I thought his mom meant he shouldn’t try to die so hard because it will happen eventually anyway. It was, in my opinion, one of the kindest and most honest things she has said during this entire show
I was going to comment the same, I also think she meant "take your time, there's no need to rush" and coming from her, who hasn't got the time was what made it so meaningful.
Yeah same, I thought it was an it’s ok, you don’t have to strive to be any kind of way or try so hard to be something you’re not kind of sentiment, because we’re all going to die Rather than we’re all going to die as the focus and having the not having to try so hard be related specifically to staying alive
exactly. I was quite shocked at this interpretation, she definitely didn't tell him to die and loved him despite her awful homophobia. there's an added layer of context here that should be emphasized when it comes to the attitude towards suicide in the korean society. firstly, it is still considered a sin to try take your own life since in the minds of religious zealots like her it's the ultimate violation of 'god's will' to try preemptively exit the mortal realm and historically it was considered a mortal sin which stopped the person from ascending to heaven. secondly, the korean society is driven by confucian collectivism so any behavior outside of the very narrow norm is considered as a slight towards the family or even society as a whole. so whether it's being gay or trying to take one's own life it is perceived as a failiure of the family rather than being seen as 'the flaw of an individual' as it is by western homophobes. therefore on the one hand she's doubly ashamed of him because of these bigoted values instilled in her but at the same time I feel like she finally realized that homosexuality is innate and unchangeable and that her homophobic actions and betrayal was partially the reason for him being driven to such self-destruction. if she was my mother I could never forgive her, however I do think the shock of seeing her son potentially on his deathbed solidified that her love for him is greater than her disdain for his sexuality. that's why after that she no longer pesters him with her expectations of how she imagined his life and even if she can't entirely accept his sexuality she seems to at least make peace with it. it's as if she was saying 'live how you need to live then but please just live'.
the way i interpreted what his mom said while he was in the hospital bed is that i thought he tried to unalive himself during the scene where he was drinking a lot of pills (or so i thought was the scene) but he was saved so his mom said that. i didnt interpreted it as she is being mean but on the contrary, she was encouring him to live and he doesnt need to hurry with ending his life.
That’s exactly how I interpreted it. I didn’t feel his mom was telling him to die, I actually felt she was telling him there was still so much for him to experience and enjoy in life and that he should live to the fullest until it was actually his time to die (of old age).
yeah this scene and the fact that she kept the polaroid of goyoung and youngsoo felt hopeful to me like the cancer getting worse and her being in the hospital made her reflect on her life and she finally softened and accepted goyoung as he is
5:51 i disagree with the comment. i think the fact that you guys reflect about the events on the episodes in a singular, sometimes even messy way, relating what's going on with your own personal experiences and cultural baggages, it's what makes your recaps and reactions so unique and tbh it's one of the major reasons i keep up with the channel 😆
I beg of you do not listen to that comment, that is the whiniest thing I've ever heard grow up. Your podcast is good because its YOU. You both are funny and empathetic and enjoyable to listen to please keep being yourselves.
Also I really feel like the mum was basically asking him not to try to kill himself as we all die eventually. It felt genuinely very uplifting to me as maybe her first moment of really understanding how difficult his life has been
The scene at the table wasn't entirely improvised; the directors gave them guidance on how they wanted the scene to be. From what was seen, it was supposed to be less intense, but they literally took everything to the next level, practically creating their "version" of what they were instructed to do.
39:00 its so interesting that u said this about it seeming like he just doesn't eat western food, because in the novel he is explicitly against the west/mentions american imperialism multiple times
It's incredible that we can all perceive that scene differently and maybe it's because my relationship with both my parents is strained, but by telling him "to stop trying so hard", it felt like she was embarrassed, like his attempt was an insult to her, like she needed him to stop being too much. Sigh. Maybe i would see it differently if it wasn't the FIRST thing she said to him. And then, the scene with the friends was everything to me. Found family means so so much to me. And for him, it feels good to know he'll never be alone in this universe. I just know this show is about platonic love and self love more than anything.
