My take: - Korg says: Listen how hyped and Full spectrum I am, I sound amazing in your headphones, who needs extra musicians anyway. - Yamaha says: I know a band has multiple instruments, and I’m the most important. - Roland says: I’ll let the mixing engineer decide my place in the mix.
@@xaverk Interesting point one which often gets overlooked. How things sit in the mix. And for the most part you will find you need to trim sounds to make them play nice together not boost them. In fact, the more instruments, the more trimming is the usual work around. So Id agree with Filip, the premise being that Roland would require less attenuating than the others. Perhaps that's what they mean by SUPERNatural sounds. But just because something sounds more natural doesn't mean it sounds better. Same thing can be said about keys. On guitar the easier the neck is to play the better, on keys it seems the opposite because of Piano Purists. I neither like cheap toy feeling keybeds but after a days hard work and returning home to long hours of hardcore workhorsing I wouldn't mind my piggies being more at ease with a quality synth feel. Performing and recording I may go the other way with heavier weighted keys. The point being everything is a medium. Even our biological appendages. If we can compose straight from our minds things would be a lot different. That's as organic and natural as it can get. Everything else is just moonshine. Perhaps thats why singers are the frontmen in the spotlight. They use the least mediums. We are Ghosts in the machine/Spirits in the material world after all
@@Voitcu I don't want to disagree at all. I just want to make you think that the electronic imitation, even just the reproduction through loudspeakers of very good, mature acoustic instruments is always worse than the original. Synthesizer sounds can also sound very nice to our ears and are not so problematic, since no comparison to acoustic instruments is possible or meaningful. The fact that singers are always the center of attention is due to the fact that the majority of our fellow human beings do not recognize music without singing as music. Most singers annoy me because they always push themselves into the foreground and in truth (usually) have the lowest qualifications of all accompanying musicians. And the worst intonation. Just my personal opinion. 🤗
@@xaverk Just had to comment to agree with you. Voitcu can try to argue that it's already 'precut' to play nice better, but the fact of the matter is that you can't create something that isn't there. It's always better to have more, because you can't boost something to compensate for something that isn't even there in the first place.
It all comes down to workflow, and what workflow fits best for you. You can import samples and work them with ALL these flagship synthesizer workstations. The examples you hear in this video is what they have to offer out of stock, meaning - the sounds that came with the keyboards. They're all top-of-the-line synths, and if you find one that fits your style of playing and working, then that's the one you should use. They all have enough punch to deliver basically any sound experience you want, it all comes down to the sample sets you use, the synthesizer variations and filters you add on top of that, you can twist and mangle every sound to your liking on ALL these keyboards. (I have the Montage btw, but I honestly like the workflow and menues of the Roland Fantom much better, I just got the Montage because I got it for a crazy bargain). Bottom line is - you'll be happy if you can afford any of these.
+ the keybed must be considered, Nautilus has no AT, Phantom has a crazy AT velocity curve (extremely hard), the Montage seems to be superior here. Rg the samples - this is true, but the other thing is the synth engines and how to work with these samples. Another level is the dsp power, Roland rules in this case, no glitches, no freezes, best display. I have the Kronos II and the display is really bad and the machine is booting 80 seconds and is overall quite slow. The Roland workflow is the best, simple (in comparison to the Kronos), but the keybed (88) is not for everybody. It is not an easy decision!
I have to admit that my own Nautilus sounds far better than in that comparison. In that video its sound seems a bit muddy, which is not the case at all. I tried all of them at a music store some time ago. Maybe it's because of the guy played his own patches. Better play the presets ;-). Anyway, ⚓ for me, don't play live so I can live with the slow touchscreen. And I don't miss aftertouch. All three sound great, but the ⚓ stands out for me. There is something in it, which sparks some emotions and inspiration which I don't experience with the other two.
I agree. And Roland Fantom does have the advantage that it can actually use 4 engines at the same time (TONE(MFX + EQ) + Mixer + Analog FX). Page 14 of the Fantom Owners Manual.
