The nuts comment had me in stiches 😂 love to see the other outtakes you dare not broadcast! 😅 Great vid Ms Brill, really well presented and researched 🙌🏼😘
I was having a hard time finding a saddle that worked for me on my Brompton, was broken hearted that I would have to sell it. But after watching this video I thought I would give that saddle a try. And it has worked great! Even though I don't have a CPTR3 I am very grateful for your video. Thank you very much!
How times change. In the 1990s, the cheapest Brompton didn't have mudguards. These days the most expensive Brompton is the one that doesn't get mudguards. While I'm sure I would love one, I would be terrified of using it and scratching it because it is a work of art. The gloss paint will look great, but it does scratch easily (but I suppose paint is easier to touch up compared to power coating on standard bikes). I guess the only way I would be happy with the CHPT3 would be to get two - one to ride and one to mount on the wall.
The V4 is the best riding current Brompton you can buy , although its a heavier than the T line. Its frame and hinges, unlike the T line, are super solid and quiet. Until the next improved T line comes out , this is still the best riding Brompton you can buy.
Pretty much. Really don't like the way Brompton have been going for some years now and it's getting worse tbh. They need a clean out at the top and new management who'll work on improving the actual bikes instead of wasting their time on these blatant cash grabs with dubious partners like CHPT3 and David Millar.
@@gibbson130 You don't get it. Theyve got everyone's attention. They can do as they please now. The money will keep coming. Like Rolex for watches. People can't see further than these labels. When there are superior small wheel bikes out there. Like Tern, Moulton and Birdy. The Pline is Bromptons best bike ever hands down for the money. No need to spend 5 grand on a TLine. The Pline is as good as its gonna get for sub 3 grand from Brompton. The only thing that needs doing is a 21 tooth cog on gear 1 and you are good to go..
That bike is a clever marketing ploy because they cannot get the parts from abroad in time to finish them off properly. Glad I bought my 2 before covid struck. They have all the bits on them 😊
As a Dane I had absolutely no idea what "CHPT3" was (A Br. commercial for a local English Brand of some kind, I later found out?), but I like the red front. But when I bought my new Flame Painted, 6 gear, Golden Superlight in 2019, just before Brexit, in Copenhagen, it already had a titanium fork and - back and - now also a black T seat post (It's a Black Version). With slightly modified mudguards (it already had titanium stays) and room for some less weight/parts in Spring, which I have ready, I expect it to come below 9 kilo at least, even with ordinary S wheels, without Tubolito. I may change if I have a puncture at a time? 😄 Finn. Denmark
What are S wheels? 🤔 The lightest tires AFAIK that are also good for punctures are the Continental Contact Urban. Obviously you can get a very light Brompton but after a certain point you are just loosing practical functionality and not just lightening it up.
@@b.griffin317 S wheels refer to Superlight front wheels fitted to bikes previously named with an ‘X’ in their name, eg: S6L-X, H2R-X etc. Which Brompton logically changed to ‘P’ (logically = my sarcasm) the line name changes are confusing and stupid IMO.
@@b.griffin317 "Superlight", original wheels. And I have a Carbon handlebar to replace the original M and a black, original, security type, titanium seat post, on my bike. I have changed brake parts, nuts and bolts to titanium and have new clamps for my mudguards (original titanium stays), which are considerably lighter than the original from "Heavy Metal"! Nothing special and not like the original bike, so its function is just like an "original bike" just somewhat lighter. Also a titanium axle for the front wheel and round locking wheels with a security bolt, to lock and unlock the frame during use. I'm not able to totally unscrew and loose those, as originally! For now my bike is down to just over 9 kilo, and I hardly find it worth the money to buy a T line (with mudguards), and with only 4 gears, from my 6. Finn. Denmark
I would like one that emphasised "strong" over light for heavy riders (like myself) particularly for tough voluminous tyres to mitigate snake bite pinch punctures and lower ratios for hills
Love these chpt 3 bikes, several times tried to buy one but always sold out. Not paying silly money on eBay. Just have to put up with my standard Brompton. Love the videos, you are an excellent and entertaining presenter. Thanks
I have this Chpt3 and it’s awesome. The pictures don’t do the colour justice. You’re basically paying an extra couple of hundred pounds for a P-line with better saddle, grips, tubes, custom paint job, ‘exclusive’ frame bag and no mudguards. Up to you if you think it’s worth it. Personally I’m not a fan of the glittery finish on the P-lines, so it definitely was. FYI, I purchased a set of mudguards from Brilliant Bikes for it, but the front mudguard does not come with the nut and bolt to secure it to the front forks. They said they would try and find one and get back to me, but never did. You’ll have to try and source one somewhere else.
