Now this guy really knows his stuff..it is awesome that he took the time to tell you all this information...that goes to show how great this company is. Above and beyond
This is the best engie review that I ever heard. This man is a genius. I would never buy anything but that tohatsu. This is a fact. I am buying an engine this year. Decision made.
Be careful dude, I am the owner of Tohatsu MFS 20 since 6 days only and after making some research, I compared the availabilities of OEM parts and I see that Suzuki has more offers online and price is generally less than Tohatsu. Biggest difference: Impossible to get a Tohatsu software diagnostic if you are not the friend of Tohatsu dealer. Suzuki cable and diagnostic software is easy to get everywhere. I made long research about everything but it's was when I purchased that I realized that I didn't thought about this two things. Good luck for the rest.
Thank you very much for this video! I'm sitting here at the boatyard in Greece, and just ordered exact the same motor. Kudos to Andy from Backwoods Landing in Alabama. He definitely knows his stuff, and knows how to explain things. Not to long, not to short, right to the point!
Exactly! Glad you found as much or more value in the video as I did. Andy and Jeremy are awesome and have made my experience with the motor and boat pleasant. You honestly won't regret the purchase or the information Andy shared.
Just ran mine for the first time this weekend. I use it as a kicker motor for a bigger boat. It started right up and ran flawlessly, and I'm very happy with it. I got the LS/ES/power tilt model. This guy's review is very accurate save for not much detail about flushing. There is an excellent video here on TH-cam (CommonSenseSolutions) which covers suggested methods of flushing the motor. Enjoy!
Yes indeed, I tried to capture as much wisdom and experience as possible from Andy at backwoodslanding, I follow his instructions still to this today and it has never failed me.
Have this 20 efi on a 13’ inflatable boat. The response of this engine is incredible. It delivers an actual hole shot with zero hesitation. Fuel economy is not spoken enough about as it sips gas and you go a very long way on a 3 gallon tank. As this guys states; break-in is important. Highly recommend these engines.
@@davehanna1557 With a 10 pitch prop I get 28 to 29 by myself and all my gear. Have to go with a 9 pitch for 3 people and I get around 18 maybe 19...have saw 20 briefly. But wasn't doing any speed tests.
I’m purchasing a Skimmer Skiff 14’6” and it has this motor on it. I wanted to thank you for posting this video online. You are right, that was a wealth of knowledge het gave you and he made it sound easy. I wish I lived neat that dealer so they could service mine when I need it serviced. Good luck with your Tohatsu!
Thanks for watching, I appreciate it. Glad you got good value from the video. Yeah I wish I was closer to them myself so I can have regular maintenance. But yeah I'm sure you will love your tohatsu because I love mine.
I have the short shaft version. It's been a good motor. I didn't know exactly how the tilt lock operates, so was glad to hear Andy explain that. I bought mine for an inflatable that we carry along in our Sprinter van. I'd like to buy a jon boat like yours to keep at our dock & share the Tohatsu between them. I'll have to make sure that its transom works with the short shaft.
That's a good idea. A jon boat is harder to store but more efficient when you want to run out on the water. A short shaft should fit if you match the transom to the shaft.
Awesome video. I’m sat here in Devon, England researching outboards now. Just from this, I feel confident to go and make my purchase. That guy explains everything in just the right manner. Tight lines guys.
Exactly, I love the outboard and I am really happy I purchased from backwoodslanding and met Andy with all his knowledge. I have referenced this video many times for insight. Can't complain at all about this motor, more than pleased.
This is a really good motor. Mine fell off my boat and sat on the bottom of the Oklawaha river for 3 weeks before I could recover it. I brought it home, flushed oil and gas and it fired right up. Also, still has perfect compression and doesn't burn any oil. That being said, do not be afraid to hose the entire motor off with the cowling off if you run in the salt.
Wow that's a testament to its durability and overall quality. I will definitely be running it in salt for the first time next week, only a weekend trip. How do you maintenance yours in the salt water?
@@fishingistherapy I let it run in a bucket for at least 10 minutes and spray off the entire thing inside and out. Then spray entire engine with silicone spray. But I usually run in fresh to brackish water and just do a hose flush while running.
Please don’t forget to tell people, when you change any of the oils ( lower unit or engine ) the oil should be at least warm so it flows better and empties properly. Safe boating!!
