This is the best apples-to-apples comparison of the sound engines I've heard on YT. Excellent job programming similar patches on the machines to give a good indication of the subtle flavor of each. Thank you!
I pick the Montage, more depth and the Piano's and E Piano's have so much more expression. I programmed over 1000 sounds for the DX7 back in 87'. Noticed your pic with the Moog 55. You program any patches? I am on Arturia's default sounds of the 55.
To sum it all up the fantom is used more on tracks because of its compressed sounds. Not to mention they sound radio ready straight out of the keyboard. The Yamaha sounds good as well but for live events because the sounds are so amplified with eqs so it’s meant to impress right out the keyboard.
@@haroldbrooks4235 True... The Fantom lends itself better to live performance and having some unique desirable features over Montage...while Montage has just a slightly better sound quality, IMO...
Here's a major difference: The Sequencer - The Fantom cannot transpose the pattern in real time - Montage recognizes real-time chords This changes the workflow a lot - live !
You can't go wrong with any of those. I had both Roland Fantom G8 and Motif XS8, they are amazing. For playing live, I prefer Roland Fantom sounds that cut through the Band right out the box and alot of people praised the sound coming from it. When I use Yamaha on the other hands, only a few give comment about it. It seems like Roland did a good job producing the sound engine.
I never met a synth I didn't like. They both sound great! You are fortunate to have both! An interesting video comparing sound engines . If I had to pick just one I have to go with the Fantom for work flow and incredible amount of features.
Yamaha had it over the Roland (but only slightly,) up until the point of the Fantasia patch. That is definitely a Roland signature sound! All sounds after that, it becomes even a closer match!
both have their charms! I have a Yamaha Moxf keyboard. I felt like ( and still do ) that it had one of the best sounding saxaphone patches I've heard ever. Pianos sound realistic to me.
Lot of the synth sounds on Roland have a lot of presence and bottom end. Roland has been the king of signature electronic sounds that gave birth to many genres of music from synth pop italdisco to psytrance. Yamaha has always been king of realistic samples and fm sounds. It’s really hard to have only 1 over the other. 😅
this is fascinating; I won an old Motif, and played an old Fantom on tour; the Yamaha stuff seems more 'hyped', and the Roland stuff seems more 'realistic'... both pretty great...
There's something about Yamaha's that makes them ROCK solid. I have both Yamaha and Roland synths. I maintain the Roland Keybeds ALL the time, but the Yamaha synths lives on without a flaw, my oldest Yamaha is 33+ years old now, still rocks without a single keyboard defect. That said - you will be SUPER happy with EITHER of the synths. You can literally create each sound similar on each instrument, they're both wicked advanced, 100's of menues to dive into, you'll be lost for YEARS, I pretty much guarantee you this.
Gracias por el comentario, nunca tuve un teclado tanto tiempo como 33 años. Que teclado es ese que tenés hace tanto . El teclado que tengo más viejo es un Roland RD300gx hace aproximadamente 12 años. Saludos.
Both are superb in every way. For me I would use the montage for the studio and the fantom for live work. The slight thinness and forward sounding Roland would project better sound wise in a band situation. But it's down to personal preference as always.
Buying right now I'd pick Fantom, if only for the layout, sequencer, raw power and software upgrade potential. Both sound fantastic, and any sonic differences are not enough to make much of a difference other than side-by-side, in my opinion of course. We all hear and interpret things differently for different reasons.
Hi I own a montage 8 Software upgrades are spectacular Easy to do . I was thinking about the Roland Fantom After this I think I’ll look closer at the Roland Jupiter X .
The sequencer on the Fantom isnt "all that". its a 32 measure clip sequencer. You have to get your head away from linear sequencing. The Fantom is not a workstation. Its a synthesiser. It is offered as a synthesiser. It has polyphony issues due there only being 256 partials available and not 256 note polyphony. Some "tones" have 3 or 4 partials active and throw some reverb in there, it soon starts to clip. Dont get me wrong, I love it but it does let itself down in some areas.
@@Bikerboythousand to a point, though Ive never run into poly issues - I know how it works and manage the resources, but I get your viewpoint. What it DOES do better than anything else available is integrate with other equipment live or in a studio. if you use multiple synths and in particular modules (or indeed lots of VSTs) its by far the better option.
@@paulmapp8306 Do the LED illuminated faders work well for controlling external gear via MIDI CC and/or CV? Those faders are a huge part of the draw for me. And I don't suppose you've tried the 88 key version? Is the hammer action comparable to the RD-2000?
