Sure, sure, I agree with you hosts, but ofc the opposite is still true & the hosts are just afraid to hear it! - lol I just love the accusation that the hosts refuse to listen to Xian arguments, when that is literally their job description! To listen to claims by theists & investigate them. Afraid to hear the truth - my ash!
@@LOwens-xf8yowell, if you've heard the same argument for as long as they have, if it's not new, it's not worth thinking about. People have been discussing these things for a LONG time, and it's about time for the theist side to being EVIDENCE.
@@LOwens-xf8yoI've heard this exact line of arguments on this show multiple times already. They regurgitate the same arguments ad nauseam. The issue is they always refuse to present any actual evidence for their claims.
It says something that if one should leave the definition of "true believer" up to a number of professed "true believers", then there's going to be no true believers anywhere in the world because every true believer has their own list of what parts of the bible they pay attention to, and those they ignore.
It's truly amazing how many excuses religion will make up to explain why their magical infinite all Powerful God *can't* do something simple like show up but then say God *can* do anything complex like make a universe
@@Kellie08 Faith is surrender to the fact that we are all sinners in need of God's grace and mercy. Open your eyes. If a man says he has never done wrong/sinned he is a liar, and the truth is not in him. We are not sinners because we sin, we sin because we are sinners. Our actions/behavior have proven it time and time again. THOSE WHO DON'T BELIEVE THAT ARE IN DENIAL. HOPE! This evil, broken, sinful world offers no hope. Jesus Christ/God offers hope, peace, and joy to those that believe and are saved, by grace through faith. No religion needed.
It amazes me how many callers will concede the hosts’ points, then go right back to trying to make their original points-even after that point-by their own recognition-has been questioned, if not outright refuted.
It’s due to their belief perseverance and confirmation bias. They were brainwashed into believing this Biblical shit, so empirical evidence really doesn’t matter to them since it goes against everything they have based their entire existence on.
@@syntheticskystudios7325 It's because they've been taught how to "preach" and not skeptically argue. They've come to preach, and part of preaching is learning to ignore criticism and keep up the rabble, for the ones who are suspectable to it at that moment. The dialogue isnt for the caller, is for the audience to 3rd person view how they sound outside themselves. 'Oh...that's...that sounds really illogical...why did he say that? That's not a rebuttal at all to what the host said? And to realize, they've been doing that *too*.
Literally every time i try to engage honestly and ask the basic questions of: Demonstrate your god exists, what it is, how you know it’s the one you believe in, how it came to exist, how it created anything, why it can’t show itself, and how they know anything they’ve been told about is accurate. They never even attempt to answer honestly. They just deflect and then act like children. Because they know they have nothing. Some are bots. A lot of them know their god is nonsensical because rather than engage honestly they mention trans people, their disdain for nonbelievers, and other scripted deflections.
@@AmericaTheSimpleMindedBut you are being unfair. You ask them to demonstrate that their god exists. That's so unreasonable. How are they going to demonstrate something that doesn't exist and is just a character in the stories?
"The bible is true! So listen to me with respect, do what I tell you to do, live your life the way I tell you to live and give me money!" "I speak for the bible which means I speak for god, so OBEY ME!"
@@sidecarmisanthrope5927 Faith is surrender to the fact that we are all sinners in need of God's grace and mercy. Open your eyes. If a man says he has never done wrong/sinned he is a liar, and the truth is not in him. We are not sinners because we sin, we sin because we are sinners. Our actions/behavior have proven it time and time again. THOSE WHO DON'T BELIEVE THAT ARE IN DENIAL. HOPE! This evil, broken, sinful world offers no hope. Jesus Christ/God offers hope, peace, and joy to those that believe and are saved, by grace through faith. No religion needed.
I love the callers that are like this. They are willing to have an honest conversation. When he gave his evidence and they could pick it apart, he realized they had a point. Even if they leave the call without a change in mind and they still are going to believe in their religion, they still had an honest conversation
I would just like to know, in the Exodus story, which was the Pharoah not mentioned by name in the bible text. I would then be able to check the historical evidence he and his army was destroyed in the Red Sea.
@@CoolhandLukeSkywalkr Thank you...did some follow up..Mummy discovered in 1881, and identified from his coffin hieroglyphics in 1886. Mummy is now located in the Luxor Museum. I guess he didn't get drowned in the Red Sea.🤔 So much for the Exodus story of the parting of the Red Sea.
