0:00 Introduction 0:47 Catching up, October & insulation 2:44 Who works on the Steam version? Kitfox & their involvement. 7:35 In-game references to obsolete features 9:33 Accessibility 11:49 Text scaling and the UI in the Steam release 14:44 StA:GoBCII:DF, makovers, continuity and betraying old fans 17:44 Plans for the other modes' UI, keybindings, comparisons 22:23 Plans for the audio 23:54 DF intro ⛏️😱 26:08 Major obstacles in the development? 28:20 Steam Link support? 29:17 Modding & Steam workshop support? 30:10 Moon in the UI and related plans 32:06 Other races, migration, plus-size fashion and workshops 33:43 Representing entity size in the Steam release 35:15 🐈 Scamps' laptop 35:41 Smooth scrolling, rendering and Curses 38:08 Changes to the UI in "classic" DF? 39:55 Challenges of developing the two versions in parallel 41:24 🐈 Expanding the portfolio & plans for future 44:05 Game soundtrack 45:35 Natural disasters, map changes 47:44 Family heirlooms 48:54 Moods & memory promotions and coasters (𝒮𝒶𝓁) 🐈 51:56 Migrants & handling of the dwarves' memory (𝒮𝒶𝓁) 53:01 Mechanics of the desensitisation (𝒮𝒶𝓁) 55:20 Hidden stressors for dwarves, more on moods (𝒮𝒶𝓁) 🐈 1:04:09 Giants, clothing & culture 1:06:33 Expanding the machinery 1:08:10 Noble titles 1:09:18 Favourite artifact from DCSS & roguelikes 🐈 1:12:45 The games toads play 1:15:20 Release date? Progress 1:18:34 Outro
Giants should demand huge clothes as a tribute from the closest settlement to their lair. You spend some of your wealth and I don't do a rampage. Deal? Deal! Over time I will demand fancier clothing though, so you better keep up!
One of my biggest wants for this game is boats, and lava boats. Imagine being able to build insane boats and floating fortresses in the middle of the ocean.
@@BlindiRL I've ended up generating so many maps where entire civilizations were just.. cut off from each other completely because they all lived on islands, or separate continents. Think of the trade possibilities alone if you just.. had a civilization that could build a sea port and have boats that trade caravans could ride, or that you could buy passage on in adventure mode.
@@mr.nobody896 Not just "Ship", but.. "SHIP FORTRESS!!!" or "FORTRESS OF SHIPS!!!". Not just "Port", but "PORT FORTRESS!" Think of the possibilities of having to figure out new ways to defend against goblin sea pirate sieges!
I saw a sea fortress. Once. Just once. When the winter came, the ice was dug out and supports were created, along with a bridge to the sea fort which could be withdrawn by levers. it took a number of years, but failed and soon sank beneath the waves.
1:05 toady you could have the future giants culture hunt other megabeasts and just large animals so they could make cloaks out of roks, boots out of randomly generated titans, helmets out of dragonbone, gloves out of elephants and Giant Elephant hide, etc right? Usei's idea for a basic default stone age type culture is a good one.
Here's an idea in regards to powered workshops maybe increase the speed of crafting at a powered workshop or some items being locked behind powered shops
@@BlindiRL Yeah :D Also on the thing about dwarves still being stressed even when happy, one thing ive noticed is dwarves can be incredibly happy despite not having needs met. Like for example, you can have dwarves that are all to happy to just be a soldier and train and all that all day, totally ignoring everything else (aside from essentials of coarse) and theyll be happy as a clam even as they start to show lots of stress regardless. Im wondering if unmet needs generate unhappy thoughts without showing them :thinking:
I think that one thing that would work well for increasing accessibility for this game would be a "Tutorial Mode" or a "Tutorial Release" that has scripted events and messages that pop up and holds your hand through every task. Almost every game has a tutorial now and players are used to that, rather than just reading a huge, complex wiki. I'm willing to bet that most people introduced to Dwarf Fortress don't even know that a wiki exists. This could be a separate release, or some kind of option at game start that would ideally hold your hand through basic playing, and maybe do some hand holding for more complicated stuff. It wouldn't have to do everything, just serve as an introduction to get new people semi-competent with the UI, goals, objectives, etc..