Gday from Australia - That's a really good handover for the MFS20, well done guys, the only other thing I would add is to make sure you don't push down on the tiller to tilt the engine when you're in the boat, always used the had hold (are intake) on the top of the cowl to tilt the engine when you're in the boat,
Life Is Good ! Your Boat is Beautiful I Lived And Worked In Kennesaw And Hiked A Few Times Up Kennesaw Mountain Now That I’m A Senior Wouldn’t Even Attempt It
@@fishingistherapy nothing is this world is better than being on the water whether it's ocean or in backcountry swamps. There's no peace like it. Only true freedom left.
All I can say is do what you love and don't trade it for nothing. For me I love the ocean. It's a calming fear that can't really be described. It just draws you in.
Well said! We all have to do what we love, it gives you the inner peace, especially the strength to endure the hardships of life. I love the ocean too, it's all therapeutic to me.
Hello and good video with lots of useful information. This video helped me make the decision to get this outboard motor. Get my new Tohatsu 20hp next week 👍. Really enjoyed watching and subbed you. Atb Steve 👍
Nice! I'm pretty sure that was me..I was prepping for a striped bass fidhing trip tomorrow. Hopefully next time we see each other when can connect! It's always good to meet new peoole. And thanks glad you liked the review.
Some advice not sure if using warranty or not but I'd see about disabling or bypassing the auto tilt lock. That would be a pain trying to deal with that every single time.
I want to buy my first outboard, the same Tohatsu model as yours, for using in my camper trips. I will create a box between my chassis bars to store it perpendicular on the driving direction. Do you think it is wise to do that? Would the lateral movements of the car affect anything? Also, what side should I lean on during transport? Left or right? And what angle shoud it be up from the engine head so I don't get oil leaks? Is the tiller easy detachable? I might need to do it every time because of limited space in the transport box. Thanks!
Great questions. The lateral movement should bit affect anything. The most important part is that you need to lay the motor down on the Tiller side. You will notice a sticker just under the lip for the hood on the opposite of the tiller side that says "this side up". It should always be layed flat on the tiller side. I am not experienced with tilting it at any other angle, I just have followed the instructions they provided and haven't had an issue. The tiller handle, I have not taken off, but im sure it couldn't be difficult as this outboard is user friendly and parts are easy to replace. Hopefully this helps.
MY COLD PULL START IS VERY DIFFCULT! I bought the same motor new in 2019 but without electric start. I love the motor, except it is incredibly difficult to pull start a cold motor. Ive primed it, set to neutral, installed kill switch and set throttle to start position...it just doesn't want to start. Eventually, it will start. Once it warms up it will start in 1 or 2 pulls. The primer ball feels hard and full. I just cant figure it out. It is Fuel Injected so there is no Carb.
Yeah, I remember mine wouldn't electric start when the temperature was around 35 degrees, but after 10 to 12 pulls, it started up. Only experienced this once. I think my fuel line was frozen up.
I will picking up mine today. Buying it used. It's a 2020 model 20hp & pull start only. I was hoping since it is a small 4 stroke motor that it'd crank pretty easy. I've owned a lot of old pull starts and they're usually not difficult.
Question please, i transport tohatsu 20hp on proper side, tiller down side, and second time oil been flooding cylinders and locking starter. Why is this happening? I mean road can be windy and different change in slope when riding my car, but its laying on proper side, by the time I come to fishing spot, theres ton of oil leaked out and motor doesn't start, so frustrating, i just bought this motor and already having issues. Any suggestions?
Enjoyed the informative video. Got a new Tohatsu 20 HP in the box in my garage as we speak. Got to get it put on my boat soon. What type of gas do you recommend?
Glad you enjoyed the video. You are going to love your 20hp tohatsu, no doubt. I use non-ethanol gas in mine. Because regular gas attract water. I have had no issues storing or running non-ethanol. It runs very efficiently.
I have only had a Tohatsu outboard. I like the outboard alot and strongly recommend it. Mercury and Suzuki are all made by Tohatsu. Hard to beat the price and quality.
Exactly it's crazy how underated the motors are. People always say..to me "why didn't you get a mercury?" I just laugh and give them the insight...always surprises most people!
Should you drive with reverse lever in release position or locked ? From what you described sounds like it should be in release so that if it hits anything, the motor can move up . Correct ?
In reverse, with the lever on release, the motor will kick up due to the directional force. It's fine for slow movement, but if you give it gas it will kick up on you. The release is mainly for running forward in case you hit something and it will kick up over the object.