The author basically said that the book is an explorstion of different typs of love/relationships (so for the first two its friendship as love) and it almost reads as 4 connected short stories so i really loved the way they did 2 epispdes each with their own directors! I hope not too spoilery but it was an interesting framework to have in mind watching Also unrelated but so many peope on twitter were resharing scens that ARE hot but also like you said also so unsettling when youre actually watching the full show and its actually so nice to see a nuanced reaction to it as a whole
"what else is there to go through?" oh boy......... if you think young's life took enough turns well it's about to take flips and jumps and cartwheels. may god bless your hearts with enough strength to get through this because i was on my twitter priv posting pics of myself crying, clonazepam in my hand trying to calm down. i'm just begging yall to PLEASE avoid spoilers at all costs from now on
this is such an interesting take and it could just be translation discrepancies but when i heard what the mom said to him in the hospital i took it as like everyone dies so you shouldnt try so hard to end your life early, basically telling him NOT to die.
With a very sick parent, no matter how horrible they are to you in their final years, as their child, you feel the burden to make their last years happy. You don't want them to die miserable and in more pain than necessary. You honestly remember all the good and do your best for THAT parent, not the one that's leaving you. He might be keeping this relationship bc it's so hard to let a person you once loved die alone and sad.
this is probably one of my favourite recaps to date bcs this episode was a lot and the breakdown in 2 parts was necessary and thank you for trusting us with your stories, and your personal insights!!
i thought what go young's mom said about not trying so hard was sweet until i read the novel and he reacted poorly to it so i truly have no idea what the intent was supposed to be
i'd already finished the book when i watched the episode so i immediately took what she said negatively... but also, if i'm not mistaken, the subtitles is verbatim how she phrases in the english translation of the book, and like you said, go young's internal reaction wasn't positive at all. i think it is supposed to be ambiguous... and given her actions and her personality, like adam and rj discussed, we do not exactly have a (narrative) reason to take what she said 100% positively.
i think ppl are just hoping she wouldn't say something *that* cruel but like... for her, given her belief system, it isn't cruel at all. go young does not share her beliefs tho 😭
I kinda thought his mum was saying that he shouldn’t try to die so much, because you shouldn’t throw your like away before your time. It reads that way to me becuase she’s very clearly dying but doesn’t want to, so seeing someone with so much life left trying to die is probably very confusing. I did really like that his friends were there and really championing him, and I thought his mother could really see them that he would be cared for whether she accepts him or not, and it seems like she’s on track to realising she needs to let her fears around being gay go.
I took the mom’s comment very differently. I took it as life is short and you will die eventually so don’t rush it. I feel the money and this sequence was them coming to terms and accepting each other.
i honestly click on these videos to hear all the different tangents you go as well as the interesting thoughts on the episodes, not perfectly structured chatpgt-like essays. thats what make it fun!
I'm just excited for the next episode's recap, I love this recap and how you guys break it down between the two relationships, the mom and then with the man... Whenever i watch your recaps, and you guys share your own stories, i always listen to it intently and then pause, and then "talk" to you guys about how i see the show from my prespective and how it relates to my life story as well, I'll be like "oh you think so Adam? Because yes! Totally...i can see that too! blablabla" 😂
I had to quit this BL after episode 2 because I was getting too emotional, and thank god cause here I am listening to a recap, balling my eyes out. Smh
Thank you for the interesting conversation on this episode. The episode was so fascinating. It reminded me of growing up Christian and witnessing my gay brother’s conflict with his faith and judgement from people he loves. Seeing this is how i learned to see through love and drop the garbage.
I think it's amazing that this queer drama is loved by women as entertainment while also resonating with gay individuals. That's why I love this TV show. Shallow BL dramas are just not interesting anymore…
I was the one commented about the pacing, i love you guys because you two are so funny and articulate, i even joined patreon to watch your reactions. It was just that one episode of itsay recap where i felt it was a bit chaotic, i was trying to be funny by starting my comment saying its a hate comment but ig its tone deaf lol keep doing what you guys are doing! ke yi
I just lost my grandma 2 months ago to cancer. She was told she only had 6 months to a yr to live and she fought hard and surpassed what they told her. It took 4 years for cancer to win. She was a tiny little fighter! Her last day i was with her. She was on hospice and was bery incoherent but while i was massaging her hand she said clear as day "i cant do it anymore". I told her she didnt have to if she didnt want to and i loved her more than anything in this world. 2 hrs later she passed! Cancer is a big reason i dont believe in the Christian "God"! Ive watched someone close to me die from AIDS and now Cancer...shit is so surreal and hard! I wouldnt wish it on the worst enemy!