@@CoolhandLukeSkywalkr Thank you for your summary of events. It is disappointing none of the skeptic sites present the facts to apologists for their comment. Next time I hear the exodus story I now have the facts to present.
Christianity would collapse without the bible's extraordinary claims. However, the bible's extraordinary claims provided me with a good reason to doubt its authenticity. The idea of going to church, and communicating with an invisible entity, seems somewhat bizarre to me. Does the fact that it gets noisy in foxholes explain why god doesn't respond to requests?
@@samuelschick8813 It's certainly crazy to have to believe in god, in order to fear the consequences of not believing in god. Yet, that is the bizarre rationale of Christianity. There is no data to suggest that theists get bullet protection in foxholes 🤣
@@F38U Faith is surrender to the fact that we are all sinners in need of God's grace and mercy. Open your eyes. If a man says he has never done wrong/sinned he is a liar, and the truth is not in him. We are not sinners because we sin, we sin because we are sinners. Our actions/behavior have proven it time and time again. THOSE WHO DON'T BELIEVE THAT ARE IN DENIAL. HOPE! This evil, broken, sinful world offers no hope. Jesus Christ/God offers hope, peace, and joy to those that believe and are saved, by grace through faith. No religion needed.
This respectful conversation, I believe, was due mainly to the respectful, honest and open nature of the caller. He disarmed the hosts because they could not knock down somebody who is truly and sincerely defending his faith but has shows respect and openness for the views of the hosts. The hosts also did a magnificent job of respectfully disagreeing and pointing to facts that counter his. Magnificent program. If people could only follow this example.
How do you know who is the Messiah? Look at the scriptures and make a list of all the qualities and characteristics of the Messiah and see who fits 1. the Messiah will be known the world over during his lifetime 2. (already failed the first test so we can stop here)
Roy from Illinois? I envy his rhyming with his location. I'd have to be Leopold or Harold. But I'd also have to have switched to that when I moved to Southwold. Also it would mean lots of same name people in each town.
That's completely untrue. Rather, multiple groups of Canaanite became the Hebrew and one group was Mesopotamian Canaanites and they lived in Mesopotamian from the age of Sargon until the age of Hammurabi when they would have built up a presence in the Sinai. Yes, they borrowed from Mesopotamian lore to "improve" the moses narrative. Mesopotamian Canaanites have a right to be influenced by Mesopotamian culture and folklore. That's not a ripoff. It's some of the oldest alphabetic writing in history. Learn how oral tradition works.
@@dontburstmybubble686Sargon was a ruler whose power extended into early bronze age Canaan. Because of his power, some Canaanites migrated to Mesopotamian during his reign, likely searching for more fertilie farm land. Likely they were expelled during Hammurabi yet they retained early bronze age Canaanite and Mesopotamian beliefs into the late bronze age. This group joined up with the Shasu, expelled Hyksos and other Amorite tribes and they conquered Canaan and became the Hebrews.
I'm glad I don't have that, but my brain does begin to become numb when I hear the same tired points and nonsense arguments. I wonder why I watch this stuff.
Personal experiences are simply that: personal. There is nothing (or perhaps nothing) in another's personal experience that can be experienced or examined by anyone else. Thus, it can only convince the one who experienced them (probably due to a lack of skepticism in the face of the internal perception). Others may be Persuaded by that person's testimony, but others cannot examine or evaluate the personal experience of the one reporting it.
How shocking is it that the sequel to a book is consistent with the original?! That’s what sequels are all about, using the same characters & settings, to further the OG narrative while telling a new story.
16:18 I think the problem with this statement is that "being rational" is not a quality that can be applied in an essentialistic way. Rationality is a tool, that we sometimes use, because we are capable of it sometimes. But most of the time, we heuristically solve our problems and issues. "Being rational" is just not a valid statement. Religious people, even those who apply rationality in all other aspects of their lives, are living proof of this.
He naturally gravitated to an ancient book as a child. It wasn’t that he was a victim of enculturation. I think his special rules of credibility for the ancient religious book explains that enculturation has built a psychological prison in his mind. One the he isn’t ready to escape from.