@@rdean150 its the same keybed as the rd, PHA5. Midi cc for some reason is restricted to 95 - you cant assign anything higher which can be a pain, but they do work well
Really hard to choose because they are both fantastic. You think you've decided and then it changes when another sound is picked. Probably at a push I would take the Montage
Not a keys player by any stretch, but it sounds like the Yamaha wouldn't need much or any post work to fit in a mix, it already stands out. Someone mentioned in the comments that it seems 'hyped'. Maybe that's intentional? However after watching a different video on ease of use, the Roland seems like it would be a breeze to navigate and operate. I'm really appreciating videos like this to help make a decision on which direction to go for a purchase. THANK YOU!
Both of them sound exceptional ,this comparison the Roland wins as it is noticeably heavier in the bottom end and a bit brighter in the highs with just a little more character in the mids...excellent comparison video
I agree. Roland always has beefier synth sounds while Yamaha sounds organic and realistic when it comes to acoustic sounds; also the lovely fm sounds. It’s like Ferrari vs Lamborghini. I need both 🤣.
@@ryanpresley7491 yes. I work for a dealer. I don't know about other repair facilities, but the one I work at has good resources and my fellow technicians and I really care about our customers.
Lot of the synth sounds on Roland have a lot of presence and bottom end. Roland has been the king of signature electronic sounds that gave birth to many genres of music from synth pop italdisco to psytrance. Yamaha has always been king of realistic samples and fm sounds. It’s really hard to have only 1 over the other. 😅
Not only matter of EQ, but also of the reverb, and of the ADSR! And the face!!! There wants somebody to sell a special product. For money some individuals do EVERYTHING!!!
@@openclassics Totally agree, I have Korg Krome, factory sounds are terrible in the major of cases (high-end frequency notes etc that hurts your ears), you have to duplicate and create a new one adjusting the reverb, adding a couple of IFX and adjust ADSR, after that we can start talking! what I don't get is when you mention 'face', what's that?
Lot of the synth sounds on Roland have a lot of presence and bottom end. Roland has been the king of signature electronic sounds that gave birth to many genres of music from synth pop italdisco to psytrance. Yamaha has always been king of realistic samples and fm sounds. It’s really hard to have only 1 over the other. 😅
2 keyboards with two proposals of answers of different frequency, that's my point of view. The Fantom with a more open timbre and the Yamaha a little more closed, maybe with its serious frequency a little above, two excellent instruments.
These "comparison" videos are always useless because no one ever seems to match the output EQ's - so one always sounds brighter, other dull. Sometimes I think the people making these kinds of videos do it on purpose.
They do sound different with the Montage a little darker on some sounds but I guess it is down to personal preference though I tend to lean to Yamaha but not much between them.
There's just something about the Yamaha sounds. Its deep and the tones are rich. I was actually waiting to hear the E. Piano sounds which I know Roland keyboards for but still not as rich as this Yamaha montage.
Lot of the synth sounds on Roland have a lot of presence and bottom end. Roland has been the king of signature electronic sounds that gave birth to many genres of music from synth pop italdisco to psytrance. Yamaha has always been king of realistic samples and fm sounds. It’s really hard to have only 1 over the other. 😅
In this category of synth (Kronos, Montage, Moog One, Fantom 2019) is it useful to make this kind of comparaison? Since, we be able to ajust each sound like you like. For exemple, adjust the harmonic via the range of hertz, adjust via waves type, adjust via ADSR, etc.... OK, it is for pro, but these machines are not for a pro, or semi-pro at least?
Can you adjust the Hz in both machines to edit global tuning hz to 432 hz or 528 hz etc, vs standard 440 hz? If so, is it per patch or a global option? Thanks!
They both sound incredibly good! I am trying to put my finger on what the difference between two comes down to, and I think that Fantom seems to have a bit beefier low end. It sounds warmer, fuzzier, and heavier to me. Montage, is crispier, more crystalline punchier, and handles the FM type sounds and piano especially beautifully!
Lot of the synth sounds on Roland have a lot of presence and bottom end. Roland has been the king of signature electronic sounds that gave birth to many genres of music from synth pop italdisco to psytrance. Yamaha has always been king of realistic samples and fm sounds. It’s really hard to have only 1 over the other. 😅
Piano: Roland Strings: Roland Rhodes: Yamaha Pad: Yamaha Fantasia: Draw (both are good, just different) FM Piano: Roland Pluck Synth: Yamaha Dulcimer: Roland Final result: Roland 4.5 - Yamaha 3.5
Lol no. other way around. How can Yamaha be PES when it’s literally the best musical company on Earth? Literally Yamaha does Musical instruments from real to synthesis, vehicles, headphones, speakers. Yamaha is the richest music company on earth. While the rest are competing against themselves.