Oh this episode HIT, i was definitely crying by the end scene. The relationships are so complicated. But there is one thing that I kinda regret wasn't that well adapted from the book and it's how Yeong Su's internalised homophobia is partialy motivated by his nationalistic ideals, it was a very interesting point of view, one that I haven't really consider before. That's so far the only book change that bothered me a little, but i understand why they would like to interweave both storylines by the religious homophobia of it all. Still a great episode. Looking forward to the next part!
I can speak as someone who's had similar dynamics with my own mom. Growing up she was abusive, not a super kind woman, but was the only one trying her best to take care of me and my siblings after my mom and dad divorced. She didn't like when I came out as bisexual, would say comments like I should get assaulted for wearing anything that showed skin (including knee length skirts), etc. But, she was fiercely protective, did her best given her circumstances, and sacrificed a lot. When you grow up in this type of environment you get used to the tiptoeing. Even tho I was able to occasionally joke, there was always an underlying tension to our dynamic, things that we both knew but refused to talk about, similar to sexuality in this show between them. I cut her off right before I turned 18, but even tho it was for the better I still miss her. The happy moments, the care, the adoration. When growing up makes you feel like a burden, when you see your mom try her hardest, it's hard to completely see her as a bad person. It's complicated. Especially when it comes to matters of death. I guess the only way I could compare it is imagine you have a life long friend, they helped you when you wanted to die, and was there for you constantly. Imagine if they were your ONLY friend. Words cannot express how much they supported you, hung out, you had a connection with them you've never had with another person and there was genuine love. But imagine one night they get drunk and slept with your spouse. You'd be heartbroken, dizzy, unsure what to do because of your history. But then immediately after, your friend gets sick and might die at any moment. They're on the hospital bed, potentially passing away any second. Would you truly cut them off 100% and walk away cold turkey, or try to visit them even though they betrayed you because of everything else you shared, because they were your only friend, and the fact that they know you the best? It's hard. Codependent sure, but it's a reality.
Hmmm… I kind of interpreted it very differently from both of you. I cried when the mom said those lines: “Don’t try too hard. We all die eventually.” I felt like it meant that you don’t have to take your life because death will come for us anyway. So just live your life and don’t take things to heart. That’s why those lines hit so different for me. It’s meant to encourage Go Young to keep going and not resort to self-harm 😢
When I think this drama can’t evoke more emotions out of you..this episode def takes you on even more journey of human emotions & life! 🥺 love both of yours reactions that’s why I keep coming back! Agree ..the scene where go young friends come to hospital hit me like you to Adam 🥹 I think every scene & character is beautifully expressed in this drama! You both are the cutest! Thank you & take care ❤️
My interpretation of the "don't try too hard, we all die eventually" is like " I've been dealing with the death every single day, even though I didn't ask for this. So don't try to mess with my life acting like this". That is to say she takes this occurrence in a really egotistical way.
50:50 Why does Adam’s “i pass” voice sound like Bob from Bob’s burger? Funny cuzz he is probably bi. So, anyways. I appreciate yours take on the ‘academic writing’. I honestly was making excuses like well maybe he is just exploring it, it dowsnt means it’s what .. no, he fine as hell but he could go to hell as well cuz oh boy! And yeah you cant hate yourself and think you would be able to love someone else properly. It will sip in, that self loathing.
I thought his mom meant he shouldn’t try to die so hard because it will happen eventually anyway. It was, in my opinion, one of the kindest and most honest things she has said during this entire show
I was going to comment the same, I also think she meant "take your time, there's no need to rush" and coming from her, who hasn't got the time was what made it so meaningful.
yes, that's the same way I interpreted it
@@meru3430 exactly how i understood it too
okay i was going to comment this because that’s what i thought the first time i watched it. I can also see how Adam and RJ interpreted that line.