There has never been any framework of Christianity that makes any sense. As a conscious being, it is your duty to reject things that don’t make sense. I can see how the story of Jesus makes logical sense, but it looks like the guy was trying to CHANGE the abrahamic conception of “God,” and standing up AGAINST a brutal theocratic society. You’d think that making his famous “sacrifice” would’ve shown us that it’s important to love something more than ourselves. But no. Rather than understand any logical point to what he supposedly did, we worship his magical God powers and think it was just a payoff of the debt owed to his bloodthirsty daddy. 🤮
Romans and their gods: Victories were often attributed to the favor of the gods, especially Mars, the god of war. Many Romans believed that the gods intervened in their daily lives, both positively and negatively. Performing sacrifices and prayers was seen as a way to communicate with and honor the gods. Stories and myths about the gods were passed down through generations, reinforcing their existence.
40,000 christian denominations, and they all differ about the properties of God and what God demands. Which one is right? What is the ONE set of essentials for the ONE God that ALL christians MUST believe to have a chance to go to Heaven?
At the deepest level I cling Desperately to fairy tale level of biblical myths because x-tianity promises me immortality and since at least, im subconsciously terrified of a natural death, my coping mechanism religiosity staves off my Fear which i would be exposed to if i let go of my faith....
When I was indoctrinated into Christianity. I remember them telling me that the BUYBULL was the absolute word of god. That primed me to be like wow this book is from god and I can read it. How amazing was that. I thought at the time. Not knowing anything as a kid. They also said start in the New Testament don't read the Old Testament. LMFAO. It changed everything for me. I was just a teen didn't know any better and I fell for it. But over time I learned more and more new things about the facts of life and how it did not match up with the BUYBULL at all. I think it is so sneaky to hide things in one's religion to hook others with surface BS. It's like recruiting for the mob. Oh this guy is great man he treats all of us wonderful. Pays well and very loyal. But he did murder few guys and torture them. WHAT?
"Atlas Shrugged is fiction that is presented as fiction. The bible and the Qur'an are fiction that are presented as truth. Big difference." -Anonymous-from an Objectivist forum
the first two minutes is a very good example for the justification of the position of mythicists. paul read the old testament and created peshers from the old testament to fullfill these prophecies. jesus (supposedly) came to paul, and others through revelation. it's not that complicated !
If we ever did invent a time machine and visited the time of the bible stories we'd give the isrealites the biggest belly laugh since Moses tripped and dropped the stone tablets on his foot (that, by the way, is the real reason why he ordered so many of his followers to be slaughtered) not for worshipping a golden beef burger.
Better yet...take a basic course in the history of the world's religions. Humans were making up all sorts of stories about the birth and death of various gods. Several religions' stories have been 'borrowed' from other religions. Study the history of Zoroastrianism. That's where we got the idea of lives after death.
Can I ask why the Giants had to be killed when the Jewish escaped their slavery? I never understood. This is an old conversation, but I am curios. To me, the next time someone wants you to kill for God, you might use this story to convince others to kill in God's name. Could this be accurate based off the concerns to kill Giants to take the land? Why did these Giants deserve to die? Because didn't like them? Jewish folks in that time didn't need to know more than just kill Giants for land, don't be discouraged or dare disobey? I never understood this looking at the 'Green Giant' wondering about world hunger and why Giants would need to die. Also, child are into stories of Giants. IDK.
Some archeological back up? The hate that liberals/atheists have for Christ is truly healing and liberating for Christians, like me, thanx. "If they hate me, they will hate you----Jesus.
To know God truly - in so far as this is possible - is incomparably superior to the philosophy of the Greeks, and simply to know what place man has in relation to God surpasses all their wisdom. For man alone among all terrestrial and celestial beings is created in the image of his Maker, so that he might look to God and love Him and be an initiate and worshipper of God alone, and so that he might preserve his own beauty by his faith in God and his devotion and affection towards Him, and might know that whatever is found on earth and in the heavens is inferior to himself and is completely void of intelligence.
@het53 Nothing but dishonesty from believers, making assertions thay cannot demonstrate as true. Thanks for demonstrating your dishonesty, gullibility, and willful ignorance.
GLORY!!!'m favoured, $140K every 3weeks! And I am retired i can now give back to the locals in my community and also support God's work and the church. God bless America🇺🇸❤️
Hello, how do you achieve such biweekly returns? As a single parent i haven't been able to get my own house due to financial struggles, but my faith in God remains strong.
But when your naked before God with all your thoughts and actions before you who will save you how will your so called wisdom help. The Bible says the gospel is foolishness to them that perish. Its a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.
We do? Many of the cast fields of science are all about observing and understanding the natural world. Reading a book isn't listening to nature, studying it is.
