Original Winchester 1886 and Pedersoli 1886/71 lever action comparison
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The original rifle was manufactured in 1899, and the Pedersoli repro is 2010 novelty. Both are 45/70 caliber. - วิทยาศาสตร์และเทคโนโลยี
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Great in-depth video. Especially appreciated the trip down the bore. Even if the Winchester doesn't have many "special order" features, I hope you appreciate what a fantastic piece you have there! Perfect soundtrack choice as well.
Excellent presentation of two fine rifles,I would much rather have an original Winchester but I'm glad the Italians have stepped up to the plate and are making them available again at a fraction of the cost of the real thing,I have several Italian clones of Colts and Winchesters and have been very pleased with all of them.
Dennis Taylor n
Exceptional presentation. I sincerely admire your love for these legendary rifles..
I have two 1886 Winchesters, one a reproduction by Browning, and the second, a Winchester recent production. Both have 26in octagon barrels in .45-70 caliber and are made by Miroku. of Japan. I love the heavy weight of the rifles which serve to dampen felt recoil from stout loads.
Also Miroku made 1886 in .45-90. You can fire jacketed .45-70 in a .45-90 no prob. Also .45-90 runs 200 fps+ higher with the same bullet weights.
@@lifted_above, I also have the Miroku ‘86 in 45-90, a take down version. The magazine didn’t quite hold 8 rounds until I snipped a couple of coils off the magazine spring.
@@davidgardner863 Sounds like a lot of fun.
After sighting in at 60 feet, I could easily cover 5 shots with a nickel th-cam.com/users/postUgkxQt2uORDRfFOVSrO4idv4B90ThT6EOnEL ! Truly a pleasure to shoot! Scope was easy to adjust for eye relief. Only problem the varmints must have seen it delivered lol!Update: So impressed with shot groups at 30 yards I purchased a Hammers 3×9 with adjustable Objective scope! Now a true nail driver!
Very nice. I have a marlin 1895 in 45-70, but I would love to have a beautiful Winchester to go with it.
I have an original 50-110 carbine and a premium Pedersoli 1886/71.
The Pedersoli is much more similar to a model 71 than to a 1886.
It even has the cuts on the bolt for the legendary Lyman 98A , and Pedersoli was wise enough to make a reproduction.
I find the Pedersoli much better than the modern 1886 with that awful tang safety.
Great videos, capandball! If you ever get the chance I cannot recommend highly enough that you get your hands on one of the Browning 1886 reproductions from the late 1980's. Truly great and well engineered rifles! Keep up the great work!
Great Video for a Great firearm! Very educational and masterfully done! Thanks Much!
Nice review of comparing the two rifles. 45-70 is my top favorite caliber I own a Marlin 1895 Cowboy that I happen to like really well.
Excellent work
Thanks for another great video
Beautiful rifles! Thanks for sharing
Very nice! I look forward to seeing part 2. I'm saving up to buy a Winchester 1886 (either original, new production, or the Pedersoli reproduction) so I am very interested to see these videos.
Great rifles, great music,.... 🎶🎵👍🏼
Beautiful rifles
Beautiful !
theses are my two favorites by no dought even one has my birthday on it wow beutifulll!!!!!
Is there that much difference, shooting, quality, performance between the Miruko Japanese 1886 Winchester 45-70 octangon barrel and the Pedersoli Italian, made sporting model 1886 octangon barrel.
Any information about these two would be greatly appreciated..thanks
Excellent background music!
Great job describing a great rifle.
Enjoyed presentation.
Cool, thanks!
These style of guns are so durable that the 375 from Ruger is basically built the same except its a one shot at a time the locking lugs and everything is the same. Very very strong
Where did you get that old shooter?
Nice guns!
great music, too. :)
just friggin awesome! shakyjake out!
I really like the quality and craftsmanship that goes into the 86 Pedersoli, but the Pedersoli is far too different from the original for me to ever buy. I wish they did a better job at reverse engineering it.
My grandfathers was the take down model my uncle has it I have never seen it..... thanks
I prefer the longer tube magazine on the original than the shorter reproduction. Why do they make it so short?
***** Might also have to do with magazine laws/restrictions in some countries and even some states in the US. Just an idea, not totally sure... Id also agree with the cost saving measure, they are a business after all ;)
Diktator Alexander Originals were also available with half and two thirds length magazines as well as many other options like take down models and fancy grade models.I collect and develop loads for old Winchesters.