I would love a tutorial, As of the last interview (June) Tarn and team were undecided and I did not want to rehash to many of the same questions. Hoping we hear something sooner rather then later.
All the social and community interaction would be awesome to see integrated (like dwarves seeking other dwarves out, to look after their mental health). Could help reduce tantrum spirals, and keep your dwarves alive. I'd love to see this just from a story experience perspective as well, like Blind mentioned: "Imagining dwarves seeking their friends out, to make sure they're doing OK, is adorable". I agree. A fantastic concept. We need this in DF.
I am never giving up my numpad. The thought of abolishing it is madness! I also can't think of a rogue-like I've ever wanted to play as a "clicker" over numpad movement.
I am playing DF now and listening to this interview, and realised I never noticed the moon before, until now. The moon just turned to full and a freaking Werelizard just turned up.
@@BlindiRL is there anyway to check the moon phase in the current version please? Im not sure if it was this interview but I seem to remember a discussion about beardless dwarves, just randomly came across this post from 2015 regarding a dwarf who's dream is to rule the world and had no beard, a suggestion in the replies is that they're signs of goblin culture, I also watch Krugg and thought this interesting www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=150231.0
I think the best approach to the name problem would be to make the official name of the game be “Dwarf Fortress” while the in-game title shows the subtitle “Slaves to Armok: Chapter 2”
I have one of the Steam Link consoles. I use it for Dwarf Fortress regularly and it works quite well. (I use it with wireless keyboard and mouse. I think the app's touch controls would be a nightmare.)
If they get the funds to do it, it would be neat if the intro movie starts out as ASCII and then fades into smooth animated graphics. I am sure there would be lots of people that would be really happy to work on it too. Maybe they could divvy up the scenes to different animators who play DF? Personally, I'd love to see the interpretations of the famous fort tale illustrators (I think there may even be existing versions online somewhere...), since their art style captured DF perfectly. I'm sure it's a fair way down on the 'Big List of Things That Would Be Cool', though :)
EASILY of my top 3 interviews of all time...nah #1. No bias needed even if it is Tarn-fuckin'-Adams should be by default #1 but legit simply b/c both the interviewer and interviewee are top notch up to earth Bros with souls... God bless you guys for doing this and God bless all the great questions and feedback from the audience and commenters! Triple AAA FOURTHOUSAND STARS Keep it up All
I haven’t even played before but adventure mode would be a lot of fun. I have only watched play throughs and haven’t had time to try my self. I’m hoping the graphic change will make it more accessible.
I didn't ask that question because we covered what the performance of the steam version is currently. It felt like it would be asking the same question twice.
I got to thank Ted Adam for his work and dedication to such a thrilling game along the years with kitfox gaming an amazing game dev and publishing company I hope both of them receive more fame and monetary income in the coming years.Keep up the good work guys!
Something that I'm looking forward to is the myth and magic update,the new procedural races are such a cool thing,the only thing that worrys me is that there ethics will only be one set ethic,similar to the animal races,what I hope is that they are randomized between the already existing ethics or better yet they are completely randomized.
I don't think they should change the name of the game, I think they should do what Wikipedia did. Have a say Dwarf Fortress, but keep the blood slaves of Armok part 2 around as a call back.
@@BlindiRL I know what you mean and I'm not trying to be anything other than positive about tarn. I really respect the guy along with his drive and internal motivation to keep going. But imagine I told you about some ethereal code developer that's been working on the same project for nearly 20 years alone. I don't know about you, but my mind goes directly towards a Terry Davis (templeOS) type character. Instead we get a very articulate individual that's actually pretty charismatic and charming. I dunno, I'd just enjoy picking his brain over some drinks in a bar somewhere.
@@BlindiRL I think we got off on the wrong foot - might be due to my keyboard accent, instead of a real one - I never meant what i said in a demeaning way, just an endearing one. Having someone surprise you in a positive way is always a net positive outcome. But I might be reading too much into things.