Yeah same, I thought it was an it’s ok, you don’t have to strive to be any kind of way or try so hard to be something you’re not kind of sentiment, because we’re all going to die
Rather than we’re all going to die as the focus and having the not having to try so hard be related specifically to staying alive
She wasn't saying it's ok you can die, she was saying don't be in such a hurry to die, it's gonna happen eventually anyway.
exactly. I was quite shocked at this interpretation, she definitely didn't tell him to die and loved him despite her awful homophobia. there's an added layer of context here that should be emphasized when it comes to the attitude towards suicide in the korean society. firstly, it is still considered a sin to try take your own life since in the minds of religious zealots like her it's the ultimate violation of 'god's will' to try preemptively exit the mortal realm and historically it was considered a mortal sin which stopped the person from ascending to heaven.
secondly, the korean society is driven by confucian collectivism so any behavior outside of the very narrow norm is considered as a slight towards the family or even society as a whole. so whether it's being gay or trying to take one's own life it is perceived as a failiure of the family rather than being seen as 'the flaw of an individual' as it is by western homophobes.
therefore on the one hand she's doubly ashamed of him because of these bigoted values instilled in her but at the same time I feel like she finally realized that homosexuality is innate and unchangeable and that her homophobic actions and betrayal was partially the reason for him being driven to such self-destruction. if she was my mother I could never forgive her, however I do think the shock of seeing her son potentially on his deathbed solidified that her love for him is greater than her disdain for his sexuality. that's why after that she no longer pesters him with her expectations of how she imagined his life and even if she can't entirely accept his sexuality she seems to at least make peace with it. it's as if she was saying 'live how you need to live then but please just live'.
Exactly. When she said don't try so hard, I took it as "don't try so hard to end your life" not "don't try so hard to remain alive".
I thought his mom was in her own way encouraging him to keep living cuz death comes eventually
Go young was like omg my mom and my bf have so much in common (homophobia) they should meet!
I fully thought they were going to meet and he was going to go ”so you both hate gay people, discuss” like the drama queen he is
the way i interpreted what his mom said while he was in the hospital bed is that i thought he tried to unalive himself during the scene where he was drinking a lot of pills (or so i thought was the scene) but he was saved so his mom said that. i didnt interpreted it as she is being mean but on the contrary, she was encouring him to live and he doesnt need to hurry with ending his life.
That’s exactly how I interpreted it. I didn’t feel his mom was telling him to die, I actually felt she was telling him there was still so much for him to experience and enjoy in life and that he should live to the fullest until it was actually his time to die (of old age).
yeah this scene and the fact that she kept the polaroid of goyoung and youngsoo felt hopeful to me like the cancer getting worse and her being in the hospital made her reflect on her life and she finally softened and accepted goyoung as he is
that’s how I took it as well. “we all die eventually so you don’t have to rush it” which I thought was sweet
5:51 i disagree with the comment. i think the fact that you guys reflect about the events on the episodes in a singular, sometimes even messy way, relating what's going on with your own personal experiences and cultural baggages, it's what makes your recaps and reactions so unique and tbh it's one of the major reasons i keep up with the channel 😆
I beg of you do not listen to that comment, that is the whiniest thing I've ever heard grow up. Your podcast is good because its YOU. You both are funny and empathetic and enjoyable to listen to please keep being yourselves.
Also I really feel like the mum was basically asking him not to try to kill himself as we all die eventually. It felt genuinely very uplifting to me as maybe her first moment of really understanding how difficult his life has been
ALSO, next week might be better but it somehow does get sadder from here overall good luck.
I'm so glad Nam Yoonsu is the lead actor.
The scene at the table wasn't entirely improvised; the directors gave them guidance on how they wanted the scene to be. From what was seen, it was supposed to be less intense, but they literally took everything to the next level, practically creating their "version" of what they were instructed to do.
39:00 its so interesting that u said this about it seeming like he just doesn't eat western food, because in the novel he is explicitly against the west/mentions american imperialism multiple times
It's incredible that we can all perceive that scene differently and maybe it's because my relationship with both my parents is strained, but by telling him "to stop trying so hard", it felt like she was embarrassed, like his attempt was an insult to her, like she needed him to stop being too much. Sigh. Maybe i would see it differently if it wasn't the FIRST thing she said to him. And then, the scene with the friends was everything to me. Found family means so so much to me. And for him, it feels good to know he'll never be alone in this universe. I just know this show is about platonic love and self love more than anything.
The author basically said that the book is an explorstion of different typs of love/relationships (so for the first two its friendship as love) and it almost reads as 4 connected short stories so i really loved the way they did 2 epispdes each with their own directors! I hope not too spoilery but it was an interesting framework to have in mind watching
Also unrelated but so many peope on twitter were resharing scens that ARE hot but also like you said also so unsettling when youre actually watching the full show and its actually so nice to see a nuanced reaction to it as a whole
"what else is there to go through?" oh boy......... if you think young's life took enough turns well it's about to take flips and jumps and cartwheels. may god bless your hearts with enough strength to get through this because i was on my twitter priv posting pics of myself crying, clonazepam in my hand trying to calm down. i'm just begging yall to PLEASE avoid spoilers at all costs from now on
this is such an interesting take and it could just be translation discrepancies but when i heard what the mom said to him in the hospital i took it as like everyone dies so you shouldnt try so hard to end your life early, basically telling him NOT to die.