I'm not 100% sure but you sound blk, is not an issue if you are. This old man here doesn't even care. He's in hos zone loving every minute of what he's doing. Contrary to what some people will claim dude is full of love wisdom and happiness. For you good sir nice boat.
She will definitely push it, depends on the load your pushing and how you set the trim and tilt. But im looking to upgrade my 20hp to a 30hp, so that I have more power to push 2 people loaded down or 3 people.
I got a 25 tohatsu EFI won’t start fuel pump not running I think I hear the alarm while starter is spinning Oil level ok Alarm means no oil pressure I assume or overheat switch Any suggestions?
Unfortunately man I'm not very experienced. Just got my first tohatsu last year. Definitely sounds like sometimes is wring with fuel pump. Would take it to get it looked at.
Thanks. I love it thus far. It has been so convenient and I don't have to worry about ti starting up. It runs like a dream and the gas efficiency is amazing! Would definitely recommend it.
Man this is a great info video. Too bad the generation of mechanics like this old fellow are a dying bread. Too many people now that just know the computer aspect and not the actual motor anymore. We'll be picking up a 20hp Tohatsu today that is a 2020 model, pull start only. Really looking forward to running it on my 1648 Smokercraft. I just learned about Tohatsu, decided to buy this one instead of the Suzuki in the same size.. after watching this video I feel even better about my choice.
Man you won't regret your purchase. Most reliable and easy to work on motor I have experienced. You're right, the knowledge and wisdom has not been passed down or picked up by the next generation, I love to run into people who have that passion and wealth of knowledge.
Did you buy it from the factory? You should be able to tilt your motor up as seen in this video. There isn't anything hindering it from tilting back all the way?
Because the debris and particles left in the motor during manufacturing. Its similar to running a few gallons of water through a water filter to remove impurities before consuming it.
Owners of this motor stated that it does not start from first p u l l? It takes at least few pools in order to start the EFI. Is that the case with yours how many pulls does it take it to fire it?
Once when it was about 35 degrees out it took a couole pulls but when its warm out and the fuel pump is primed it takes 1 on average maybe 2. I honestly dont use it as much because it starts with electric on first spark right away. There hasnt been anything troublesome with starting this motor under normal conditions.
Not a bad idea to help prevent theft. I just run a chain from my outboard to the boat handle with a padlock. I am planning on getting the Mercury 20 hp which is Tohatsu as he mentioned. (Australia)
Thats a good idea. Definitely adding a lock to my outboard clamps soon. Installing a jackplate soon, I may bolt it on the jack plate once I have optimal performance dialed in.
Thanks for watching, glad you found value in my content. I customized my boat with 20inch side walls and transom. The motor is around 21.5 which makes it perfect for my setup. Honestly I went with the advice of what motor works best from the pros at backwoodslanding.
What difference in Tohatsu 20 HP MFS20EEFS VS MFS20EEFTS 5000RPM VS 5400 RPM? ls that because of little better trust and little more gas consumption, how it significant with performance? Is it worth to pay extra for that difference. Thanks
The EEFS is not power tilt and the EEF(T)S, the T stands for trim or electric trim to be exact. They are both short shaft models. I have the long 20in shaft for my boat because of my 20 inch transom. The more RPMs the more power output but the 400 rpm difference is not really noticeable when I run mine. It's all comes to personal preference. The gas on all models are so efficient I can't tell a difference if I'm at 5000 or 5400. Hope that helps.
@@fishingistherapy Do you think I need electrical tilt on 20 hp, I gona use inflatable so I ordered manual tilt, in my case I don't think I need it. It would be an extra thing I need to worried about, and if it manual it would be easier to adjust, what is your look on it?Thank you!
@@alexbilenko2457 Definitely just an added luxury that come with an extra hassle of putting in a switch and etc....I like that I don't have to worry about another electrical component and it's quicker to adjust and move it how I want it. Don't think it is necessary at all especially for the added money.
Don't wrap the kill switch key around your wrist unless you want to be in the water wondering why it slipped off your wrist while urr boat is motoring away !! always have it clipped to something on you that way it will not slip off anything.I have heard stories about unfortunate people have it slip off their wrist.....
This is the best engie review that I ever heard. This man is a genius. I would never buy anything but that tohatsu. This is a fact. I am buying an engine this year. Decision made.
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Now this guy really knows his stuff..it is awesome that he took the time to tell you all this information...that goes to show how great this company is. Above and beyond
Absolutely! That is an accurate assessment!