I go off of how good the clean piano sounds are...and Montage is clearly better... But on the other hand, the Fantom has some advanced abilities that the Montage doesn't have...and the Fantom's unique touch screen features are very desirable over the Montage... You really can't lose with either one...
Sir I have fantom x6 keyboard but, i can't use as a midi keyboard in windows 10 becouse that is older keyboard midi driver is New version not available yet please slove my problm how to use my fantom x6 keyboard as a midi..
I'm interested in that white piece of gear that is holding the audio interface or some sort. Is that a modified music stand or something? May I have the links to purchase it?
I bought the Fantom 6… at the beginning I thought it sounded thin, but the more I use it the more I like it. It’s has become my favorite synth. I should’ve bought the 88 version. I want that one now… it’s that good.
With so much processing power on both keyboard and the quality of the raw materials you’ll be for sure able to make them sound pretty similar to each other. The personal preferences and the sentiment are the most decisive factors when you make your choice.
Mir gefällt der Gesichtsausdruck als er auf den Yamaha Montage 8 den E-Piano Sound anspielt bei 5:52 😂 Er hat definitiv recht Roland kann keiner das Wasser auch nur annähernd reichen was Synthesizer Klänge anbelangt definitiv die besseren Sounds! Da zeigt sich halt die Jahrelange Erfahrung mit Synthesizer und Grooveboxen😉
I'm really leaning towards getting a Fantom 7 to go with my MODX 6 then possibly upgrading to a montage as well if necessary/possible. I like both 8 versions except for their weight and size they are just so dang big.
Even as a loyal Roland / Boss owner I have to admit that I prefer the Yamaha here. It sounds more subtle and musical. Roland notes often have a sharp edge.
They better do something with the outdated Christmas tree only good update was 3.0 to add a sequencer when it should have been there to begin with .it said that yamaha's flagship keyboard is a modx with more lights
Great vid. I can't decide between the two lol. I'm heavy into synths, and would like to have navigation and recording not too complex to get used to. No live, just in studio compositions. Which do you recommend?
Montage tem um peso em seus pianos que; na minha opinião: não inconfundíveis! Muita presença. Quando você ouve, ouve um som cheio, pesado e ao mesmo tempo macio!
Ive watched some videos on the Roland Fantom in the 4x4x4 Challenge ive noticed it seems very easy to Layer Tracks is it as easy on the Yamaha Montage.
i have Roland cloud... you're not missing anything. I've already wasted $70 on retooled dated SR-JV80 expansions. ugh. My solace is that i can still double my XV5080s patches after selling my XV5050. But, the 8 vs 16 zones perked my ears up, though.
@Fernando Blanc RANDY JUDAH TORREZ ❤️ < I just got the Roland 7 Famtom BIG brother it's fantastic I totally agree about KORG TRITON Pro workstation it's an amazing keyboard I have the 76keys I never will get rid of it but my new ROLAND 7 FANTOM is blowing my mind right now I love the KORG TRITON to. And yes TRITON is very thick Especially the BASS Sounds it has amazing combinations
Really good comparison! So close there's almost nothing in it... if I had to choose, I'd want to see what the UI was like to use and pick based on that. That's how close I found them!
I think nobodys complain about both sounds of beasts machine, what is important is workflow how fast and help creativity to make arrangement. I think I go for roland
Have a Roland FA06 and love the sampling pads and can record long songs onto them stored on the USB stick. Does the Fantom 06 have this same capabilities? Records onto a removable device?
What it sounds like... if you want real instruments: Roland fantom... if you want synthy instruments: Yamaha... I would find a place for both... this comaprison leads me to think the fantom is a wiser purchase... then also I feel like the contrast would sit well together
i own the yamaha. not much of a player. they both sound fantastic. the yamaha is very complicated to create sounds from scratch. the presets are amazing but utilizing/programming the arps to suit a pre recorded song is super difficult.
Thank you for the video. I’ve been an happy user of Sipario since its first appereance on the market, but I’d have a big question 😁 Let’s say you have this setup: one of these workstations + another keyboard synth + an expander and/or an ipad (no Sipario) for live gigs. You have to manage all midi zones, split points, layers, messages, sustain pedal and sevaral controls, with your masterkeyboard. Which is the best in terms of midi routing capabilities? I am searching the net to hopely find a deep comparison about mdi functions, not sounds. 😊
I do not see many comments about handling.. The user interface of the Roland looks very clean and has drum pads, also the turning knobs of Roland have AI feature and high resolution.. I believe the Yamaha wins it hands down, when it comes to sound sample depth.. But what about ease of use and build quality? Yamaha keys look bigger than Roland for example looking more like real piano keys, but the Roland touch screen seems to be very vivid and responsive and overall has the better appeal when it comes to led colors across the board.. Which one is the best?