The classic creationist strategy of conceding to the hosts' point but not changing your argument
Some beliefs are deep rooted and take a while to be chipped away.
😂 flawless strategy
Sure, sure, I agree with you hosts, but ofc the opposite is still true & the hosts are just afraid to hear it! - lol
I just love the accusation that the hosts refuse to listen to Xian arguments, when that is literally their job description! To listen to claims by theists & investigate them. Afraid to hear the truth - my ash!
@@LOwens-xf8yowell, if you've heard the same argument for as long as they have, if it's not new, it's not worth thinking about. People have been discussing these things for a LONG time, and it's about time for the theist side to being EVIDENCE.
@@LOwens-xf8yoI've heard this exact line of arguments on this show multiple times already. They regurgitate the same arguments ad nauseam. The issue is they always refuse to present any actual evidence for their claims.
It says something that if one should leave the definition of "true believer" up to a number of professed "true believers", then there's going to be no true believers anywhere in the world because every true believer has their own list of what parts of the bible they pay attention to, and those they ignore.
Ditto for a number of other religions based on "sacred" texts.
Stan Lee was the last authority on "True Believers"
Once caller Roy refers to Islam, Hinduism, etc. as "pagan religions" he has shown you his hand, his bias (to put it kindly).
It's truly amazing how many excuses religion will make up to explain why their magical infinite all Powerful God *can't* do something simple like show up but then say God *can* do anything complex like make a universe
More sad than amazing.
The Christian mental gymnastics should be an Olympic sport.
@@Kellie08 Faith is surrender to the fact that we are all sinners in need of God's grace and mercy. Open your eyes. If a man says he has never done wrong/sinned he is a liar, and the truth is not in him. We are not sinners because we sin, we sin because we are sinners. Our actions/behavior have proven it time and time again. THOSE WHO DON'T BELIEVE THAT ARE IN DENIAL. HOPE! This evil, broken, sinful world offers no hope. Jesus Christ/God offers hope, peace, and joy to those that believe and are saved, by grace through faith. No religion needed.
It amazes me how many callers will concede the hosts’ points, then go right back to trying to make their original points-even after that point-by their own recognition-has been questioned, if not outright refuted.
mindless drone babble
It’s due to their belief perseverance and confirmation bias. They were brainwashed into believing this Biblical shit, so empirical evidence really doesn’t matter to them since it goes against everything they have based their entire existence on.
Indoctrination is hard to break away from
@@syntheticskystudios7325 It's because they've been taught how to "preach" and not skeptically argue.
They've come to preach, and part of preaching is learning to ignore criticism and keep up the rabble, for the ones who are suspectable to it at that moment.
The dialogue isnt for the caller, is for the audience to 3rd person view how they sound outside themselves.
'Oh...that's...that sounds really illogical...why did he say that? That's not a rebuttal at all to what the host said? And to realize, they've been doing that *too*.
1:48 "As a Theist I get very confused..." Full stop and no shit Sherlock.
Dumb comment
Saruman will return to Isengard because the Lord of the Rings is such a flowing, congruent script. It must be true. 🤣🇦🇺👍
Have anyone noticed. the christian trolls are just post and run
Literally every time i try to engage honestly and ask the basic questions of:
Demonstrate your god exists, what it is, how you know it’s the one you believe in, how it came to exist, how it created anything, why it can’t show itself, and how they know anything they’ve been told about is accurate.
They never even attempt to answer honestly. They just deflect and then act like children.
Because they know they have nothing. Some are bots. A lot of them know their god is nonsensical because rather than engage honestly they mention trans people, their disdain for nonbelievers, and other scripted deflections.
Yeah they don't really ever back up their arguments.
@@AmericaTheSimpleMindedBut you are being unfair. You ask them to demonstrate that their god exists. That's so unreasonable. How are they going to demonstrate something that doesn't exist and is just a character in the stories?
They can't back up what they say, they know this, and they don't care. This is just more evidence of the weakness and invalidity of their beliefs.
@@ChallengeYourBeliefs My comment was deleted for some reason. I only know it was here from your response
An honest caller truly trying to figure his way as best he can. How refreshing, no knee jerk reflex but not likely to reject what he has been taught.
That was a nice calm chat for a change 😂 Great Show.
"The bible is true! So listen to me with respect, do what I tell you to do, live your life the way I tell you to live and give me money!" "I speak for the bible which means I speak for god, so OBEY ME!"
