I absolutely love all of your videos, I love that you include the mistakes, we all make them, but you make it a laugh. Keep safe. I hope to buy a Brompton once my health improves, which is going well. Best Regards Mister XR
Great videos. I feel a bit sorry for the dealers not knowing what tyres\wheel colours dtc are going to turn up. It makes me think the Brompton factory is a bit chaotic or the marketing bods like to introduce just too many variations or maybe supply lines are still not settled down since the disruption of covidm
Thank you for the video! It is strange that part of the stem is in different color. Green lacquer was evenly painted. Looks like they took this part as a leftover from C-line Lacquer production
Hi! thank you for this video. I've just purchased a P-line here in NYC and I notice that the rims are clearly not the more aero P-line rims that I see in the images on the website. Are there any material differences in weight between the two wheelsets (using different rims), and do I have a reasonable basis for a complaint here? Also, the pedals unfortunately are also not the superlight removable ones - but no complaints on that as that's what the brompton website states in the specs at the moment. Thanks
Brompton changed the specs of the P Line for this year. They are the same hubs and spokes as the lighter wheels, just have the C Line non aero rims. They are very slightly heavier but not much. Thanks for watching!
Hello! I purchased a Brompton P line a few weeks ago, but I noticed it doesn't have the superlight pedals. Did I get the 2022 model? If so, is that the only thing I missed out on? The wheels are the superlight ones. Thank you for the fantastic videos!
On the blue bike with part of the stem black, maybe Brompton are changing designs and making it similar to the t line style of having the stem clamp higher up?
Why did they change the wheels back to the c-line , was there something wrong with the original P -line wheel ? Song - Colorful World = Kathryn Ostenberg.
@@brilliantbikes so there’s nothing wrong with the original p - line shells then ? Actually while I’ve got so to speak what is the difference between the two wheels, would make a good video for future the difference of the material and weight and what other else is different, I think it would make a wheelie good subject.
@@edwardli2022 Didn’t know that thanks, still doesn’t really make sense though because they had the c-line wheels there already yet they chose put put the new wheels on, now they changed their mind and put cheaper and heavier wheels on a product they are selling as light weight, seems rather strange, so the older models have the better wheels and the newer ones not, very clumsy thought process they have in Brompton, not that I can afford the P-line , if I did how can you tell the difference between them ?
Thanks for the question Because it’s lighter - hills are easier just due to the weight reduction over the C Line (why do we keep wanting to write Sea Lion!) If you live in a hilly area you could benefit even more with reduced gearing Best bet is to demo one from your local Brompton dealer
How about finally some colour in our life that sparkles a bit. Yeahhh. Only missing like sparkly candy red that would be really nice. Was sitting waiting for my car to be serviced about a week ago and in the showroom there was not 1 single car that had a bit of colour which would make people brighten up their life. How boring of a bunch we have become. Not saying by that that it all needs to be flashy pink or so. Thanks for showing us again!
I did NOT want to see this!! Now I'm being forced to buy the P-Line Flame Lacquer !😬😄 I already own a C Line, which I love but it's going to take much willpower to wait until a 12-speed version of the P hits the market.