As someone who is also visually impaired [RP], Dwarf Fortress is actually one of the more accessible games for me as a lot of the "Oomph" factor comes from reading descriptions [be it combat or character interactions]. Some accessibility options for enlarging text or adding some "pop" to certain icons [I have this nasty habit of completely missing spontaneous werebeast transformations if I'm not looking directly at them on-screen]. would go a long way for increasing the mileage I can get out of the game before I'm too blind to play.
I am in the exact same spot as you. I have about 15 years ish before I won't be able to play more so I'll be here advocating for all the accessibility options.
Gonna listening to this whole interview sure I'll learn a lot since I have never played. Btw I like your voice you kinda remind me of that one actor, I donno his name but maybe you know who I'm talking about
43:00 So let me get this straight dwarf fortress which has been a freeware game copied by many people for years isn't open source for fear of people selling it? what? i mean it's still copywritten right? Can't toady just ask(which they must legally comply with as I understand it?) websites to take down illegal uploads or whatever? that does sound like a silly reason.
There is a issue with games that are open source (not DF) getting large portions of code stolen and resold as other games or used to make other games. I think tarn would like to avoid that as an issue that could happen. Going after websites/ sellers is time intensive and requires lawyers. Just a band scene when its your livelihood. That is not an issue for group open source projects.
0:00 Introduction
0:47 Catching up, October & insulation
2:44 Who works on the Steam version? Kitfox & their involvement.
7:35 In-game references to obsolete features
9:33 Accessibility
11:49 Text scaling and the UI in the Steam release
14:44 StA:GoBCII:DF, makovers, continuity and betraying old fans
17:44 Plans for the other modes' UI, keybindings, comparisons
22:23 Plans for the audio
23:54 DF intro ⛏️😱
26:08 Major obstacles in the development?
28:20 Steam Link support?
29:17 Modding & Steam workshop support?
30:10 Moon in the UI and related plans
32:06 Other races, migration, plus-size fashion and workshops
33:43 Representing entity size in the Steam release
35:15 🐈 Scamps' laptop
35:41 Smooth scrolling, rendering and Curses
38:08 Changes to the UI in "classic" DF?
39:55 Challenges of developing the two versions in parallel
41:24 🐈 Expanding the portfolio & plans for future
44:05 Game soundtrack
45:35 Natural disasters, map changes
47:44 Family heirlooms
48:54 Moods & memory promotions and coasters (𝒮𝒶𝓁) 🐈
51:56 Migrants & handling of the dwarves' memory (𝒮𝒶𝓁)
53:01 Mechanics of the desensitisation (𝒮𝒶𝓁)
55:20 Hidden stressors for dwarves, more on moods (𝒮𝒶𝓁) 🐈
1:04:09 Giants, clothing & culture
1:06:33 Expanding the machinery
1:08:10 Noble titles
1:09:18 Favourite artifact from DCSS & roguelikes 🐈
1:12:45 The games toads play
1:15:20 Release date? Progress
1:18:34 Outro
You are a fucking god!
thank you！
Thanks! 11:44 should be 14:44.
@@josephbrandenburg4373 Good catch! Thanks!! :-)
Thank you.
Probably the best dev, and the best colony simulation game ever created.
This^
Giants should demand huge clothes as a tribute from the closest settlement to their lair. You spend some of your wealth and I don't do a rampage. Deal? Deal! Over time I will demand fancier clothing though, so you better keep up!
This is honestly a great idea.
Very cool idea
Neat idea. Extortion would be awesome ...
One of my biggest wants for this game is boats, and lava boats. Imagine being able to build insane boats and floating fortresses in the middle of the ocean.
Dont we all want boats.
@@BlindiRL I've ended up generating so many maps where entire civilizations were just.. cut off from each other completely because they all lived on islands, or separate continents. Think of the trade possibilities alone if you just.. had a civilization that could build a sea port and have boats that trade caravans could ride, or that you could buy passage on in adventure mode.
