, I'd watch that World Star fight
What I really like about Spider-Man is he's essentially a sidekick. He's not a sidekick for any established, confident super hero. There IS no super hero. It's like, can you imagine Robin cleaning up Gotham City by himself? So the draw to Spider-Man is seeing someone who's constantly in over his head, hated by everyone he fights to protect.... but still does it anyway.
If you think about it, he's the most selfless superhero around.
He is the most selfless
Exactly. He's *our* hero, us being nerdy social outcasts. He's not an alien raised on a farm, or a billionaire with all the combat training ever. It's why he's still the #1 box office draw. God I can't wait for Homecoming.
except everyone loves Spider-Man except j Jonah Jameson for no reason.Spider-Man has multiple times saved him and his family yet he continues to hate him.
+nunya2587 j jonah Jameson, is biased and judgmental. plus he doesn't really hate superman he just prefers the idea of spiderman being a villain simply cause it sells better. plus his newspaper actually effects a lot of his readers and causes a lot of hate and doubt concerning batman. the characters who matter, the ones we see know better but everyone else not so much and you can understand why. it's not like spiderman 's heroic exploits are tooted by the media or newspapers. he genuinely does it for the good of all with very selfless intentions despite everyone taking a dump on him for it. which is why the second spiderman movie with Toby mcguire is so compelling. it answers the question of what if spidey just stopped. what if any superhero just stopped really.
Spiderman was allways and will continue to always be my favorite superhero for these reasons. It's another reason why I hate miles morales Bc I feel like there is only one and only one true Spiderman and that's nerdy Peter that I grew up watching
Oh great, now I'm gonna spend hours on this TH-cam channel.
+Kari2025
Usually what happens to me... rabbit holes being what they are and all that.
I've been trapped here for 3 years.
HELP
ME.
Manuel Montero same I'm trapped here too
For the 87th time
Oh god. I just realized...
PETER PARKER'S JOB IS TO TAKE SELFIES ALL DAY
To be fair, he does get minimum wage
+Note The Namekian
Yea, it´s not like he´s putting them in... a book... and polluting the world... with his blatantly narcissistic douchcockery...
+Vicente Parker To be fair.... while saving people, he doesn't have enough time for other jobs....
TheDeathmail I don't care. Peter Parker was a Vine artist before it was uncool, which in case you are wondering it was invented.
+Vicente Parker O my god why will u say that his " job" is the take photos of exciting things and it's open to the public someone else could take a better picture and get the money
Ok, lets do this.
1. Spider-Man keeps his identity secret from Aunt May because he's afraid the stress created by her knowing he's in mortal danger all the time would hurt her. He tells his girlfriends eventually, if it gets serious, but obviously not at first (imagine revealing your most personal and incriminating secret to someone you're just starting to go out with and may end up hating you if it's a messy breakup or something).
2. Peter needs a flexible job (in terms of time and location) so that he can be Spider-Man at a moment's notice. Also, being a photographer for a newspaper gives him access to potential threats and their details forming within the city (and access to previous records to help him in his detective work).
3. Pretty much every hero and villain in the Marvel Universe has something to do with technology/science/progress (with the exception of non-powered and mystical characters). That stuff isn't evil, it's a source of power (and with great power comes great responsibility; I had to say it).
4. Spider-Man's web-shooters are not that useful without the strength, agility, durability, and omnipresent sense to back them up. Web slinging would dislocate your shoulders, anything you wanted to grab would now be covered in web, super villains could use the webline against you once you've hit them (because they're stronger), it couldn't be used as a building material or anything because it dissolves in an hour or two. You'd be able to neutralize enemies with nonlethal force, but there's already tonnes of inventions to do that; besides, once you've webbed the suspect, what are you going to do in terms of transportation now that they're covered in web? It's way easier to use tasers, tear gas, pepper spray, etc and then arrest them than having to cut them free of the web and then put them in handcuffs so you can move them.
I've got some pretty big problems with Dan's defence of Spidey too, but I won't go into them since it is technically a defence.
Great rebuttals. I was thinking of the web shooter one.
Dude... best comment ever
Agreed
In the comics, Spider-Man is sometimes seen using a spray that can dissolve the webbing instantly.
Also, it dissolving in an hour was a feature Peter built into it. He could likely formulate a more permanent solution.
Tasers can malfunction and cause much more pain than is necessary, or can simply be used maliciously for that purpose. Tear gas and pepper spray have the same cruelty issue, not to mention that some people can be allergic to them. Plus any gas based weapon is going to be much more difficult to control. Easy to hurt people who aren't even involved.
Webbing solves all of these issues.
You do make a good point, with them being much more effective for people with super strength. But, coupled with a powered exoskeleton, webbing would allow police some kind of weapon against superpowered individuals, when guns are ineffective. As is, the police force is shown to be entirely helpless against supervillains.
Also, and I'm surprised this never comes up... Peter Parker knows a brilliant biologist and geneticist. Dr. Connor. Sure, he becomes the Lizard later, but even then he retains his intelligence.
...so, why hasn't he ever tried to reverse engineer his superpowers?
His blood could be used, in conjunction with the spider that bit him, to formulate a super soldier serum. Create an army of Spider-Men.
I always wondered, did the lab that spider came from ever find out that they made a massive breakthrough that could have made them trillions of dollars?
We'll never know, because Peter Parker was too "awkward" (read: selfish) to come forward with his knowledge.
...btw, Peter Parker is my favorite hero, so I'm definitely not just making fun of him. It's just interesting to think about what could have been. Lol
I completely agree with 1,2 and 3, but for 4 the big thing is that the web shooters are an example of Peter's intellect that could be applied better, instead of solely in the risky role of superhero making gadgets and foiling villians- which is refuted by the comics themselves eventually, I think he has a company now?
