I too am doing my part in providing the interwebs with long-format videos as we all button down the hatches, close the blast doors and bunker down. Stay safe, everyone! *For more, check out my Inside-The-Cockpit series* th-cam.com/play/PLWpO-JGPAanqanhSYqKuMG2C8md9vpX1H.html Yes, I am aware it's 'Gannet' and not 'Garnet'. My brain has yet to accept it. Yes, it's a MiG-27, not MiG-23. Missed it in the edit.
Military Aviation History Correct me if I’m wrong but isn’t that first MiG-23 actually a MiG-27, the ground attack variant? The nose doesn’t look right for the 23
@@MilitaryAviationHistory always impressing how quick you repsond to correct these details ... Like it a lot even I had been several times in Gatow but for rowing competitions in late cold war years before unification and I guess without the museum at least without the MIGs. One big question I have in mind but Im not sure about: Did a GDR / DDR pilot ever took the chance to use his MiG whatever or hightech plane to escape to West Germany as it had happend in Korea or China with landings in Japan ? I can remember these events in the 80s when the american got the planes from Japan and officially gave these planes back ... a bit later ... Maybe a question for your Q & A or topic how much more the US benefitted from their "refugee plane" program cause they had offered 100.000 $ or so.
@@trekaddict the 1950s need for speed using slide ruler engineering forced this manned missile on the USAF. The Pentagon forced it on our allies long after the USAF knew how twitchy this plane was. It's little more than a V1 rocket airframe with a monster engine and landing gear.
@@davidj.7227 Also I think at the time there was a scandal in Germany due to the fact that Lockheed bribed several german officials in order to get the contract from the government.
I was in a band years ago and we were playing in Berlin. We had a day off and there was a sort of show at that base. A couple of us ended up there to see what was going on and ended up having a laugh and drinking whisky (out of the bottle of course!) with the Ground Crew AND the Pilot of a Harrier that was 'performing' in the event. The Pilot then sort of said, "Hang around, you'll like this", and off he went. Next thing he's in the Harrier doing all the party-pieces. THEN he lands, gets out and comes back over with another bottle of whisky!! It could Conceivably ahve even been that VERY Harrier... Happy days!!
Great vid as always. I hope they will be able to get the rest of the collection under cover in the near future. So sad to see those old birds crumbling away.
That is a QUAD RADAR. I trained and serviced those RADARS at a Canadian mobile RADAR unit in the early 2000's. It was replaced by the new MPN-25/GCA2000. Those quads had circuit boards built in the 60's that still were 100% original components and serviceable when I trained on and serviced them in the RCAF
I think Warsaw pact countries (including East Germany) received the "downgraded version" of MiG-27 -- MiG-23BN. It is the same story as with Su-20/22 instead of native Su-17 for VVS. So technically speaking, it is probably still a MiG-23 :) Only India and a couple of other countries got "real" MiG-27s.
@@iliaminkin5605 actually, the MiG-23BN and MiG-27 are quite different aircraft, although externally very similar. Essentially, the -27 is a newer version of the -23BN even more specialized for Close Air Support, with a different engine (note the simplified engine inlets), heavier armor, a more powerful gun and a slightly different landing gear. The East German air force, as all former Warsaw Pact nations, only operated the MiG-23BN. When they specified a need for more fighter-bombers, they decided not to go for more -23BNs, but to procure the Su-22M4 instead. Most other WP states came to the same conclusion. For a number of reasons, the MiG-23 was not all that popular, in the long run.
The aircraft is indeed a MiG-27. The key to recognizing a -27 over a -23BN is to look at the nose and air intakes. The -23 had a flattened nose cone for better visibility, this aircraft has the flat nose with laser range finder that is found only on the -27; the other is the air intakes: the -23BN had the same intakes as the fighter versions of the -23 whereas the -27 (and this aircraft) has simplified air intakes optimized for low level subsonic flight.
@@iljaharris1899 Based on official data it's a MiG-23, however it has been modified with the simplified air intakes and laser rangefinder normally found on the MiG-27. I couldn't get a good enough view of the belly to see if it had the twin 23mm cannon or the 30mm Gatling cannon.