El montage tiene un color más oscuro notablemente. Depende de los gusto pero preferiría el fantom que mantiene un equilibrio entre lo oscuro y suave de las frecuencias de sonido
both sounding great!
both soundig definitely different each other.
so... I need both :-)))))
Sure and I need one billion dollars...
@@alexdbf2281 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@marcoballa 🤗😆
I like software with mainstage better! For me, it’s makes this hardware unnecessary, but I can see how they can be of use to others.✌🏾
No talking.. so good 👍
This is the best apples-to-apples comparison of the sound engines I've heard on YT. Excellent job programming similar patches on the machines to give a good indication of the subtle flavor of each. Thank you!
What a great time to be alive. So many choices ... all of them good.
Immagine Mozzart playing these lol.
I pick the Montage, more depth and the Piano's and E Piano's have so much more expression. I programmed over 1000 sounds for the DX7 back in 87'. Noticed your pic with the Moog 55. You program any patches? I am on Arturia's default sounds of the 55.
Unfortunately i’m not an owner of a System 55 😢 so sad 😅 only for the pic, but maybe one day.. 😉
Yes
I like all 80s music and Yamaha’s signature fm and Roland’s signature analog sounds come together in these 2 incredible machines.
To sum it all up the fantom is used more on tracks because of its compressed sounds. Not to mention they sound radio ready straight out of the keyboard. The Yamaha sounds good as well but for live events because the sounds are so amplified with eqs so it’s meant to impress right out the keyboard.
Thanks for helping me articulate my thoughts. I love them both but each have their own place in different situations
@@haroldbrooks4235 True... The Fantom lends itself better to live performance and having some unique desirable features over Montage...while Montage has just a slightly better sound quality, IMO...
Great take bro!
Here's a major difference: The Sequencer
- The Fantom cannot transpose the pattern in real time
- Montage recognizes real-time chords
This changes the workflow a lot - live !
Not if you dont use a sequencer live lol.
@@paulmapp8306 nice point, same with the keybed, lol.
do u recomend XPS-30 to make covers from The Killers and Coldplay? i'd use strings, piano, pad and synth. Thanks.
perhaps the transposing option will come in a firmware update
You can't go wrong with any of those.
I had both Roland Fantom G8 and Motif XS8, they are amazing.
For playing live, I prefer Roland Fantom sounds that cut through the Band right out the box and alot of people praised the sound coming from it.
When I use Yamaha on the other hands, only a few give comment about it. It seems like Roland did a good job producing the sound engine.
Both very nice. Something subtle about Yamaha that makes me lean that way.
I always prefer YAMAHA but fantom sounds amazing here
I never met a synth I didn't like. They both sound great! You are fortunate to have both! An interesting video comparing sound engines . If I had to pick just one I have to go with the Fantom for work flow and incredible amount of features.
yes! the best option is: Montage and Fantom! and yes i'm very lucky ;)
Yamaha had it over the Roland (but only slightly,) up until the point of the Fantasia patch. That is definitely a Roland signature sound! All sounds after that, it becomes even a closer match!
I think in grand pianos yamaha is better
You’re right
both have their charms! I have a Yamaha Moxf keyboard. I felt like ( and still do ) that it had one of the best sounding saxaphone patches I've heard ever. Pianos sound realistic to me.
Lot of the synth sounds on Roland have a lot of presence and bottom end. Roland has been the king of signature electronic sounds that gave birth to many genres of music from synth pop italdisco to psytrance. Yamaha has always been king of realistic samples and fm sounds. It’s really hard to have only 1 over the other. 😅
This is what you get when the piano player is better than the instruments. So good!
this is fascinating; I won an old Motif, and played an old Fantom on tour; the Yamaha stuff seems more 'hyped', and the Roland stuff seems more 'realistic'... both pretty great...
Would you happen to be selling either one? 🤔
Absolutely true!
There's something about Yamaha's that makes them ROCK solid. I have both Yamaha and Roland synths. I maintain the Roland Keybeds ALL the time, but the Yamaha synths lives on without a flaw, my oldest Yamaha is 33+ years old now, still rocks without a single keyboard defect.
That said - you will be SUPER happy with EITHER of the synths. You can literally create each sound similar on each instrument, they're both wicked advanced, 100's of menues to dive into, you'll be lost for YEARS, I pretty much guarantee you this.
Can say the same about roland that ive had, the x7 had it since release and been gigging with it, its a tank. Hope the fantom is the same!👍
Gracias por el comentario, nunca tuve un teclado tanto tiempo como 33 años. Que teclado es ese que tenés hace tanto . El teclado que tengo más viejo es un Roland RD300gx hace aproximadamente 12 años. Saludos.