For Dan's defense, it all boils down to the biggests flaws of Spiderman as a character existing because the writers keep trying to have him be that teenager in over his head, when they let him move on those flaws disappear. Though I am not up to date on the comics so take this position with more than a few grains of salt.
Spider-man did actually attempt to sell the web fluid when he was short on money fairly early on, however the buyers backed out when they realised it isnt permanent, i.e. the web disintegrates after a while
I was searching for a comment that mentioned this. Good on you, now I don't have to mention it.
Wouldn't that be good? Isn't the webbing so strong that nearly no one can break it? If it didn't go away after a while. They would attach people to the walls or flood, and cover their faces, then those people would die from lack of food and water, and be unable to move.
It makes no sense that THAT would be the reason. Also you would wonder if those buyers ever put two and two together. Someone invited web shooting, then days later hey, there is this superhero spider that is shooting those exact same webbings. Also after he starts using it, showing it works, wouldn't they want to use that too, seeing it actually working, especially against super villains who are much more stronger and dangerous than normal criminals?
Peter Parker went to the buyers in Spider-Man form (not normal clothes). The buyers essentially wanted to sell a new type of very strong adhesive - so it makes sense that they were unhappy with the fact the webbing (glue to them) was non permanent
Warbo Entertainment Oh, well then Duh. Selling it as glue/adhesive is stupid. They were talking about selling it to the Military and Cops to use as non-lethal weaponry. Even just to private military, or companies to use for security.
How about his OWN company in the newer spiderman comics, does his own company's security have non-lethal web shooting weapons? Especially since we know it DOES work on some villains, and most criminals.
Who was talking about selling to military?
Ok to clear up a few things.
1.) Peter HAS tried to sell his web shooters in the comics, but gets laughed out by investors "cause he invented a glue that only last an hour"
2.) In the comics while alot a science based villains, that not cause tech= evil in the marvel universe. it cause in the 60's when they heroes and villains were made it was in the height of nuclear war fears of the cold war, and in the "coming home" story line from 15 years ago. Ezekiel Sims an older man with Spider powers. gave a mythic reason of a spider god doing it. saying "what was it Peter, Did Radiation give you the spider's powers, or did radiation just kill the spider that was already giving them to you,"
3.) MJ has always known he was Spider-man in the comics since Amazing Fantasy (yes I know that was a recon)
4.) Peter doesn't tell Aunt May cause he doesn't know if her health can handle it,and the few times she found she had "died" (Amazing Spider-Man 400) or been shot (Marvel Civil War)
5.) only a few villain know Peter is Spider-man, and currently in the comics only Dr. Octopus knows, but he's dead. but before Civil War the only villains that knew where the Green Goblins (Norman and Harry), Jackal, Venom, and Scorpion. out of 100's of villains only 5 found out. and currently only 1 knows.
and 6.) Peter could not be Spider-Man, and make money of his abilities. but he doesn't cause "With Great Power, comes great responsibility" having power isn't about making money of them. He goes out there every night trying to make sure that he uses he powers to help those in need, because the one time he didn't his uncle was killed. So Peter risks his life for everyone.
PowerPackers90 Hmm....great clarifications on the issue with this video's arguments.
PowerPackers90 thank you good sir for defending the hero that we all need but we dont deserve.
+PowerPackers90 thank you for defending dude
+4evrFireify thanks for sating im good, you guys do deserve me cause you guys are amazing, like me
thanks for all the one ups lol.
Another thing "Parker Industries". Currently in the comics Peter owns his own company, Similar to Tony Stark (minus the drinking, and screwing random women). Not only has he used that company for making Spider-Man tech, but he also CAME UP WITH A SUPER PRISON FOR SUPER VILLAINS, THAT GIVES THEM REBAH, AND CAN CURE THEM OF THEIR SUPER POWERS! He even gave an ex super villain "Clash" a job at his company. Cause everyone needs a second chance.
I completely forgot Michael had that weird, half-pedophile/half-Walt Disney mustache for a little while. I'm glad he got rid of it.
Fuck that dan has hair
Michael looked great with it
"half-pedophile/half-Walt Disney" Is that like 5 of one, half dozen of the other?
I like it actually
Half pedo/half walt Disney is redundant.
Game! What an accomplishment Daniel. You won this argument in the second you chose to be part of it. That and because I kinda feel bad for you, is why I give you a point.
Daniel: 10
Soren: 7
Katie: 7
Michael: 7
4:17 - Considering that cops just shot a deaf dude who happened to have a stick the other day, I had to double check the date on this video. I nearly fell out of my chair.
listen is it just me or is tousle-haired bearded DOB getting worked up about the emotional ramifications of peter parker's life (4:33 onwards) super attractive
As pointed out, most of these point fall under the category of 'Peter being a stupid teen'
1: Why didn't he tell his loves ones who he was? At the time he didn't want Aunt May to worry herself to death about him, and did eventually tell those close to him like MJ.
2: Peter took pic's of Spidey because as a teen supported by a widow on a fixed income he needed money, and taking pics of himself as Spidey was the best job he could get where he didn't have to punch a clock and like Superman it allowed him to stay informed on breaking crime
3: All the villains representing science being bad. This is a staple of the superhero genre.. Nearly all heroes face villains who's powers come from the same source. X-men faces mutants, Cap faces political nuts, Thor faces dark magic, Hulk faces radiation monsters, Batman faces people who don't have power, ect.
4: Peter did try to sell his formula and was turned down because it dissolves in an hour, the webbing has been show to be far less versatile without super strength, and there have been many stories that have explored the idea of Peter using his brains to peruse a carrier as a top scientists, including having him be part of brain trust and working for Stark.