Well now that you put it that way........
I’m presuming this is a joke
@@sidecarmisanthrope5927 Faith is surrender to the fact that we are all sinners in need of God's grace and mercy. Open your eyes. If a man says he has never done wrong/sinned he is a liar, and the truth is not in him. We are not sinners because we sin, we sin because we are sinners. Our actions/behavior have proven it time and time again. THOSE WHO DON'T BELIEVE THAT ARE IN DENIAL. HOPE! This evil, broken, sinful world offers no hope. Jesus Christ/God offers hope, peace, and joy to those that believe and are saved, by grace through faith. No religion needed.
A productive and respectful conversation on both sides! Rare and great to see.
Y'all are so patient
I love the callers that are like this. They are willing to have an honest conversation. When he gave his evidence and they could pick it apart, he realized they had a point.
Even if they leave the call without a change in mind and they still are going to believe in their religion, they still had an honest conversation
I would just like to know, in the Exodus story, which was the Pharoah not mentioned by name in the bible text. I would then be able to check the historical evidence he and his army was destroyed in the Red Sea.
Ahmose I. Multiple expulsions of Hyksos aka Avarians. Later, reinterpreted in the moses narrative.
@@CoolhandLukeSkywalkr Thank you...did some follow up..Mummy discovered in 1881, and identified from his coffin hieroglyphics in 1886. Mummy is now located in the Luxor Museum. I guess he didn't get drowned in the Red Sea.🤔 So much for the Exodus story of the parting of the Red Sea.
@@CoolhandLukeSkywalkr Thank you.
@@Skeptic236 So they wanted a nice story to tell. It's understandable to want to reframe an expulsion.
@@CoolhandLukeSkywalkr Thank you for your summary of events. It is disappointing none of the skeptic sites present the facts to apologists for their comment. Next time I hear the exodus story I now have the facts to present.
Christianity would collapse without the bible's extraordinary claims. However, the bible's extraordinary claims provided me with a good reason to doubt its authenticity. The idea of going to church, and communicating with an invisible entity, seems somewhat bizarre to me. Does the fact that it gets noisy in foxholes explain why god doesn't respond to requests?
You have 2 school of tought: 1 prays for the world and never gets heard, the other prays for himself and somehow it always works. Wonder why
@@F38U The second person should take the foxhole test, in order to prove that god genuinely listens to his prayers.
Religion would collapse if people used critical thinking skills when it comes to their religion.
@@samuelschick8813 It's certainly crazy to have to believe in god, in order to fear the consequences of not believing in god. Yet, that is the bizarre rationale of Christianity. There is no data to suggest that theists get bullet protection in foxholes 🤣
@@F38U Faith is surrender to the fact that we are all sinners in need of God's grace and mercy. Open your eyes. If a man says he has never done wrong/sinned he is a liar, and the truth is not in him. We are not sinners because we sin, we sin because we are sinners. Our actions/behavior have proven it time and time again. THOSE WHO DON'T BELIEVE THAT ARE IN DENIAL. HOPE! This evil, broken, sinful world offers no hope. Jesus Christ/God offers hope, peace, and joy to those that believe and are saved, by grace through faith. No religion needed.
17:30. It's like a person saying "the state (or country) I live in is the BEST" - "okay how many other places have you lived?" - "None....."
This respectful conversation, I believe, was due mainly to the respectful, honest and open nature of the caller. He disarmed the hosts because they could not knock down somebody who is truly and sincerely defending his faith but has shows respect and openness for the views of the hosts. The hosts also did a magnificent job of respectfully disagreeing and pointing to facts that counter his. Magnificent program. If people could only follow this example.
How do you know who is the Messiah? Look at the scriptures and make a list of all the qualities and characteristics of the Messiah and see who fits
1. the Messiah will be known the world over during his lifetime
2. (already failed the first test so we can stop here)
Jesus was unknown outside Judea..No real evidence he travelled the world.
Roy from Illinois?
I envy his rhyming with his location.
I'd have to be Leopold or Harold. But I'd also have to have switched to that when I moved to Southwold.
Also it would mean lots of same name people in each town.
More people need to talk about how the origin of Moses is a straight rip-off of Sargon who predates Moses by almost a thousand years.
When you do they don’t care. This is about feelings for them not facts.
I'm interested in hearing about sargon.
