From Hell Comparison

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  • @lucasrocha5780
    @lucasrocha5780 3 ปีที่แล้ว +91

    The best way to collect it: doesn't matter, just read the story because it's one of the best things in comics ever.

    • @waltscomicshop
      @waltscomicshop 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      WORD

    • @turtleanton6539
      @turtleanton6539 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Omar both collects and reads alot.
      Also if you like vizbig you gotta get vagabond

    • @inaambilal6671
      @inaambilal6671 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@turtleanton6539 I'm reading Berserk rn. I have bought the first 3 deluxe editions. Yeah It's good to have a collection as beautiful as that thing

  • @waltscomicshop
    @waltscomicshop 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Loved the "It's about YOUR place in this world" bit!

  • @camerongodsey9847
    @camerongodsey9847 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    You can never go wrong with Alan Moore. The man is a master of the craft

  • @pavelr
    @pavelr 3 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    Some of the things mentioned here are incorrect. The reason for many of the redrawing is precisely because the original drawings *weren't* following Alan Moore's vision. Eddie Campbell originally made some decisions that weren't following the script, and later came to regret it. He redrew it in the Master Edition to more closely match the original vision & Moore's script. So the reason for the difference between the two versions is almost exactly the opposite of what's said at 16:00.

    • @PiterMorbid
      @PiterMorbid 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      And what's your source for this affirmation?

    • @pavelr
      @pavelr 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      @@PiterMorbid Eddie Campbell has a youtube video where he goes over the main changes in the master edition and explains what motivated them. He also appeared in several long interviews recently on youtube where he discusses the master edition.

  • @tyroneslothdrop9155
    @tyroneslothdrop9155 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I will definitely be getting the B&W version, much more atmospheric.

  • @DMM9619
    @DMM9619 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Alan moore sure knows how to write masterpiece after masterpiece 👌🏻🔥

  • @jerryatrick619
    @jerryatrick619 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    This book is one of the most unsettling things I’ve ever read. But it was so damn good and impossible to put down

  • @jamesarmstrong46
    @jamesarmstrong46 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Halfway through reading the Master Edition. Also have the b&w version. Much prefer it coloured. The dialogue can sometimes go a bit above my head but certainly a fascinating story with great art.

  • @simian5805
    @simian5805 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    A true classic. The colour is not bad...but for me the Black and White is just so much more suitable to the content. But I love dark, sketchy, scratchy, rough art.

    • @abc98114
      @abc98114 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah I like the black and white.

  • @greggoat6570
    @greggoat6570 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Arguably the best thing ever done in the comics medium, as far as I’m considered. No graphic novel deserves classification as literature more than this book.

  • @vincentimbesi3947
    @vincentimbesi3947 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    It’s nice to see a review of this book. I read the color version a few months back and I loved it! The new colors really add something to the story.

  • @TheDarkwitch08
    @TheDarkwitch08 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I agree,Omar,one of the best horror reads/artworks ever. I read Robert Bloch's Your's Truly... back in the early '80's and have been an ardent reader/follower of (horror) stories based on Jack ever since and this take has just gotta be my fave! And I finally added this new coloured version hardcover to my collection. Thanks for another excellent review, Omar.

  • @peybak
    @peybak 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Thanks for the review. I think I like the black & white version a little more.

  • @dhmcadams662
    @dhmcadams662 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I dont' know if it's a common thing or not but I find myself going back and looking up older videos I haven't seen or rewatching ones I have. lol, sometimes several times. I have the Master Edition on the way because of this video and can't wait to read it :)

  • @DaiKatana14
    @DaiKatana14 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Omar I highly recommend you Grandville by Bryan Talbot! :)
    "Integral edition" was released not too long ago.

  • @Dmitry___S.
    @Dmitry___S. 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Was just looking for this kind of video! Thanks!
    Will probably get the coloured version for maps. + it looks slimmer.

  • @sergioarroyo1923
    @sergioarroyo1923 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I really needed a side to side comparison. Thank you! I' ve never read From Hell, chances are I will go for the coloured version. And then, maybe some time I will get the original one. Thanks again!