Also as pointed out. MOST superheroes aren't allowed to grow up. Hell One More Day was created specifically because the editors hated that Peter had been allowed to grow up, and wanted to to to retcon the last 20 years and make him an awkward teen again.
But after the events of Superior Spiderman. Peter has his own company, he's a genius but he has to limit himself the to doc ocks little joyride with his body.
shadowspider9 Yeah that one thing that has pissed me off, Peter's love life, the only good thing going, had to be ruined because some asshat writer hit a creative dead end
Edward DeGuzman
I honestly wish that was the case.
OMD happened because the head of Marvel, Joe Quesada, hated that Spider-man had grown up, that he wasn't the same Spider-man he read when he was a kid.
So he threw a tantrum and forced them to make Peter single again simply so Peter could have the same romantic and financial trouble he had when Quesada was reading him. Then to throw salt in the wound issue 1 after OMD had Peter shaking up with a new character based on Quesada's daughter.
It was basically bad fanfiction made canon.
shadowspider9, all the comics made in modern times written by normie SJWS like the people working at Cracked have ruined the comic industry, and Dan is the only person that worked at Cracked that isn’t a normie like Michael, Katie, and Soren are.
A lot of Batman villains have powers
Hasn't it already been well established numerous times that if Spider-Man stopped being Spider-Man and ignored his powers to focus on his studies and be more like Peter Parker that he would be among the smartest and most successfull people on the planet? I don't know how high Peter Parker ranks in the Marvelverse of hyperintelligent people, but it's gotta be pretty high up.
Being Spider-Man is exactly what's holding him back from achieving success, be it in the field of science, social life or romance but like Daniel said, he was a teenager when he got his powers. He wanted fame and cool powers and the public's adoration. By the time he figured out that Spider-Man was more of a detriment to his life then a help, he was already too deep in. He had already made enemies and achieved notoriety, but he had also already made himself a hero to the smallfolk. He's the guy who helps the common New Yorker as much as the one fighting supervillains. He's the guy that stops the purse snatcher or rapist in a dark alley as much as he is the guy that gets his reputation smeared by the Bugle. By the time he figured out how deep the shit he was in actually was, it was too late to just stop being Spider-Man. Basically, from the moment Uncle Ben died, he was destined to remain Spider-man, with all the good and bad that comes with it.
Sorry, but this argument is flawed. Yes, Peter's priorities changed when Uncle Ben was shot and his double-life as Spider-Man gets in the way of his personal/professional life, but Peter was a guilt-racked nerd from year dot. Even without super-heroics he always worries whether he's doing the right thing and whether he's a good person, so even without his secret identity he'd probably still be an emotional train wreck. You ever read Marvel's "What If" comics - there's loads where Peter never gets super-powers but still has the same internal turmoil (and, in a lot of them, still becomes a hero).
+Xylarxcode Yeah, actually right now he owns Parker Industries. He is essentially Tony Stark right now. Still Spidey-ing it up but is a multi-multi-multi-billionare. So yeah as of the last, idk 5 years in comics, he isnt anything like how main stream fans think he is. All nerdy and self doubting. He is confident, swag as fuck, has had many different girlfriends, rolling in dough, and not hated by anyone really other than JJJ. Which is funny considering JJJ is/was married to Aunt May lololol
GR1M Equixz0r who’s JJJ?
And he has become a much less interesting character as a result.
John Jones Jameson aka J.Jones Jameson
this hits harder after the ending of no way home
Holy heck, T1J! Didn't expect to see you (or anyone, for that matter) here on an 11 year old video!
I had to come back to this one after watching Across the Spider-Verse - and if I'm honest with myself, I'll probably be back again after the third film. It felt pretty relevant to those movies, too. Now I guess I finally have to go back and watch No Way Home...
Ouch, something bit me... The desire to marathon After Hours.
(God damn, that was a good one. I should be a write...)
writer
Charming Cthulu
So you sat there thinking: "Wait, write? This guy isn't very good at writing, I don't think he is qualified to do the thing he is saying he should be. AND he is being entirely sincere, I believe every word."
"writer" Yes.
Emantheseeker Hey man, that is plagiarism. You think I wouldn't realise because you added 1 word?
UPDATE: If you read the most recent issues, Spidey DID eventually patent his weaponry and made a small fortune. One of my favorites was special noise canceling headphones that was originally used to fight the new Hobgoblin (whose laugh could destroy a person's inner ear.), but then Spidey tweaked it so it could be used by the general public.
2:40 Kraven the Hunter: the complete opposite of technological progress, He is just an old school hunter that think spiderman would be a lot of fun to hunt, plus he was part of the sinister six and is there for one of the original spiderman villans.
That speech he gave defending Spider-man was so inspiring it reminded me why love Spidey.
This episode always gets me kinda sad...
About half these episodes make me sad
Alazariel Anderson Hey, for the record, half of these "After Hours" episodes will make you feel sad knowing about the cold hard truth about some of the things that you enjoy watching or reading about for entertainment.
most of them make me sad because of how little most of them know about the actual source material, like with the whole batman debate, they were wrong, about every part of that debate
MegaHI32 I'm a huge fan of most of the things they talk about and I don't really mind that they askew the facts a bit sometimes because these sketches are basically dome for comedic effect. an exaggeration of the real thing. not to be taken genuinely and I like seeing the things I love be challenged. sure sometimes the cross the line for me (I couldn't watch the Lord of the rings episode at all) but I love that these videos are basically just people who do love the source material but just want to make us laugh about them
it's the same thing behind cinema sins or the movie trailer series.
though I do genuinely love that they took this episode down a more serious route and how it's very much in character for them. especially daniel
I'm surprised Daniel didn't use "With great power, comes great responsibility" as a counter for something somehow
Really, if you think about, no superheroes are that good at protecting anyone.