I miss this knowledgeable, professional and friendly people in business. He is awesome! 😎👍🏻
Exactly, people like Andy are gems and they should get the recognition they deserve. I appreciate you watching.
This is the best engie review that I ever heard. This man is a genius. I would never buy anything but that tohatsu. This is a fact. I am buying an engine this year. Decision made.
Yes indeed. He has many years of knowledge and experience especially with this motor brand. And the motor has been flawless every since.
Be careful dude, I am the owner of Tohatsu MFS 20 since 6 days only and after making some research, I compared the availabilities of OEM parts and I see that Suzuki has more offers online and price is generally less than Tohatsu.
Biggest difference:
Impossible to get a Tohatsu software diagnostic if you are not the friend of Tohatsu dealer.
Suzuki cable and diagnostic software is easy to get everywhere. I made long research about everything but it's was when I purchased that I realized that I didn't thought about this two things.
Good luck for the rest.
Thanks appreciate the warning and insight. Will definitely keep this in mind.
Thank you very much for this video! I'm sitting here at the boatyard in Greece, and just ordered exact the same motor. Kudos to Andy from Backwoods Landing in Alabama. He definitely knows his stuff, and knows how to explain things. Not to long, not to short, right to the point!
Exactly! Glad you found as much or more value in the video as I did. Andy and Jeremy are awesome and have made my experience with the motor and boat pleasant. You honestly won't regret the purchase or the information Andy shared.
Just ran mine for the first time this weekend. I use it as a kicker motor for a bigger boat. It started right up and ran flawlessly, and I'm very happy with it. I got the LS/ES/power tilt model. This guy's review is very accurate save for not much detail about flushing. There is an excellent video here on TH-cam (CommonSenseSolutions) which covers suggested methods of flushing the motor. Enjoy!
Yup your exactly right. I checked out that channel and have had good convos with him. Yeah it's a great reliable motor.
I just learned more about a motor in this video than in my whole life
Man I learned more from him in that same amount of time as I have my whole life as well. Great insight.
Big thank you to camera man and to this knowledgeable gentleman
Yes indeed, I tried to capture as much wisdom and experience as possible from Andy at backwoodslanding, I follow his instructions still to this today and it has never failed me.
@fishingistherapy thank you!
My pleasure.
Have this 20 efi on a 13’ inflatable boat. The response of this engine is incredible. It delivers an actual hole shot with zero hesitation. Fuel economy is not spoken enough about as it sips gas and you go a very long way on a 3 gallon tank. As this guys states; break-in is important. Highly recommend these engines.
Well stated. I echo your sentiment regarding this engine. I love the fuel economy and overall reliability! Glad I made the purchase!
Have the same unit takes more than a quart with the filter. 1.2 quarts almost.
Thanks I have only used a quart but the .2 extra sounds right.
How fast will it go? I just ordered one for a 14’ inflatable… I’m stoked!
@@davehanna1557 With a 10 pitch prop I get 28 to 29 by myself and all my gear. Have to go with a 9 pitch for 3 people and I get around 18 maybe 19...have saw 20 briefly. But wasn't doing any speed tests.
I’m purchasing a Skimmer Skiff 14’6” and it has this motor on it. I wanted to thank you for posting this video online. You are right, that was a wealth of knowledge het gave you and he made it sound easy. I wish I lived neat that dealer so they could service mine when I need it serviced. Good luck with your Tohatsu!
Thanks for watching, I appreciate it. Glad you got good value from the video. Yeah I wish I was closer to them myself so I can have regular maintenance. But yeah I'm sure you will love your tohatsu because I love mine.
I have the short shaft version. It's been a good motor. I didn't know exactly how the tilt lock operates, so was glad to hear Andy explain that. I bought mine for an inflatable that we carry along in our Sprinter van. I'd like to buy a jon boat like yours to keep at our dock & share the Tohatsu between them. I'll have to make sure that its transom works with the short shaft.
That's a good idea. A jon boat is harder to store but more efficient when you want to run out on the water. A short shaft should fit if you match the transom to the shaft.
I have one of these engines. I put 12 hours on it last wednesday non stop and have about 200 hours total. It has been flawless.
I 100% agree with you. Such a great outboard!
Awesome video. I’m sat here in Devon, England researching outboards now. Just from this, I feel confident to go and make my purchase. That guy explains everything in just the right manner. Tight lines guys.