Yes we need SHIP...so I can start create port and become sea dwarf
@@mr.nobody896 Not just "Ship", but.. "SHIP FORTRESS!!!" or "FORTRESS OF SHIPS!!!". Not just "Port", but "PORT FORTRESS!" Think of the possibilities of having to figure out new ways to defend against goblin sea pirate sieges!
I saw a sea fortress. Once. Just once.
When the winter came, the ice was dug out and supports were created, along with a bridge to the sea fort which could be withdrawn by levers. it took a number of years, but failed and soon sank beneath the waves.
Scamps got his own PC to help Toady to code. 😹
Good kitty.
It should be renamed to Dwarf Fortress: Slaves to Armok, God of Blood.
I laughed at this.
Pffffft
i like how he laughs easily
Dwarf fortress is a funny game :D
Like a real dwarf
1:05 toady you could have the future giants culture hunt other megabeasts and just large animals so they could make cloaks out of roks, boots out of randomly generated titans, helmets out of dragonbone, gloves out of elephants and Giant Elephant hide, etc right? Usei's idea for a basic default stone age type culture is a good one.
Here's an idea in regards to powered workshops maybe increase the speed of crafting at a powered workshop or some items being locked behind powered shops
Not bad tbh.
Maybe some sharpening stone that needs to be powered, and makes swords hurt
"Theres gonna be a bunch of cool crap, its gonna be great"
I will always love how modest and chill Tarn is x'D
Tons of great choice quotes from the interviews. I love it :D
@@BlindiRL Yeah :D
Also on the thing about dwarves still being stressed even when happy, one thing ive noticed is dwarves can be incredibly happy despite not having needs met. Like for example, you can have dwarves that are all to happy to just be a soldier and train and all that all day, totally ignoring everything else (aside from essentials of coarse) and theyll be happy as a clam even as they start to show lots of stress regardless. Im wondering if unmet needs generate unhappy thoughts without showing them :thinking:
I think that one thing that would work well for increasing accessibility for this game would be a "Tutorial Mode" or a "Tutorial Release" that has scripted events and messages that pop up and holds your hand through every task. Almost every game has a tutorial now and players are used to that, rather than just reading a huge, complex wiki. I'm willing to bet that most people introduced to Dwarf Fortress don't even know that a wiki exists. This could be a separate release, or some kind of option at game start that would ideally hold your hand through basic playing, and maybe do some hand holding for more complicated stuff. It wouldn't have to do everything, just serve as an introduction to get new people semi-competent with the UI, goals, objectives, etc..
I would love a tutorial, As of the last interview (June) Tarn and team were undecided and I did not want to rehash to many of the same questions. Hoping we hear something sooner rather then later.
I'm so excited about the eventual release. Cannot contain
All the social and community interaction would be awesome to see integrated (like dwarves seeking other dwarves out, to look after their mental health). Could help reduce tantrum spirals, and keep your dwarves alive. I'd love to see this just from a story experience perspective as well, like Blind mentioned: "Imagining dwarves seeking their friends out, to make sure they're doing OK, is adorable". I agree. A fantastic concept. We need this in DF.
35:15 for cat
Important time stamp.
I am never giving up my numpad. The thought of abolishing it is madness! I also can't think of a rogue-like I've ever wanted to play as a "clicker" over numpad movement.
I agree.
I am playing DF now and listening to this interview, and realised I never noticed the moon before, until now.
The moon just turned to full and a freaking Werelizard just turned up.
I've got this response a lot now after the interview. it's such an important small feature it was one of the first things I noticed.
@@BlindiRL is there anyway to check the moon phase in the current version please?
Im not sure if it was this interview but I seem to remember a discussion about beardless dwarves, just randomly came across this post from 2015 regarding a dwarf who's dream is to rule the world and had no beard, a suggestion in the replies is that they're signs of goblin culture,
I also watch Krugg and thought this interesting
www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=150231.0
Thanks as always for your videos. I enjoy interacting on your twitch.
