I love the idea of an area boss being a stage hazard in regular stages. Not only does it build up to an upcoming boss fight, but it also gives creativity as to how the bosses will interact with the player and stage themselves. SEGA may have the funds but they lack the patience and creativity modders have.
They have the creativity, but the patience is where the problem is. Forces was rushed, and I think it would’ve been a lot better if there was no planned release date so that they had all the time in the world to work on it. That’s probably why the new 2022 sonic game was only just recently announced after years of silence about development, so that they could work on it for longer without being rushed by deadlines and impatient fans and all that. I say that SEGA should take more time into their development instead of trying to get the game ready as soon as possible.
@@leonardoalvarenga7572 I wouldn’t know just yet, from that trailer it looked like it was gonna be pretty good ngl (then again, it was the same thing with Forces lol)
There are so many pathways in sunset hights! And that inclusion of having Shadow was great, makes up for not having a boss which I hope will become some future mod for Forces.
I really like how Arsenal Pyramid is expanded at its start unlike how other stage mods just add a few extra platforms and enemies in the middle of the stage
im so glad were leagues past the old mario maker level mods. these look like what a good level should look like, not just blocks being placed everywhere
I love how the levels are combined together because they’re too short on their own. Also I think Sonic’s control is a lot better and less stiff than before.
Forces has a special place in my heart because it's the last gift my dad ever gave me, I wish they'd do something to fix it. Also I think it has a nice upbeat soundtrack
If you see a guy named SmartSonicMadlock asking you to watch his speedruns then please go to his channel and report him. They've been uploading Sonicfind's runs as their own.
Most Sonic Forces mods that try to make alternate routes end up falling flat cause they just add random floating platforms above the stage(which you see a little of in this Sunset Heights), but Arsenal Pyramid is done incredibly well here. The use of models in the background as part of the stage is brilliant. I especially love the part where you hear grind on the huge pipe.
Wow, this mod is actually a lot better than most other forces mods that you showed off, really amazing! My last wish is for the music to be more serious in sunset heights, it's too joyful for the setting lmao
good god these are actually super impressive, leagues above the honestly really bad "forces fixed" level mods that just turn them into really poorly-made mario maker levels, this adds entirely new sections and everything and it's clear a ton of thought and effort went into these.
I agree with the idea of having longer stages. But I wish they would’ve found a way to utilize Sonic’s drift instead of removing it as well as his midair tricks.
Now this is what forces should of been! the game is even better now! the part with shadow was cool nice adventure 2 reference like your thumbnail 👌 i might give this a try.
I actually think Forces is a good game, and at least tried to have a story as robust as the adventure era. Does it get everything right? No, but it’s not a travesty of gaming or anything. That said, I still think this looks really cool.
@ghostoftime1 yeah I would say Tails’ Characterization in this game is definitely one of its more negative aspects. I don’t know much about the writing team but my best guess is that there’s been enough turnover since the adventure era games that they didn’t account for his character arc during that time period, which is admittedly not the best excuse, just my best guess as to why the story is the way it is.
@ghostoftime1 alternatively since we’re forced to accept this characterization, I think maybe they intended it to be his supposed psychological damage from seeing Sonic die, but that happened in SA2 and had the exact opposite effect, so maybe we’re supposed to think the six months that followed Sonic’s apparent death during which tails has been powerless to stop egg man have shaken Tails’ confidence in his own capabilities, but idk it’s probably just bad continuity.
@@yesuhh6855 I haven’t played ultimate because I own a copy of colors Wii and a Wii U. None of the added features seemed like a good enough reason to buy it. I will say half the videos put out since its release have made it seem like a sound decision, but I don’t feel like I can truly get a read on it without playing it myself.
There are a few stages that have good aesthetics and themes, like sunset heights for example, but sadly most of the levels are really boring. It's a shame that SEGA didn't give the team more people to work on it and didn't give them more time to finish this game.