With a very sick parent, no matter how horrible they are to you in their final years, as their child, you feel the burden to make their last years happy. You don't want them to die miserable and in more pain than necessary. You honestly remember all the good and do your best for THAT parent, not the one that's leaving you. He might be keeping this relationship bc it's so hard to let a person you once loved die alone and sad.
this is probably one of my favourite recaps to date bcs this episode was a lot and the breakdown in 2 parts was necessary and thank you for trusting us with your stories, and your personal insights!!
i thought what go young's mom said about not trying so hard was sweet until i read the novel and he reacted poorly to it so i truly have no idea what the intent was supposed to be
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i'd already finished the book when i watched the episode so i immediately took what she said negatively... but also, if i'm not mistaken, the subtitles is verbatim how she phrases in the english translation of the book, and like you said, go young's internal reaction wasn't positive at all. i think it is supposed to be ambiguous... and given her actions and her personality, like adam and rj discussed, we do not exactly have a (narrative) reason to take what she said 100% positively.
i think ppl are just hoping she wouldn't say something *that* cruel but like... for her, given her belief system, it isn't cruel at all. go young does not share her beliefs tho 😭
I kinda thought his mum was saying that he shouldn’t try to die so much, because you shouldn’t throw your like away before your time. It reads that way to me becuase she’s very clearly dying but doesn’t want to, so seeing someone with so much life left trying to die is probably very confusing. I did really like that his friends were there and really championing him, and I thought his mother could really see them that he would be cared for whether she accepts him or not, and it seems like she’s on track to realising she needs to let her fears around being gay go.
I took the mom’s comment very differently. I took it as life is short and you will die eventually so don’t rush it. I feel the money and this sequence was them coming to terms and accepting each other.
i honestly click on these videos to hear all the different tangents you go as well as the interesting thoughts on the episodes, not perfectly structured chatpgt-like essays. thats what make it fun!
Such a beautiful scene of found family in this episode. I loved it and one of my favourite scenes from the show. Very moving x
I'm with many of the other comments. I felt like Mom was saying, you will eventually die you don't have to hurry the process.
it's extremely hurtful to love someone who hates themselves so much, i've been through that :/
I'm just excited for the next episode's recap, I love this recap and how you guys break it down between the two relationships, the mom and then with the man...
Whenever i watch your recaps, and you guys share your own stories, i always listen to it intently and then pause, and then "talk" to you guys about how i see the show from my prespective and how it relates to my life story as well, I'll be like "oh you think so Adam? Because yes! Totally...i can see that too! blablabla" 😂
I had to quit this BL after episode 2 because I was getting too emotional, and thank god cause here I am listening to a recap, balling my eyes out. Smh
Thank you for the interesting conversation on this episode. The episode was so fascinating. It reminded me of growing up Christian and witnessing my gay brother’s conflict with his faith and judgement from people he loves. Seeing this is how i learned to see through love and drop the garbage.
I think it's amazing that this queer drama is loved by women as entertainment while also resonating with gay individuals. That's why I love this TV show. Shallow BL dramas are just not interesting anymore…
OH I'M SO EXCITED FOR THE NEXT 2 EPISODEEEEESSSSSSSS AAAAAAAAAAAA THE 2ND HALF OF THE SHOW IS THE TRUE MASTERPIECE 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
I was the one commented about the pacing, i love you guys because you two are so funny and articulate, i even joined patreon to watch your reactions. It was just that one episode of itsay recap where i felt it was a bit chaotic, i was trying to be funny by starting my comment saying its a hate comment but ig its tone deaf lol keep doing what you guys are doing! ke yi
haha no you’re good now we just know to warn people ahead of time ;)
"What else is there to go through" 😭💔 Oh well...
Anyways, thank you for another great recap episode, I always look forward to them!
rj this haircut is tooo good!!