If you have a model 1886 with a 26'' octagonal barrel its going to be very heavy and if you have a full length mag tube full of 45-70 rounds its going to be very very heavy.For looks I prefer the oct.barrel with full length mag tube but for a gun used for hunting the Pedersoli is much more sensible.
Diktator Alexander and
Because it is a copy of a Winchester 1871 which came with a round barrel and half magazine
Both are gorgeous...
5:23 Watch "Winchester 73" with James Stewart.
do you guys know meaning of 1886/71 ? what i get is model 1886 and improvisation in 1971
Not quite. The Winchester Model 71 was based on the original 1886 Lightweight Deluxe rifle with a more modern look. It was introduced in the 1930s to add a bit of polish to Winchester lineup, and is arguably the pinnacle of large-frame Winchester lever action rifles. The Pedersoli 1886/71 is their rendition of the Model 71.
How does Pedersoli compare with Uberti? Or even Pietta?
No comparison uberty is junk
I have a pedersoli in 4570 sharps excelent gun
Can the pedersoli 86/71 withstand smokeless powder rounds??
+Citizen Daologist It was meant for smokeless, but you can shoot black powder with them.
+Catt Thanks. I'm thinking about buying one.
Me too :3
I’m Partial To The Original 1886 Winchester as Designed By John Browning 😀😊
I'm guessing the reduced capacity magazine has something to do with the European markets. It's a shame, would look wonderful with a full length mag.
Browning BLR, Savage Model 99 and Winchester model 1895 all have a stronger action than the Winchester 1886.
very nice vid thanks
What is the difference between the 1886 and the 1894?
94 is a much smaller rifle , firing much smaller rounds. Although it has the same action as the 86.
@@northernwoodsman same action as the 92 not as the 94
Perhaps I am an odd ball, originally, I preferred a pistol grip on my lever rifles. I think that was because I was more familiar with a pistol grip. But after purchasing a straight stock lever gun, and having the chance to get familiar with the straight stock, I actually prefer it. I prefer the standard loop as well. Thanks for the great video.
1:40 ... that was a person screaming
Lmao
0:38 I think that the Browning BLR with it's rotating bolt is stronger.
It is. But in the Model '86's defense, I think it was the strongest lever action repeater until 1895 when the stronger Savage 1895 and Winchester 1895 came out.
YTRulesFromNM I agree with you brother that the 86 is stronger
The Stranger
what I found out is to blr and the 86 operate around the same PSI 50 to 52000. Both are brother companies that are made in Japan. I have the Winchester 1886 and every time I call I can always here Browning products through the messaging while I'm waiting for a Winchester representative if I'm not mistaken I think that you got one representative for both LOL both are good companies I wouldn't doubt that they share ideas as well.
The BLR is a fantastic rifle, but handles totally different to many old style heavy barreled rifles. I don't really worry about action strength in a modern made rifle (even though it is important) because the manufactures design them appropriately for their caliber. This might be a concern if you have some crazy hot hand loads in mind.
Novelty isnt the word I would use
M71 came out in the 30s
col gun!!:):)!
Winchester model 1963
I work alot on these old guns (1886 1887 1890 1893) and i can tell u for sure i love to see a comparisin with a repro 1886 vs a original 1886 with each time the loadi is cranked up a bit and i wonder what breaks first....
Take a case and load it with fast burning powder and each time crank up the load with 1 or 2 grain and keep using the same bullet,there will be a time something will break...
I am 100% sure a chinese 1887 clone breaks sooner then a original thats in good condition.......And i am pretty sure the steel used in original 1886s was the best of its time and it will handle a normal smokeless load without a problem,just a as a original 1893 is a stronger gun then a chinese copie of a 1897...............And for all the people who start bla bla i work on these guns i am not a person who reads bla bla on the internet and spreads its like its real,i compared these guns with modern guns and i can tell u John Browning guns are made 3x overkil for the purpose they serve.
The 1893/97 is the strongest shotgun action for a repeater i know,there is and no lever gun as strong as a 86 (based on the receiver/locking block thickness vs its task) maybe that later lever gun with the turning bolt that works like a winchester 1200/1300 is stronger,but the receiver of a original 1886 can handle any modern 45-70 smokeless load.
So in other words, there isn't much the same. It's not much of a repro. The barrel with it's covered sight, and taper, along with the shorter mag, and polish make it look like a European gun. It may be a nice rifle. But it's a poor copy.
Ya no es el mismo rifle ni siquiera.la copia es mas lindo el modelo original .