There’s a museum in the south of France : the « ailes anciennes » and « Aéroscopia » they have mirage 3 , 4 and super étendard And mystère, Super mystère and a ouragan i think
I was there around 2016 and luckily for me the hangar 7 was accessible. most of the planes shown currently there used to be on the outside though, and there was some sort of more extensive display of WWI related equipment on its place. the good thing is that most of the planes currently in hangar 7 show clear signs of being restored after their time on the tarmac (the mirage, harrier and migs specially being in a pretty rough condition back then) there was also a backyard with an extensive display of AA batteries and missile arrangements that could also be visited... wonder if those are still there? thanks for stirring those memories back, keep up the good work
Having visited the museum last July, you did a wonderful walk through. For a Yank, it's a special treat to view so many aircraft for the first time. I started my day at the museum, when it opened. After that I went to the nearby British Berlin 1939-1945 War Cemetery. Finally ending up at the Berlin Olympiastadion, used during the 1936 Olympics. All very doable, in one day, if you start early.
The "missile" you keep referring to are HAWK missiles. US made in fifties. Homing All the Way Killer high range anti aircraft missiles, usually fired from triple mounts as you showed earlier. In the side room you have have the radars that goes with the system.
I worked at an airport here in the USA while I was in college. Tucked away in the back of the hangar was a (civilian) HansaJet. It was stored in pieces: the fuselage was sitting on its landing gear, but the wings were removed and stored next to the aircraft. I didn't realize that the wings had a "reverse" sweep until I discovered Jane's All the World's Aircraft in my university's library one day 😀
so i know your not the best at more modern military aircraf tbut the first “mig23” you showed was the mig27. essentially its a mig23 but made into a ground attacker. Viedo was all around amazing and love your stuff
NOOOOO! They closed Hanger 7... WHY?! That was almost half the museum! I have been looking forward to going back. Now I'm dreading it, knowing how badly they have nerfed it! And outside.... where are the Mil 24 Hind gunships? The orange painted Canberra? The Bronco? And most of all, my favourite, the Breguet Atlantic???
Hangar 3 was the home of 7 Flight AAC for many years until the fall of the Berlin wall. No mention of this in your report of RAF GATOW. Luftwaffe museum, MHM Berlin-Gatow.
Fascinating video - thanks! Your English is excellent, but (and it's only a tiny thing) I think I heard you pronounce "Gannet" as "garnet". Two different things... A gannet is a seabird, while a garnet is a gemstone. Carry on!
I served in Berlin when the wall was still up with 2 Para. Only recently I went on Google Earth in VR with my Rift and was touring the places I knew in Berlin and was gobsmacked to see all these aircraft on the now defunct Gatow Airfield. At least its been put to good use.
Look, You Tube, I've probably said this before, but it bears repeating .. This chap and his kind of presentation is part of what makes your format so successful. Please, YT, do us the courtesy of recognising these content creators, whether your editors, censors and algorithm-makers like their product or not. Nothing here is wilfully or obdurately offensive - so help us to help fund these wonderful souls, for they do a lot to help us - out here in the real world, believe it or not. Thank you.
I visited this museum back in 2014 and boy has it changed a lot since then! I remember back then that they had a Bf-109 G-2 in brown tropical camouflage on display as well as an east German La-5 I believe, are these still around? Hope they haven't been scrapped. post edit: Correction, it was 2013 and not 2014.
Do you really mean a Lawotschkin La-5 ? As far as wikipedia has it, they had only been used during wartimes in Checoslovakia. Some planes however fell into german hands and were thoroughly tested to find out as much as possible about this plane by experienced pilots of the newly formed 2./Versuchsverband Ob.d.L., a unit formed in march 1942 by Hauptmann Theodor Rosarius on behalf of an order from Adolf Galland, by that time being the "General der Jagdflieger" (General of the fighter wing). The unit got nicknamed "Wanderzirkus Rosarius" (Roaming circus Rosarius) because they would introduce american, british and russian fighter planes of many different types to pilots in other "Jagdfliegerschulen" (fighter pilot schools) in order to show any weak points or train how to attack them best in "simulated" air-combat. But they would also still see real combat in regular daylight missions as well as "Nachtjagd-Einsätze" (nighttime hunting missions), from ever different airfields - hence the name.