As an owner of a, now - even lighter than: 2019 SuperlightM6LXBrompton (for now 9 kilo (with mudguards, as a "Rainy Dane"!), and still falling!!!), I do like my former Top-model, a Flame Painted, Gold bike (Black Edition), which now seems to be a standard choice, and not only a "Special Edition", as mine? I am sorry though, that I never got offered a choice of - "anything at all"(!), but only got to see the select number of the "Finished bikes" which they had in the ordinary bike - and Brompton Shop as Samples. A red, as mine and some "lousy" and cheaper/heavier version of a Brompton! But all with the long - 600 mm "Scandinavian Size" Saddle Post, as we are generally tall people up here, and we mostly can't use the original "Children Size" posts, which are standard on, it seems, most other markets? And this post doesn't fit in my very solid and German, B&W luggage box for a Brompton though, so I have to "disassemble" 🙄my "Folding Bike" before Travels! And still with the original folding pedal, as I would indeed "hate" to be able to loose a pedal during travels and transport! With a huge size, titanium bolt, though! Finn. Denmark
I think it's a bit hypocritical of Brompton to tout how sustainable they are while they have very limited options for their bikes. For example I want a 3 speed with high bars in Turkish Green (teal). To get a new one from Brompton I'd have to pay extra for a 6 speed electric high bar, remove the electric drivetrain, do the 6 to 3 speed conversion, and then I got a bunch of parts I don't want that are otherwise new that could have been used on a bike someone wanted and or as brand new replacement/conversion parts. I understand that custom orders would bog down production somewhat, but seriously if they made "custom" bikes using off the shelf parts (pick your color, stem height, drivetrain, etc.) It would be more sustainable and I'd honestly pay an extra $500 or more for the service. As it stands currently I'll likely have to wait years and or buy a NOS one online somewhere (if I can find it). *Edit: Brompton UK just dropped Yuzu Lime as a color on their 6 Speed C line which is available with a color matched high stem. Now while I love the Turkish Green (teal) paint color the only Bromptons sold new in the US with that color have the black stem, if I had to chose between a Yuzu Lime High Bar with a color matched stem or a Turkish green (teal) High Bar with a black stem I'd go with Yuzu Lime. Here's to hoping they'll bring it to the US with their 3 speed hub and without lights.
@@IverKnackerov Exactly the opposite. They already have the frames made and painted, they already have the components made and painted. they already have the drivetrains made, it's just a matter of putting X factory color frame, with X factory length stem, with X factory drivetrain the customer wants. Currently as it stands you have various frame colors completely unavailable for certain models because of arbitrary "lines" but the frames are the same. so why shouldn't you be able to buy a Turkish Teal 3 speed (for an extra custom fee) from the factory when literally the factory is like 'Eh, we just don't want to make this color frame available with this drivetrain.' I'm advocating that you can have Brompton take an off the shelf frame (in your preferred in production factory color for said frame), put in your preferred in production factory stem height (no color option), put in your preferred in production factory drivetrain, and TADA you have a bike someone wants where they don't have to literally remove otherwise new parts off a bike and trash them, and for a fee. Another advantage of this is you can see which colors are in demand and which ones are not instead of limiting color options to a given trim. I'm not asking them to run a custom paint shop, do custom mixing of painted components, custom 1 off drivetrains, etc. Literally just use existing parts and drivetrains for their regular bicycles (excluding the e-bikes due to possible software issues with different drivetrains).
I like these bikes until I realize most of the components on them are older than I am. And why are they so flimsy looking? Would they even support the weight of the average North American( we’re fat #*^+”).
Thanks for your kind comment The great thing as a pre-owner is that they hold their price well We met one user who had purchased his Brompton for £600 used it for commuting daily for 10 years and sold it for £650
Slightly grumpy that I bought one last month and have missed out on superlight pedals 🫠 (not with brilliant bikes with Brompton. Brilliant bikes are great)
I absolutely love all of your videos, I love that you include the mistakes, we all make them, but you make it a laugh. Keep safe. I hope to buy a Brompton once my health improves, which is going well. Best Regards Mister XR
Many thanks! And thank you for watching. Hope your health continues to improve!!! Enjoy your Brompton when you get it!
So glad to see the bolt blue lacquer make a comeback.
Yes! It’s so lovely! Thanks for watching!
Great videos.
I feel a bit sorry for the dealers not knowing what tyres\wheel colours dtc are going to turn up.
It makes me think the Brompton factory is a bit chaotic
or the marketing bods like to introduce just too many variations
or maybe supply lines are still not settled down since the disruption of covidm
Thanks for watching and the kind comments
The saddles were definitely down to supply chain issues (there really was a global saddle shortage!)