Cheers "Dave M" or should I David Millar, owner of CHPT3 for your completely unbiased input on this bike which isn't nothing but a blatant cash grab you and Brompton are flogging. p.s. change your youtube name next time.
I wish they would make a single speed brompton with a flip flop hub like a fixed gear it would be very easy and fast to fix a flat on the road. Right now I use a citizen milan and retrospect judd because those are single speeds,I do not trust the durability of the coaster brake on the judd tho wish it had a caliper brake like the citizen.
My friend bought the v4 from Brompton Junctions Singapore has an issue of lowering down the seat-post when folding the bike . Seat-post seems to be stuck need to lift up the rear tyre in order to lower down smoothly . Guess it is due to the absence of the mudguards.
I'd love that wedge bag for a wedge sandwich. Do you think they'll be made available for everyone at some point? One can only hope. They did make the CHPT3 sling available later. And the matchy-matchiness of the CHPT3s is fun. Do you get to keep this one?
@@brilliantbikes I sensed a hint that you'd adopt this one. Weight weenies unite! So far I got my CHPT3v2 down to 9.7 kilos (even with a Brooks saddle, ahem, priorities). Looking forward to mods-videos. woot woot
I'm not familiar with the Brompton company setup these days' but I hope they include electric scooters in their portfolio so as to capitalise on this new trend and not lose out with their market share. Given their prowess for technical innovation and high quality manufacturing I'm sure they could improve on the basic concept to produce a superior product and be successful in this field too.
I've been riding this bike for about a month th-cam.com/users/postUgkxwC0IIeIomGQVeBWg-kKJaToZkLEFIA2W and a half now and I think it's fantastic. It helps me get to work on time every day since I'm able to fit it inside of public transportation rush hour. The price is great too, people are always shocked when they ask me how much I paid for the fold up and I tell them "200". It's easy to fold and installation when it ships is insanely easy. All you have to install when the bike arrives is one foot pedal, everything else is done for you. I do recommend you carry some sort of wrench to tighten any loose screws on the handle bar and seat whenever they get a little bit loose. Other than that I think it's a fantastic bike. Easily fits in the home, can fit inside a car trunk and can even fit in subway rush hour.
@brilliantbikes Thanks so much for your videos! I enjoy them immensely. Question: 9.87 vs 9.79 = -80 g after switching to a titanium fork, Tubolitos, and deleting mud guards? Per Brompton it should weigh 400 g less (9.9 vs 9.5 kg). I was considering the CHPT3 V4, but maybe not?
Now I'm all confused , my Brompton is a six speed with the two speed derailleur removed and an after market electric front wheel fitted. I think I'll call it an X Line.
Thanks for the video. I note that you tightened the Pentaclip to 10Nm. The manual says 15Nm which feels like it’s crushing the seat post. Which is correct, 10Nm or 15Nm?
Yes I’m so sorry! I thought at that point it was a superlight PentaClip, not a standard one. The superlight should be done to 10Nm the standard of course 15Nm Thanks for watching and correcting us
I think the original P- line seems to make the new chpt 3 version 4 not really new other than different paint , not criticising just stating the obvious one thinks and who needs a wet bottom =answers on a postcard, it’s time for the song people = Sandwich = Cinko De Mayo .
Hello, A very nice bike indeed... Do you think Brompton will ever sell the small sandwich bag (frame pouch) on its own? I would one... Take care. Paul,,
Knowing Brompton it's unlikely or if they do it'll be silly money like £60. However i'm sure some 3rd party supplier over in Asia will get on the ball very soon at a sensible price.
The Video is Awesome like Always, to bad that the Bike isn't. I think that it's the Worst CHP3 until now. To Many Colors without Plan, thrown together. For the 3000 plus Price Tag, it's not worth it. The normal Grey P-Line could be made to a better CHP3 then this one with the same look. Praise the Bike God's for the Aftermarket and its Awesome Tuning Parts that are available. 😆
@@platypushatstand Thanks on the update. I have not seen many bromptons in India probably cause they cost a lot more here due to import duties. best wishes.