@@edgardocasa7535 Hi! The longest I've kept a keyboard is 13 years, it was a Roland D-50.
@@joonglegamer9898 ok, teclado muy popular. Hermoso. Tank you.
Both are superb in every way. For me I would use the montage for the studio and the fantom for live work. The slight thinness and forward sounding Roland would project better sound wise in a band situation.
But it's down to personal preference as always.
Buying right now I'd pick Fantom, if only for the layout, sequencer, raw power and software upgrade potential. Both sound fantastic, and any sonic differences are not enough to make much of a difference other than side-by-side, in my opinion of course. We all hear and interpret things differently for different reasons.
Hi
I own a montage 8
Software upgrades are spectacular
Easy to do .
I was thinking about the Roland Fantom
After this I think I’ll look closer at the Roland Jupiter X .
The sequencer on the Fantom isnt "all that". its a 32 measure clip sequencer. You have to get your head away from linear sequencing. The Fantom is not a workstation. Its a synthesiser. It is offered as a synthesiser. It has polyphony issues due there only being 256 partials available and not 256 note polyphony. Some "tones" have 3 or 4 partials active and throw some reverb in there, it soon starts to clip. Dont get me wrong, I love it but it does let itself down in some areas.
@@Bikerboythousand to a point, though Ive never run into poly issues - I know how it works and manage the resources, but I get your viewpoint. What it DOES do better than anything else available is integrate with other equipment live or in a studio. if you use multiple synths and in particular modules (or indeed lots of VSTs) its by far the better option.
@@paulmapp8306 Do the LED illuminated faders work well for controlling external gear via MIDI CC and/or CV? Those faders are a huge part of the draw for me. And I don't suppose you've tried the 88 key version? Is the hammer action comparable to the RD-2000?
@@rdean150 its the same keybed as the rd, PHA5. Midi cc for some reason is restricted to 95 - you cant assign anything higher which can be a pain, but they do work well
Really hard to choose because they are both fantastic. You think you've decided and then it changes when another sound is picked. Probably at a push I would take the Montage
After all, YAMAHA sounds good when FM sound source is inserted.
I use ROLAND as the master keyboard and YAMAHA as the sub.
Not a keys player by any stretch, but it sounds like the Yamaha wouldn't need much or any post work to fit in a mix, it already stands out. Someone mentioned in the comments that it seems 'hyped'. Maybe that's intentional? However after watching a different video on ease of use, the Roland seems like it would be a breeze to navigate and operate. I'm really appreciating videos like this to help make a decision on which direction to go for a purchase. THANK YOU!
It's hard to choose, they respectively have their own great sounds. I think I just have to get them both! ;) Thank you for the demo.
Both of them sound exceptional ,this comparison the Roland wins as it is noticeably heavier in the bottom end and a bit brighter in the highs with just a little more character in the mids...excellent comparison video
Really? I noticed more lower end on the Yamaha
😂😊
I agree. Roland always has beefier synth sounds while Yamaha sounds organic and realistic when it comes to acoustic sounds; also the lovely fm sounds. It’s like Ferrari vs Lamborghini. I need both 🤣.
@@mrentrepreneur7965 betul👍👍👍
As someone who repairs these for a living, I love both. They both are quality instruments.
Do you work for a dealer, or a general electronics repair shop? Am curious to know where to turn if one of my babies decides to go out on me!
@@ryanpresley7491 yes. I work for a dealer. I don't know about other repair facilities, but the one I work at has good resources and my fellow technicians and I really care about our customers.
I like the full sound of the montage, however I also enjoy the electronic sound that the Fantom pads have.
Damn good synthesizers, damn good keyboardist!
Yamaha has created incredible sounds lately, the yamaha has a different magic, both on the syth and rhythm box keyboards.
Fantom daha iyi ya
Lot of the synth sounds on Roland have a lot of presence and bottom end. Roland has been the king of signature electronic sounds that gave birth to many genres of music from synth pop italdisco to psytrance. Yamaha has always been king of realistic samples and fm sounds. It’s really hard to have only 1 over the other. 😅
The montage has that reverb pattern which makes it's sound out of this world.
I like both! They both sound great! I’m a Yamaha fan, tho. But the Roland is no joke!🤨🎶👍🏾
It seems that sometimes is just a matter of EQ.
Most of the time especially with the acoustic samples (piano, strings ...)
Not only matter of EQ, but also of the reverb, and of the ADSR! And the face!!!
There wants somebody to sell a special product.
For money some individuals do EVERYTHING!!!