Always love your videos and small moments of jokes. Wishing you and cameraman Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays.
Many thanks!! Happy Christmas to you too and thanks you for watching!
Happy Christmas, Team Brilliant!
Happy Christmas too! Hope you have a lovely day!
Great videos. also, looking forward to new C line colors.
Many thanks for watching! We have recorded the C Line colours just need to get it ready! So won’t be long!
love my bronze sky
It is a lovely colour! Thanks for watching!
Thank you for the video! It is strange that part of the stem is in different color. Green lacquer was evenly painted. Looks like they took this part as a leftover from C-line Lacquer production
Many thanks for watching! Yup very strange!
Yay, Flame Lacquer finally coming for the P-Line Trim
It is really lovely! Thanks for watching!
Must repeat to myself " I do not need another Brompton". I have three. But those colours and specifications are very nice....
Thank you for helping me feel better about considering buying a second Brompton 😂
They really are lovely!
Thanks for watching!
Hi ! Thanks for the video ! What about the 12 speeds option seen on some bikes showed at Eurobikes a few months ago ?
How on earth do they get 12 gears? I need this! (Going in search...)
As soon as it comes out and we get our hands on one we will do a video on it. But for now we have to be patient.
@@WayneFoxPhotography They add a 3 speed hub.
Crikey. How on earth could they fit a Sturmey Archer and 4 cogs. Very interesting. Ta.
@@brilliantbikes Thanks for your answer ! By the way, Bolt Blue Lacquer seems to be a beautiful color !
Hi! thank you for this video. I've just purchased a P-line here in NYC and I notice that the rims are clearly not the more aero P-line rims that I see in the images on the website. Are there any material differences in weight between the two wheelsets (using different rims), and do I have a reasonable basis for a complaint here? Also, the pedals unfortunately are also not the superlight removable ones - but no complaints on that as that's what the brompton website states in the specs at the moment. Thanks
Brompton changed the specs of the P Line for this year. They are the same hubs and spokes as the lighter wheels, just have the C Line non aero rims. They are very slightly heavier but not much.
Thanks for watching!
Was wondering if you could make a video on adjusting the gears on the advance derailleur, my gears have been skipping from 4 to 3 quite a bit.
Hello! I purchased a Brompton P line a few weeks ago, but I noticed it doesn't have the superlight pedals. Did I get the 2022 model? If so, is that the only thing I missed out on? The wheels are the superlight ones. Thank you for the fantastic videos!
Many thanks for watching!
Yes if this year they should have the Superlight pedals.
@@brilliantbikes Ok.. Can you kindly explain to me what else I've missed from the new model? Thank you so much!
Finally more colours for P line...
Wohooo! And they are all lovely! Thanks for watching!
On the blue bike with part of the stem black, maybe Brompton are changing designs and making it similar to the t line style of having the stem clamp higher up?
Great video! They're not available on the Brompton website yet?
Oh no! Hopefully soon! Thanks for watching!
Surely 2024 colours?
Yes but they are not meant to be called model years so we kind of just went for released in Autumn 2023
Great video (as usual), is the P Line worth the extra money over the C Line?
It really depends what you want it for. I find the P Line great as it is lighter, I also don’t find the 4 gears too few.
Thank you! @@brilliantbikes
Where is your shop located?
Sunnigdale, just by the train station.
Thanks for watching
Will the price for the new colours be the same as before? And will they still be able to be bought with the advance roller frame?
Yes they can be configured with a roller rack, and the price has gone up for the new model year.
Thanks for watching!
When can we order the new colors on vendor?
They are available now 😀
Beautiful 😍
Thanks! And thanks for watching!
Why did they change the wheels back to the c-line , was there something wrong with the original P -line wheel ? Song - Colorful World = Kathryn Ostenberg.
Funny you should say that! They should have been shipped with the Alexrims aero rims….. we are waiting for an update on the next ones
@@brilliantbikes so there’s nothing wrong with the original p - line shells then ? Actually while I’ve got so to speak what is the difference between the two wheels, would make a good video for future the difference of the material and weight and what other else is different, I think it would make a wheelie good subject.
