When tightening suspension bolts, torque to specs on when vehicle suspension is on level ground to alleviate tension on bushings…..otherwise shortening the life of rubber bushings…
Yes. This loads the bushings incorrectly and will cause premature wear and tears in them. On top of that, he threw away some good OEM control arms when pressing out the bushings takes just a few minutes and is a lot cheaper. Unless the control arm itself is damaged, there's no reason to replace it.
I just did this on my ‘07 Odyssey last week. Not that hard to do, however have to disconnect sway bar links to get the sway bar out of the way to get that back bolt out and back in.
“C’mon bitch, get out of there.” 😂 That’s usually cuss factor level one for me. Goes downhill from there. Level 2 is “dogvomit bastard”, and then on to higher cuss factors.
I agree, they were hard on this guy! Those cracks might be fine for years yet, 50% of the cars would be off the road tomorrow if they pulled inspections like that all the time!
@@roadking99jokerst60 if you’re hearing clunks it’s time to replace something. Probably sway bar links if your compliance bushing look good. Mine was popping like crazy with VERY little movement. But I could see thru the compliance bushing all the way to the inner sleeve. Pressed it out and pressed a new one in, no more pops. I also did the ball joint.
I've been driving with those thinkgs looking worse than that for 10+ years always thinking when will it ever need actual replacing and no issues, its rubber it's normal wear, the outside is exposed to the elements more than the inside of the rubber, it's still functional, i think that job was a rip-off and those control arms were not that bad they could probably go many more years without replacement.
If you REALLY wanna save some money just get the damn bushing and replace it, saving yourself the 200 Fucking dollars to replace a perfectly good control arm. It’ll be a bit more headache to press the bushing out but it’s about one 10th the price of the control arm.
Very few people have the specialized equipment necessary to replace control arm bushing as a very strong press is neeeded. Decent arms can be had for $200 total and your looking at $60 for the bushings for each arm.
Dang it, there was nothing wrong with that control arm anyways, minor cracks on the outside of the rubber are totally normal, just like on motor mounts, brand new one will have the same cracks within a year that does not mean replace every year. Shame on these "mechanics".
I have a 2012 Odyssey and have had my lower control arms replaced multiple times over the last few years. Any thoughts on why this may be occuring so frequently? Thx!
Curious. Are you replacing because you thinkg they are bad or because they went bad and were undrivable? Minor cracks on the outside does not mean they are bad inside. I've seen some people prematurely replacing things like motor mounts or these control arms for example because they see a couple small cracks on the outside. Big difference if its a full crack all the way to the core which could affect performance or minor cracks due to the rubber being exposed to the elements.
Extra wear and tear on the rubber bushings will accelerate failure if they're not properly loaded during final bolt torque-down. Also, you might live in the Salt Belt which is horribly rough on everything. I'm thinking of coating my rubber bushings with Dow Corning 111 Molykote silicone compound to see if it helps prevent the smaller cracks which lead to larger ones.
The nut wobbles. You twist it into the he. Now my problem is the back side bushing. It got stuck in a d I can't line up the bolt into it. I cant beat the bushing out or in.
@AutoRepairTips757 yeah. My hands are swollen right now. After fighting to get the bolt on. I had tl adjust the bushing joints using wrench extension to line the top and bottom joints with the holes.
This guy is an experienced mechanic but it looks like he’s even having a go at this. Lol. Maybe 2-3 times as long to get this done for a weekend warrior? Either way worth trying to save a bill of 1700. Jesus.
It's not easy folks. This is why someone would trade their time for a minimum of 1k especially if they have to do 2 sides. Mechanics would much rather you do your own work because some rusty bolts etc... are a nightmare to get out so please feel free to do ALL your own work because I sure do my own work and still prefer to pay Mechanics when I know The price is worth the headache.
That after market control arm is Made in China no good, made in USA, Japan and Germany is better, lol just kidding it depends how much you want to spend.
When tightening suspension bolts, torque to specs on when vehicle suspension is on level ground to alleviate tension on bushings…..otherwise shortening the life of rubber bushings…
Yeah, I saw that pointed out on a couple other videos. Very good info!
As you note, it's absolutely critical that you load the suspension before you tighten things back up.
U forgot to jack up and load up suspension before u torque the round bolt
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Yes. This loads the bushings incorrectly and will cause premature wear and tears in them. On top of that, he threw away some good OEM control arms when pressing out the bushings takes just a few minutes and is a lot cheaper. Unless the control arm itself is damaged, there's no reason to replace it.
