I've paired Flair58 with Varia VS3 and I have to say, I'm getting such amazing shots! Pretty good setup for not that much money One thing: the included basket is a bit small - I believe it depends on the roast of your coffee but max I could fit there is about 16g Apart form this - an amazing machine! Well done!
Just received my Flair 58+. It is really enjoyable pulling shots with it. The workflow and the cleaning are so much easier compared to the Flair Pro 2 I used to have. The plus model has some improvement/refinement compared the 58/58x models. Love it!
The upgraded flair 58 sounds just like I need it now. I've had the Neo for 2 years, upgraded it with pressure valve and real espresso basket, but I feel I've outgrown the little one. I'm living in Germany and I'm looking for buying the new flair 58 here in your partner shop. Do they already start selling the new generation in Europe or is it only u.s. right now?
I'm interested in exploring longer shots, specifically Scott Rao's Allongé that calls for 1:4 - 1:5 ratios. Would those profiles be possible given the liquid capacity of the chamber? Curios what is the longer ratios you at Flair were able to experiment with? Thanks!
Im new to this coffee setup, so if i buy this stuff, and i dont want to use that electronic "stuff" , do i just need to boil my water until i get the desired temprature, and just pour that boiled water into the head just like in the video and push the lever down?
Any infos on if the Flair Pro is getting updated where the rubber on the handle is removed? Or if the Classic will be abit more reasonably priced in Europe?
2023 models with single slot plunger do not require you to reposition and therefore do not come with a key. If you have a two slot plunger, reach out to your reseller to get a key
@@FlairEspresso thanks for your reply I really confused what grind size should I use? I mean how to calibrate the grinder and what level is good to use for flair 58
Quite interested in the Flair 58, though I recall some reviews calling into question the quality of the wood accents. I know the 58+ has walnut, which certainly is a step up, but have the 58 and 58x wooden accents been updated following the prior reviews?
Pretty bothered that the portafilter funnel (+$24) isn't included by default when it's pretty clearly an integral part of the everyday use of the machine so you don't get grounds everywhere. It's just being used as a cash grab by Flair by not including it by default. Even the flair pro 2 has a basket funnel included by default. Disappointed in their apple mentality/cash grab approach.
Not everyone uses one, lots of people like me use the Niche Zero grinder which has a dosing cup to transfer grounds directly into the portafilter, no funnel needed
No Thank you i wouldnt wanna spend 600 dollars over a damn manual machine where withe same amount of money i can get a fully automatic espresso machine. Ill just get the 325 dollar one.
You have to spend multiple thousands of dollars to get a machine that can pull shots of similar quality with pressure profiling....Lelit Bianca for example.
only if you dont like making coffee. the difference is like getting a nice saucepan vs an instant pot. if you dont want to cook, you can just throw everything in the instant pot and eat whatever comes out, not bad and i do it all the time. but in a restaurant, no one is going to use instant pot for everything. they need the control of the standalone tool. the benefit of manual is control of flow, pressure, everything at the tip of your finger. and the only downside so far was the preheating, which this 58x helps mitigate.
I've paired Flair58 with Varia VS3 and I have to say, I'm getting such amazing shots! Pretty good setup for not that much money
One thing: the included basket is a bit small - I believe it depends on the roast of your coffee but max I could fit there is about 16g
Apart form this - an amazing machine! Well done!
Mine arrives tomorrow. Very excited to experience the difference from my breville
Enjoying my 58! Thoughtful upgrades!
Just received my Flair 58+. It is really enjoyable pulling shots with it. The workflow and the cleaning are so much easier compared to the Flair Pro 2 I used to have. The plus model has some improvement/refinement compared the 58/58x models. Love it!
Mine arrives on Wednesday. I'm already thinking about accessories. LOL
@@RichSimpkins that is awesome! what accesorries are you looking at ?
Loved the narrator’s voice and energy
Great guide! Now I want to sell my old flair 58 to get the new one lol
The upgraded flair 58 sounds just like I need it now. I've had the Neo for 2 years, upgraded it with pressure valve and real espresso basket, but I feel I've outgrown the little one.
I'm living in Germany and I'm looking for buying the new flair 58 here in your partner shop. Do they already start selling the new generation in Europe or is it only u.s. right now?
It's immediately available to all distributors, please inquire with your local
Hi I just bought the flair 58+, does this guide work for 58+ too? Thank you
I'm interested in exploring longer shots, specifically Scott Rao's Allongé that calls for 1:4 - 1:5 ratios. Would those profiles be possible given the liquid capacity of the chamber? Curios what is the longer ratios you at Flair were able to experiment with? Thanks!
wow nice :D i wanna one
I hope we get a higher volume brew chamber some day so that we can do longer ratio pulls. I mean long too, like 1:6.
All comes with naked portafilter?
is a white 58 plus coming soon? :)
Will you be selling the new valve plunger for people who want to uograde
Not for at least 6-12 mo from now
Im new to this coffee setup, so if i buy this stuff, and i dont want to use that electronic "stuff" , do i just need to boil my water until i get the desired temprature, and just pour that boiled water into the head just like in the video and push the lever down?
what are the o-rings made of?
Can i use flair 58 for sharing? Or is it meant for personal?
Any infos on if the Flair Pro is getting updated where the rubber on the handle is removed?
Or if the Classic will be abit more reasonably priced in Europe?
The original pro didn’t have rubber if you can find a used one
Mine didn’t come with the Plunger Key. How can I adjust the plunger to put at 90 degrees position?
2023 models with single slot plunger do not require you to reposition and therefore do not come with a key. If you have a two slot plunger, reach out to your reseller to get a key
Just now I received mine but I couldn't get spersso. The water comes out without any pressure
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@@FlairEspresso thanks for your reply
I really confused what grind size should I use? I mean how to calibrate the grinder and what level is good to use for flair 58
@@k1musicmovies all depends on your grinder and how fine it will grinder will go and the type/quality of your bean.
Quite interested in the Flair 58, though I recall some reviews calling into question the quality of the wood accents. I know the 58+ has walnut, which certainly is a step up, but have the 58 and 58x wooden accents been updated following the prior reviews?
My pressure measure not working :(
Puck puck pass
Pp?
Pretty bothered that the portafilter funnel (+$24) isn't included by default when it's pretty clearly an integral part of the everyday use of the machine so you don't get grounds everywhere. It's just being used as a cash grab by Flair by not including it by default. Even the flair pro 2 has a basket funnel included by default. Disappointed in their apple mentality/cash grab approach.
Not everyone uses one, lots of people like me use the Niche Zero grinder which has a dosing cup to transfer grounds directly into the portafilter, no funnel needed
Sour espresso all shot , I don’t like it.
No Thank you i wouldnt wanna spend 600 dollars over a damn manual machine where withe same amount of money i can get a fully automatic espresso machine. Ill just get the 325 dollar one.
You have to spend multiple thousands of dollars to get a machine that can pull shots of similar quality with pressure profiling....Lelit Bianca for example.
only if you dont like making coffee. the difference is like getting a nice saucepan vs an instant pot. if you dont want to cook, you can just throw everything in the instant pot and eat whatever comes out, not bad and i do it all the time. but in a restaurant, no one is going to use instant pot for everything. they need the control of the standalone tool. the benefit of manual is control of flow, pressure, everything at the tip of your finger. and the only downside so far was the preheating, which this 58x helps mitigate.