Classic Dr Eggman is GREAT - Here's Why (A Character Analysis of Classic Dr Eggman / Robotnik)
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Let me tell you why "Classic Eggman" and "Greatness" are essentially the same words! As Sonic the Hedgehog fans, we can argue back and forward about Dr Robotnik or Doctor Eggman, Adventure era vs Dark era, how good or bad the meta era depiction is! But I think to understand how far Eggman has come as a character, we need to go back to the beginning!
Shadow the Hedgehog, Perfect Chaos, Black Doom, Perfect Gaia? A lot of bad guys have come and gone in the series, but our beloved mad doctor has been with us from the very start! SatAM, The Adventures of Sonic the Hedgehog, Sonic 1, Sonic CD, Sonic 2, SOnic 3 & Knuckles? Let's discuss them all, with a special emphasis on this rotund, emerald obsessed genius!
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The reason why Eggman works so well comically, is he is a serious threat. This is a man that would make world leaders tremble with an army of ladybug unicycles and slinky bunnies.
I think that the switch from Robotnik to Eggman is when he really started to lose his mind and become a crazy scientist, switching his obsession on not just conquering the world but also destroying Sonic.
If we look at their interactions in Generations (even though there aren't that many), we can see that Robotnik seems more grounded in reality, often annoyed by Eggman's antics. He even says "Wow, am I really gonna get that crazy ?"
So to me he was still sorta sane back then, and when he became Eggman, that's when he lost the little sanity he had left.
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@@blazing8196 Well not anymore. Frontiers confirmed that it's Sonic who gave him the moniker Eggman, and he adopted it as his own name. But in Adventure he still goes by Robotnik and switches to Eggman in Adventure 2. So even though in japanese he always was Eggman, the lore has changed.
@@blazing8196 I mean maybe but maybe Sonic didn't give him the name immediatly. Since they acknowledge the lore from outside Japan, it's possible. But I don't have the definitive answer and I don't claim to have it, that's just how I see it.
@@blazing8196 Okay
How's that even possible that both Gerald and Eggman have insanities?
Gotta love Dr.Eggman probably one of the most reconizable villians in all of gaming
Eggman's obsession with being loud and proud with his designs and plans throughout the years is one of my favourite aspects of his character. If and when Eggman is hatching a world-dominating scheme, he will make sure that you KNOW it is him you're being conquered by. He likes to announce his presence, he likes to plaster his face on everything he makes, he turned Sonic's insulting nickname into a title that he gave the world reason to fear and respect.
Eggman's bombasticness really sets him apart from his contemporaries, I feel, I will always appreciate that about him. He doesn't want nor need to hide, because he has every confidence that anyone who walks into that cave with his face plastered onto it won't be walking back out.
Good video, Mark. Yet another one for me to enjoy again and again as I get stuff done.
Classic Eggman's Death Egg would make Palpatine and Vader lose their minds! Lol!
By God was he *delightful.*
Yeah, for a rip off, it definitely exceeded the Death Star I’m every way!
@@AceCardGaming The big question: did it have a giant beam weapon? We don't actually know what its weaponry was, right?
@@syweb2 In the Fleetway Sonic Comic it had a Beam weapon. It’s a shame it never had an opportunity to do much in the games though.
One thing I like about Eggman/Robotnik in the Mega Drive games is the gradual subversion in expectations. Looking at his design, you'd be given the impression he's goofy and not very threatening, and that's true in Sonic 1. But then you have Sonic 2, which is the Death Egg's introduction, and he's beginning to come off as a threat with a sense of serious tension. Lastly, he comes really close to successfully executing his plans in Sonic 3, thus establishing him as a genius who has the potential to rule the world, perhaps even the entire galaxy. It's simple characterisation in a simple plot, I know, it's just neat that his character has a sense of continuity and rising stakes throughout the 16-bit trio, and one that's a basic example of "looks aren't everything".
I think Sonic CD is the most dark version of Classic Eggman
@@whocaresaboutthename6850 can't exactly be the darkest when all of his machines and mechs are easy to beat and not intimidating in the slightest lol
@Gyrokun didn't get a shot of metallic madness atmosphere 💀
Meta era aside, game!Eggman has always reminded me of the Joker, at times silly but always incredibly dangerous. Each cartoon focusing on a specific side of the mad doctor. Honestly I think the Death Egg sums him up perfectly, a shout out to Star Wars but Eggman wants to make sure you know Dr. Ivo Robotnik is the best, so not only does he plaster his face on it, (which might also be a way to honor his beloved grandfather) he makes sure the space station outshines the original completely by having his version of it's ultimate weapon, the FInal Egg Blaster, be capable of destroying entire star systems. (as seen in Sonic Battle)
I actually like how menacing classic robotnik was with that blank stare and that damn smile, he look someone that actually poses a genuine threat
Love my 90’s Dr Robotnik
One of his funniest moments is in Mania after you defeat him in Titanic Monarch zone. He doesn’t bother to escape and just throws a temper tantrum instead.