@@edwardli2022 so why did they put them on originally because they already had the other wheels there.
@@edwardli2022 Didn’t know that thanks, still doesn’t really make sense though because they had the c-line wheels there already yet they chose put put the new wheels on, now they changed their mind and put cheaper and heavier wheels on a product they are selling as light weight, seems rather strange, so the older models have the better wheels and the newer ones not, very clumsy thought process they have in Brompton, not that I can afford the P-line , if I did how can you tell the difference between them ?
Just ordered C line (green) 😁
The new Yuzu Lime colour? It looks lovely!
Racing green
How is the P on hills?
Thanks for the question
Because it’s lighter - hills are easier just due to the weight reduction over the C Line (why do we keep wanting to write Sea Lion!)
If you live in a hilly area you could benefit even more with reduced gearing
Best bet is to demo one from your local Brompton dealer
why p line flame laquer is not available in online?
It is on order and due in soon 😀
@@brilliantbikesyou know the exact date release the flame laquer p line? thanks to my answer
Disappointed to hear about storm grey being discontinued 😢
Love the video and the music!
I know he was lovely! But the new ones are really lovely! Thanks for watching!
How about finally some colour in our life that sparkles a bit. Yeahhh. Only missing like sparkly candy red that would be really nice.
Was sitting waiting for my car to be serviced about a week ago and in the showroom there was not 1 single car that had a bit of colour which would make people brighten up their life. How boring of a bunch we have become. Not saying by that that it all needs to be flashy pink or so.
Thanks for showing us again!
Many thanks for watching! Funny we have an orange car for a splash of colour!
@@brilliantbikes Thanks for making the world a bit more colourful!
want a racing green or yellow color with not painted fork and triangle
By ‘not painted fork or triangle’ do you mean the old super light version with raw titanium ?
No more storm grey..???😢😭
I know I liked him! Maybe some still left!
Thanks for watching!
I did NOT want to see this!! Now I'm being forced to buy the P-Line Flame Lacquer !😬😄 I already own a C Line, which I love but it's going to take much willpower to wait until a 12-speed version of the P hits the market.
Thanks for watching! Hope you enjoy your P Line flame lacquer!!!!
I love my Brompton but I find the pentaclip poor. You have to tighten it a lot to stop the saddle moving.
Please check the parts are the right order. It should only be done up to 15 Nm for the standard Pentaclip and 10 Nm for the Advanced
I love my midnight black but that flame lacquer is tempting.
It really is lovely!
Thanks for watching!
As an owner of a, now - even lighter than: 2019 SuperlightM6LXBrompton (for now 9 kilo (with mudguards, as a "Rainy Dane"!), and still falling!!!), I do like my former Top-model, a Flame Painted, Gold bike (Black Edition), which now seems to be a standard choice, and not only a "Special Edition", as mine?
I am sorry though, that I never got offered a choice of - "anything at all"(!), but only got to see the select number of the "Finished bikes" which they had in the ordinary bike - and Brompton Shop as Samples. A red, as mine and some "lousy" and cheaper/heavier version of a Brompton! But all with the long - 600 mm "Scandinavian Size" Saddle Post, as we are generally tall people up here, and we mostly can't use the original "Children Size" posts, which are standard on, it seems, most other markets?
And this post doesn't fit in my very solid and German, B&W luggage box for a Brompton though, so I have to "disassemble" 🙄my "Folding Bike" before Travels! And still with the original folding pedal, as I would indeed "hate" to be able to loose a pedal during travels and transport! With a huge size, titanium bolt, though! Finn. Denmark
Many thanks for watching!
Umm, It's also that time of year again when Brompton puts their prices up : - )
Oops ! Except that it appears that they haven't. Mea Culpa : - $
I guess that’s life, inflation and all! They have not gone up as much as adding the pedals after market. Thanks for watching!
