A book about Cuckolding | Darryl by Jackie Ess
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In this video we review of the debut novel by Jackie Ess, Darryl. This is a novel about cuckolding, power and exploration of ones gender and sexuality, it is thought provoking, unique and brilliant and you should all get yourself a copy and read it!
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I loved this video so much! Actually it makes me want to hang out with you guys.
Agree completely re: Darryl's very unfeminist perspective, and even Darryl is given a few moments of self-awareness about it. Like most of his insights, he can't quite stay with it. But he ought to. He says of Mindy that she "isn't really passive, she just likes to take it." Or maybe most explicitly in the KIT 2 chapter, that should have been called CABOODLE:
“I wish I could belong to a world of women, but I don’t. I belong to whatever’s beneath the world of men, which some people think is the world of women, but it isn’t at all. How could anyone look at someone like Kit and see that? If I thought women were weak, I would think that I, who am weak, was a woman. But women aren’t weak, Kit’s living proof. Some people are weak. So I’m in this null zone that has no name, I’ve fallen out of masculinity, but I never landed, just falling forever. I think I’m too much of a feminist to be trans. But some women are losers too, what if I was like them? That’s something to think about, I guess. I can’t rule that out. All the women in my world are actually pretty cool. What would a woman on my level be like?”
This is slightly edgy stuff which I definitely wouldn't want to project on trans people in general and certainly isn't my own experience of it. Darryl's extreme submissiveness and unstable identity seem to be incompatible with stopping anywhere. Falling forever...
Thank you, this is a really interesting and wonderful quote, which demonstrates just how good this book will be to reread.
It is also a great quote for demonstrating the interplay between Darryl's feminist and trans journey.
I would imagine that every trans experience while sharing some similarities would be different and unique and Darryl is such an extreme character to begin with. I think we should have more explicitly said that.
It would be really interesting to sit down and have a coffee or a meal with you and just chat, I'm sure we would get along really well.
I am mind blown by how you guys make longish videos that are so engaging. 🤯 I read my first LGBT book and I enjoyed it. I am mostly a fantasy fan but I sometimes read outside that. As a writer, I am doing a study on character work and development so I might check this out. The protagonist sounds really interesting.
Thank you, that's a lovely compliment. 🥰
I really enjoy character focused books myself (Nelle too, but she is a bit more of an omnivore); I'm starting to wonder if genre is important to me at all, I'm not sure, but I know characters are important.
There's quite a few good LGBT books out there, since I've made it a priority to read more of them I've been presently surprised by the quality. I think every author brings something different.
This is a really interesting and unique book, it would make an excellent study on how a character is built and developed. I hope you pick it up. 🙂
I'd be really interested if you did a video once you complete your study on character work and development.
I picked this up on a recommendation from one of your Friday reads. This was so strange! Plot wise it was like nothing I've ever read. Most of my focus while reading this (which I know you two touch on) is the book's heavy discussion on gender and sexual identity and hierarchal power in the bedroom and beyond into every day life. I also couldn't tell if I was supposed to believe everything that was happening since his ideas of reality felt so ... abstract and contradictory. And I agree with Nelle - part of the jarring experience of reading this book was that I normally would hate to read about these ideas of feminism and women, but it worked here. There are so many different angles to read this book from, and so many things to explore with it. I feel like it'd only get more interesting with a reread!
We're so glad you picked this one up, it's really unique isn't it?
I think Darryl was pretty unreliable, and all the stuff with Clive, I don't know what to think about that.
I think one of the things that makes Darryl's sexism tolerable is the he is clearly learning and exploring ideas and he's not being vocal about things, it's all internal.
We will both reread this book sooner rather than later. Very interesting.
Interesting one! I saw this on Kevvie’s channel and am very curious now
Kevvie's review was really interesting. I hope this book gets the publicity it deserves, it's so out there and interesting.
Ooooh, I'm excited for this!!!
This was such a wonderful book, very highly recommended.
Thank you for shouting out my video! I would not have read it had you not recommended it! It's such a brilliant novel. Really loved listening to your thoughts on it. Scott, the romance IS really cute! The scene where Darryl's crying at his doorstep about feeling gay for Bill, and Bill assures him, "But Darryl, we *are* gay." 😭😭😭 How can that not have you all in your feels?? I never thought to connect Darryl with the Damsel in Distress trope, but now that it's been said I totally see it! Can't see it any other way now. Wholeheartedly agree that everyone and their mother MUST read Darryl!
Thank you. Your review really influenced the topics we decided to discuss.
I am being mean because I'm criticising Bill's journey and realisation of his sexuality... But I'm still not sure, if a woman treated me like Bill treated Darryl I would think she didn't like me, and I think this might be down to how shit men are that they set a very low bar and I'm judging Bill on the woman scale and not the man.
I sent this over to Jackie and Christoph (who runs Clash Books) too :)
Thank you! I really hope we help get the word out there for this book.
Quick question: what does Darryl’s wife think about all this? Feels a bit cringey from her perspective. Does he “let” her do this for him or “make” her do this for him or do they decide together to do this? Does he see himself in partnership with his wife at all or is she only seen in relation to his needs?
She has plenty of agency and while Darryl certainly doesn’t centre her I didn’t feel ick about it at all because she is very clearly exploring her own thoughts and feelings about her sexuality.
Darryl is very focussed on Darryl though.
A likeable Holden. Hmmm... I am suspicious. hahah. This novel just keeps getting more and more strange the more I hear about it. I have no idea if it sounds hilarious or unbelievably sad. Haha. Maybe I have to read it, but that relationship with Bill does not sound "adorable." 😂
This novel is strange, but in a good way. Darryl is a unique character, cuckolding is a topic I've never read about, and it just goes to new places.
Ignore Nelle, it's nothing like Catcher in the Rye except that they use the same narrative structure.
It's both hilarious and sad, a bit of a dark comedy.