Exactly, I love the outboard and I am really happy I purchased from backwoodslanding and met Andy with all his knowledge. I have referenced this video many times for insight. Can't complain at all about this motor, more than pleased.
This Tohatsu is so well thought out in design to self service.
Well said, I agree 100%. Very practical and easy to maintain.
This is a really good motor. Mine fell off my boat and sat on the bottom of the Oklawaha river for 3 weeks before I could recover it. I brought it home, flushed oil and gas and it fired right up. Also, still has perfect compression and doesn't burn any oil. That being said, do not be afraid to hose the entire motor off with the cowling off if you run in the salt.
Wow that's a testament to its durability and overall quality. I will definitely be running it in salt for the first time next week, only a weekend trip. How do you maintenance yours in the salt water?
@@fishingistherapy I let it run in a bucket for at least 10 minutes and spray off the entire thing inside and out. Then spray entire engine with silicone spray. But I usually run in fresh to brackish water and just do a hose flush while running.
Okay thanks for the great info. I will likely run some salt-away treatment through it and rinse for atleast 10 mins.
Please don’t forget to tell people, when you change any of the oils ( lower unit or engine ) the oil should be at least warm so it flows better and empties properly. Safe boating!!
Thanks, your right, appreciate the insight.
Wow, the gentleman loves this job! That was a true class, such a nice boat!!
Man I call him anytime I need tips or insight, he is such a wealth of knowledge. Your right it's nice and has been good to me!
Gday from Australia - That's a really good handover for the MFS20, well done guys, the only other thing I would add is to make sure you don't push down on the tiller to tilt the engine when you're in the boat, always used the had hold (are intake) on the top of the cowl to tilt the engine when you're in the boat,
Great advice, thanks for sharing it.
Life Is Good ! Your Boat is Beautiful I Lived And Worked In Kennesaw And Hiked A Few Times Up Kennesaw Mountain Now That I’m A Senior Wouldn’t Even Attempt It
Yeah I love hiking the kennesaw mountain battleground it's beautiful. Life is good. Thanks I appreciate it. I love hiw the boat turned out.
I have the same motor, only it has electric tilt. Excellent, no regrets.
I agree with you! Great motors, I wish I would have got the electric tilt and trim.
Old man made me sub. The entire video so wholesome 🥰.
Yeah meeting Andy made my experience with backwoodslanding a great experience. His presence, knowledge and energy was second to none.
@@fishingistherapy not to many people in the world left like that. World wouldn't be so bad if people just loved what they do.
@@fishingistherapy nothing is this world is better than being on the water whether it's ocean or in backcountry swamps. There's no peace like it. Only true freedom left.
All I can say is do what you love and don't trade it for nothing. For me I love the ocean. It's a calming fear that can't really be described. It just draws you in.
Well said! We all have to do what we love, it gives you the inner peace, especially the strength to endure the hardships of life. I love the ocean too, it's all therapeutic to me.
Hell yeah bro. You been leveling up! I bet maintaining a boat in GA/AL way nicer than the Bay!
Yes indeed bro. Way better and definitely alot easier financially!
Hello and good video with lots of useful information. This video helped me make the decision to get this outboard motor. Get my new Tohatsu 20hp next week 👍. Really enjoyed watching and subbed you. Atb Steve 👍
Thanks Steve, appreciate the support and I'm glad you enjoyed the content and found value in it.
Bought my 20hp 'hatsu from Backwoods. Good people.
Definitely good people. How has yours been holding up? I love mine. I just went over the 1 year mark.
@@fishingistherapy Been holding up well. Bought it back in October. Just now getting it fully broken-in well.
Yeah I bought mine in October as well, broke it in right away, running strong every since.
Thank you very much for sharing the valuable video.👍
My pleasure. Glad you enjoyed it.
Excellent information!! Thank you.
Thank you for watching, there was a wealth of knowledge shared.
Ilike ole Andy! Think I'll buy my motor from him too.
Definitely one of the best purchase decisions I have made. I got a wealth of knowledge that has helped me tremendously!
He knows, he knows 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Yes indeed!
Nice review! Pretty sure I saw you in cabelas this evening!
Nice! I'm pretty sure that was me..I was prepping for a striped bass fidhing trip tomorrow. Hopefully next time we see each other when can connect! It's always good to meet new peoole. And thanks glad you liked the review.
Nice review! I ordered one of these bad boys today! Now I won’t have to read anything 😂
Nice...your going to really enjoy it...they are so efficient and well worth the money. And yeah this video gives you the full rundown.