That's completely untrue. Rather, multiple groups of Canaanite became the Hebrew and one group was Mesopotamian Canaanites and they lived in Mesopotamian from the age of Sargon until the age of Hammurabi when they would have built up a presence in the Sinai. Yes, they borrowed from Mesopotamian lore to "improve" the moses narrative. Mesopotamian Canaanites have a right to be influenced by Mesopotamian culture and folklore. That's not a ripoff. It's some of the oldest alphabetic writing in history. Learn how oral tradition works.
@@dontburstmybubble686Sargon was a ruler whose power extended into early bronze age Canaan. Because of his power, some Canaanites migrated to Mesopotamian during his reign, likely searching for more fertilie farm land. Likely they were expelled during Hammurabi yet they retained early bronze age Canaanite and Mesopotamian beliefs into the late bronze age. This group joined up with the Shasu, expelled Hyksos and other Amorite tribes and they conquered Canaan and became the Hebrews.
@@CoolhandLukeSkywalkr
Oral tradition is famously unreliable.
My vertigo is getting worse every time those theist go in circles. It's becoming sadly very painful🤕
You called?
I'm glad I don't have that, but my brain does begin to become numb when I hear the same tired points and nonsense arguments. I wonder why I watch this stuff.
@@Gandhi_Physiqueintellectual honesty? As long as you listen to undiluted to discussions like this, you do a good job at avoiding an echo chamber.
@@denverarnold6210 I didn't finish the video before I commented, so no. In most cases, it is pure dishonesty, so still no.
@@Gandhi_Physique some people just can't take a compliment...
In Harry Potter 3 someone makes a prophecy that is fulfilled in 4. That does not prove the truth of either.
Irish freedom fighters dreamt of an independent Ireland long before it happened.
Not sure we should call them prophets 😂
Personal experiences are simply that: personal. There is nothing (or perhaps nothing) in another's personal experience that can be experienced or examined by anyone else. Thus, it can only convince the one who experienced them (probably due to a lack of skepticism in the face of the internal perception). Others may be Persuaded by that person's testimony, but others cannot examine or evaluate the personal experience of the one reporting it.
How shocking is it that the sequel to a book is consistent with the original?! That’s what sequels are all about, using the same characters & settings, to further the OG narrative while telling a new story.
16:18 I think the problem with this statement is that "being rational" is not a quality that can be applied in an essentialistic way. Rationality is a tool, that we sometimes use, because we are capable of it sometimes. But most of the time, we heuristically solve our problems and issues. "Being rational" is just not a valid statement. Religious people, even those who apply rationality in all other aspects of their lives, are living proof of this.
It took me a long time to "unlearn" (most of my) attitudes I had "learned" throughout my life.
You couldn’t help that. You were indoctrinated
He naturally gravitated to an ancient book as a child. It wasn’t that he was a victim of enculturation. I think his special rules of credibility for the ancient religious book explains that enculturation has built a psychological prison in his mind. One the he isn’t ready to escape from.
There has never been any framework of Christianity that makes any sense. As a conscious being, it is your duty to reject things that don’t make sense.
I can see how the story of Jesus makes logical sense, but it looks like the guy was trying to CHANGE the abrahamic conception of “God,” and standing up AGAINST a brutal theocratic society.
You’d think that making his famous “sacrifice” would’ve shown us that it’s important to love something more than ourselves. But no. Rather than understand any logical point to what he supposedly did, we worship his magical God powers and think it was just a payoff of the debt owed to his bloodthirsty daddy. 🤮
We know who wrote the cherry tree story. We know for a fact that it is not true.
The origin of the cherry-pickin' fallacy.
One of the few intelligent, non-delusional callers - the kind of person you can have a genuine conversation with
We don’t get many callers like this one.
"I'm totally aware of that..." "I totally agree with you...'"
Romans and their gods:
Victories were often attributed to the favor of the gods, especially Mars, the god of war.
Many Romans believed that the gods intervened in their daily lives, both positively and negatively.
Performing sacrifices and prayers was seen as a way to communicate with and honor the gods.
Stories and myths about the gods were passed down through generations, reinforcing their existence.
No Roy, you're wrong
ease up… this guy was very respectful
I find it fascinating that this type of caller always "feel" like they're right; they never "feel" like they're wrong
@@darthbog2125you feel like you’re right when you dont believe someone else’s faith is correct, dont you? whats the difference
@@coleworld2429evidence…
@@coleworld2429 no, I don't
40,000 christian denominations, and they all differ about the properties of God and what God demands.