Great Mod. This mod makes the levels more longer. If only there was an mod to replace Sonics voice lines with the Adventure/Adventure 2 or Unleashed Sonic voice lines.
Its literally just adding an extension to the levels, a few more alternate paths and obstacles and in general just a bit more flair to the levels And its such an improvement, if the levels were fun like this, the story would have been the onlt problem
You know going down into the comment and seeing all the assholes like SEGA take notes or Sonic Team do better without realizing the shit they go through to TRY and make the games is outstanding Colors Ultimate:Was completely on Blind Squirrel and I'm pretty sure they had control over the release date too so SEGA shouldn't be getting shit for that Forces:Spent most of the years making the hedgehog engine and had to rush out a game on the last year, we are lucky it came out in this quality. Also had rookie designers who hadn't even worked on a sonic game before 06:Stuck in a contract with Microsoft and HAD to get a game out by the years end Yes SEGA can fuck up but that doesnt mean they aren't trying. Anytime I see "Wow fans are better than Sonic Team" it fucking infuriates me because nobody really knows what it's like until they're put in that position
incredible mod for this game, and i like for the beginners that who didn't play sonic forces we need to make the beginner version of the levels mods please
If only SEGA allowed the community to remaster games like Sonic Forces to make it better. Other than that, Sonic Forces is a good game! Just needs some things that the community and SEGA would like all together.
Sonic forces was a bigger tragedy than Sonic 06 (cause everyone knew sonic 06 was rushed) this mod and other mods for forces ight be the only reason why this game is alive, phenomenal mod!
i have a new conspiracy theory: Sega doesn't put any effort into their games, because they think "ehh... our fans will mod the shit outta this, anyway!"
You weren't lying with the title. This actually looks like a fun game.
This actually looks like a game.
@@leonardoalvarenga7572 it already does look like it lmao
Now it does
Ik
Great SA2 callback with shadow and sonic running into each other.
Definitely
A million times better than the game itself
Hey I make sonic speedruns can you watch some of my recent posts to see if they’re good? Thx :)
@@sonicmadlock2525 you’re not gonna get anywhere in this site if you just beg in every comment section.
@@-galaxy-5076 Not to mention those videos they upload don't even belong to them.
4:55 Underrated moment of the video.
As the level design in Forces is really dull and boring, I see this as a great improvement! This mod is awesome!
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This is just as bad
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@Belu King straight line levels design just like the original game
@@ykgcaramel6515 Thank you. These kids crap on forces (as they should) but when a fan does the same thing, it's now great level design.
I love the idea of an area boss being a stage hazard in regular stages. Not only does it build up to an upcoming boss fight, but it also gives creativity as to how the bosses will interact with the player and stage themselves. SEGA may have the funds but they lack the patience and creativity modders have.
Hey I make sonic speedruns can you watch some of my recent posts to see if they’re good? Thx :)
They have the creativity, but the patience is where the problem is. Forces was rushed, and I think it would’ve been a lot better if there was no planned release date so that they had all the time in the world to work on it. That’s probably why the new 2022 sonic game was only just recently announced after years of silence about development, so that they could work on it for longer without being rushed by deadlines and impatient fans and all that. I say that SEGA should take more time into their development instead of trying to get the game ready as soon as possible.
@@ExtemTheHedgehogLol Rangers will be shit, rest assured.
@@leonardoalvarenga7572 I wouldn’t know just yet, from that trailer it looked like it was gonna be pretty good ngl (then again, it was the same thing with Forces lol)
@@leonardoalvarenga7572 Ill reserve judgement until the gameplay trailer comes out.
There are so many pathways in sunset hights! And that inclusion of having Shadow was great, makes up for not having a boss which I hope will become some future mod for Forces.
They should just make a modding tab for consoles like skyrim on xbox 1 but everything is free.
@@shadowsnake5133 keep on dreaming bud
Okay these mods are lit! Most mods I’ve seen just add Hazards but these actually feels like levels!! I love it!