Some advice not sure if using warranty or not but I'd see about disabling or bypassing the auto tilt lock. That would be a pain trying to deal with that every single time.
I want to buy my first outboard, the same Tohatsu model as yours, for using in my camper trips.
I will create a box between my chassis bars to store it perpendicular on the driving direction.
Do you think it is wise to do that? Would the lateral movements of the car affect anything?
Also, what side should I lean on during transport? Left or right?
And what angle shoud it be up from the engine head so I don't get oil leaks?
Is the tiller easy detachable? I might need to do it every time because of limited space in the transport box.
Thanks!
Great questions. The lateral movement should bit affect anything. The most important part is that you need to lay the motor down on the Tiller side. You will notice a sticker just under the lip for the hood on the opposite of the tiller side that says "this side up". It should always be layed flat on the tiller side. I am not experienced with tilting it at any other angle, I just have followed the instructions they provided and haven't had an issue. The tiller handle, I have not taken off, but im sure it couldn't be difficult as this outboard is user friendly and parts are easy to replace. Hopefully this helps.
MY COLD PULL START IS VERY DIFFCULT!
I bought the same motor new in 2019 but without electric start.
I love the motor, except it is incredibly difficult to pull start a cold motor. Ive primed it, set to neutral, installed kill switch and set throttle to start position...it just doesn't want to start. Eventually, it will start. Once it warms up it will start in 1 or 2 pulls.
The primer ball feels hard and full.
I just cant figure it out.
It is Fuel Injected so there is no Carb.
Yeah, I remember mine wouldn't electric start when the temperature was around 35 degrees, but after 10 to 12 pulls, it started up. Only experienced this once. I think my fuel line was frozen up.
@@fishingistherapy mine has been difficult every time I use it.
Hopefully someone has some good advice.
Thats for the video, I learned a few things.
Hopefully you can figure it out. Glad you enjoyed my video and found it helpful. Let me know if you figure it out.
I will picking up mine today. Buying it used. It's a 2020 model 20hp & pull start only. I was hoping since it is a small 4 stroke motor that it'd crank pretty easy. I've owned a lot of old pull starts and they're usually not difficult.
Wow, that was very informative! 👍
Thanks, yeah the backwoodslanding staff have a wealth of knowledge. Saved me so much research and has kept my boat and outboard running strong.
Great video!!! Many thanks 🙏
Glad you enjoyed the info and content!
Question please, i transport tohatsu 20hp on proper side, tiller down side, and second time oil been flooding cylinders and locking starter. Why is this happening? I mean road can be windy and different change in slope when riding my car, but its laying on proper side, by the time I come to fishing spot, theres ton of oil leaked out and motor doesn't start, so frustrating, i just bought this motor and already having issues. Any suggestions?
Enjoyed the informative video. Got a new Tohatsu 20 HP in the box in my garage as we speak. Got to get it put on my boat soon. What type of gas do you recommend?
Glad you enjoyed the video. You are going to love your 20hp tohatsu, no doubt. I use non-ethanol gas in mine. Because regular gas attract water. I have had no issues storing or running non-ethanol. It runs very efficiently.
Do u lock the tilt lever when you fishing in river? Or do you always keep it unlocked in case you hit something?
Unlocked just in case I hit something. I run it the exact same way Andy in this video told me to run it.
Best review of all time. Last thing is bad driver … I don't warranty that. Lol.
Really cool very informative guy. Andy is the guy you can talk to for hours.
Hi 👋 , what termic engine 20 hp for inflatable boat is the best in your opinien? Thank you 🙏
Hey. What do you mean by termic?
@@fishingistherapy engine boat 4 stoke. In Europa is " termic "
I have only had a Tohatsu outboard. I like the outboard alot and strongly recommend it. Mercury and Suzuki are all made by Tohatsu. Hard to beat the price and quality.
Break-in procedure is in the manual.
Correct.Appreciate it!
Very underated motor, heck mercury 30hp under are all tohatsu, even dead Evinrude the smaller motors where rebadged tohatsu or suzukies
Exactly it's crazy how underated the motors are. People always say..to me "why didn't you get a mercury?" I just laugh and give them the insight...always surprises most people!
Should you drive with reverse lever in release position or locked ? From what you described sounds like it should be in release so that if it hits anything, the motor can move up . Correct ?
Yes this is correct. Release is best.
In reverse, with the lever on release, the motor will kick up due to the directional force. It's fine for slow movement, but if you give it gas it will kick up on you.