I usually call the MHM Berlin-Gatow Museum "The German Pima Air & Space Museum" 😁 And looks like they moved the aircraft around quite a bit since my last visit 2018 (Covid-19 related maybe?)
Awesome Thank you for the great tour loved most of the jets especially the ealier MiG 21M? In the hanger along with the MiG 17 also loved the pristine looking MiG15 at the start. I was hoping you couldve filmed more of the He111 in that hanger but otherwise awesome.
Hey Bismarck, I have a question for you if you happen to see this. What happened to nose art on war planes? I know that in WWII the USAAF, and British Commonwealth Airforces allowed (or at least turned a blind eye) to nose art on aircraft but afterwards we don’t see it anymore. Why did this change? As a side question did any other airforces use individual nose art? (as opposed to squadron colours/designs) any insight would be greatly appreciated.
Some non-scientific but still wild-assed guesses: the male/female roles before, say, 1960, allowed, even expected such macho displays; wartime allows morale boosters that wouldn't be tolerated in peacetime; and American planes in foreign countries are out of sight of the American press while the locals are told to tolerate such strange things as just the way Americans are. I don't know much at all about other countries and nose art.
Great vid thanks for the tour, isn't that a mielec pzl lim5p (mig 17pf)? Did you know that the fiat G-91 was nicknamed "Gina" as a tribute to italian actress Gina lollobrigida, please if you can do a special report on the Piasecki H-21 if possible, l didn't have the chance to see anywhere like this one very well kept, thanks alot sincerely
Agreed; more on this very unusual helicopter would be greatly appreciated. Rumors have it, back in the early '70s my beloved football club "Borussia Dortmund" had one of these, repainted in the club's colors. They planned to cut on the time necessary to get the players to their away games. Sadly I can't seem to find any trace of this on the net these days.
@Military Aviation History - nice work. Buy a "wind baffle" (the big fuzzy things) BE-cause Dude the sound of wind on a mic is a 47 per-cent clickout. The roundel painting on the front of whirleybird is an interpretation of a Frederich Remington (of German heritage, omg!) statue called "End of the Road" and the meaning, Schatz, is not a joke, by any means. Frederich was saying "this is the end of the real American Dream" and he loved cowboys and Indians. When I was a kid I was always an Indian, not the cowboy, because we did the war whoops. Lots of German pilots died in Starfighters due to its lack of low-level avionics. It was a fantastic stratospheric bird that had zero gliding ability below fifty-thousand feet. I kid.
The second Mig 23 was a Mig 27. Mig 23 was air to mud, Mig 27 was air to air. Easiest way to tell them apart, nose in the 27 us more rounded to house the AI radar. The 23 doesn't have variable air inlets for the engine. Just an FYI not a critique.
Actually, no. The 23 had fighter and ground attack models, the 27 was the ground attack only one. The round nose ones are the fighters, flat nose ones are the ground attackers. The bomber 23 and 27 you can tell apart by the intakes. The 27 has a simpler splitter plate betwen the intake and the fuselage. And the czech trainer is a L-29 Delfin, not an Albatros.
You simply must visit the Vintage Flying Museum in Fort Worth, Texas, USA, once this Covid-19 thing is over. We have much history you'd be interested in. I could even give you a personal tour, if you'd like.
I'd love to see the museum in real life. Thanks for making the video. I don't mean to be overly critical, but the abrupt and constant camera movement actually started to make me feel sick. I had to pause the video and walk away a couple times. Please keep making videos! Just think "smooth and steady" while filming.
I too am doing my part in providing the interwebs with long-format videos as we all button down the hatches, close the blast doors and bunker down. Stay safe, everyone!