I really like how Arsenal Pyramid is expanded at its start unlike how other stage mods just add a few extra platforms and enemies in the middle of the stage
Omg finally actual levels.
im so glad were leagues past the old mario maker level mods. these look like what a good level should look like, not just blocks being placed everywhere
This mod is also making the game look like it has a better plot line like it’s been giving ideas on how the game plot could have been rewritten
I love how the levels are combined together because they’re too short on their own. Also I think Sonic’s control is a lot better and less stiff than before.
Forces has a special place in my heart because it's the last gift my dad ever gave me, I wish they'd do something to fix it. Also I think it has a nice upbeat soundtrack
I really love the changes they did
Hey I make sonic speedruns can you watch some of my recent posts to see if they’re good? Thx :)
If you see a guy named SmartSonicMadlock asking you to watch his speedruns then please go to his channel and report him. They've been uploading Sonicfind's runs as their own.
Sonic Forces 2 Is Looking Perfect
Hey I make sonic speedruns can you watch some of my recent posts to see if they’re good? Thx :)
Now this is what i call a Sonic *WAR*
If Sega made good level design like this sonic forces would be a great success
I'd love to see more mods like this for Sonic Forces
On the creator's channel, Brandon Jones, he posts WAY more of his stage reimagines and is still working on them
@@sonicmadlock2525 Hey it's be cool if you stopped uploading Sonicfind's runs and uploaded your own
How 1 person made a better level design than a complete team the stages are just awesome.
When you realize the level design team for Forces was only 3 people (and NEW devs at that), it actually starts to make sense. :P
Finally. more complex levels, enemies, and an Actual Shadow Fight!
high tier level designs
Hey I make sonic speedruns can you watch some of my recent posts to see if they’re good? Thx :)
Most Sonic Forces mods that try to make alternate routes end up falling flat cause they just add random floating platforms above the stage(which you see a little of in this Sunset Heights), but Arsenal Pyramid is done incredibly well here. The use of models in the background as part of the stage is brilliant. I especially love the part where you hear grind on the huge pipe.
Mods truly do make a game better!
The controls look way smoother 😮
Well done Brandon Jones, you've done the unthinkable and made forces great.
Hey I make sonic speedruns can you watch some of my recent posts to see if they’re good? Thx :)
@@sonicmadlock2525 sure.
@@AYTM1200 They're a fake, the real owner to those runs is someone called Sonicfind
@@TheOnlyGokuMain ok noted.
Probably the best mod I’ve seen for Arsenal Pyramid
Wow, this mod is actually a lot better than most other forces mods that you showed off, really amazing! My last wish is for the music to be more serious in sunset heights, it's too joyful for the setting lmao
Rookie's grappler shoots through solid rails at 0:18
good god these are actually super impressive, leagues above the honestly really bad "forces fixed" level mods that just turn them into really poorly-made mario maker levels, this adds entirely new sections and everything and it's clear a ton of thought and effort went into these.
That Shadow scene really threw me off
Well, at least it looks like a FUN console-release Sonic Dash sequel now.
This is so much better not even a comparison, if the main game was like this sonic would be in such a different spot rn
U see, this is how long stages should be, not one minute bitsize level with barebones platforming and little to no challenge..
Some fan *make a Sonic Forces mod with a obstacle and a intro game*
Everyone: AMAZING
This really improves the game a lot the level design was much better!
I agree with the idea of having longer stages. But I wish they would’ve found a way to utilize Sonic’s drift instead of removing it as well as his midair tricks.
Sadly, there is only so much mods can do. One day though maybe
Now this is what forces should of been! the game is even better now! the part with shadow was cool nice adventure 2 reference like your thumbnail 👌 i might give this a try.
Now that's level design Sega and Sonic Team should hire the person who made this mod.