The release is mainly for running forward in case you hit something and it will kick up over the object.
Right, your correct. It's best for running forward not backward unless moving slow like reversing through stumps.
I'm not 100% sure but you sound blk, is not an issue if you are. This old man here doesn't even care. He's in hos zone loving every minute of what he's doing. Contrary to what some people will claim dude is full of love wisdom and happiness. For you good sir nice boat.
Right..he is just a genuine guy who loves what he does.
That’s very good information 👍
Thanks thought sharing it could add value to someone looking for this in-depth information. Glad you enjoyed it!
@@fishingistherapy I viewed a lot. This one is by far the best. Thanks.
@@michaelwolf8781 Much appreciated. Your welcome.
This man reminds me of my grandpa. Also covid sadly killed evinrude.
Condolences. Men like him have a wealth of knowledge and experience that has to be passed on, shared and appreciated.
BRP killed Evinrude
What about BRP killed evinrude?
Why use the long shaft engine on what appears to be only about a 15" transom?
It's a 20 inch transom and 21 inch shaft outboard.
How do you think that motor would do on a 1546 Xpress? Two people max
She will definitely push it, depends on the load your pushing and how you set the trim and tilt. But im looking to upgrade my 20hp to a 30hp, so that I have more power to push 2 people loaded down or 3 people.
I got a 25 tohatsu EFI won’t start fuel pump not running I think I hear the alarm while starter is spinning Oil level ok Alarm means no oil pressure I assume or overheat switch Any suggestions?
Unfortunately man I'm not very experienced. Just got my first tohatsu last year. Definitely sounds like sometimes is wring with fuel pump. Would take it to get it looked at.
Good video it is very informative. I have been looking @ the same outboard for my Jon Boat. Hod do you like the outboard thus far?
Thanks. I love it thus far. It has been so convenient and I don't have to worry about ti starting up. It runs like a dream and the gas efficiency is amazing! Would definitely recommend it.
great knowledge and video !!
Appreciate that. Glad you like the video and the knowledge from Andy!
Man this is a great info video. Too bad the generation of mechanics like this old fellow are a dying bread. Too many people now that just know the computer aspect and not the actual motor anymore.
We'll be picking up a 20hp Tohatsu today that is a 2020 model, pull start only. Really looking forward to running it on my 1648 Smokercraft.
I just learned about Tohatsu, decided to buy this one instead of the Suzuki in the same size.. after watching this video I feel even better about my choice.
Man you won't regret your purchase. Most reliable and easy to work on motor I have experienced. You're right, the knowledge and wisdom has not been passed down or picked up by the next generation, I love to run into people who have that passion and wealth of knowledge.
How do you get it to tilt all the way up past that shallow water running position?
I just hit the lever and pull it all the way up. You just have to make sure it is lubricated well but you should be able to flip the lever simply.
I bought the short shaft, 4 more hrs of break in time but mine won.t tilt all the way up like the long shaft @ the 3 min 11 sec mark?
Did you buy it from the factory? You should be able to tilt your motor up as seen in this video. There isn't anything hindering it from tilting back all the way?
@@fishingistherapy I think i figured out the problem, thank you!
@@baird5776mullet Glad you did. This outboard is second to none.
Im looking at picking up the exact same motor. How slow will it troll
Nice. On my setup, it usually trolls around 1.9-2.5mph.
Why you wanna change filter and oil after break in?
Because the debris and particles left in the motor during manufacturing. Its similar to running a few gallons of water through a water filter to remove impurities before consuming it.
Owners of this motor stated that it does not start from first p u l l? It takes at least few pools in order to start the EFI. Is that the case with yours how many pulls does it take it to fire it?
Once when it was about 35 degrees out it took a couole pulls but when its warm out and the fuel pump is primed it takes 1 on average maybe 2. I honestly dont use it as much because it starts with electric on first spark right away. There hasnt been anything troublesome with starting this motor under normal conditions.
Great vidio
@roncolpo3731 Thanks, I enjoyed making it and learning from Andy.
@@fishingistherapy yes very knowledgeable.....I think I may be getting one soon
Well, I can say its definitely a great investment and the maintenance and parts are easy to access.
Have you ever found a need to hard mount the motor to the transom via bolts so you're just not relying on the clamps?
No I haven't. Runs great as is..I just adjust my tilt and switch props based on load. All is else is great.