  • @Kimota82
    @Kimota82 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Excellent video, Omar. Thank you! I recently purchased the color version of this masterpiece and was wondering what other elements may have been modified in its creation. I love Alan Moore's work and realize that he requires deep focus, so I haven't started it just yet. I'm still enjoying the afterglow of my first Watchmen reading experience. :D

  • @denisissakov
    @denisissakov 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    So, I bought a black and white version this summer. It also took me a month to read it. And I love it. I don't regret choosing the b&w version, I'm quite satisfied having only it.

    • @mphylo2296
      @mphylo2296 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      You shouldn’t regret choosing b&w. It was a deliberate stylistic choice and it’s very apparent the colouring was a revision. The basic colouring just doesn’t work with the rough looking artwork

  • @pcprincipal9889
    @pcprincipal9889 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    original is best IMO. Can't beat the gloom of the black and white. The 'scratchy' art style looks better in b&w, more like printed etchings which fits the Victorian period nicely

  • @drock6287
    @drock6287 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I’ve been curious about this one for awhile! Thanks, Omar

  • @hamzadawud
    @hamzadawud 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I have a paperback edition in the original black and white, but I really might get the Master Edition and just keep both versions.

  • @forsakenV12
    @forsakenV12 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    It is so refreshing seeing a review that doesn't deal with Marvel or DC. Very thorough review 👍
    Omar, would it possible to do a top 5 vampire Mangas or comics ?

  • @dimitris470
    @dimitris470 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you for this. It's good to see them side by side. Glossy paper always increases contrast. The original is mostly line-art, so glossy paper would just make the black look deeper, it wouldn't make the images clearer. The colored edition definitely benefits from the nicer paper, since the color and filled surfaces reduce contrast. Although the paper seems thinner (the book is noticeably thinner too) and definitely has some bleed-through (I noticed it in the maps pages). I am still wondering which one to pick. I like the colored better, but I think I will probably get the original for my collection. I hate bleedthrough, especially in books with graphics. It feels like budget getting precedence over art, especially for the 25ish% increase in price.

  • @Rtombooksart
    @Rtombooksart ปีที่แล้ว

    I ordered this book gonna come this week, ordered it after watching lots of flip thrus and reviews on you tube, but today just felt like hearing what you have to say about it, great work omar!! Much ❤love!

  • @mdb9920
    @mdb9920 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I bought the Master edition a few months ago and I tried to read it and I was lost immediately. Give me so hope to try again and that it will come together haha.

  • @Jakejesus
    @Jakejesus 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Ha! This is so strange! I was literally IN Whitechapel ON a Jack the Ripper tour at the time of you uploading this!
    I own the Master Ed. but was so lucky that this week I was able to buy a copy of the Hardback B&W edition from Reed Comics in the UK. I then rewatched the movie.
    Now my fav TH-camr uploads this. It's a Jack the Ripper sort of week, for me I guess!

  • @ondreibazant-fabre2164
    @ondreibazant-fabre2164 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I finally just bought and read a spanish edition from Editorial Planeta, in black and white. I wanted to know how the coloured version looked like, but I think that black and white serves better for this story in particular, the noir detective crime ridden city aspect, the darkness around and within.

  • @MarriedwithComics
    @MarriedwithComics 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for this video. I've been debating which version to buy and this helped a lot.

  • @waltscomicshop
    @waltscomicshop 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    It's nice that the new, full-color edition has brought this masterpiece to the attention of a whole new group of readers. And it's great that you're celebrating this gem and hopefully encouraging more people to read it. No, it's not a breezy read. But it will never let you go. Also, in this case it's totally OK to double-dip - the versions are so different and both have their merits.

  • @chibiloki
    @chibiloki 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Definitely need to pick this one up. I've never read it, but it looks fantastic. Thanks for the vid.

  • @HydefHyde
    @HydefHyde 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Having never read it before, I'm leaning towards the black and white version. Always wanted to check this out, probably will soon now! Great job and thanks as always Omar.

    • @stephenlee4820
      @stephenlee4820 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I have both. I prefer the colour version, found it more legible to read. And the colours are done brilliantly.