I just did this on my ‘07 Odyssey last week. Not that hard to do, however have to disconnect sway bar links to get the sway bar out of the way to get that back bolt out and back in.
“C’mon bitch, get out of there.” 😂 That’s usually cuss factor level one for me. Goes downhill from there. Level 2 is “dogvomit bastard”, and then on to higher cuss factors.
Appreciate your help!
No worries!
I agree, they were hard on this guy! Those cracks might be fine for years yet, 50% of the cars would be off the road tomorrow if they pulled inspections like that all the time!
I'm hearing clunks from mine but no excess play, nor tire wear.
@@roadking99jokerst60 if you’re hearing clunks it’s time to replace something. Probably sway bar links if your compliance bushing look good. Mine was popping like crazy with VERY little movement. But I could see thru the compliance bushing all the way to the inner sleeve. Pressed it out and pressed a new one in, no more pops. I also did the ball joint.
@@josephherron7671 Mine was the swaybar links. Clunks all gone.
Great camera angels, good job! 👍
Thanks
I've been driving with those thinkgs looking worse than that for 10+ years always thinking when will it ever need actual replacing and no issues, its rubber it's normal wear, the outside is exposed to the elements more than the inside of the rubber, it's still functional, i think that job was a rip-off and those control arms were not that bad they could probably go many more years without replacement.
Is it possible to just replace the large bushing. I see on RockAuto they're about three bucks. Control arm bushing
Thank You for sharing
Good vid.
Thanks
If you REALLY wanna save some money just get the damn bushing and replace it, saving yourself the 200 Fucking dollars to replace a perfectly good control arm. It’ll be a bit more headache to press the bushing out but it’s about one 10th the price of the control arm.
That’s exactly what i did with my 06 odyssey but i broke my brand new 12 ton press doing it.
Very few people have the specialized equipment necessary to replace control arm bushing as a very strong press is neeeded. Decent arms can be had for $200 total and your looking at $60 for the bushings for each arm.
2011 Odyssey you have to replace the whole control arm.
@@DK-bm5rgThat is not an accurate statement. You can replace the bushings individually on a 2011 Odyssey. Ask me how I know.
Dang it, there was nothing wrong with that control arm anyways, minor cracks on the outside of the rubber are totally normal, just like on motor mounts, brand new one will have the same cracks within a year that does not mean replace every year. Shame on these "mechanics".
I have a 2012 Odyssey and have had my lower control arms replaced multiple times over the last few years. Any thoughts on why this may be occuring so frequently? Thx!
most likely someone is replacing with cheap inferior parts. Honda OEM parts are very expensive but they are well made and last a long time.
Curious. Are you replacing because you thinkg they are bad or because they went bad and were undrivable? Minor cracks on the outside does not mean they are bad inside. I've seen some people prematurely replacing things like motor mounts or these control arms for example because they see a couple small cracks on the outside. Big difference if its a full crack all the way to the core which could affect performance or minor cracks due to the rubber being exposed to the elements.
Extra wear and tear on the rubber bushings will accelerate failure if they're not properly loaded during final bolt torque-down. Also, you might live in the Salt Belt which is horribly rough on everything.
I'm thinking of coating my rubber bushings with Dow Corning 111 Molykote silicone compound to see if it helps prevent the smaller cracks which lead to larger ones.
i just replaced two control arms in a 2005 Honda Accord. Three out of six bolts seized up in the metal sleeves. That made the job so tedious.
sorry to hear that
nice thank u
The nut wobbles. You twist it into the he. Now my problem is the back side bushing. It got stuck in a d I can't line up the bolt into it. I cant beat the bushing out or in.
did you get it installed ok
@AutoRepairTips757 yeah. My hands are swollen right now. After fighting to get the bolt on. I had tl adjust the bushing joints using wrench extension to line the top and bottom joints with the holes.
This looks like a southern car. My Odyssey is newer and the lower control arm nut is completely encased in rust.
This guy is an experienced mechanic but it looks like he’s even having a go at this. Lol. Maybe 2-3 times as long to get this done for a weekend warrior? Either way worth trying to save a bill of 1700. Jesus.
That's why they call it a Stealership.
It's not easy folks. This is why someone would trade their time for a minimum of 1k especially if they have to do 2 sides. Mechanics would much rather you do your own work because some rusty bolts etc... are a nightmare to get out so please feel free to do ALL your own work because I sure do my own work and still prefer to pay Mechanics when I know The price is worth the headache.
Thanks bro , you just save me $1100
Glad I could help
That after market control arm is Made in China no good, made in USA, Japan and Germany is better, lol just kidding it depends how much you want to spend.
No good