Except Superman. He's saved Lois, Jimmy and Perry White for decades. Now Spidey failed at saving Gwen and Capt. John Stacy in the '70s. Green Lantern Kyle Rayner failed to protect his girlfriend from being Stuffed in the Fridge (Trope Namer) by Major Force.
except Superman constantly causes mass property damage to metropolis whenever he's fighting Zod or Doomsday when it would have been easier to fly them out of the area. Black Panther is arguably good at protecting people. He's a master tactician, martial artist, tech innovator AND king of his own country ALL AT ONCE! It's gotta take real skill to orchestrate all of that at once.
Black Panther is best hero, confirmed.
Ghostwriter batman from the animated series is the best superhero
Except the phantom
Except Superman. He's been saving Lois Lane and Jimmy Olsen since 1938.
This is, hands down, the best After Hours episode in my opinion. It feels personal and real. The jokes work well and the observations cut to the core of the character in a real way without much of the smoke and mirrors 'we can't see the forest for the trees' nonsense you usually get with this kind of stuff. Fantastic episode.
Clearly the writers of No Way Home saw this, hence the whole decision to reverse the villains’ conditions.
Maybe
Just watched NWH, literally thought of this video during the movie
It's so cute that he loves spiderman. Spiderman is my favorite superhero too. >.<
But it's probably for a different reason -- I like spidey because of his quirky dialogue.
***** I love Spider-man to!!!!! I find him hilarious. But what's really awesome is when you get him and Deadpool together!!! :P
Just my opinion, but I don't really like DC that much (except Batman, of course).
There for, for me there is no Marvel vs DC.
Only Marvel vs Batman. :P
***** deadpool,wolverine and Spider-Man are marvel characters right or are they dc?
(I know this is a stupid question but I forgot)
victoria woods Yeah those 3 are marvel
Spider-Man's my favorite because he is the most human superhero.
i never realized this but dan did a really good job getting rilled up and getting his face red and sweaty. good show mate
They need tighter restrictions on hazardous chemicals in Gotham, think about it,
Joker-fell into a vat of chemicals
Mr.Freeze-fell into a vat of chemicals
Two-Face-Had chemicals splashed on his face
Clay-face-Don't know exactly but ti involved chemicals
Poison Ivy-Mutated by toxins and chemicals
Ra's-Al-Ghul-Uses the Lazarus pit to stay alive
Bane-Uses Venom
Scarecrow-Uses fear toxin
I believe Clay-Face involved some faulty, experimental cosmetics. That's how it goes in the original animated version.
sometimes it was fire but originally it was acid splashed on him by the falcones,
kite man got knocked out and hat a mental breakdown involving kites, zebraman had radiation, riddler in the original versions was legitimately just insane and had no "accident" that turned him criminal,
i think somebody's forgetting spiderman's actual origins. he does what he does out of guilt and so he could get revenge on his uncle ben's killer personally. he probably wanted satisfaction in knowing that he stoppped the killer like dexter does in the tv show "dexter". from there, peter parker continued to dispense justice as the amazing spiderman!
those are his origins(in most canon universes of spider-man) sure, but the conclusion they reach regards the state of spider-man in pretty much every continuity a spider-man has ever existed in.
Man, I could defend the crap out of Spidey in a conversation with these guys.
Congratulations, nerd.
@@jaydedinnoo8819 hey we're all nerds here
I actually burst out laughing when Soren moved his pie away from Dan when he started ranting
Haven't watched the video yet but I know Dan will cry
This video is more real than people know. Fans of Spider-Man get really heated when people hate on him because despite all the good Peter tries to do, he always... ALWAYS gets the short end of the stick. Anyone who has stuck with him knows the heartache he's been through and will emotionally jump at the opportunity to defend the guy, including yours truly.
wow...Swaim looks like Walt Disney in this
Still re watching these, can’t believe how good after hours is
Plot twist; the spider also gave Peter immortality; that's why he hasn't aged in all this time.
WHA!? Oh wait that makes sense. :/
peter parker is 28 age old man, but "he is still a teenage boy in his most basic level".
in the comics he has grown up in the basic Amazing series as well as having a comic book of him in high school called "Spidey"
In some universes he grows up, he's a teenager, he dies and passes on the mantle to Miles Morales, Doc Ock possesses him, etc.
Comic book characters do age, but the series featuring them tend to jump around a bit, often showing the most popular but different interpretations (hence Amazing and Ultimate Spider-Man).
Spidey too
This conversation is exactly why Superior Spider-man was so good. A super-villain comes along, takes over his body, runs his life way better than he ever did. Which, in turn, makes Peter actually take a look at his life and realize that he just got so used to things being horrible, he never thought to change.
Awww!! I hate seeing my bæ Daniel struggle😢 but when he's able to stand up for what he loved, it just solidified my love for him 99999999999999999999999999999999998999999979999999699999959999994999999939999999299999991 times!!😍
P.s spiderman is also my favorite super hero
Here's my list of reasons why the 1980s is a perfect setting for a Spider-Man film series:1)It was probably the best decade of teenage pop culture,we could see Spidey relate to all that stuff in that decade. 2)It would be a very challenging time for the hero since it was the time the Cold War was probably at its most dangerous level. 3)It was the time comics were growing darker in a world dominated by gritty violence and noir threats.Peter Parker actually managed to stay above it all. So,what do you think?
+Anthony Nunez I could picture a side/subplot being about how J.J uses his paper to make the people believe that spiderman is part of some KGB secret weapon to gain the trust of the american people and then when they least expect it he turns on them.