    • @hypersigil
      @hypersigil 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Black & white. 1000%. I know this book inside out. The colour detracts from the feel and atmosphere. It exists for one reason: to sell to people who don't look at b/w comics. There are exactly two comics I think are improved by a revisionist colouring: V For Vendetta and Akira (the Epic colouring).

    • @Ryan-iv5fr
      @Ryan-iv5fr 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@hypersigil Oh wow really? The colored version exists so people can read it in color? Who would’ve thought.

    • @mphylo2296
      @mphylo2296 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Ryan-iv5fr He’s saying it’s been made to sell to people like you. People who won’t touch a book without colour.

    • @Ryan-iv5fr
      @Ryan-iv5fr 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@mphylo2296 that's not the case, i read normal books as well as manga. You're just ignorant.

  • @chriskaufman2262
    @chriskaufman2262 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I agree 100%. I have both editions and at first scoffed at a revision but I took one look at the colored bloody scenes and it’s subtleness overall, I preferred it. It impressed me so much I later grabbed Alec by Eddie Campbell.

    • @waltscomicshop
      @waltscomicshop 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      ALEC ♥

    • @chriskaufman2262
      @chriskaufman2262 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@waltscomicshop I appreciate a sharp eye. I stand corrected.

  • @faatty1
    @faatty1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I just read master edition last week. Soooo fucking good

  • @nilulal545
    @nilulal545 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks for another gem of a recommendation ✨️

  • @emfrymcfly
    @emfrymcfly 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    From hell by Allan moor is also one of the most historical accurate story’s about Jack the Ripper, unlike the book by Stephen knight and the movie that are riddled with historical inaccuracies ( although both based on the same conspiracy theory) This video has me torn as to what book to pick up

  • @ecksdog
    @ecksdog ปีที่แล้ว

    Great comparison. Just what I was looking for. Thank you!

  • @samratsur8074
    @samratsur8074 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I bought the black and white thinking if I like it I would buy the color version. Got so disturbed by the graphic scenes that decided to stick to the black and white version.

    • @forsakenV12
      @forsakenV12 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I am contemplating which version to get and your feedback helps. Thank you.

  • @craigcamplin9580
    @craigcamplin9580 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The most important thing...the appendix...Omar, you're so funny!

  • @tomlabooks3263
    @tomlabooks3263 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent video , thanks for the comparison. I’m a great fan of black & white.

  • @MrJasonsean
    @MrJasonsean 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Stephen Knight's book Jack the Ripper the final solution was the inspiration for the story.

  • @TheArtOfB
    @TheArtOfB 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Planning on picking up the B&W version this October.

  • @nikola9753
    @nikola9753 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Idea for a Video: Ronin from Frank Miller and how it inspired TMNT

    • @MYTHNL90
      @MYTHNL90 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      And inspired Samurai Jack lol

    • @nikola9753
      @nikola9753 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MYTHNL90 Absolutely!

  • @Archonsx
    @Archonsx 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i'm enjoying the black and white more tbh, the old version of the black and white, it makes the atmosphere much more immersive

  • @erikbengtsson6772
    @erikbengtsson6772 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ima get this next year

  • @Fernand00T
    @Fernand00T 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have exactly that W&B version! i love it.

  • @clubgrubbug
    @clubgrubbug 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sean and I got to talk to Eddie about this for an ALA panel. It was totally mind boggling to me how badly haunted he is by his past work. He obsesses over his own perceieved failures and how to make them better.
    Interesting to think that an artist could spend a whole career just reworking one product. Not that that is what Eddie is doing, but is a wild idea, chasing perfection in one product.

  • @turtleanton6539
    @turtleanton6539 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great work by the great Alan more and also great video.

  • @davecironelibrarykid
    @davecironelibrarykid 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    The color version is NOT the way to go.
    --There are several panels that have been zoomed/cropped.
    -- Flat colored backgrounds change the vibe of the empty space composition.
    -- It's 10x creepier in the original black and white.

    • @davecironelibrarykid
      @davecironelibrarykid 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I just rewatched this video and wanted to leave the exact same comment I did before, but Alan Moore voodoo made me forget that I already did!