Classic eggman is legend. Full of determination, never gives up.
A personal favorite showcase of his narcissism for me was Sonic CD. In a lot of the Bad Futures, you see the landscape destroyed, along with all of Eggman's machinery itself, ironically enough. However, his own face and image are still kept alive and present, notably in Stardust Speedway's large Eggman-shaped dome and Wacky Workbench's hidden statue. To go to the extent of desecrating the environment at the risk of it and his own machines simply to keep his own image alive is an idea I adore and showcases the absolute extent of his ego.
Classic Eggman, Modern Eggman... To things were so much simpler when they were seen as one in the same 🙄
More so when you consider that in (the Japanese script) of Adventure when he makes his appearance in the Egg Hornet, he remarks that he's been quiet for a while but he's back to cause trouble, making quite obvious that these are the same characters from the 16-bit games and no other worlds or dimensions - depending on your region - that puts them firmly as two different characters we have now.
I consider them the same character. Gens explanation for classic characters in the modern timeline made sense, Forces just borked it.
@@AceCardGaming I was going to say as well about Eggman being supposedly faster than Sonic, I can remember seeing someone suggesting a theory that the blue hedgehog when standing against the Doctor doesn't wish to cause him harm, he only means to stop him. Which kinda makes sense considering I don't think I've ever seen Sonic looking at physically putting his hands on Eggman in the games... besides maybe jumping and hitting the exposed part of his craft in boss fights, but beyond that, in actual story cutscenes, its not something I can remember see happening.
@@AceCardGaming I am never a fan of Flynn’s writing anyway; he shows dishonor to the whole franchise.
Excellent analysis as always! I'd love to see a more serious side to Robotnik in Frontiers, SatAM just nailed it!
he was no fool all along
He's a splendid villain who was even portrayed as a threat by aosth.If you turn Agent Stone into a canonical character and send various minions to Sonic along with him in triple trouble or go back to the style direction, he will always be a threat. i think i can draw
I may not be a Jim Carry fan (the Grinch movie didn't help!), but he did play a really impressive Eggman.
Aww, I grew up with that The Grinch! Had some amazing lines in it! But yeah, Jim did such a great job that I forgot he isn't the normal actor LOL
0:47 - Oh naw 💀
I love seeing eggman taking the master emerald in sonic 3 the game!
Like the analysis, I would like to see this Eggman get more love.
Considering how little they’ve shown of him for Frontiers, I’m hoping they have something special planned!
@@AceCardGaming I think this is one time Eggman should be the one who needs to be saved in Frontiers.
5:59 actually, no, the original game is not the source of him realizing that ruling everything with his empire is difficult.
In fact, the first game isn't when they first met at all, they actually had battled each other before and eggman always looses against sonic, bit the first game is when he actually uses the animals inside the robots for the first time. This is mostly stated in the Japan manual.
So yeah, eggman didn't first met sonic at all in the 1st game, this game is just another recent battle they had, that's all.
Sonic 1 for the Genesis has prequels like Sonic 1 for the Master System , Tails' Adventures and the Arcade game SegaSonic bros. which was the first time Mighty the Armadillo and Ray the Flying Squirrel appeared .
I love classic eggman, sonic origins showed how much of a child he is which he funny. His laughs in cd and Mania are eeire too.
Jem is not acting like Eggman, he is just doing whatever he wants.
SatAM Robotnik is the GOAT!!!
YEAH he is!!!
@@AceCardGamingIT WARMS THE COGS OF MY METALLIC HEART.
I’m glad that even though these characters are meant to show nature vs the machines, it doesn’t depict machines as evil cause they still Tails. It’s only the misuse of it
10:23 doesn't he have a special pair of shoes for that
We need an animated solo eggman/robotnik tv series STAT
I’d watch that!
The best part is, it could literally go in any direction it wanted to go
Another great analysis video and I agree about how Eggman, no matter how silly he may look is a truly dangerous villain, I mean, take a look at his IDW self where he's bumbling but still a truly dangerous villain as evidenced by how this Eggman did one of his heinous actions yet in the franchise: creating and using the Metal Virus, where he managed to cause more mental and emotional pain to Sonic and his friends then he ever tries to physically hurt them in combat. Plus it wouldn't hurt if you did analysis videos of not only other incarnations of Eggman, but also of all the characters.
Glad you enjoyed it! I’ve covered a lot of characters so far if you look back through my videos but there’s also a lot more on the way! 🙂
@@AceCardGaming yeah, I've seen your other analysis videos and the amazing talks about how there's more to Sonic and his friends then their recent flanderizations in the meta era.