*For more, check out my Inside-The-Cockpit series* th-cam.com/play/PLWpO-JGPAanqanhSYqKuMG2C8md9vpX1H.html
Yes, I am aware it's 'Gannet' and not 'Garnet'. My brain has yet to accept it. Yes, it's a MiG-27, not MiG-23. Missed it in the edit.
Military Aviation History Correct me if I’m wrong but isn’t that first MiG-23 actually a MiG-27, the ground attack variant? The nose doesn’t look right for the 23
Yes, it's a MiG27. Passed my attention during the edit
@@MilitaryAviationHistory always impressing how quick you repsond to correct these details ... Like it a lot even I had been several times in Gatow but for rowing competitions in late cold war years before unification and I guess without the museum at least without the MIGs.
One big question I have in mind but Im not sure about:
Did a GDR / DDR pilot ever took the chance to use his MiG whatever or hightech plane to escape to West Germany as it had happend in Korea or China with landings in Japan ?
I can remember these events in the 80s when the american got the planes from Japan and officially gave these planes back ... a bit later ...
Maybe a question for your Q & A or topic how much more the US benefitted from their "refugee plane" program cause they had offered 100.000 $ or so.
@@trailmixup8843 Meh, they're all FLOGGERs.
@@MilitaryAviationHistory enough mystere's in israel !
"In Germany, Its history is a bit complicated, to say the least." British understatement at work
The complicated history he is referring to are so many German pilots crashed the 104.
Trey Stephens well yes but that’s a different topic
Complicated to the point that I still despise that plane and Lockheed Martin with the fury of a million suns.
@@trekaddict the 1950s need for speed using slide ruler engineering forced this manned missile on the USAF. The Pentagon forced it on our allies long after the USAF knew how twitchy this plane was. It's little more than a V1 rocket airframe with a monster engine and landing gear.
@@davidj.7227 Also I think at the time there was a scandal in Germany due to the fact that Lockheed bribed several german officials in order to get the contract from the government.
I was in a band years ago and we were playing in Berlin. We had a day off and there was a sort of show at that base. A couple of us ended up there to see what was going on and ended up having a laugh and drinking whisky (out of the bottle of course!) with the Ground Crew AND the Pilot of a Harrier that was 'performing' in the event. The Pilot then sort of said, "Hang around, you'll like this", and off he went. Next thing he's in the Harrier doing all the party-pieces. THEN he lands, gets out and comes back over with another bottle of whisky!! It could Conceivably ahve even been that VERY Harrier... Happy days!!
Nice story, thanks for sharing !
Wow out of a bottle. Hardcore!
Great vid as always. I hope they will be able to get the rest of the collection under cover in the near future. So sad to see those old birds crumbling away.
That is a QUAD RADAR. I trained and serviced those RADARS at a Canadian mobile RADAR unit in the early 2000's. It was replaced by the new MPN-25/GCA2000. Those quads had circuit boards built in the 60's that still were 100% original components and serviceable when I trained on and serviced them in the RCAF
the missile system at 9:15 is a Hawk I supplied by the US back from the 70's
3:45 it's mig 27 not 23
I think Warsaw pact countries (including East Germany) received the "downgraded version" of MiG-27 -- MiG-23BN. It is the same story as with Su-20/22 instead of native Su-17 for VVS. So technically speaking, it is probably still a MiG-23 :) Only India and a couple of other countries got "real" MiG-27s.
@@iliaminkin5605 actually, the MiG-23BN and MiG-27 are quite different aircraft, although externally very similar. Essentially, the -27 is a newer version of the -23BN even more specialized for Close Air Support, with a different engine (note the simplified engine inlets), heavier armor, a more powerful gun and a slightly different landing gear.
The East German air force, as all former Warsaw Pact nations, only operated the MiG-23BN. When they specified a need for more fighter-bombers, they decided not to go for more -23BNs, but to procure the Su-22M4 instead. Most other WP states came to the same conclusion. For a number of reasons, the MiG-23 was not all that popular, in the long run.