  • @DBZALLSTAR
    @DBZALLSTAR 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I want both! Lol I think this was a wonderful video to put together.

  • @danielgreen2788
    @danielgreen2788 ปีที่แล้ว

    A study or musings on Time AND the human spirit , above the blood and dirt lies trascendence for those brave enough to look for it

  • @A-Jams
    @A-Jams 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Yo Omar can u do a overview of the puma blues graphic novel? I saw it on your collection video and it sparked my intrest. I tried to find a video but I couldn’t find one that goes in depth like u do.

    • @NearMintCondition
      @NearMintCondition  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I have to read it. But I can when I do.

    • @A-Jams
      @A-Jams 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@NearMintCondition awesome! Sounds great

  • @bern1312
    @bern1312 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Definitely went and bought it after this video

  • @Rtombooksart
    @Rtombooksart ปีที่แล้ว

    I still remember I was reading about this book on wikipedia when I came across a picture of Youknowwho who is the ripper in the book, and yeah ruined the whole suspense thing.... But I didn't even care, with alan Moore it's not the ending or the twists but how you get there that you enjoy

  • @germaholic
    @germaholic 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Anyone else having binding issues with the master edition. On mine, the pages are slightly peeling off the ribbon, spine, whatever on the bottom, though the top is fine.

  • @user-lp8dg3vu2s
    @user-lp8dg3vu2s 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    How different are the dimensions of these books than regular HCs?

    • @chriskaufman2262
      @chriskaufman2262 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      These are the same size as the compendiums like Fables Irredeemable Rachel Rising Walking Dead etc. but in hardcover.

  • @tayronysilvamacielcosta5885
    @tayronysilvamacielcosta5885 ปีที่แล้ว

    Verygooooooood this comics Alam Moore.

  • @MegaSchremser
    @MegaSchremser 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I bought the original (disregarding the first few chapters being published in Taboo) eleven issue run from Mad Love Publishing as they were released in the 90's, so I'm biased towards the original. Since it was made for black-and-white, colouring takes away rather than add to it. It's almostlike when Turner Moves colourized some classic movies to make them "appeal to a modern audience": the end product was pretty disappointing.
    As for Campbells involvement in the colourization process and re-drawing some pages; Neal Adams has redrawn some of his artwork too, and I've yet to hear anyone say that was a good thing. Also, Moores scripts are usually extremely detailed when it comes to the art, so changing it wihout Moores involvement or approval doesn't seem right either. This is one of Moores most intricate, atmospheric and bleak works, and IMO should be read as was originally intended.
    Unfortunately I've also seen the movie, and not surprising I thought it was terrible.
    Ok, rant over!

  • @ryanlongden7330
    @ryanlongden7330 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Well, looks like this is going to be added to the collection lol

  • @pizzaking448
    @pizzaking448 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I honestly feel black and white is the superior experience. Adding color, ironically, actually takes something away...

  • @mikedestazador5116
    @mikedestazador5116 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have both band even though I prefer the original one I can see why people will be inclined towards the master edition

  • @frankheninja1
    @frankheninja1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Original black and white is the only moly way to go

  • @TreVader1378
    @TreVader1378 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The industrial Revolution happened over a hundred and fifty years before the events of this book.

    • @NearMintCondition
      @NearMintCondition  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      It ended in 1870. This story was a decade or two after that. So let’s not go balls out on dates. :)

    • @TreVader1378
      @TreVader1378 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@NearMintCondition I see, my bad.

    • @NearMintCondition
      @NearMintCondition  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      No worries.

  • @joshuahelmeke
    @joshuahelmeke 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I've been on the fence for years with this book. Thanks for this review. I'll pick up the Master Edition for sure.
    Has someone been playing a little bit too much FFX, lately? Can't say I blame you.

  • @Kor33Com
    @Kor33Com 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I've got both editions. Master Ed.got terrible binding. It's crap out during the first reading...It's very disappointing...But the story is one of the best.

  • @Lost_Highway2049
    @Lost_Highway2049 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What size are these? Are they both oversized?