I was expecting the new CHPT3 to be a skinned T Line. CHPT3 is supposed to be the top-of-line, right? That is why you would pay the premium. Unfortunately Brompton scarred their own sub-brand...
If i am honest, it was a bit of a disappointment as it’s more or less a p line with a special color way. I was hoping they added more gears as people are modding the 4 speed to 5 and even 7 speed
they have no interest in fixing problems like these or the fact you can't change the power settings from the handle bars like pretty much 99% of other e-bikes. Or the poor issue prone derailleur system or the completely bodged 6 speed dual derailleur and hub system because they won't invest in a 6 speed hub. Instead of solving long running basic issues we just get them investing money in more colours or money grabs like this CHPT3.
Nice review but what makes the chpt3 v4 heavier than the standard P-line ? Considering the standard P-line 9.87kg, include rear rack, front & rear mudguard vs the CHPT# v4 9.79kg ?
Thats 9.87kg without the rear rack. It’s basically the same weight, it’s the lack of mudguards and different saddle, grips, tubes and frame bag that make the weight difference.
In the New York video some bikes have a teal/blue suspension block. Looks like it was dropped for production. And there is a CHPT 3 racer that has flashes of blue at seat post/bars.
@@cmdctrl thanks for your reply I did notice that on the NY vid. Would have made sense with that I guess. I just don’t understand the sudden deviation from tradition.
What a waste of time and resources for Brompton. Instead of these silly "editions" and shovelling even more money to David Millar they should be improving their existing range and making their bikes more affordable for us mere mortals.
The joke is on us sadly. Still the 40 year old inner city trustafarian man children will happily snap this bike up at £3k a pop, you know the ones who still go round wearing the same skater gear they did when they were 16. They'll pay anything to pretend they are still hip and cool. It's so sad that all us regular Brommie owners want are better more affordable bikes but we get crap like this instead.
@@gibbson130ow, would you like some more salt on those chips? I'm 47, ride a V3 Chpt3, and still wear edgy stuff like trainers and hoodies. I've also got an M6L electric too, for when I can't be arsed. I'm glad I conform loosely to a type that seems to bother you so much. Justifies the £2250 I dropped on the V3 in Jan '21... especially as my previous two Bromptons just wouldn't have caused the same irritation. Nonetheless, Brompton are masters at ignoring obvious design improvements. The M6L electric is an abysmal bit of design that really shouldn't have left prototype stage. But... they've been this way for years - my 2014 S2E had a steel headset FFS!! Anyway, you keep on hating those that choose to dress or ride a certain way... irrational bitterness is such an endearing thing. Love & Hugs
@@gibbson130 cheer up & buy yourself a A line, or is that too expensive too? Unfortunately, it's very rare things come down in price, but how is what other people do, or buy mean anything to you? I'm sure we'd all like a T line at £500 but it's not going to happen, instead of numerous comments (just on this thread), slagging off Brompton on Brilliant Bikes Brilliant Videos page, e-mail Brompton direct. Ps I had a chopper when I was a teen, skater boys weren't in existence, your understanding of people & demographics is completely wrong
The nuts comment had me in stiches 😂 love to see the other outtakes you dare not broadcast! 😅
Great vid Ms Brill, really well presented and researched 🙌🏼😘
I was having a hard time finding a saddle that worked for me on my Brompton, was broken hearted that I would have to sell it. But after watching this video I thought I would give that saddle a try. And it has worked great! Even though I don't have a CPTR3 I am very grateful for your video. Thank you very much!
So glad it helped! Thanks for watching!
I came from the Ti seatpost vid just to see the frame bag 😆
Thank you! The bag is fab!
Thanks for watching!!
How times change. In the 1990s, the cheapest Brompton didn't have mudguards. These days the most expensive Brompton is the one that doesn't get mudguards.
While I'm sure I would love one, I would be terrified of using it and scratching it because it is a work of art. The gloss paint will look great, but it does scratch easily (but I suppose paint is easier to touch up compared to power coating on standard bikes).
I guess the only way I would be happy with the CHPT3 would be to get two - one to ride and one to mount on the wall.