I actually saw the preview videos Brandon Jones put on his TH-cam channel and tbh the mods look pretty lit
Also It would be cool if we had a shadow boss fight too.
Hey I make sonic speedruns can you watch some of my recent posts to see if they’re good? Thx :)
@@sonicmadlock2525 ok!
@@spittin_BXRS That guy is a fake, the real owner to those runs is called Sonicfind.
Well we were able to get a fully custom Chaos 0 Boss fight in this game, so it’s only a matter of time before we get a Shadow one.
HOLY MOLY!, they managed to make a good level design but they kept the straight line level design. AWESOME!
This looked so good that I forgot I was looking at Sonic Forces
The level design makes me wish the original game was as good as this I swear 😭
I actually think Forces is a good game, and at least tried to have a story as robust as the adventure era. Does it get everything right? No, but it’s not a travesty of gaming or anything. That said, I still think this looks really cool.
@ghostoftime1 yeah I would say Tails’ Characterization in this game is definitely one of its more negative aspects. I don’t know much about the writing team but my best guess is that there’s been enough turnover since the adventure era games that they didn’t account for his character arc during that time period, which is admittedly not the best excuse, just my best guess as to why the story is the way it is.
@ghostoftime1 alternatively since we’re forced to accept this characterization, I think maybe they intended it to be his supposed psychological damage from seeing Sonic die, but that happened in SA2 and had the exact opposite effect, so maybe we’re supposed to think the six months that followed Sonic’s apparent death during which tails has been powerless to stop egg man have shaken Tails’ confidence in his own capabilities, but idk it’s probably just bad continuity.
And I would say....it looks better than colors ultimate
@@yesuhh6855 I haven’t played ultimate because I own a copy of colors Wii and a Wii U. None of the added features seemed like a good enough reason to buy it. I will say half the videos put out since its release have made it seem like a sound decision, but I don’t feel like I can truly get a read on it without playing it myself.
4:54 Now that's the type of anime shit I wanna see in the Sonic series again. Wow this mod is actually making me consider getting forces on steam.
I do feel like the level themes are a bit bland, but for the assets given to them, this is a great improvement from before, Bravo!
There are a few stages that have good aesthetics and themes, like sunset heights for example, but sadly most of the levels are really boring. It's a shame that SEGA didn't give the team more people to work on it and didn't give them more time to finish this game.
4:55
Okay THAT was insane.
The Sonic Forces Mod is Amazing and I love The Teamwork that makes this Game unbelievable and I like The Double Boost!😎🎮🦔❤👍😍
Hey I make sonic speedruns can you watch some of my recent posts to see if they’re good? Thx :)
@@sonicmadlock2525 Try uploading your own content next time
Amazing! Makes the game look more engaging and fun to play.
Sonic adventure 2 reference
4:56
Awesome Terminal
I seriously tough there was a shadow boss fight for a second.
Lol
These look like so much fun!
Remember when people thought the start of arsenal pyramid was in the middle of the level in the forces demo, this is it.
Yea, this is the Sonic Forces I want to play
Yo Sonic Forces looks like a really fun game I hope it releases soon
They should be remastered this if they want to force his unleash and generations cuz I actually like this mod right here
Hey I make sonic speedruns can you watch some of my recent posts to see if they’re good? Thx :)
@@sonicmadlock2525 ok I watch your videos
@@ireece post notify on pls lol
Ok
@@ireece They're uploading videos from a person called Sonicfind as their own
this is what we needed
Great Mod. This mod makes the levels more longer. If only there was an mod to replace Sonics voice lines with the Adventure/Adventure 2 or Unleashed Sonic voice lines.
This is the best forces level design mod
Wow, for the pyramid they added a new start! Legit!
This should be the state Sonic Forces is in
Sonic Forces, but it’s actually good
Now this mod is fire! Hope we'll get a Shadow boss battle soon!