The aircraft is indeed a MiG-27. The key to recognizing a -27 over a -23BN is to look at the nose and air intakes. The -23 had a flattened nose cone for better visibility, this aircraft has the flat nose with laser range finder that is found only on the -27; the other is the air intakes: the -23BN had the same intakes as the fighter versions of the -23 whereas the -27 (and this aircraft) has simplified air intakes optimized for low level subsonic flight.
@@jameshastey3058 Its a Mig-23. The aircraft in the video shows a east german camo and the east german airforce never operated the Mig-27.
@@iljaharris1899 Based on official data it's a MiG-23, however it has been modified with the simplified air intakes and laser rangefinder normally found on the MiG-27. I couldn't get a good enough view of the belly to see if it had the twin 23mm cannon or the 30mm Gatling cannon.
Hamburg seems an appropriate place to build a jet named after the Hanseatic League, to be honest.
Gatow has a long A. Like Gaatow. ☝️🤓
He lives there! He is german...
@@gertvanpeet3120 He maybe german but nevertheless still wrong about this one; the "A" in "Gatow" is in fact pronounced prolonged.
Hes simply englishifying it i think
23:39 , silenced but never forgotten : the magnificient Fouga Magister
Cool looking aircraft
There’s a museum in the south of France : the « ailes anciennes » and « Aéroscopia » they have mirage 3 , 4 and super étendard And mystère, Super mystère and a ouragan i think
Thank you, will have a look
I was there around 2016 and luckily for me the hangar 7 was accessible. most of the planes shown currently there used to be on the outside though, and there was some sort of more extensive display of WWI related equipment on its place. the good thing is that most of the planes currently in hangar 7 show clear signs of being restored after their time on the tarmac (the mirage, harrier and migs specially being in a pretty rough condition back then)
there was also a backyard with an extensive display of AA batteries and missile arrangements that could also be visited... wonder if those are still there?
thanks for stirring those memories back, keep up the good work
Why does anyone need to leave a Thumbs Down?
If you don’t like the video just leave quietly, there’s no need to comment!
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Only joking 😂👍
9:14 Bismarck dying noise
Lol ueijeeahe
Ohhh I was there some years ago. Easily one of the best visits of my life, simply brilliant. A cult place for european aviation fans if you ask me...
I remember seeing Canada's version of the T-33 flying around, Canada used it as an auxiliary craft until 2005.
Cheers
Die RF4E vom AG 52, konnte ich noch in den 80ern in Leck bei einem Schulausflug bewundern.
8:00 is an L-29. The L-39 is quite a bit taller, and not T-tail.
Yes,i want just add that full name in Czechoslovakia was L-29 Delfin(Dolphin)...
What a great video! I love the warts 'n' all approach. I was dis appointed that the Texan wasn't a Mig 41. Such is life.
You should really make a video on the Me 110 in the Technische Museum in Berlin, that would be amazing and pretty rare plane as well.
How TF did I miss the BF110???
I went to the Technische museum like 5 times.
i went there a few days ago and it's there.
I am definitely visiting this museum as soon as I can
Do you still feel about jets as soulless? ;)
I have seen the light
LOL
I personally feel as though some jets are soulless. Like the Mig21 or the Saber
@@V-V1875-h - Noooomm the Mig-21 is super cool
@@964cuplove its just a bit worn, being outside, yellow glass all that.
Thats why I meant soulless
What's the small two seat (tandem) jet (marked AA-014) with a "V" tail on 23:39 in German colours?
Ah, a Fouga CM170 Magister, thanks 24:14.
Beautiful plane! Thanks for asking and answering!
Having visited the museum last July, you did a wonderful walk through. For a Yank, it's a special treat to view so many aircraft for the first time.
I started my day at the museum, when it opened. After that I went to the nearby British Berlin 1939-1945 War Cemetery. Finally ending up at the Berlin Olympiastadion, used during the 1936 Olympics. All very doable, in one day, if you start early.
The "missile" you keep referring to are HAWK missiles. US made in fifties. Homing All the Way Killer high range anti aircraft missiles, usually fired from triple mounts as you showed earlier. In the side room you have have the radars that goes with the system.
WOW !! I hope you can do a much longer video of all those hangers , Id be in there for days If I could go there !