Absolutely! ;)
@@openclassics Totally agree, I have Korg Krome, factory sounds are terrible in the major of cases (high-end frequency notes etc that hurts your ears), you have to duplicate and create a new one adjusting the reverb, adding a couple of IFX and adjust ADSR, after that we can start talking! what I don't get is when you mention 'face', what's that?
remind me what was EQ again
That Roland signature sound is amazing. The presets are amazing.
Samples, sounds programming and superknob of Yamaha, layout, interface and workstation architecture of Roland.
Lot of the synth sounds on Roland have a lot of presence and bottom end. Roland has been the king of signature electronic sounds that gave birth to many genres of music from synth pop italdisco to psytrance. Yamaha has always been king of realistic samples and fm sounds. It’s really hard to have only 1 over the other. 😅
Lovely playing of the Rhodes my friend.
At the montage, yes.
@@godot5082 You can hear the Rhodes sound is definitely a Roland sound these days, because of owning Rhodes
Os Dois São Maravilhosos!!
Com o Fantom e o Montage no estúdio e um bom editor para EQ, Não precisaria de mais nada!
Com certeza são muito bons
Sou baterista e tecladista se tenho um montage não preciso de mais nada
@@jonatasdasilvapereirajonat1539 Pra mim ja serviria só o Fantom!
@@paulocessna é questão de gosto não gosto dos pianos da Roland acho estralado de mais mas como digo questão de gosto
2 keyboards with two proposals of answers of different frequency, that's my point of view. The Fantom with a more open timbre and the Yamaha a little more closed, maybe with its serious frequency a little above, two excellent instruments.
Yes... that's it that's the difference...the e.q curve
These "comparison" videos are always useless because no one ever seems to match the output EQ's - so one always sounds brighter, other dull.
Sometimes I think the people making these kinds of videos do it on purpose.
I wish this video would have gone on for hours. So good. So enjoyable. I liked more sounds on Roland. Just by a few … both are great.
Hello everyone, I'm interested in what is the control box between the two keyboards?
SiparioX by Lab4music
I am fortunate enough to own both of them. They both sound amazing and beautiful in their own way!
Yes! I also have both in my setup! ;)
I am considering getting one of these keyboards. Which one has better piano sounds and sequencer in your opinion?
@@joemiguel6576 if you need a more complete sequencer go with Fantom ;)
@@DKS-SYNTH-LAB Than you
Loved the video. As a 40yr air keyboard player, both sounded great.
Ok for synths both are equally good, but real hero is YOU, great selection and playing, would like to watch you play for hours, great.
They do sound different with the Montage a little darker on some sounds but I guess it is down to personal preference though I tend to lean to Yamaha but not much between them.
They both sound out of this world!
There's just something about the Yamaha sounds. Its deep and the tones are rich. I was actually waiting to hear the E. Piano sounds which I know Roland keyboards for but still not as rich as this Yamaha montage.
Lot of the synth sounds on Roland have a lot of presence and bottom end. Roland has been the king of signature electronic sounds that gave birth to many genres of music from synth pop italdisco to psytrance. Yamaha has always been king of realistic samples and fm sounds. It’s really hard to have only 1 over the other. 😅
Fantom sound like a very good sinthesizer, but montage sound like both, a Synth and a very good Sampler
In this category of synth (Kronos, Montage, Moog One, Fantom 2019) is it useful to make this kind of comparaison? Since, we be able to ajust each sound like you like. For exemple, adjust the harmonic via the range of hertz, adjust via waves type, adjust via ADSR, etc.... OK, it is for pro, but these machines are not for a pro, or semi-pro at least?
There are different engine and taste. Both are amazing.
Can you adjust the Hz in both machines to edit global tuning hz to 432 hz or 528 hz etc, vs standard 440 hz?
If so, is it per patch or a global option?
Thanks!
@@HammyGirl999 even my kawai ES8 piano can do that.. so should those two.
Sound- Montage , layout- Fantom
They both sound incredibly good! I am trying to put my finger on what the difference between two comes down to, and I think that Fantom seems to have a bit beefier low end. It sounds warmer, fuzzier, and heavier to me. Montage, is crispier, more crystalline punchier, and handles the FM type sounds and piano especially beautifully!
Lot of the synth sounds on Roland have a lot of presence and bottom end. Roland has been the king of signature electronic sounds that gave birth to many genres of music from synth pop italdisco to psytrance. Yamaha has always been king of realistic samples and fm sounds. It’s really hard to have only 1 over the other. 😅
Piano: Roland
Strings: Roland
Rhodes: Yamaha
Pad: Yamaha
Fantasia: Draw (both are good, just different)
FM Piano: Roland
Pluck Synth: Yamaha
Dulcimer: Roland
Final result: Roland 4.5 - Yamaha 3.5
Love the piano on the Fantom but mostly everything else on the Montage, they are both great and you would be good with either one.