😂 I agree I always want to keep them perfect. But somehow they look even better loved with a few scratches, everyone has a memory 😀
No one needs a lawnmower that big LOL ,
Probably the best review of the CHPT3 v 4 in the world ever .
💁🏻♀️ yep, that’s your emoji🚴🏾♀️
Thank you so much! And thank you for watching!
The lawny was huge!
Great video. My CHPT3 V4 is my first Brompton. Looking forward to your ideas to lighten it
😀 first weight saving video in progress. Thank you for watching and hope you enjoy your new Brompton
Same here. looking forward to your ideas to lighten it :D
Love the colour.
We agree it’s kind of cool! Thanks for watching!
U R brilliant at what U do
The V4 is the best riding current Brompton you can buy , although its a heavier than the T line.
Its frame and hinges, unlike the T line, are super solid and quiet.
Until the next improved T line comes out , this is still the best riding Brompton you can buy.
😀. We agree it’s a lovely bike! Thanks for watching!
So in conclusion - the more you spend the less you get 😉
Pretty much. Really don't like the way Brompton have been going for some years now and it's getting worse tbh. They need a clean out at the top and new management who'll work on improving the actual bikes instead of wasting their time on these blatant cash grabs with dubious partners like CHPT3 and David Millar.
That was sort of the principle adopted by British Airways with Concorde. The shorter the journey time, the higher the cost.
Sounds about brompton right
Kult ist teuer ! Siehe Eriba Touring ! 🤑
@@gibbson130
You don't get it. Theyve got everyone's attention. They can do as they please now. The money will keep coming. Like Rolex for watches. People can't see further than these labels. When there are superior small wheel bikes out there. Like Tern, Moulton and Birdy.
The Pline is Bromptons best bike ever hands down for the money. No need to spend 5 grand on a TLine. The Pline is as good as its gonna get for sub 3 grand from Brompton. The only thing that needs doing is a 21 tooth cog on gear 1 and you are good to go..
So, if you live in a city where is does not rain, and you have nothing to carry on your bike, the CHPT4 v4 is PERFECT.
it's aimed at 35 year old trustafairan man children who still hang around at skate parks.
Brompto!
Minus the 'n' off the sticker has reduced weight !
New for 2024 order now!
H is getting her revenge on throw stuff back :D
😀, eventually! Thanks for watching!
I have mine and it is v-niiiiiice. Need dry day to go and play.
They are lovely and yes defo dry weather bikes 😀
Gravel riding in a "nut" shell ! Keep Safe! xx
I like that Brompton still includes a paper owner's manual.
Great informative video as always! 👍
Thank you and thanks you for watching
like the comparison video.
Many thanks!
That bike is a clever marketing ploy because they cannot get the parts from abroad in time to finish them off properly.
Glad I bought my 2 before covid struck. They have all the bits on them 😊
As a Dane I had absolutely no idea what "CHPT3" was (A Br. commercial for a local English Brand of some kind, I later found out?), but I like the red front. But when I bought my new Flame Painted, 6 gear, Golden Superlight in 2019, just before Brexit, in Copenhagen, it already had a titanium fork and - back and - now also a black T seat post (It's a Black Version). With slightly modified mudguards (it already had titanium stays) and room for some less weight/parts in Spring, which I have ready, I expect it to come below 9 kilo at least, even with ordinary S wheels, without Tubolito. I may change if I have a puncture at a time? 😄 Finn. Denmark
What are S wheels? 🤔
The lightest tires AFAIK that are also good for punctures are the Continental Contact Urban. Obviously you can get a very light Brompton but after a certain point you are just loosing practical functionality and not just lightening it up.
@@b.griffin317 S wheels refer to Superlight front wheels fitted to bikes previously named with an ‘X’ in their name, eg: S6L-X, H2R-X etc. Which Brompton logically changed to ‘P’ (logically = my sarcasm) the line name changes are confusing and stupid IMO.