I worked at an airport here in the USA while I was in college. Tucked away in the back of the hangar was a (civilian) HansaJet. It was stored in pieces: the fuselage was sitting on its landing gear, but the wings were removed and stored next to the aircraft. I didn't realize that the wings had a "reverse" sweep until I discovered Jane's All the World's Aircraft in my university's library one day 😀
You remind me of myself when going into the air force museum, just pointing the aircraft and call out their names and code designation..
Great video buddy great work!
The jet at the8:00 minute mark is actually an Aero Vodochody L-29 Delfin.
That Copter for generals has a nice "Gelsenkirchener Barock" interior ...
Visited this museum in 2015. It seems to have changed since then. Thank you for a great tour.
Thanks for a great video,nice exhibition of aircraft.
so i know your not the best at more modern military aircraf tbut the first “mig23” you showed was the mig27. essentially its a mig23 but made into a ground attacker. Viedo was all around amazing and love your stuff
Yup, missed that :/
Military Aviation History. np its a common mistake since they are basically the same aircraft but with different noses to house equipment
It was a MiG-23BN. MiG-27s have pitot air intakes rather than the supersonic intakes of the earlier MiG-23 ground attack variants.
Not true. This is a 23BN. the 27 would have a 6 barrel 30mm gun and a different intake design.
NOOOOO! They closed Hanger 7... WHY?! That was almost half the museum! I have been looking forward to going back. Now I'm dreading it, knowing how badly they have nerfed it!
And outside.... where are the Mil 24 Hind gunships? The orange painted Canberra? The Bronco? And most of all, my favourite, the Breguet Atlantic???
The Canberra and the bronco are still outside, I went there yesterday
Hangar 3 was the home of 7 Flight AAC for many years until the fall of the Berlin wall. No mention of this in your report of RAF GATOW. Luftwaffe museum, MHM Berlin-Gatow.
Fascinating video - thanks! Your English is excellent, but (and it's only a tiny thing) I think I heard you pronounce "Gannet" as "garnet". Two different things... A gannet is a seabird, while a garnet is a gemstone. Carry on!
I served in Berlin when the wall was still up with 2 Para. Only recently I went on Google Earth in VR with my Rift and was touring the places I knew in Berlin and was gobsmacked to see all these aircraft on the now defunct Gatow Airfield. At least its been put to good use.
The Texan you see is actually a Harvard slight difference but the Harvard had an warm air return built in to the exhaust of the harvard
I really love your videos.
@25:30 a museum display that could be in a display museum
Great museum, awesomeness after awesomeness
Look, You Tube, I've probably said this before, but it bears repeating .. This chap and his kind of presentation is part of what makes your format so successful. Please, YT, do us the courtesy of recognising these content creators, whether your editors, censors and algorithm-makers like their product or not. Nothing here is wilfully or obdurately offensive - so help us to help fund these wonderful souls, for they do a lot to help us - out here in the real world, believe it or not. Thank you.
MAH, do you find the aircraft museum in Hermeskeil interesting?
A super bf 108 restoration series can be found at Kermit’s Fantasy of flight
Oooh, a Piasecki H-21 "Flying Banana" 23:45
I visited this museum back in 2014 and boy has it changed a lot since then!
I remember back then that they had a Bf-109 G-2 in brown tropical camouflage on display as well as an east German La-5 I believe, are these still around? Hope they haven't been scrapped.
post edit: Correction, it was 2013 and not 2014.
Do you really mean a Lawotschkin La-5 ? As far as wikipedia has it, they had only been used during wartimes in Checoslovakia. Some planes however fell into german hands and were thoroughly tested to find out as much as possible about this plane by experienced pilots of the newly formed 2./Versuchsverband Ob.d.L., a unit formed in march 1942 by Hauptmann Theodor Rosarius on behalf of an order from Adolf Galland, by that time being the "General der Jagdflieger" (General of the fighter wing).