YAMAHA
sound on more bass and opened.
For me YAMAHA.... even i am KORG pa4x user😁...but i regonize....yamaha make's most warmer keyboards
Roland yields the best synth sounds
I like the sounds of the montage when you played acoustic instruments and some pads but I prefer fantom for most of electronic sounds.
Roland (FIFA) and Yamaha (PES).
Both work on their own. Both are great!
Lol no. other way around. How can Yamaha be PES when it’s literally the best musical company on Earth? Literally Yamaha does Musical instruments from real to synthesis, vehicles, headphones, speakers. Yamaha is the richest music company on earth. While the rest are competing against themselves.
@@tuneunleashed piano phantom
Yamaha FIFA and Roland PES lol. Roland sells 1, Yamaha sells 100 comparision
I go off of how good the clean piano sounds are...and Montage is clearly better... But on the other hand, the Fantom has some advanced abilities that the Montage doesn't have...and the Fantom's unique touch screen features are very desirable over the Montage... You really can't lose with either one...
what song is being played at 1:39?? it sound familiar but i cant put a name to it
Montage tones is the verry emotional
Both are excellent and extremely good so personal preference takes precedence on this
Montage SLAYS.
Yamaha definitely beats Roland with FM, that's kinda their thing
What is FM please?
@@HammyGirl999 frequency modulation synthesis. Aka the glassy dx7 electric piano sound you heard on dozens of 80’s records
Both sound brilliant in their own ways, but the Pluck Synth on the Yamaha is better (in my opinion).
PS: I own a Fantom.
Sir I have fantom x6 keyboard but, i can't use as a midi keyboard in windows 10 becouse that is older keyboard midi driver is New version not available yet please slove my problm how to use my fantom x6 keyboard as a midi..
I'm interested in that white piece of gear that is holding the audio interface or some sort.
Is that a modified music stand or something? May I have the links to purchase it?
It’s a tablet stand from IKEA: ISBERGET around 3€
@@DKS-SYNTH-LAB Thanks! Have a lovely weekend!
I bought the Fantom 6… at the beginning I thought it sounded thin, but the more I use it the more I like it. It’s has become my favorite synth. I should’ve bought the 88 version. I want that one now… it’s that good.
Awesome performance. Great songs. It’s a joy to watch you play music.
yeah the yamaha has a more live feel to it but I like the features on the fantom alot more but I'm a fan of both
With so much processing power on both keyboard and the quality of the raw materials you’ll be for sure able to make them sound pretty similar to each other. The personal preferences and the sentiment are the most decisive factors when you make your choice.
Mir gefällt der Gesichtsausdruck als er auf den Yamaha Montage 8 den E-Piano Sound anspielt bei 5:52 😂
Er hat definitiv recht Roland kann keiner das Wasser auch nur annähernd reichen was Synthesizer Klänge anbelangt definitiv die besseren Sounds!
Da zeigt sich halt die Jahrelange Erfahrung mit Synthesizer und Grooveboxen😉
I'm really leaning towards getting a Fantom 7 to go with my MODX 6 then possibly upgrading to a montage as well if necessary/possible. I like both 8 versions except for their weight and size they are just so dang big.
Yes I have the modx8 and it Is big but it doesn’t weight much
I’m just the kinda guy who is obsessed with having all 88 keys.
Even as a loyal Roland / Boss owner I have to admit that I prefer the Yamaha here. It sounds more subtle and musical. Roland notes often have a sharp edge.
Both sounds great I need all of them .
I wonder will Yamaha bring out a new model as the Montage has been out a while now.
maybe in the future... i think we will see only other updates in the near future.. ;)
They better do something with the outdated Christmas tree only good update was 3.0 to add a sequencer when it should have been there to begin with .it said that yamaha's flagship keyboard is a modx with more lights
@@DKS-SYNTH-LAB i noticed Yamaha haven't brought out any more firmware updates for the Yamaha CP88 this year were we got more piano sounds.
Great vid. I can't decide between the two lol. I'm heavy into synths, and would like to have navigation and recording not too complex to get used to. No live, just in studio compositions. Which do you recommend?
Fantom for sure
talent and understanding of composition does wonders for selling these keyboards.
Nothing can give output like Roland ❤️
I second the camp that looks forward to this video!
Montage tem um peso em seus pianos que; na minha opinião: não inconfundíveis!
Muita presença. Quando você ouve, ouve um som cheio, pesado e ao mesmo tempo macio!