I just lost my grandma 2 months ago to cancer. She was told she only had 6 months to a yr to live and she fought hard and surpassed what they told her. It took 4 years for cancer to win. She was a tiny little fighter! Her last day i was with her. She was on hospice and was bery incoherent but while i was massaging her hand she said clear as day "i cant do it anymore". I told her she didnt have to if she didnt want to and i loved her more than anything in this world. 2 hrs later she passed! Cancer is a big reason i dont believe in the Christian "God"! Ive watched someone close to me die from AIDS and now Cancer...shit is so surreal and hard! I wouldnt wish it on the worst enemy!
Oh this episode HIT, i was definitely crying by the end scene. The relationships are so complicated. But there is one thing that I kinda regret wasn't that well adapted from the book and it's how Yeong Su's internalised homophobia is partialy motivated by his nationalistic ideals, it was a very interesting point of view, one that I haven't really consider before. That's so far the only book change that bothered me a little, but i understand why they would like to interweave both storylines by the religious homophobia of it all. Still a great episode. Looking forward to the next part!
I can speak as someone who's had similar dynamics with my own mom. Growing up she was abusive, not a super kind woman, but was the only one trying her best to take care of me and my siblings after my mom and dad divorced. She didn't like when I came out as bisexual, would say comments like I should get assaulted for wearing anything that showed skin (including knee length skirts), etc. But, she was fiercely protective, did her best given her circumstances, and sacrificed a lot. When you grow up in this type of environment you get used to the tiptoeing. Even tho I was able to occasionally joke, there was always an underlying tension to our dynamic, things that we both knew but refused to talk about, similar to sexuality in this show between them. I cut her off right before I turned 18, but even tho it was for the better I still miss her. The happy moments, the care, the adoration. When growing up makes you feel like a burden, when you see your mom try her hardest, it's hard to completely see her as a bad person. It's complicated. Especially when it comes to matters of death. I guess the only way I could compare it is imagine you have a life long friend, they helped you when you wanted to die, and was there for you constantly. Imagine if they were your ONLY friend. Words cannot express how much they supported you, hung out, you had a connection with them you've never had with another person and there was genuine love. But imagine one night they get drunk and slept with your spouse. You'd be heartbroken, dizzy, unsure what to do because of your history. But then immediately after, your friend gets sick and might die at any moment. They're on the hospital bed, potentially passing away any second. Would you truly cut them off 100% and walk away cold turkey, or try to visit them even though they betrayed you because of everything else you shared, because they were your only friend, and the fact that they know you the best? It's hard. Codependent sure, but it's a reality.
Hmmm… I kind of interpreted it very differently from both of you. I cried when the mom said those lines: “Don’t try too hard. We all die eventually.” I felt like it meant that you don’t have to take your life because death will come for us anyway. So just live your life and don’t take things to heart. That’s why those lines hit so different for me. It’s meant to encourage Go Young to keep going and not resort to self-harm 😢
Exactly! I was surprised to hear them interpret it that way. When the mom told him that, I cried so much because it felt so encouraging.
Me too, i was sad to hear how they interpreted it. Mom is not that bad!!!
I thought this until I read the book, now I'm not rlly sure. I think it's meant to be kind of ambiguous
This iconic episode 😭
When I think this drama can’t evoke more emotions out of you..this episode def takes you on even more journey of human emotions & life! 🥺 love both of yours reactions that’s why I keep coming back! Agree ..the scene where go young friends come to hospital hit me like you to Adam 🥹 I think every scene & character is beautifully expressed in this drama! You both are the cutest! Thank you & take care ❤️
The 🫰🏽 in the hospital gets me every single time
My interpretation of the "don't try too hard, we all die eventually" is like " I've been dealing with the death every single day, even though I didn't ask for this. So don't try to mess with my life acting like this". That is to say she takes this occurrence in a really egotistical way.
50:50 Why does Adam’s “i pass” voice sound like Bob from Bob’s burger? Funny cuzz he is probably bi. So, anyways. I appreciate yours take on the ‘academic writing’. I honestly was making excuses like well maybe he is just exploring it, it dowsnt means it’s what .. no, he fine as hell but he could go to hell as well cuz oh boy! And yeah you cant hate yourself and think you would be able to love someone else properly. It will sip in, that self loathing.
Thanks
The intimate scene was not improvised, there's actually a clip of the director showing them what he wanted them to do over the table.
honestly thank god
Who's pulling these rumours out of their asses? LMAO
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