Thanks for reposting the link for this
interview in your Discord. Tam is an
amazing and singular person. Cheers
BR
Nice ! Thanks BlindiRL im going to add this to my interview playlist ~
Awesome, thank you!
I'm watching a play through at the moment and the guy's world has an undead ogress that has killed 43 people with a blue pigtail sock xD
Yeah I'll be able to listen to every thing... I missed quite a lot of stuff
Same tbh
47:49 yay my question
1:06:40 hey another of my questions
DOUBLE HIT
Love this interview :)
I'm glad! Its some of my best work frankly.
never played this game before but am somehow in love with it already, can't wait for the steam version to come out, hopefully before i am dead.
I lose my shit everytime scamps meows in the background
fantastic
Thank you! Cheers!
Hey you always do such a great job interviewing him.
I think the best approach to the name problem would be to make the official name of the game be “Dwarf Fortress” while the in-game title shows the subtitle “Slaves to Armok: Chapter 2”
I have one of the Steam Link consoles. I use it for Dwarf Fortress regularly and it works quite well. (I use it with wireless keyboard and mouse. I think the app's touch controls would be a nightmare.)
If they get the funds to do it, it would be neat if the intro movie starts out as ASCII and then fades into smooth animated graphics. I am sure there would be lots of people that would be really happy to work on it too. Maybe they could divvy up the scenes to different animators who play DF? Personally, I'd love to see the interpretations of the famous fort tale illustrators (I think there may even be existing versions online somewhere...), since their art style captured DF perfectly.
I'm sure it's a fair way down on the 'Big List of Things That Would Be Cool', though :)
I think this was one of the intro animations I was thinking of: th-cam.com/video/tg1xt26eAdE/w-d-xo.html
Listening to this on the way home
Enjoy it!
Awesome content Blind!
No number pad? What dimension are they living in?
I don't know, either, but it sounds terrifying! They're gonna have to pry my numpad out of my ancient curled fingers, by Armok!!
I have heavily relied on the numpad for years and still do. Who in their right mind would have a keyboard without a numpad?
Laptops tend not to have a numpad
@@KnufWons who actually uses the keyboard on their laptop now, c'mon
EASILY of my top 3 interviews of all time...nah #1. No bias needed even if it is Tarn-fuckin'-Adams should be by default #1 but legit simply b/c both the interviewer and interviewee are top notch up to earth Bros with souls...
God bless you guys for doing this and God bless all the great questions and feedback from the audience and commenters! Triple AAA FOURTHOUSAND STARS
Keep it up All
If Vim-style keybindings make it in, I'd be pleasantly surprised.
Halloween is unequivocally the best season.
I haven’t even played before but adventure mode would be a lot of fun. I have only watched play throughs and haven’t had time to try my self. I’m hoping the graphic change will make it more accessible.
I can't wait till more people can try it.
Kinda disappointed that my question of if there would be any performance improvements to reduce fps death didn't come up. Next time then.
I didn't ask that question because we covered what the performance of the steam version is currently. It felt like it would be asking the same question twice.
Loved this!
Glad you liked it!
I got to thank Ted Adam for his work and dedication to such a thrilling game along the years with kitfox gaming an amazing game dev and publishing company I hope both of them receive more fame and monetary income in the coming years.Keep up the good work guys!
Tarn Adams
Hyperlinks in legends mode would be a godsend
oh wow how did I not notice this!
Thank you for the comments! Hope you enjoyed the interview :D
It would be so interesting if the contractor who was working on his apartment is really into DF and didn't know who he was near.
Something that I'm looking forward to is the myth and magic update,the new procedural races are such a cool thing,the only thing that worrys me is that there ethics will only be one set ethic,similar to the animal races,what I hope is that they are randomized between the already existing ethics or better yet they are completely randomized.
I am so excited for myths!
Yeah me to Time to have FUN as I try to make a infinite beer keg by sacrificing elves through torching.
I hope there is diplomacy,sending caravan and so on that not only about raid and demand tribute...well idk if demand tribute consider as diplomacy.