@@AceCardGaming while Classic Eggman can come off as goofy, I thought AoStH Robotnik best encapsulates the subtlety of Robotnik looking goofy on the outside and threatening on the inside, whilst SatAM Robotnik comes off as superior on the outside but inferior on the inside. Yes, SatAM Robotnik took over a kingdom, but they ended the show with not just a cliffhanger, but with Robotnik being defeated amongst the aftermath. AoStH Robotnik is proud of being evil and is not afraid to tell off anyone who stands against him; even goes so far as to make a bold claim (near the end of “Must’ve Been a Beautiful Baby”) that he conquered most of the planet, just by showing off his trophy collection like a public flasher.
AoStH Robotnik even went so far as to make murder attempts. For example, in "Robotnikland", Robotnik had trapped Sonic and his friends inside a giant cake, and had 10-ft sticks of dynamite as candles. Near the end of the "Quest for the Chaos Emeralds" saga, Robotnik had tied Sonic and Tails to their time traveling skateboard, and threw them so hard and so far, that they end up at the Beginning of the Universe, where they almost got killed by the Big Bang. The final episode, "Hero of the Year" (appropriately a clipshow), had Sonic stuck in a bathosphere to let him suffer from lack of oxygen, and for good measure, Robotnik sank a giant ship that the bathosphere was connected to, the same ship that has Sonic's friends on it. So yes, I saw AoStH Robotnik as a much *better* representation of in-Game Eggman in terms of personality, because even petulant childishness can be effective in a villain, only if the villain's compacity for violence greatly contrasts his immature behavior.
Classic Eggman my beloved
My favorite Eggman aside from Jim Carrey is Sonic X where it shows him at his worst
I hope I'm not too late to comment on your video ace and I love classic eggman in the games and he's the best villain ever! ❤😍👍
It’s never too late to comment Mayra, thanks for sharing! 😁
The favorite trait of his character is his craziness and anger tantrums.
I absolutely prefer SatAM's Buttnik over EVERY OTHER iteration of the Doctor 😅 But man, the silly iteration(s) seriously make me think he's got a severe case of DID or something... Hmm, imagine if that were canon 🤔
Same here lol
@@Bls-of1ld Hehe 😁
eggman literally went from "owning" an island, to to inslaving an entire solar system
I always thought Robotnik was never actually faster than Sonic, but rather Sonic was just incredibly exhausted.
I think it was just a goof by the devs to be honest! 😅 Couldn’t have you catching him before the final showdown now could they?
You know, This "Dr. Eggman" Guy sure looks like that plumber from the 80s.
Jokes aside, I always liked a mix with the silly and menacing to Robotnik.
First off I mean look at him, He is shaped like an Egg, Builds a lot of Egg themed Robots, and his plan is to bulid "Robotnik/Eggman Land" What a silly scheme. Even how he is written in the JP manuel have lines like ""You see, Sonic?! This time it's different. I've turned all the animals on the island into robots."
"They'll all do what I tell them to. In other words, the whole island is your enemy. Hahahahaha... cough cough. This time, the whole world will be mine." And im fine with a silly villain however the menacing side also works for him. The Early Sonic game had a "Nature vs Machine" Theme to them. And Robotniks goal is to make a world full with machines he does not give a crap about nature. And Sonic who represent what good in the world does not like Putting animals into Robots, So he goes to stop him because in his mind, Capturing animals to power up Robots "That no good". While his name in Japan is "Eggman" just because he has an silly name does not mean he cant be Menacing. This man thinks he is the best (You could also argue that he is the EGGMAN!" And looking for rocks, Tricking Echidnas, Finding anicent creatures, Making Robots, are ways to conquer this planet. And as we have seen in a lot of Sonic games like the Death egg from Sonic 3 or the Bad futures of Sonic CD, This is not a funny place for babys, this is what he can do Sonics world. While a lot of Sonic fans like to shit on Sonic Colors just because it has a bad story, I do wonder what will happen if Eggman was using this mind control thing to the planet. But again Sonic needs to stop Fat man. So uh Robotnik can be silly and evil. The end, Also i dont agree with Movie Robotnik act like "Dr. Eggman" from the games, He is just Jim carry and im very suprised that many many people have no problem with this even do he is completly out of Character in this movie. Everyone shit on 2010 Eggman because he is too silly but i would argue that this is a more faithfull version of the Doctor. Movie Robotnik is just Jim Carry and why does no one say something about it. But you know one day we hated the serious storys then we began to love the silly storys and then we began to love the serious storys and we hated the silly ones. This fanbase is weird, Do fun fact, Robotnik over in Europe and North america they wanted to make him more serious and meanicing. Look at his American design he does not look like a funny man he is scary. And the closes we ever got to "Normal Eggman" Was in Aosth. Fun fact Tails called him Eggman in Aosth, It was only one time but hey that cool. And while i do love Aosth and Satam versions of the characther. I will always perfer Game Eggman. Also i know this is very unrelated but Scratch & Grounder(s) theme in Aosth is amazing. Good video do i do have to question this, Why make a video about Classic Eggman when Modern Eggman is basically just the same character. Classic Eggman is still Dr. Eggman. The way he acts in SA1 is the same way he acts in Sonic 3. You are talking about Robotnik at the end of the day. Just a weird decesion.