Which one is right? What is the ONE set of essentials for the ONE God that ALL christians MUST believe to have a chance to go to Heaven?
8:40 I would say the supernatural doesnt exist, because if it exists we could measure which would make it part of the natural world.
Correct we have no contemporary historical records or evidence of Jesus from the reign of Augustus or Tiberius Caesar.
Of course he thought his connection was natural, he’s had so little experience of anything out his bubble.
Gotta say I saw Washington chop down a cherry tree.
In the 90's game Day of the Tentacle 😅
My mother predicted she would have a son and here I am !
It follows immediately that my mother was inspired by Zeus.
Therefore Zeus exists.
At the deepest level I cling Desperately to fairy tale level of biblical myths because x-tianity promises me immortality and since at least, im subconsciously terrified of a natural death, my coping mechanism religiosity staves off my Fear which i would be exposed to if i let go of my faith....
This is what religion does to people. Use your mind. Believe in yourself. Things will be the same if you believe or not.
typology?
All I want is the same type of evidence for Yahweh as I have for elephants existing. It's pretty simple. Give me real world evidence or don't bother.
Same goes for Christianitys claims. I don't want Bible verses. Give me real world scientific proof..
When I was indoctrinated into Christianity. I remember them telling me that the BUYBULL was the absolute word of god. That primed me to be like wow this book is from god and I can read it. How amazing was that. I thought at the time. Not knowing anything as a kid. They also said start in the New Testament don't read the Old Testament. LMFAO. It changed everything for me. I was just a teen didn't know any better and I fell for it. But over time I learned more and more new things about the facts of life and how it did not match up with the BUYBULL at all. I think it is so sneaky to hide things in one's religion to hook others with surface BS. It's like recruiting for the mob. Oh this guy is great man he treats all of us wonderful. Pays well and very loyal. But he did murder few guys and torture them. WHAT?
"Atlas Shrugged is fiction that is presented as fiction. The bible and the Qur'an are fiction that are presented as truth. Big difference."
-Anonymous-from an Objectivist forum
Sorry, how was anything in this video about "...not a TRUE Christian" as stated in the title of the video ?
Might have been a mix up with another throwback they plan on posting. It happens sometimes
Yeah, unfortunately titles aren’t AXP’s strong point.
@@alamunez Agree. Would like if they'd put Disclaimers up for some callers. "CAUTION : contains Darth Dawkins. Serious IQ Damage May Result."
"I have not studied other 'pagan' religions" lololol
the first two minutes is a very good example for the justification of the position of mythicists.
paul read the old testament and created peshers from the old testament to fullfill these prophecies. jesus (supposedly) came to paul, and others through revelation.
it's not that complicated !
Hope your eye is ok MaT!!
I think it was his brain. He could switch the patch to either side.
Isn't the no lying Lincoln.. ya know "Honest Abe" is the trop.
Both Washington and Lincoln had stories of the type.
It's cute when religieboys use big words they don't understand. 🤣
If we ever did invent a time machine and visited the time of the bible stories we'd give the isrealites the biggest belly laugh since Moses tripped and dropped the stone tablets on his foot (that, by the way, is the real reason why he ordered so many of his followers to be slaughtered) not for worshipping a golden beef burger.
Adverse reaction to spinning motion
a personal experience .. why im not surprised . same old excuse.
Better yet...take a basic course in the history of the world's religions. Humans were making up all sorts of stories about the birth and death of various gods. Several religions' stories have been 'borrowed' from other religions. Study the history of Zoroastrianism. That's where we got the idea of lives after death.
Why waste scholastic accomplishment on such junk.....
Hail Satan!
Ermahgerd, meaningless first comment
no regerts ...
Erhamahgerd, the dude is retrrofitting his religion to fit his politics. So much for "everlasting truth."
@@MajorReynolds92 YOLO
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So you can’t actually comment on anything that was actually said? Why so dishonest and childish? Genuine question.
What's this Lord bullshit ? If Jesus did exist in the Middle East, he certainly wasn't a Lord or King.