The unit got nicknamed "Wanderzirkus Rosarius" (Roaming circus Rosarius) because they would introduce american, british and russian fighter planes of many different types to pilots in other "Jagdfliegerschulen" (fighter pilot schools) in order to show any weak points or train how to attack them best in "simulated" air-combat. But they would also still see real combat in regular daylight missions as well as "Nachtjagd-Einsätze" (nighttime hunting missions), from ever different airfields - hence the name.
They *did* have the bf-109 G there, and it looked amazing! I read a couple of years ago that they moved it to their sister museum in Dresden.
I usually call the MHM Berlin-Gatow Museum "The German Pima Air & Space Museum" 😁
And looks like they moved the aircraft around quite a bit since my last visit 2018 (Covid-19 related maybe?)
Awesome Thank you for the great tour loved most of the jets especially the ealier MiG 21M? In the hanger along with the MiG 17 also loved the pristine looking MiG15 at the start. I was hoping you couldve filmed more of the He111 in that hanger but otherwise awesome.
21:33 what is written on the nose of the helikopter?
Das Ende einer Era:" the end of an era
Die Legendelebt weiter:" the Legend lives on
Hey Bismarck, I have a question for you if you happen to see this. What happened to nose art on war planes? I know that in WWII the USAAF, and British Commonwealth Airforces allowed (or at least turned a blind eye) to nose art on aircraft but afterwards we don’t see it anymore. Why did this change? As a side question did any other airforces use individual nose art? (as opposed to squadron colours/designs) any insight would be greatly appreciated.
Some non-scientific but still wild-assed guesses: the male/female roles before, say, 1960, allowed, even expected such macho displays; wartime allows morale boosters that wouldn't be tolerated in peacetime; and American planes in foreign countries are out of sight of the American press while the locals are told to tolerate such strange things as just the way Americans are.
I don't know much at all about other countries and nose art.
Great vid thanks for the tour, isn't that a mielec pzl lim5p (mig 17pf)? Did you know that the fiat G-91 was nicknamed "Gina" as a tribute to italian actress Gina lollobrigida, please if you can do a special report on the Piasecki H-21 if possible, l didn't have the chance to see anywhere like this one very well kept, thanks alot sincerely
Agreed; more on this very unusual helicopter would be greatly appreciated.
Rumors have it, back in the early '70s my beloved football club "Borussia Dortmund" had one of these, repainted in the club's colors. They planned to cut on the time necessary to get the players to their away games. Sadly I can't seem to find any trace of this on the net these days.
The first Mig 23 shown was actually a Mig 27, the ground attack version, if I've got that right...
Love your videos
Thank you for the video. Please note the first mig was Mig-27 not 23. Ground attack version of it, without radar just kiara laser range finder.
Can some of the stuff in the hangar fly??
Great stuff, would love to hear your story about Germany and the Starfighter.
The Flying Banana always amuses me - such a strange design
Piasecki H-21 "Workhorse".
that stout nose MiG is a 27, the pointy nose one is a 23 ;)
iKaBanana I think the mig23BN had a mig 27 nose as well
@@theroyalteabagyoutube4928 You are absolutely correct. Germany didn't receive any MiG-27, they were MiG-23BN indeed. Thank you!
I am surprised they did not have anything highlighting the Berlin airlift.
I am not sure if its still there but CIT (Cranfield University) used to have a black museum with a lot of interesting aviation stuff A4 V1 and so on
I wonder if that pilot who was infantry is a partial influence for Bruno Stachel in the Blue Max
I were there once, it is windy as shit
Have you ever thought about visiting the Flugausstellung Hermeskeil
, they have quite a lot of interesting planes there.
No mention of the dead body on the floor? Is that how you got into the exhibit?
I really like how Su-22 looks.Wish they could be used as air superiority fighters too like f4 phantom
There is a guy in the States that is restoring a BF-108 he's got it on youtube. Kermit Weeks I think his name is?
why is the hanger you are in at 18:09 closed to everyone
How did you charm your way into hangar 7? Or did you sneak in when security weren't looking?