@@fishingistherapy awesome, thanks for the reply
@@thejayvodlexperience7856 All good...glad I could help.
Not a bad idea to help prevent theft. I just run a chain from my outboard to the boat handle with a padlock. I am planning on getting the Mercury 20 hp which is Tohatsu as he mentioned. (Australia)
Thats a good idea. Definitely adding a lock to my outboard clamps soon. Installing a jackplate soon, I may bolt it on the jack plate once I have optimal performance dialed in.
Ok… alright…ok…alright lmao someone take the scratched record off
🤣 I think we all repeat few phrases from time to time if we look hard enough.
Did the fuel line come with a squeeze ball?
Yes it did!
@@fishingistherapy T.Y.
This 20hp how much the fuel consumption?
Very little fuel consumption. Its around 1.6 gallons an hour at WOT.
Great walk through. Question - why did you go with the long shaft, rather than short?
Thanks for watching, glad you found value in my content. I customized my boat with 20inch side walls and transom. The motor is around 21.5 which makes it perfect for my setup. Honestly I went with the advice of what motor works best from the pros at backwoodslanding.
@@fishingistherapy thanks, looks like a great rig that could last you forever.
So far I have no complaints about anything...enjoy it everytime I go it. Even just sitting it in the garage is fun🤣
20 or 21 inch transom you need a long shaft, 16 or 17 invh transom you need a short shaft
Yes indeed, your right.
What difference in Tohatsu 20 HP MFS20EEFS VS MFS20EEFTS 5000RPM VS 5400 RPM? ls that because of little better trust and little more gas consumption, how it significant with performance? Is it worth to pay extra for that difference. Thanks
The EEFS is not power tilt and the EEF(T)S, the T stands for trim or electric trim to be exact. They are both short shaft models. I have the long 20in shaft for my boat because of my 20 inch transom. The more RPMs the more power output but the 400 rpm difference is not really noticeable when I run mine. It's all comes to personal preference. The gas on all models are so efficient I can't tell a difference if I'm at 5000 or 5400. Hope that helps.
@@fishingistherapy thanks for your the best respond
@@alexbilenko2457 your welcome glad to help
@@fishingistherapy Do you think I need electrical tilt on 20 hp, I gona use inflatable so I ordered manual tilt, in my case I don't think I need it. It would be an extra thing I need to worried about, and if it manual it would be easier to adjust, what is your look on it?Thank you!
@@alexbilenko2457 Definitely just an added luxury that come with an extra hassle of putting in a switch and etc....I like that I don't have to worry about another electrical component and it's quicker to adjust and move it how I want it. Don't think it is necessary at all especially for the added money.
Don't wrap the kill switch key around your wrist unless you want to be in the water wondering why it slipped off your wrist while urr boat is motoring away !! always have it clipped to something on you that way it will not slip off anything.I have heard stories about unfortunate people have it slip off their wrist.....
I appreciate that advice. Definitely will make that adjustment. Makes total sense.
Always keep a spare kill switch handy in boat
Appreciate the advice. Very I sightful. Will implement. Thanks.
Good advice. I'm guilty of being lazy & slipping it over my wrist. Makes sense that it'll just as easily slip right off.
Great advice!
yes nice.
Thanks. Appreciate it.
Where did you buy it from?
Backwoodslanding in AL. Check out my earlier video when I bought it.
@@fishingistherapy thanks. I'm looking for 15 for my 14ft Jon
Can't go wrong with either one. They both will run great on your 14ft.
Okay.....
One hour petrol useing liters
You use one liter of petrol per hour?
Ok, alright, i got it...😅😅😅😅
🤣😅. Hilarious
A lot of nolage on that guy!!
Definitely has alot of wisdom. Glad I met him!
$ 3,295 usd !
Here in Europe this outboard is 4000euros😢
Wow that's a significant process difference. Any insight into why the price is different?
@fishingistherapy taxes l gess, every thing is more expensive here
@dorotejtaseski Wow that's alot of taxes. But if it was 4k here, I would still purchase it. Thats how much I love the outboard.
Holy s*** how many times you're going to say OK
This is the best engie review that I ever heard. This man is a genius. I would never buy anything but that tohatsu. This is a fact. I am buying an engine this year. Decision made.
This man is passionate about his job. Everyone should be happy about his review
Thank you for sharing good information. Good stuff.
My pleasure, I'm glad you found the content valuable. I app6you watching.
Excellent video, thank you.
Your welcome. Thanks for watching, appreciate it!