Can I ask why the Giants had to be killed when the Jewish escaped their slavery? I never understood. This is an old conversation, but I am curios. To me, the next time someone wants you to kill for God, you might use this story to convince others to kill in God's name. Could this be accurate based off the concerns to kill Giants to take the land? Why did these Giants deserve to die? Because didn't like them? Jewish folks in that time didn't need to know more than just kill Giants for land, don't be discouraged or dare disobey? I never understood this looking at the 'Green Giant' wondering about world hunger and why Giants would need to die. Also, child are into stories of Giants. IDK.
The bible has some archaeological back up. Its myths and fables in the most part. Never a Christian . I say Thank you thats so healing and liberating😂
Some archeological back up? The hate that liberals/atheists have for Christ is truly healing and liberating for Christians, like me, thanx. "If they hate me, they will hate you----Jesus.
Wrong title, or click-bait?
Indoctrination is a hell of a thing. Roy you have a very weak mind.
What's with the eyepatch??
MD wore it for a few months. Been so long ago who knows?
@tpseeker3367 just wondering if he has bells palsy and if it is recurring?
Did a quick Google, he apparently was having headaches and issues with double vision
@kasocool2812 thanks for the heads up.
Aghhhh🏴☠
Lol 😂 dees
Michael!
Come back, Michael!
20.56!!!! Great Great way to put it!!!!
"I picked the bible because I'm an American" would be the honest answer.
To know God truly - in so far as this is possible - is incomparably superior to the philosophy of the Greeks, and simply to know what place man has in relation to God surpasses all their wisdom. For man alone among all terrestrial and celestial beings is created in the image of his Maker, so that he might look to God and love Him and be an initiate and worshipper of God alone, and so that he might preserve his own beauty by his faith in God and his devotion and affection towards Him, and might know that whatever is found on earth and in the
heavens is inferior to himself and is completely void of intelligence.
What you’re claiming is “god” is just the words of man.
@het53 Nothing but dishonesty from believers, making assertions thay cannot demonstrate as true. Thanks for demonstrating your dishonesty, gullibility, and willful ignorance.
@@titania2112 Do you not think that mankind is superior to all things?
@@het53...no, we are not. We can solve problems and pedastal ourselves, but that does not make us intrinsically superior.
GLORY!!!'m favoured, $140K every 3weeks! And I am retired i can now give back to the locals in my community and also support God's work and the church. God bless America🇺🇸❤️
Hello, how do you achieve such biweekly returns? As a single parent i haven't been able to get my own house due to financial struggles, but my faith in God remains strong.
Excuse me for real?,how is that
possible I have struggling
financially, how was that possible?
Thanks to my co-worker whom God used to give a great opportunity of crossing paths with 'Mrs ELIZABETH ANN LARSON'.
I have heard a lot of wonderful things about Elizabeth Ann on the news but didn't believe it until now. I'm definitely trying her out
Same here, with my current portfolio made from my investments with my personal financial advisor (Elizabeth Ann Larson) I totally agree with you
But when your naked before God with all your thoughts and actions before you who will save you how will your so called wisdom help. The Bible says the gospel is foolishness to them that perish. Its a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.
Stop it you're scaring me
The god that I don't believe exists, will do horrible things to me?
Please tell me, will he be worse than Lord Voldemord?
Or Lord Vader?
😂
So your god is a cruel and unjust tyrant?
If God wants me naked in front of him, he better take me for dinner first.
And it turned out... the call was coming from INSIDE the house!
Oops. Sorry. Wasn't this campfire story hour?
Atheists should listen to life instead of just listening to themselves and other nonbelievers.
What does this even mean, to “listen to life?”
Your watching a call In show where they listen to believes dip****
We do? Many of the cast fields of science are all about observing and understanding the natural world. Reading a book isn't listening to nature, studying it is.
I can't wait to hear what "listen to life" means
And theists need to do their scientific research instead of listening to what a preacher or other believers tell them.
Repent of your sins. Believe in Jesus Christ for salvation and become a new person in this life. John 3:16, Luke 13:3, 1 Peter 1:23 KJV
I prefer repeat my fun sins like my good lord commands.
If I don't sin then Jesus died for nothing.
Though thinking about it, Jesus didn't stay dead so there was no sacrifice for our sins.
You never say what specifically you think I should be repenting of. Why is that?
@@amtlpaulProjection probably 😅
Religion: I'm going to sell you the poison so I can sell you the antidote.
_The Bible is true and I can prove it_ Insert logical fallacies here……N E X T !
Jaws do not believe in the Christian Bible, so stop this bs about jaws
I didn’t know sharks believed in anything
@@Fran-ho7qu lol