+bella swan awww thanks for saying im your fav, your my fav to
I hope Daniel gets revenge on everybody in the table by explaining why the X-men suck.
+Anthony Nunez I would love to see that topic covered in a After Hours.. I'm a big X-men fan it would be nice to see them roasted. Get to work on that Cracked Team.
I miss these guys and gal so damn much! They should sell this series on something so I can download and watch them all the time.
fr i never got why they never just made slight alterations and resold the concept
in an alternate universe (were mutants were dominant over humans) peter parker does market his web shooters
Isaac Langan, normies like Katie, Michael, and Soren seems to forget that superhero comics have alternate Universes, and that there isn’t just one single Universe, so a lot of Katie’s, Soren’s, and Michael’s arguments fails if you’re only basing your arguments only on the main continuity of superhero comics.
@@RoronoaZoro-ur6hr true but it's still a lot of fun and interesting to listen to
love that soren said batman's alter ego because Bruce is actually the secret identity
My family CAN NOT keep a secret. So if I were a super hero, I wouldn't tell them I was one because it would get out all over the world.
My family would bug me not to do anything super heroic so I don't get hurt. or some of them would try to guilt me into selfish favors. or my younger brother can't keep a secret and has Loki's "the world owes me and I got slighted" mentality and given power, would probably be a pain in the ass villain to deal with simply because killing him would tear my family apart... You know, that wouldn't make a bad comic book.
To be fair to Peter, a lot of his family (what little he has left) probably wouldn't be all that supportive - Aunt May's a paranoid worrywart who seems to think her nephew is made of glass. So it's no real surprise that Peter doesn't tell them about his secret identity.
+SalamandersRCool you're hilarious. but now that I think about it. my family drama would make a pretty good comic too
Spider-Man is probably the greatest hero of all time along with Captain America and Superman.
Ironman is probably the most efficient though as he:
Has no problem with killing unlike Spider-Man who thinks its "immoral"
Has no code of honor that keeps him from being a few steps above his enemies unlike Captain America who prefers his shield over a high tech suit of armor.
He isn't afraid of being in charge nor will he EVER be anybody's lap dog unlike Superman.(Red Son, Dark Knight Returns)
His only problem is that he's always wrong but that's what he has Cap for I guess. He'd totally clean up Gotham City in a month though.
Red Son and TDKR are both non canon therefore your argument is invalid
Zain Peterson annnnnd? As if he wasn't the US governments lap dog? Or the UN's for that matter? He's always doing what other people tell him.
Joshua Kelly Like i said non canon, superman does not listen to the government if they try to give him orders.ever.
Also, Tony's technology gets hacked often. Like endangering civilians often.
Zain Peterson If Superman wasn't a labdog for the US/UN, then he wouldn't have been a lapdog for the USSR. That was the whole point of the story. It is canon btw, it just happened on Earth-30. It was also the point of Alan Moore's Dr. Manhattan. Moore just took the all powerful government lapdog to its logical end. Yes, Superman has developed more of a backbone, but that is a response to previous criticism, and to a degree remains a part of his character. Take him renouncing his US citizenship for example. He didn't actually stand up to the government, nether The US's nor Iran's, and allowed both to continue the mistreatment of their people.
"Not the 24-hour news cycle."
Oh Soren, if you only knew about 2020
"Amen" I died 😂
I think I've fallen in love with Daniel
it's like having friends, watching these videos. please keep making them. you're the best, ever
What about Venom? Carnage? Toxin? That annoying period of time in which Spider-Man was fighting vampires with Black Cat? That's not science creating villains. Besides, most of the Marvel characters are created based on whatever new science at the time was coming up. Gamma radiation led to Hulk, other radiation led to Spider-Man, mutation led to X-Men. It's sort of Stan Lee's trademark, using whatever is unknown at the time and pretending it is capable of turning people into superhumans.
mutants was just him being lazy, he has said so himself, but you can swap mutants with the fantastic four, and the entire marvel ultimate universe, and the marvel cinematic universe
Thank you for reinforcing my point, it means a lot.
are you being sarcastic? if not you are welcome
No, I meant it. All of the marvel characters use (very) loose science to get their powers, with a select few exceptions. Saying that technology is evil is a stupid argument to make against the Spider-Man comics.
that is true
I love how joyous Michael is when he exclaims, "I stole cable!"
"Maybe he'll cry!" I died at that part!
"then why does he spiders man?"
My favorite line from the series
Actually Peter wasn't transformed by an accident with an experiment. It was the Spider-Totem granting those powers to him (the chosen champion to the web of life) through a destined event (the accident).
So it wasn't science gone wrong, but spiritual forces that made science go wrong.
When was this ever the case?
Isaac Friedman
It's something Ezekiel Sims, the Spider-Champion before Peter, has told him.
It's also something Julia Carpenter, the new Madame Web, has made hints to, when she told Peter, that his clone Kane would be a candidate for the new champion, giving Peter the possibility to stopp been Spider-Man as a kind of reward from the Web of Life. However, he chose to continue being Spider-Man.
Rico Valentin I'm not sure if this is still a thing, I don't think Marvel has done anything at all with that idea in the last several years?
Rico Valentin Most of this has been retconned anyways. In the "One More Day" storyline, Peter was given the chance at a happy family, married to Mary Jane, and the possibility of a daughter, the only down side was Aunt May passing away; however, even after Aunt May told Peter that she was happy to be able to see Uncle Ben again, Peter still did the unthinkable and made a bargain with Mephisto where Peter's current happiness and marriage was traded away so Peter could undo everything and return to a life before hand. To a time where Peter did not have his totemic powers, Aunt May was alive, and no longer married.
Oh yeaaahhh!!! Everyone knows that
After hours is like crack. But special mention to Cody's outro. That level of awkwardness is *chef's kiss* perfect.