I cried until it got too awkward for everyone so they let me inside
I used that technique in my youth, doesn't work when you're over 50 though...
i want to know what u are doing for your living :D are u doing this historical stuff for living, or is this just a really passionate hobby?
btw. i love your videos. very good shots and very interesting details about the planes! this is some quality content and i hope to see a lot more!
Great exhibit
was that a Fairey Gannet?
Yep
Yes, and it looks waaay better than it did out on the tarmac 5 years ago! They've given it some much needed love, attention and restoration! :)
@Military Aviation History - nice work. Buy a "wind baffle" (the big fuzzy things) BE-cause Dude the sound of wind on a mic is a 47 per-cent clickout. The roundel painting on the front of whirleybird is an interpretation of a Frederich Remington (of German heritage, omg!) statue called "End of the Road" and the meaning, Schatz, is not a joke, by any means. Frederich was saying "this is the end of the real American Dream" and he loved cowboys and Indians. When I was a kid I was always an Indian, not the cowboy, because we did the war whoops. Lots of German pilots died in Starfighters due to its lack of low-level avionics. It was a fantastic stratospheric bird that had zero gliding ability below fifty-thousand feet. I kid.
The second Mig 23 was a Mig 27. Mig 23 was air to mud, Mig 27 was air to air. Easiest way to tell them apart, nose in the 27 us more rounded to house the AI radar. The 23 doesn't have variable air inlets for the engine. Just an FYI not a critique.
Actually, no. The 23 had fighter and ground attack models, the 27 was the ground attack only one. The round nose ones are the fighters, flat nose ones are the ground attackers. The bomber 23 and 27 you can tell apart by the intakes. The 27 has a simpler splitter plate betwen the intake and the fuselage. And the czech trainer is a L-29 Delfin, not an Albatros.
Well honey, I've got my itinerary sorted out for our weekend trip to Berlin ... what will you be doing ???
The first mig wasn't a mig 23, it was his ground atack derivative mig27
Damn i wish my city have air museum too. I need to spend 12 hours to arrive closest air museum ;(
We have several Super Mystere here in Honduras
Was it a windy day?
Is this whole collection? Looks kinda small.
YOOOOOHOOOOO LUFTWAFFLE PILOTS YOOOHOOO LUFTWAFFLE PILOTS
From the outside this airport look almost exactly like the one in DayZ.
YES !!! THE F-4 Phantom 'THE IRON PIG " !!
Das Eisenschwein!
@@MilitaryAviationHistory THANKS ,I couldn't remember how to spell that !! GREAT NAME!!
Fat Herman's uniform used to be in a display cabinet at the museum
It *did*. I have a photo of it. As I remember, it was in one of the galleries in the control tower building.
... and there used to be a 3-rotor Enigma machine in the same section too.
You simply must visit the Vintage Flying Museum in Fort Worth, Texas, USA, once this Covid-19 thing is over. We have much history you'd be interested in. I could even give you a personal tour, if you'd like.
Duck! I can't see the targets.
I wanna see that museum.
I'd love to see the museum in real life. Thanks for making the video.
I don't mean to be overly critical, but the abrupt and constant camera movement actually started to make me feel sick. I had to pause the video and walk away a couple times. Please keep making videos! Just think "smooth and steady" while filming.
The f104, the Erdnagel..
Big Meme plane
i mostly confuse the Su 7, 17, 20 and 22 with each other all the time :D
I was there on 7.03.2020 lol
Mig-21 is my favorite jet fighter.
MiG23BN or 27?
23BN. It still has the supersonic inlets with the long splitter plates. 27s have simpler pitot inlets.
Dont tell us, the museum is actually - 19-03-2020 - open...?
Excellent video. Looking at the World War Two aircraft I thought it was against the law in Germany to display the Swastika.
The margins of allowance for the display of the swastika in Germany are tightly restricted to educational and historical purposes.
Such a shame! Was going to go here this week, but naturally cause of COVID and flying to Berlin that was a no go.. Oh well, maybe next year!
Hi, love your channel, but it is a 'gannet' not 'garnet'!
7.43 that plane looks like a F80
British Base until the early 90's
The Spanish HE111 Used merlins