Hello Guys,
I like the bronze one the best... but I am colour blind so not to be trusted - lol.
Take care.
Paul,,
No we really rather like it too! Thanks for watching!
Hi H, from the amount of training you have on carrying the Brompton.. u can start to join the competition.. hahahah
lol! 😂 thanks for watching!
I think it's a bit hypocritical of Brompton to tout how sustainable they are while they have very limited options for their bikes.
For example I want a 3 speed with high bars in Turkish Green (teal). To get a new one from Brompton I'd have to pay extra for a 6 speed electric high bar, remove the electric drivetrain, do the 6 to 3 speed conversion, and then I got a bunch of parts I don't want that are otherwise new that could have been used on a bike someone wanted and or as brand new replacement/conversion parts.
I understand that custom orders would bog down production somewhat, but seriously if they made "custom" bikes using off the shelf parts (pick your color, stem height, drivetrain, etc.) It would be more sustainable and I'd honestly pay an extra $500 or more for the service.
As it stands currently I'll likely have to wait years and or buy a NOS one online somewhere (if I can find it).
*Edit: Brompton UK just dropped Yuzu Lime as a color on their 6 Speed C line which is available with a color matched high stem. Now while I love the Turkish Green (teal) paint color the only Bromptons sold new in the US with that color have the black stem, if I had to chose between a Yuzu Lime High Bar with a color matched stem or a Turkish green (teal) High Bar with a black stem I'd go with Yuzu Lime. Here's to hoping they'll bring it to the US with their 3 speed hub and without lights.
So to fit your definition of sustainable, they have to manufacture and stock, a whole load of models that no one else wants to buy?
@@IverKnackerov Exactly the opposite. They already have the frames made and painted, they already have the components made and painted. they already have the drivetrains made, it's just a matter of putting X factory color frame, with X factory length stem, with X factory drivetrain the customer wants.
Currently as it stands you have various frame colors completely unavailable for certain models because of arbitrary "lines" but the frames are the same. so why shouldn't you be able to buy a Turkish Teal 3 speed (for an extra custom fee) from the factory when literally the factory is like 'Eh, we just don't want to make this color frame available with this drivetrain.'
I'm advocating that you can have Brompton take an off the shelf frame (in your preferred in production factory color for said frame), put in your preferred in production factory stem height (no color option), put in your preferred in production factory drivetrain, and TADA you have a bike someone wants where they don't have to literally remove otherwise new parts off a bike and trash them, and for a fee. Another advantage of this is you can see which colors are in demand and which ones are not instead of limiting color options to a given trim.
I'm not asking them to run a custom paint shop, do custom mixing of painted components, custom 1 off drivetrains, etc. Literally just use existing parts and drivetrains for their regular bicycles (excluding the e-bikes due to possible software issues with different drivetrains).
Brompton has taken a lesson from Apple. We don't give you a pump because who wants that extra weight ? But you can buy one from us !
Maybe ;-)
To be fair if I got a Brompton I'd have an airless setup so I wouldn't need the pump.
💜🫠🫠🫠
Thanks for watching
I like these bikes until I realize most of the components on them are older than I am. And why are they so flimsy looking? Would they even support the weight of the average North American( we’re fat #*^+”).
Your videos are great. However this bike has become overpriced in my opinion and I own a 2017 M6L
Thanks for your kind comment
The great thing as a pre-owner is that they hold their price well
We met one user who had purchased his Brompton for £600 used it for commuting daily for 10 years and sold it for £650
Slightly grumpy that I bought one last month and have missed out on superlight pedals 🫠 (not with brilliant bikes with Brompton. Brilliant bikes are great)
Aaahhh yes that’s a shame! We also do love the Superlight pedals!
Thanks for watching!
@@brilliantbikes is it worth the upgrade? I've never had a problem with the fold down ones
Just fitted some to my CHPT3. They are lush.