Hey I make sonic speedruns can you watch some of my recent posts to see if they’re good? Thx :)
@@sonicmadlock2525 Sure
@@shawnthedragonwarrior18 Sadly that guy is a fake who's just taking Sonicfind's videos
Its literally just adding an extension to the levels, a few more alternate paths and obstacles and in general just a bit more flair to the levels
And its such an improvement, if the levels were fun like this, the story would have been the onlt problem
Now if they can add some custom characters in the background fighting, that would be a nice touch.
Yeah that be cool like passing by the rest of the sonic crew just running around the stage
everyone: great levels
me: *WHERE IS THE GRASSSSS*
Can't say that I didn't like forces, but THIS IS BETER THAN PLAYING THE ACTUAL GAME
Ah, HEEEEEEEEEEEEYYYYL YEAH! This is EFFING happenin!
Awesome!
Look, it's the real "Sonic Forces: Ultimate"
You know going down into the comment and seeing all the assholes like SEGA take notes or Sonic Team do better without realizing the shit they go through to TRY and make the games is outstanding
Colors Ultimate:Was completely on Blind Squirrel and I'm pretty sure they had control over the release date too so SEGA shouldn't be getting shit for that
Forces:Spent most of the years making the hedgehog engine and had to rush out a game on the last year, we are lucky it came out in this quality. Also had rookie designers who hadn't even worked on a sonic game before
06:Stuck in a contract with Microsoft and HAD to get a game out by the years end
Yes SEGA can fuck up but that doesnt mean they aren't trying. Anytime I see "Wow fans are better than Sonic Team" it fucking infuriates me because nobody really knows what it's like until they're put in that position
A good perspective to keep in mind. ^_^
See this? This is what we should’ve gotten.
Now, This mod is really good.
Hey I make sonic speedruns can you watch some of my recent posts to see if they’re good? Thx :)
incredible mod for this game, and i like for the beginners that who didn't play sonic forces
we need to make the beginner version of the levels mods please
Damn, a few people with love for the franchise really did better than the billion dollar company
people : modern sonic stages from forces are just straight lines, sonic forces mods: straight lines again...
But now there are more different straight lines to follow and they last longer than 60 seconds. Which makes a huge difference.
Wow this is insane!
The Sonic Forces Remake!
Astonishing.
sonic forces good sales &good game time line
This is no Sonic Unleashed, but it’s better than the original game
Sega be like: let's turn this into a free DLC
This is really really good
If only SEGA allowed the community to remaster games like Sonic Forces to make it better. Other than that, Sonic Forces is a good game! Just needs some things that the community and SEGA would like all together.
This would’ve made Sonic Forces 10x better.
If sonic could use the power of the wisps to then that would be amazing!
As much of a good idea Sonic Forces was. Nothing can save the game due to its super stiff controls.
Or its lackluster story...
I mean, there's a mod for that. :P But agreed that it'll only take it so far.
That said, this mod is quite impressive for what its doing.
I would have loved this sonic forces
gotta how this mod is better than anything in forces
Sonic fans do what Segadon't
Hey I make sonic speedruns can you watch some of my recent posts to see if they’re good? Thx :)
Sonic forces was a bigger tragedy than Sonic 06 (cause everyone knew sonic 06 was rushed) this mod and other mods for forces ight be the only reason why this game is alive, phenomenal mod!
This mod made the game 200% better
The meme required to describe this mod?
"It's *bad* (the game), but it can be better (mod)"
we can actually hear arsenal pyramid for more then 15 seconds
Does anyone else here appreciated the actual game
WHY ISN'T SEGA AND SONIC TEAM FUNDING THIS?!
Hey I make sonic speedruns can you watch some of my recent posts to see if they’re good? Thx :)
@@sonicmadlock2525 Stop self-advertising dude, you're gonna get ignored if you keep this shit up.
i have a new conspiracy theory: Sega doesn't put any effort into their games, because they think "ehh... our fans will mod the shit outta this, anyway!"
Super amazing