  • @bassplayer2011ify
    @bassplayer2011ify 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I tried reading this a few years ago and I stopped for two reasons. One is I hate the art style there is something about it that is just grating to me (same reason I never finished the dark knight returns). Number two is shortly before I started reading I did serious dive into the ripper murders and found something out that really ruined the book for me. I won't say exactly what it is but I will say when this was written Moore based it one of many prominent (at the time) theories about who the ripper was. In the years sense this has come out the sadly the theory he chose has been disproven.

  • @teddybeer6206
    @teddybeer6206 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'll be getting the B&W edition. Far mor atmospheric to me

  • @williams3177
    @williams3177 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    P&B >>>>>>>>>>

  • @ancientonezero
    @ancientonezero 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So! Sold me another book, huh? I've hesitated over this one for a long time, but you just convinced me to pull the trigger.

  • @everythingfan9726
    @everythingfan9726 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hell yeah!

  • @Cyber666CyberpunkCybercrimeIts
    @Cyber666CyberpunkCybercrimeIts ปีที่แล้ว

    Now Face Me Nameless Demon

  • @ronswanson278
    @ronswanson278 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Abit of topic but how do you feel about Hickman leaving x-men

  • @RodrigoSanchez-ry7hr
    @RodrigoSanchez-ry7hr 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Paper quality is better in this edition than the Top Shelf paperback? Is the art better reproduced? Thinking of upgrading.

    • @dimitris470
      @dimitris470 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      A bit late, but the paper looks thinner in the colored edition. The book is also noticeably thinner. I do not have the books, but there is noticeable bleedthrough if you take a look into the maps pages. I don't know how this affects the entire book, but it's something that really bothers me

  • @dimifisher
    @dimifisher 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    What human nature man, this is surely about the birth of the twentieth century because this whole event is connected to the british empire, and for anyone who have seen only the movie, there is no connection at all, the novel is much more deep and better

  • @garrettchristensen8074
    @garrettchristensen8074 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice review but Allen Moore is horribly overrated. Chuck Dixen any day.

    • @NearMintCondition
      @NearMintCondition  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I’m trying to think besides Batman and some GL. What other same characters they both have written

    • @joshbarghest7058
      @joshbarghest7058 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@NearMintConditionswamp thing

    • @joshbarghest7058
      @joshbarghest7058 ปีที่แล้ว

      They're such different writers, but Dixon hasn't written any stories that are nearly as interesting or as relevant to comics as Moore, and I say this as someone who was introduced to comics by Knightfall through No Man's Land.

  • @tridat516
    @tridat516 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    1st 🥇

  • @bennthirteen3701
    @bennthirteen3701 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    sooooooooooooo wordy.

  • @olexiiy
    @olexiiy 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I only have Master edition, but looking on original BW art- it' so much better then coloured. The colours in the master ed are laid out so so so sloppy. Campbell definitely don't know much about digital painting.

  • @specialxk
    @specialxk 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Do ppl still watch tv in black and white? Thought so

    • @DMM9619
      @DMM9619 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Doesn’t seem to be hurting manga sales…

    • @paulelliott3220
      @paulelliott3220 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      It was published in black and white
      Perfect medium for this story

    • @specialxk
      @specialxk 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DMM9619 only because there no color for manga. If they did provide both options in Japan. Best believe the color everytime

    • @specialxk
      @specialxk 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@paulelliott3220 yea and the people have spoken and now it reprinted in color

    • @Emma-R
      @Emma-R 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Don’t compare art with a retard’s medium please. Manga, indy comics, artist’s editions, newspaper strip reprints, DC’s Noir line of comics, classic movies, modern movies like Sin City, Schindler’s List, The Lighthouse, Roma, and many more. All widely enjoyed, and use black and white to wonderful effect. Black and white art, though less popular than colored, has its place and is here to stay.
      And moreover, most people would say the colored version of From Hell is a step down from the earlier versions.

  • @klemenp.5453
    @klemenp.5453 ปีที่แล้ว

    Still don't see a proper reason for this blasphemy (colorization). *smh*