Por isso eu comprei o MONTAGE 8,sem dúvidas muito superior. Você tem que ver as teclas do 8😃. É das galáxias.
I'm still in love with my Montage, but I wish it had some of the sound design features of the Fantom... 😮
Both are very good synthesizers, but I'll stay with YAMAHA!!!
Agree. Both awesome keyboards. I’ll stay with Roland though. 😏
Yes they are two top end synths and sound quite similar. But have you heard the Nords?
Ive watched some videos on the Roland Fantom in the 4x4x4 Challenge ive noticed it seems very easy to Layer Tracks is it as easy on the Yamaha Montage.
I've always been using fantom since the original FA I'm wondering if i should switch to Yamaha.
The Montage only has 8 keyboard zones, whereas the Fantom has 16. With the Fantom you can download any classic Roland sound from the cloud.
i have Roland cloud... you're not missing anything. I've already wasted $70 on retooled dated SR-JV80 expansions. ugh. My solace is that i can still double my XV5080s patches after selling my XV5050. But, the 8 vs 16 zones perked my ears up, though.
@Fernando Blanc
RANDY JUDAH TORREZ ❤️ <
I just got the Roland 7 Famtom BIG brother it's fantastic
I totally agree about KORG TRITON Pro workstation it's an amazing keyboard I have the 76keys I never will get rid of it but my new ROLAND 7 FANTOM is blowing my mind right now I love the KORG TRITON to.
And yes TRITON is very thick
Especially the BASS Sounds
it has amazing combinations
Really good comparison! So close there's almost nothing in it... if I had to choose, I'd want to see what the UI was like to use and pick based on that. That's how close I found them!
I think nobodys complain about both sounds of beasts machine, what is important is workflow how fast and help creativity to make arrangement. I think I go for roland
Have a Roland FA06 and love the sampling pads and can record long songs onto them stored on the USB stick. Does the Fantom 06 have this same capabilities? Records onto a removable device?
by changing the EQ you can make them sound identical!
I pick the montage by far. Thanks for the comparison
Love Roland, but Yamaha sounds wider here
The pads were like night and day.
korg god
Is the Roland Fantom good for electronica/industrial music as well?? Can it get some real hard sounds?
What it sounds like... if you want real instruments: Roland fantom... if you want synthy instruments: Yamaha... I would find a place for both... this comaprison leads me to think the fantom is a wiser purchase... then also I feel like the contrast would sit well together
really also one does some things better than the other and the other does some things better than the other... they should make love
Both sound fantastic. I would have to flip a coin to pick one or the other. Really great.
The MOntage sounds warm and more realistic with strings...all in all i would choose the Yamaha Montage...busty budgeting for a dope workstation
I have the montage7 very nice synth but it needs a lots research to find out whats possible
Both sound good, so I suppose it would come down to which has the most features and then compare price to performance.
buenas tardes si le dieran a escoger dos teclados entre el Nord stage3 un Roland Fantom el Montage8 y el Genos cual escogeria ,gracias
i own the yamaha. not much of a player. they both sound fantastic. the yamaha is very complicated to create sounds from scratch. the presets are amazing but utilizing/programming the arps to suit a pre recorded song is super difficult.
Thank you for the video.
I’ve been an happy user of Sipario since its first appereance on the market, but
I’d have a big question 😁
Let’s say you have this setup: one of these workstations + another keyboard synth + an expander and/or an ipad (no Sipario) for live gigs.
You have to manage all midi zones, split points, layers, messages, sustain pedal and sevaral controls, with your masterkeyboard.
Which is the best in terms of midi routing capabilities?
I am searching the net to hopely find a deep comparison about mdi functions, not sounds.
😊
I do not see many comments about handling.. The user interface of the Roland looks very clean and has drum pads, also the turning knobs of Roland have AI feature and high resolution.. I believe the Yamaha wins it hands down, when it comes to sound sample depth.. But what about ease of use and build quality? Yamaha keys look bigger than Roland for example looking more like real piano keys, but the Roland touch screen seems to be very vivid and responsive and overall has the better appeal when it comes to led colors across the board.. Which one is the best?
Siempre me ha gustado la Yamaha Montage...
Pero aquí viendo la comparación la fantom también está bueno...
Buenas máquinas.... 😉👍🏻
El montage tiene un color más oscuro notablemente. Depende de los gusto pero preferiría el fantom que mantiene un equilibrio entre lo oscuro y suave de las frecuencias de sonido
Intresting when you are visual impaired... Dificult to hear which instrument you are playing first. Is it always the same? Intresting comparism😄
It's like two different view of the truth,two witness of the same event;both give one vision of what ever you want.