@@platypushatstand "the line name changes are confusing and stupid IMO" 😂 yes. and they change every year it seems. 😂
@@b.griffin317 "Superlight", original wheels. And I have a Carbon handlebar to replace the original M and a black, original, security type, titanium seat post, on my bike. I have changed brake parts, nuts and bolts to titanium and have new clamps for my mudguards (original titanium stays), which are considerably lighter than the original from "Heavy Metal"! Nothing special and not like the original bike, so its function is just like an "original bike" just somewhat lighter. Also a titanium axle for the front wheel and round locking wheels with a security bolt, to lock and unlock the frame during use. I'm not able to totally unscrew and loose those, as originally! For now my bike is down to just over 9 kilo, and I hardly find it worth the money to buy a T line (with mudguards), and with only 4 gears, from my 6. Finn. Denmark
UK law states , you must have a rear red reflector and amber pedal reflectors, nothing to do with wheels or tyres 🙄
Interesting about the bag - I use that triangular space on the frame to run my lock through... Thanks for another great video
I would like one that emphasised "strong" over light for heavy riders (like myself) particularly for tough voluminous tyres to mitigate snake bite pinch punctures and lower ratios for hills
Love these chpt 3 bikes, several times tried to buy one but always sold out. Not paying silly money on eBay. Just have to put up with my standard Brompton. Love the videos, you are an excellent and entertaining presenter. Thanks
Available at quite a few places. I bought one two weeks ago.
They made loads this time they are sitting online mate
@@phillblake6829 thanks, will look into it
The Gatwick Express Brompton as I normally called it
😂😂😂
They’d sell a LOT of those frame pouches, the big question is where and when are they for sale?
Is everybody liking the tubolitos? I keep doing research and I hear a lot of stories about them but usually only get the negatives up front.
TBH I’d rather a standard tube, either and SV4 or AV4 depending on your valve type. I’ve just found they puncture too easily.
Thanks for watching!
@brilliantbikes Thank you SO very much! I realize you probably have a lot more experience than many other people
I can see you now on Mastermind specialising on The history and variations of all things Brompton . I started so I’ll finish.
I have this Chpt3 and it’s awesome. The pictures don’t do the colour justice. You’re basically paying an extra couple of hundred pounds for a P-line with better saddle, grips, tubes, custom paint job, ‘exclusive’ frame bag and no mudguards. Up to you if you think it’s worth it. Personally I’m not a fan of the glittery finish on the P-lines, so it definitely was.
FYI, I purchased a set of mudguards from Brilliant Bikes for it, but the front mudguard does not come with the nut and bolt to secure it to the front forks. They said they would try and find one and get back to me, but never did. You’ll have to try and source one somewhere else.
Cheers "Dave M" or should I David Millar, owner of CHPT3 for your completely unbiased input on this bike which isn't nothing but a blatant cash grab you and Brompton are flogging. p.s. change your youtube name next time.
I wish they would make a single speed brompton with a flip flop hub like a fixed gear it would be very easy and fast to fix a flat on the road. Right now I use a citizen milan and retrospect judd because those are single speeds,I do not trust the durability of the coaster brake on the judd tho wish it had a caliper brake like the citizen.
Thx for the video! Looking forward to the weight reduction video!
My friend bought the v4 from Brompton Junctions Singapore has an issue of lowering down the seat-post when folding the bike . Seat-post seems to be stuck need to lift up the rear tyre in order to lower down smoothly . Guess it is due to the absence of the mudguards.
It sounds like you need to adjust the locking block location. We are planning on making a video on this soon!
Tq for the reply ,Brompton Singapore had swapped his rear frame unfortunately the issues still persist.
looking forward on the how to lighten it video
I'd love that wedge bag for a wedge sandwich. Do you think they'll be made available for everyone at some point? One can only hope. They did make the CHPT3 sling available later. And the matchy-matchiness of the CHPT3s is fun. Do you get to keep this one?
Ah we bought this one and are keeping it 😀. Now the lightening mods start….
@@brilliantbikes I sensed a hint that you'd adopt this one. Weight weenies unite! So far I got my CHPT3v2 down to 9.7 kilos (even with a Brooks saddle, ahem, priorities). Looking forward to mods-videos. woot woot
Perempuan inggris
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Thanks for watching
I'm not familiar with the Brompton company setup these days' but I hope they include electric scooters in their portfolio so as to capitalise on this new trend and not lose out with their market share. Given their prowess for technical innovation and high quality manufacturing I'm sure they could improve on the basic concept to produce a superior product and be successful in this field too.
I have serious Tree envy.
We have been trying to make it breed!