I don't think they should change the name of the game, I think they should do what Wikipedia did. Have a say Dwarf Fortress, but keep the blood slaves of Armok part 2 around as a call back.
I'm in two minds about it as I like the insanity of the original name but I also think its really bad for new folks searching for it.
Any information if Simon Swerwer is involved in the soundtrack?
At this point I don't think so.
i can't help but be amazed by how socially adept and interesting tarn actually is. He might be a nerd, but he's the nerd one should aspire to be.
The thing that amazes me is that people would think otherwise. He did spend many years teaching people math. And being damn good at it.
@@BlindiRL I know what you mean and I'm not trying to be anything other than positive about tarn. I really respect the guy along with his drive and internal motivation to keep going.
But imagine I told you about some ethereal code developer that's been working on the same project for nearly 20 years alone. I don't know about you, but my mind goes directly towards a Terry Davis (templeOS) type character.
Instead we get a very articulate individual that's actually pretty charismatic and charming.
I dunno, I'd just enjoy picking his brain over some drinks in a bar somewhere.
@@foil666 just remember nobody in the normal world knows what Temple OS is. Lots of people know what dwarf fortress is different situation.
@@BlindiRL I think we got off on the wrong foot - might be due to my keyboard accent, instead of a real one - I never meant what i said in a demeaning way, just an endearing one. Having someone surprise you in a positive way is always a net positive outcome.
But I might be reading too much into things.
@@foil666 you're fine don't worry about it.
As someone who is also visually impaired [RP], Dwarf Fortress is actually one of the more accessible games for me as a lot of the "Oomph" factor comes from reading descriptions [be it combat or character interactions]. Some accessibility options for enlarging text or adding some "pop" to certain icons [I have this nasty habit of completely missing spontaneous werebeast transformations if I'm not looking directly at them on-screen]. would go a long way for increasing the mileage I can get out of the game before I'm too blind to play.
I am in the exact same spot as you. I have about 15 years ish before I won't be able to play more so I'll be here advocating for all the accessibility options.
Can't believe I would be the only person that would miss keystroke only DF.
You wouldn't be the only person.
I wouldn't mind a new DF intro bing y'know a toggleable thing.
It is, there's a config file for the game which makes the intro optional, though it could maybe be clearer that the option is there
Your pfp give me memories and make me sad-
I use one of those 80billion monitors hahahahaha DF in 4k lol
I can't wait to see a super tiny dorf doing super tiny dorf things! (seriously hope we get those fonts)
my question is.... When will it be released
Wait till the end... When its done.
@@BlindiRL I hope I will still be of this world by then x.x
I am kinda curious though if it'll be months or years. Are we expecting a release date some time before 2022 or after 2022?
I love Tarn ;v; good dude....
Glad you liked the interview!
What's this illegal version of tome?
Before it was TOME it was tales of Middle Earth, So to become something they could sell they changed the name to avoid copyright issues.
Gonna listening to this whole interview sure I'll learn a lot since I have never played. Btw I like your voice you kinda remind me of that one actor, I donno his name but maybe you know who I'm talking about
Unfortunately I have no idea who you're talking about. But thank you.
We need to clone this guy so he will have some help cutting acres of individual grass blades one by one
Nice kitty!
Scamps is a treasure!
Wiki-Legends :-)
The best possible upgrade to Legends.
43:00 So let me get this straight dwarf fortress which has been a freeware game copied by many people for years isn't open source for fear of people selling it? what? i mean it's still copywritten right?
Can't toady just ask(which they must legally comply with as I understand it?) websites to take down illegal uploads or whatever? that does sound like a silly reason.
There is a issue with games that are open source (not DF) getting large portions of code stolen and resold as other games or used to make other games. I think tarn would like to avoid that as an issue that could happen. Going after websites/ sellers is time intensive and requires lawyers. Just a band scene when its your livelihood. That is not an issue for group open source projects.
@@BlindiRL Ah, I missed the ''as other games'' part that is an issue.
dwarfs have no empathy? xD 1:02:15
what has tarn adams done for the black community lately