Every Villain in the spiderman series is a product of technology. A few minutes later mentions Venom
Well Venom only got here cuz of technology
you should probably read Secret Wars.
Worst Episode Ever! Venom, the alien suit that was created by science
Do you consider crossing dimensions to be 'technology'? I do.
I mean king pin was a spiderman villan
0:42 Trust the process
I wish daniel is happy now.
Correction: Spiderman is an adult who grew up in a very unfortunate life without his parents. He had to grow up at one point in order to make it on his own, even when Uncle Ben tried to tell him something. Eventually, Peter Parker would have to take on the responsibility of saving the world even if it meant being hated, because some people are too busy living in their own worlds due to what they were taught as children. In some cases, Spiderman dealt with issues we as the audience would come to understand and love about Peter, especially in Ultimate Spiderman.
In retrospect, he may have the heart of a kid, but he's a mature adult who might secretly wish life wasn't complicated for him and his loved ones. Because just like Dan, who is also important to many people like myself because we relate in many ways, even though I also relate to Kate, Michael and Soren too, because he deserves to be loved and respected like everyone else.
Peter Parker is just a misunderstood soul like everyone else in the world. Just like him, the superheroes do their best to protect humanity and their loved ones from hurt, even if it means getting hurt in the process. We are all unique in our own way, especially Spiderman. He may be hated by some people, but others choose to love and support him. Those who hate him and the other protectors of our world probably weren't used to different things and people who are different from them.
Yo I got a question. Spider-man is Daniel's idol, Batman is Soren's idol, Pixar is Michael's idol whos Katies...?
Indiana jones
Yeah I found out. Thanks though!
Randy Gardny but thats more cause she wanted his boulders in here temple of doom if you know what im sayin
SkkyKidd sounds pretty unappetizing :)
Catwoman, of course! She and Soren duke it out in the Batman episode
as their "idols".
Just realized this years later but the reason spider-man cant sell his web-shooters is because no one else can use it. You need super-strength to use the webs due to their tensile strength
You don't need super strength to restrain a bad guy with them, it would be like a net gun but better. You only need the strength if you're flinging yourself off buildings to swing around which arguably would be the dumbest practical application of web shooters for a regular person.
Daniel has hair!
I miss it. I miss it so much 😭
Spiderman's Logic:
Villain: I'm looking for spiderman!
Peter: Well I'm not Spiderman.
Villain: Yes but you get perfectly posed pictures of him therefore you are the only person that knows him directly and even on a personal basis so Immah kidnap yah ass.
This is the best 6 minutes 30 seconds of video on the internet. I love every soulcrushing moment of it!
at the time this video came out Peter was part of Horizon Labs as a scientist and before that he was a teacher!
about the webshooters peters reasoning is probably that it takes spider reflexs/strength to use the web shooters 3ffectively
TADA. YOU GUYS HIT IT ON THE HEAD.
You have hit the exact problem every single Spidey fan has complained about for years. Thanks Marvel editorial!
Michael is just the best ! So many quoteable lines! "I stole cable!" "Maybe he'll cry!" lol
Correct me if I'm wrong but doesn't Parker Hate any and all military based operations because he believes they waste tax payers money?
"ouch, something bit me." Is the greatest monotone quote i've heard in the past 16 minutes
You know, he's got a point. Why is it the writers of Spider-Man have NEVER let him grow up and mature? Sure, he's aged. Heck, he's even died... multiple times! But emotionally, he is still a high school kid who is constantly bullied and ridiculed and in general has a sucktastic life. Other main characters of Marvel have evolved and matured over the years. Spider-Man has not and probably will never be able to, because the writers don't know how to possibly make Peter Parker an adult now. Look, I love Spider-Man, he's my favorite hero period. But for the love of Stan Lee, will the writers please be realistic. After everything he's been through, the Peter Parker should be the most mature adult on the planet, not a whiny, selfish teenager.
That's probably his character. If they never made him grow up, it's because they never intended him to. It's not like Marvel writers know character development, except when they have to write Spidey comics. I'm pretty sure they choose not to for a reason. He's somewhat of a timeless demographic. Struggling teenagers who have to deal with school/love/responsibility etc. You could pretty much reshape that and market it again for every coming generation.
Yeah, I can see that. But at the same time, he's developed in other ways - he finished high school, went to college and graduated, got married to MJ and a bunch of other things I can't remember right now. More than that, the readers have grown up, gone to college, gotten married, etc. so why hasn't the character? I admit, Linkara first raised this point and I'm partially quoting here, but I think he's right. Everyone else in the Marvel universe gets to change and mature and grow emotionally, even freaking immortal Wolverine, but not Spider-Man. My simple question is this: why? And darn it I want a good answer!
Rae Prite A good answer might not come forward. Lol so let's treat it as one of those it's better if we don't know, situations. I'm 22 right now, so I haven't really "grown" out of Spiderman yet. But I'm sure once I hit my 30s I'll start to get irked at why he hasn't gotten his shit together yet.
*Sigh* Probably not. I haven't either (20 btw) and I can't say if I'll ever get sick of Spider-Man completely, I'd just like a little bit more realism once in a while. Or at least one day when some character - Iron Man maybe, or Mr. Fantastic - just looks at Spidey and says 'you know, your life is pretty messed up, and you still act like you're 18. Why is that? How are you not properly bitter and angry at the world by now, given how much crap you've been through? Logically it makes no sense'. And with absolute seriousness, Spider-Man will reply, 'no, it doesn't make sense'. I doubt that will ever happen, but still, one can dream.
Rae Prite You would think tho, with all these Spiderman alternates and timelines, one of them would explore what would happen if he grew up. I mean only thing they explore is how more fucked up they can make his life.