@@brilliantbikes
I've been riding this bike for about a month th-cam.com/users/postUgkxwC0IIeIomGQVeBWg-kKJaToZkLEFIA2W and a half now and I think it's fantastic. It helps me get to work on time every day since I'm able to fit it inside of public transportation rush hour. The price is great too, people are always shocked when they ask me how much I paid for the fold up and I tell them "200". It's easy to fold and installation when it ships is insanely easy. All you have to install when the bike arrives is one foot pedal, everything else is done for you. I do recommend you carry some sort of wrench to tighten any loose screws on the handle bar and seat whenever they get a little bit loose. Other than that I think it's a fantastic bike. Easily fits in the home, can fit inside a car trunk and can even fit in subway rush hour.
Totally agree! Thanks for watching!
Will the frame bag be available to buy as an accessory?
Looks like I'll have to sell my frontside too afford one
@brilliantbikes Thanks so much for your videos! I enjoy them immensely.
Question: 9.87 vs 9.79 = -80 g after switching to a titanium fork, Tubolitos, and deleting mud guards? Per Brompton it should weigh 400 g less (9.9 vs 9.5 kg). I was considering the CHPT3 V4, but maybe not?
Now I'm all confused , my Brompton is a six speed with the two speed derailleur removed and an after market electric front wheel fitted. I think I'll call it an X Line.
Great video ! What does the CHPT 3 means or stand for? Thanks
Thanks for the video. I note that you tightened the Pentaclip to 10Nm. The manual says 15Nm which feels like it’s crushing the seat post. Which is correct, 10Nm or 15Nm?
Yes I’m so sorry! I thought at that point it was a superlight PentaClip, not a standard one.
The superlight should be done to 10Nm the standard of course 15Nm
Thanks for watching and correcting us
Why on earth does it not come with the handlebar grips already fitted?!
That saves you 50p.
I think the original P- line seems to make the new chpt 3 version 4 not really new other than different paint , not criticising just stating the obvious one thinks and who needs a wet bottom =answers on a postcard, it’s time for the song people = Sandwich = Cinko De Mayo .
Hello,
A very nice bike indeed... Do you think Brompton will ever sell the small sandwich bag (frame pouch) on its own? I would one...
Take care.
Paul,,
Knowing Brompton it's unlikely or if they do it'll be silly money like £60. However i'm sure some 3rd party supplier over in Asia will get on the ball very soon at a sensible price.
Great video! Actually the new CHPT3 V4 comes with an extended seat post not standard seat post.
Mine came with a standard seatpost
@@seamunki I think in the U.S. it comes with an extended seatpost.
Ah that makes sense as all the ones we had, had a standard seat post
@@brilliantbikes Indeed, I had to change mine to standard to accommodate the IKEA Dimpa bag.
The Video is Awesome like Always, to bad that the Bike isn't.
I think that it's the Worst CHP3 until now. To Many Colors without Plan, thrown together.
For the 3000 plus Price Tag, it's not worth it. The normal Grey P-Line could be made to a better CHP3 then this one with the same look.
Praise the Bike God's for the Aftermarket and its Awesome Tuning Parts that are available. 😆
Nice video. Best wishes. If they made the entire frame "Titanium" would that not save more weight? Although I prefer a steel brompton!
@Sonal Malhotra That’s the T-Line
@@platypushatstand Thanks on the update. I have not seen many bromptons in India probably cause they cost a lot more here due to import duties. best wishes.
Thanks both for watching!
@@brilliantbikes Thank U and great videos
Which one do you prefer?
TBH I like my sparkly black P Line 😀
I was expecting the new CHPT3 to be a skinned T Line. CHPT3 is supposed to be the top-of-line, right? That is why you would pay the premium. Unfortunately Brompton scarred their own sub-brand...
Limited production - what us the number being produced?
Next video: the proper way to eat a very small (and triangularly shaped!) sandwich while riding in the rain without mudguards 🤓
😂 thanks! It might be a little soggy….
@@brilliantbikes All part of the video! 🤣
If i am honest, it was a bit of a disappointment as it’s more or less a p line with a special color way. I was hoping they added more gears as people are modding the 4 speed to 5 and even 7 speed
On the first day I collected my CHPT3 V4 a month ago I had a puncture. No wonder the spare inner tube was included : (
Schwalbe marathon plus. Never had a puncture.