Some call him eggman some call him Robotnik and those are great but i call him by his first name Julian yep his full name is
Julian Ivo Robotnik
And the classic version is my favorite version I've always invisioned him with the aosth voice I mean that outfit is just great hes got the best cape I've ever seen
The reason why they name egg man into robotnik , because that tells us that he was good at building machine
Dr. Ivo "Eggman" Robotnik [Status:ACTIVE]
Dr. Robotnik, or Dr. Eggman if you prefer, is a much more friendly seeming villain, but don't let that fool you. He is very much a force to be reckoned with, and very much a bad guy. We only don't interfere with him because he is supposed to exist.
well it's true that with each classic game they rose the stakes
in mania
he gets a powerful ruby that allows him to manipulate time and space, and uses it to power his BIggest robot yet, and when one of his creation tries to get it for itself, he goes after it to get it back
and in superstars: (spoilers)
He is looking for a god of destruction to use it as a mere weapon, as well as making sure sonic is dead whenever he sees him, there are no in-games cutscenes involving him asside from a few in egg fortress, where he uses a time reversing machine to repair his space station and then it's final mech, and doesn't care that said station is litterally falling appart while fighting sonic, HE WANTS HIM COMPLETELY OBLITERATED and nothing will change his minds
Se que este es un canal en inglés, pero siento que Eggman, al menos para mí, no se pueda verlo como un imperio militar pero si uno comercial. Ya que los dueños de grandes empresas (o al menos en su mayoría) son psicópatas que ven solo lo que les conviene y los haga quedar bien parados.
3:05 I think this one is more game accurate
The best Eggman is obviously Alfred Coleman.
5:55 that wasn't there first encounter heck I'm pretty he started using animals as organic batteries to spite Sonic
0:48 Please do not put in taking his name in vain!
I first discovered Sonic through Mario and sonic at the Olympic Games and since yoshi what is the character in Mario Layed eggs made me wonder who Dr. Eggman one who’s association with eggs Who is I’ve no idea he was evil because he didn’t look like A villain tell me
Im here cause i gotten back to playing sonic origins and the excitement for generations being remastered 🥹💖
There are 2 reasons why Robotnik could outrun Sonic in 16-bit Sonic 2 .
1- Sonic got extra exhausted after defeating and destroying Silver Sonic mark 2 .
2- Robotnik used the Power Shoes power-up to run faster because the power-ups in Sonic games are contained in monitors so that means Robotnik built the monitors for his Badniks to use .
Funny you bring up reason 2; in AoStH’s “Full Tilt Tails” Robotnik created a special gum, he calls it “Speediment Gum”, as a means to have anyone who possesses it to get speed, once it’s chewed, that is.
Is Classic Robotnik Or Classic Eggman Whatever You Want To Call Him Is Cute And Nice I Think He’s Nice And I Like Him Better Then The Modern Dr Eggman In My Decision
1:13 *p#ss
Classic "Dr. Eggman"
Nononono, if it's Classic, his name is Robotnik. No one in the 90's called him Eggman, I know Sega gets this wrong, but the fans do too?
Nope. But if you call him Robotnik the TH-cam algorithm gets confused because so few people search that term compared to Eggman. I’d call him Robotnik now if I could! 😅
Also, fairly sure he’s always been Eggman in Japan. 😉
Ah, the algorithm has ruined fun again. I apologize for giving the business then, I didn't know that.@@AceCardGaming
And yeah he's always been Eggman in Japan, but... that doesn't mean it's a good name, it might sound good there... but to my ears that know english as a first language, Eggman sounds like he should be teaching me how to have a healthy breakfast with his sidekick Bacon Woman, not a robot-making supervillain.
@@1Hol1Tiger Robotnik's just as silly. Sure, it may sound menacing, but think about it. Think of a villain, and their main powers. For example, a villain with laser powers. Now call them Lasernik. It sounds silly because it's a name you could make up on the fly, I called a badnik in SRB2 "Bombbro" one time.
Although the name Eggman has always been used in sillier versions, but Robotnik in more serious ones, so maybe that's why that preconception is there. For example, AOSTH Robotnik is funny as hell, that's why it doesn't strike fear into you.
А ещё у классического Айво очень милый дизайн/ Also classic Ivo has a very cute design
Das ist rafel