To all the people commenting about Parker Industries, this episode came out in early 2013, before the Superior Spider-Man run, so Parker Industries did not exist yet. However, Peter was at Horizon Labs, no longer taking pictures for the Bugle.
Nozergram Gaming I just read your comment thread dissing Batman for not having any superpowers, while praising two others just as powerless because they have flashier toys. Green Lantern? Willpower? Please, Batman's will is just as strong and he could use it far better. Iron Man? Without his suit, he's a horrible fighter, and remove his arc reactor, and he's dying. Even after his lifesaving surgery he still couldn't fight without his armor. Neither one has a quarter of Batman's tactical genius or combat experience independent of any artificial enhancements. remove their special gadgets and they're merely human, and vulnerable. Take away Batman's gadgets and he's still a master martial artist beyond any real human ever, as well as a brilliant detective, tactician and warrior. His being able to defeat Superman isn't so unbelievable when you consider that Superman's most persistent nemesis is Lex Luthor, who brought Superman to his knees multiple times without even Batman's combat ability. You forget, Superman has a weakness.
Power doesn't make the super hero; it never did, that's how villains think. It doesn't matter what kind of power you have or where it comes from; it only matters _what you do with it!_. If all you care about is the flash and glitter of superpowers, you *missed the point!*
zemorph42 Hello. Its been a while since I have used youtube. Ive been at comicons. IRONICALLY, talking about superheros. Listen. You look at these superheros, and you treat them like they are real. Are super heros real? No. Iron man, I admit, under many circumstances WOULD loose to batman. But, only if batman had his full arsenal. Batman, hands alone, would not be able to do that. Now, green lantern, I believe is much better than batman. And not only because he can do much more, but he actually has a mystical, flashy story line. One that I look for in a super hero. Im not dissing batman. Im simply saying that he is NOT, a super hero. In fact, I LOVE batman. Batman is AMAZING to me. HE just IS NOT a super hero.Just because he knows martial arts, does not mean that he is gonna kick ass left and right. Spider man would easily outmatch batman. With or without his arsenal.
Now, to the point. You saying that powers are not the point. Well, let me introduce you to BUSINESS. Now, im gonna look at your profile picture, and assume you at LEAST 30 years old, maybe in your 20's. I really hope your not though, because if so, well, thia is just sad for your age. But, anyway. Superheros. SUPER-heroes. They have powers man. POWERS. Thats what separates super-heroes from heroes. Batman is a hero. NOT, a super hero. super heroes have super powers so they appeal to the audience. Super powers sell. If I go by your logic, I could say, "There once was a 9 year old who went to karate class and learned how to defend himself. HE IS NOW A SUPER HERO!!!" Yea thats not how it works. So you can do one of 2 things now. Either keep arguing, fighting in a battle you already lost. Or, you could realize your ACTUALLY in the wrong, and call it quits. But, im guessing your gonna keep going, seeing that you act as though your a 12 year old. So, I eagerly await your reply. ^-^
Nozergram Gaming How come Lex Luthor managed to become a super villain _with no powers!_ Lex had exactly the same advantage as Bruce; both were filthy rich and both super geniuses, yet Lex gets to be super and Batman doesn't? Double standard in favor of the bad guy. As long as Lex Luthor gets to be called a super villain, I'm going to call Batman a super hero.
Yes, I do know they aren't real; I talk about them in the context of their respective universes.
No, going to karate class wouldn't make anyone a superhero, But if they MASTER more than 7 different martial arts, as well as forensics and strategy, they're getting close.
_But, anyway. Superheros. SUPER-heroes. They have powers man. POWERS_
_green lantern...actually has a mystical, *flashy* story line. One that I look for in a super hero._
Who's acting like a 12 year old?
zemorph42 you are so right though he’s just a man, right? That’s not to say that Batman doesn’t have a superpower. His mind is his power; within it lurks a deadly, but prefectly balanced combination of insurmountable anguish, indomitable conviction, unparalleled genius and just a sprinkling of mental instability. Rarely in comics do plight and power marry so seamlessly.
Actually power does make a super hero. Power does not make a HERO. Batman is not a super hero, he is a hero. Super heroes have powers. But yeah I agree with you. Batman is the best hero ever!
Victor Cardena ummm batman is a superhero he's a founding member of the justice league a group specifically for superheros
Man, I've watched this several times...... and I still love how red Daniel's face is 😂😂😂😂
Why do people say batman is like the best super hero? He is alright, but he gets to much credit. He should not be considered a super hero. Thor, mystical god powers, spiderman, does whatever a spider can, Green Lantern, super light rings of LAZARS PEW PEW, batman, sharp pieces of metal and mentally disturbed.
Ikr!
***** Good point! Extreme intelligence is in some way a super power!
Einstein was intelligent but he was not called a super hero, it would be cooler if batman had an accident like the daredevil or something, I don't know. But still, Batman gets to much credit for what its worth.
Nozergram Gaming Well that is true.
***** Yeah.
This is my favorite episode with Daniel. Like I honestly love him in this episode. rewatching it for the zillionth time
Spiderman always cared more about how to get hooked up with teenage girls than anything else.
Read the comics more bro. Before you even comment.
He IS more MAN than spider
Does anyone know if the original cast gets royalties or anything from this. If so I'm consider resubbing because I love coming back to watch these every once in a while.
How there are no more spider-men if the spider that bit peter parker is just walking around? How there's no story about that spider? How come no one remembered to capture it?
There was a story where some guy, who was at the same lab Pete got bitten, grabbed the spider and... Well it involves a lot of messed up shit
Did he kill the spider?
More like the spider killed him...and a 1000 other people o_o
And then it was killed?