And when will Brompton have better batteries for its e-bike? My range is only 20 km.
they have no interest in fixing problems like these or the fact you can't change the power settings from the handle bars like pretty much 99% of other e-bikes. Or the poor issue prone derailleur system or the completely bodged 6 speed dual derailleur and hub system because they won't invest in a 6 speed hub. Instead of solving long running basic issues we just get them investing money in more colours or money grabs like this CHPT3.
Nice review but what makes the chpt3 v4 heavier than the standard P-line ? Considering the standard P-line 9.87kg, include rear rack, front & rear mudguard vs the CHPT# v4 9.79kg ?
Thats 9.87kg without the rear rack. It’s basically the same weight, it’s the lack of mudguards and different saddle, grips, tubes and frame bag that make the weight difference.
Do you know why they changed the P Line rims?
Would like to know what is the diff between the new p line wheels and the first release ones too? Mine was manufactured 2021 Nov. First batch?
It was just the rims that changed to the C Line rims, and I believe it was due to supply issues
@@Claricechan if you have Presta valve rims, those are the original P Line rims
Why is Brompton still using plastic wrapping, hasn't anybody told them?
Material for the stem? Ti or Steel?
Steel, only the forks and rear triangle are Titanium.
Too many different colours and finishes on one bike it looks a bit mad this time although the warm grey looks nice on the frame
It’s growing on me!
Don’t understand the introduction of a random bit of blue myself.
In the New York video some bikes have a teal/blue suspension block. Looks like it was dropped for production. And there is a CHPT 3 racer that has flashes of blue at seat post/bars.
@brilliantbikes any inside info on the dropping of the teal suspension block?
@@cmdctrl thanks for your reply
I did notice that on the NY vid. Would have made sense with that I guess.
I just don’t understand the sudden deviation from tradition.
Pentclip is not 10nm. It’s 16nm.
What a waste of time and resources for Brompton. Instead of these silly "editions" and shovelling even more money to David Millar they should be improving their existing range and making their bikes more affordable for us mere mortals.
They have become the Apple of bikes.
no one needs a lawnmower that big 😂
You haven't seen the size of my feckin' lawn!!!
Lol! We more or less live in a wood…. There’s no grass 😀.
@@brilliantbikes brilliant humour on the video, the outtakes make the whole thing! 🤣😊❤️
Suffocating bags😂
I always feel bag for them, and enjoy taking them off!
Weight concern ? Buy T 😂
Very true, thanks for watching!
rim brakes, wth
Sorry, CHPT3
No worries we guessed 😀
Is this a joke?
The joke is on us sadly. Still the 40 year old inner city trustafarian man children will happily snap this bike up at £3k a pop, you know the ones who still go round wearing the same skater gear they did when they were 16. They'll pay anything to pretend they are still hip and cool. It's so sad that all us regular Brommie owners want are better more affordable bikes but we get crap like this instead.
@@gibbson130it was 35 yr old in your other comment. You sound bitter, maybe you need a lightweight fun Brompton to ride around on to cheer you up.
@@gibbson130 try to relax 😂 it’s a bike you don’t have to buy one if you don’t like it 😂
@@gibbson130ow, would you like some more salt on those chips? I'm 47, ride a V3 Chpt3, and still wear edgy stuff like trainers and hoodies. I've also got an M6L electric too, for when I can't be arsed.
I'm glad I conform loosely to a type that seems to bother you so much. Justifies the £2250 I dropped on the V3 in Jan '21... especially as my previous two Bromptons just wouldn't have caused the same irritation.
Nonetheless, Brompton are masters at ignoring obvious design improvements. The M6L electric is an abysmal bit of design that really shouldn't have left prototype stage. But... they've been this way for years - my 2014 S2E had a steel headset FFS!!
Anyway, you keep on hating those that choose to dress or ride a certain way... irrational bitterness is such an endearing thing.
Love & Hugs
@@gibbson130 cheer up & buy yourself a A line, or is that too expensive too? Unfortunately, it's very rare things come down in price, but how is what other people do, or buy mean anything to you? I'm sure we'd all like a T line at £500 but it's not going to happen, instead of numerous comments (just on this thread), slagging off Brompton on Brilliant Bikes Brilliant Videos page, e-mail Brompton direct.
Ps I had a chopper when I was a teen, skater boys weren't in existence, your understanding of people & demographics is completely wrong