Lizard Princess
Isn't Man-Spider derived from the same experiment? Or, was he a failed Spider-Man clone, like the 4-armed "Doppelganger" in the game "Maximum Carnage"?
Spider-Man is my favorite super hero of all time! I find that he is the most relatable, for me anyway, of all the super hero's out there because of all the challenges he faces in his day to day life with his uncle dying and being a teenager while trying to protect the ones he loves and still finding time for school villains and family and keeping it all secret. He has probably the hardest life out of any of the super hero's which I think makes even better and more relatable.
5:39 Onwards... mind blowing
Okay my only lucid dream I ever had was when I was a kid. I was spider man. I was strong as hell, and I could fly all over the world. It was the single most exhilarating experience I ever had.
You were Spider-Man AND you could fly?!
I couldn’t actually fly, it’s more like falling with style. I meant swinging all over the world.
@@ajhatti2011 Ah fair enough! Still cool.
Thanks man!
The real problem with spider man is. that Spidey keeps acting like a 16 year old, despite being an adult.
Tee Chaita I am an adult, I mostly do not watch kids shows. But if he is in highschool its fine, but in the comics he was not and he just never grew up.
***** Many of the animated series make him a high-school teen in his last years. Some make him at best a college student.
Same for the movies, he simply is not allowed to grow up, which is kind of the real problem of the character. He is a Peter Pan that is forced to stay in Neverland by the writers while he himself seems to actually really like to grow up. As he is often portrait as someone who actually learns from his life lessons and constantly is growing up. He just gets rebooted so often.
Traumglanz I am talking about the comics. He is grown up in there and still acting like a 16 year old kid.
***** I think they just look older.. look at scooby doo gang.. they are teenagers..
vanthursday No, he actually is not a teenager anymore in most of the comics. hence why he could marry Mary Jane , and in turn the debacle that is one more day happen.
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Think about it. Your loved one is a Superhero that you know is not invincible, gets beatdown and almost killed on the regular, ypu would be a total wreck thinking if this time is the time he doesn't make it back. Also, all his fights are on TV for you to worry and see!!
Aunt May would have hard tons of heart attacks and strokes seeing all the stuff Peter goes through. Then when its gets to be too much, you will tell that hero to stop being who they are, even though you know they won't and can't. You have to leave them.
Okay, you guys covered Soren's Rocky, Michael's Star Trek, and Daniel's Spider-Man. But what is Katie's obsession?
Want to know that too!
+dorsal 2008 That was Indiana Jones. Also Soren had 007 and Batman as well.
+dorsal 2008 I thought Pixar was Michael's obsession.
+Derek Straker
Hey, you're black!....I mean hi!
Also Pixar. I completely forgot about it.
+Zero-ELEC
Yes!
I thought Peter Parker TRIED to sell his web fluid to a construction company, but was turned down when he explained that the web fluid only lasted for one hour.
Did you guys really just argue that Peter's web shooters could be used by cops when the formula for the webs have enough tensile strength to rip a normal human's arms off. And even if they didn't what's to stop bad guys from getting a hold of it if it were an effective enough tool to use against their enemies.
What about rescue or construction applications? Peter Parker obviously just wanted to have fun with it for awhile but then things snowballed and now he is stuck in superhero mode.
Maphisto86 Problem is: not everyone is going to use it for rescue and construction applications, police brutality is real, after all. So I'd still say that the whole Spider-man comic book conveyed its meaning well, great power, great responsibility, after all. Can't let people running around with dangerous weapons all the time now, can we?
Cloud Leonhart There are these things called guns and knives, you see.
There are many other potential applications. Spider silk with the strength of titanium and the weight of actual thread could be woven into cloth and used as body armour. His invention could save the lives of tens of thousands of soldiers operating overseas!
Lugh314 yeah and it dissolves in an hour or so. So.....
The KD Lang comment was the best!!!
Where is Peter Parker?
Dead, technically.
Why's that? Stan Lee created him and he is still alive.
***** Mind switch with Doc Ock. Doc Ock's body dies while mind switched. So technically, Peter is dead.
Salem Wilfong I have no idea what ur mean. When did that happen?
***** He died in Amazing Spider-Man 700, Superior Spider-Man has been Otto the entire time.
Don't worry, changes like these are never permanent. Pete will be back in time for the next movie. Ghost Pete has even returned in Superior. At the time I posted that comment, there was no form of Peter Parker's mind or spirit left, besides Ock's impersonation. He was technically dead, but we all knew he would be brought back somehow.
Salem Wilfong But did he really die? Peter's still there, except with a few new memories and a slightly different personality.
These guys make me question everything I stand for.
Not gonna lie, Daniel is pretty goodlooking.
I feel like Uncle Ben's, "With great power, comes great responsibility" line, followed by him dying was a major factor in his self-loathing/guilt. He is stuck in a self destructive spiral trying to redeem himself for "killing" his uncle.
That adds up when you look at the story in the Spider-Man game edge of time.
So he's theboy who never grew up? Peter Parker is Peter Pan!
Which makes Green Goblin, Hook.
Katie has nice boobs
This episode made me want to give Dan a hug. It's ok buddy.
...you're FUCKING WITH ME. Antivenom-I GOTTA SEE THIS SHIT! Eddy Brock CURIN CANCER!
I think each of their arguments are more heavily weighted against comics as a whole rather than just peter
Nooooooo, why would you go with the point that Spider-man teaches us that science is evil...? That's the lamest argument you guys have ever come up with so far... nooooooooooo... that's the same as saying that Harry Potter is telling us that magic is evil, come on...
the after hours playlist needs to be put back in published order. As it is, it feels like I hit shuffle (I didn't) and its flipflopping between early and late ones.