@@ThadGuidry Korg Kronos and Nautilus does that too. You can make a combi that uses all 9 engines from what I've heard in the Kronos. Not sure about the Nautilus but I would imagine so.
All 3 sounding different, but all top knotch.. in general you want all 3 brands in your setup, as they have different features and strengths.. thats why i have a Montage, a kronos and the Roland Jupiter X and integra 7
@@forrestperkins6237 not really, but i have a nice job, not related to my musical hobby, which pays quite well…. Next to that i mostly buy used gear at sharp prices, and then sell it a small time later with some proffit, i am never in a hurry, so this makes the hobby less expensive….
I am a total beginner in the world of workstations but I would like to buy one of these 3 models. I'm a bit confused. When you say that these 3 brands have the same audio characteristics, what do you mean? Maybe this will help me make my choice.
I absolutely love your demos, they're the first I watch. You manage to get some amazing sounds with your patches which I will be buying in bulk soon. As an owner of a fantom 7, modx and nautilus, I was super thrilled to see this video announced. Keep up the good work!
i feel the Yamaha have sound very deep and so MUCH details, fantom beautifull sound (close of the Montage) and korg not same level but very nice ; so for me : 1*/ Montage 2*/ Fantom 3*/Nautilus ..... but they don't have same price Montage (4 500€) & Fantom (4 200€) close to the double of Nautilus price (2 449€), so Price/Quality : Nautilus i think is really not bad ! ! ! merci pour cette vidéo :-)
Keyboard player here for nearly 40 years. I don't know what it is about Korg but I have never liked anything from them. I was really impressed with the Roland. You really need to hear these on high end converters to hear the difference but it sounds like the Roland is using superior converters and analog path to montage. Everything sounds clearer and more well defined on the Roland where the Montage sounds a little murky by comparison. That is coming from a Montage owner.
Ich hoffe ich verstehe dich richtig, kommt es mir auch so vor, dass bei Montage Die sounds etwas hmm gekünstelt rüberkommen, oder liegt das an der Aufnahme?!? Nicht falsch verstehen😊 mir kommt der Sound von yamaha sehr gepusht rüber..
@@MTXODIN Ich weiß was du meinst. Ich hab mir einen Montage 6 gekauft und hab ihn sofort wieder zurück geschickt. Klingt in meine Ohren so heftig Digital und verspielt.
Der Höreindruck ist ja bei jeden Menschen unterschiedlich. Bei mir wäre es: Roland, Yamaha, Korg .. Wenn man aber bedenkt, daß man auch bei Roland die sounds komplett anpassen kann, wie man möchte- komplett offen. So würde ich an den Montage locker vom Sound her rankommen. Montag ist kein schlechtes Werkzeug. Aber ich liebe den Roland sound etwas mehr. Wenn man dann noch bedenkt, auch die ganzen Expansions.. Ich kann sagen wow, gänsehaut... Sorry in Englisch: The listening experience is different for everyone. For me it would be: Roland, Yamaha, Korg... But if you consider that with Roland you can also completely adjust the sounds as you like - completely open. So I would easily get close to the sound of the Montage. Montag is not a bad tool. But I love the Roland sound a little more. If you then consider all the expansions... I can say wow, goosebumps
@@AlexandrFromBeglovsk funny how I prefer the Korg. The orchestral sounds seem more natural and integrated into a whole better than the other two. The Yamaha second, Roland third overall. Generally disappointed by the Rhodes sounds. It’s an analogue machine and so hard to emulate.
Congratulations on the video. I liked how you recorded the cameras and the instrument sequence, Roland-Korg-Yamaha, and then going back Yamaha-Korg-Roland.
Fantom top for sure. Montage always sounds hyper-real and sometimes but not always in a good way. Korg getting long in the tooth but has a mellower and I think a useful sound in the palette. They all have some irreplaceable sounds that do not overlap
Wow, I initially thought the Nautilus was great after binging on other demo's, but it actually sounds lo-fi, compared to the other two. Roland Fantom had a very nice presence to it.
I hear the same. Nevertheless, all three are commendable for their technological accomplishments, each with their own strengths - and anyway, you can tweak sounds to your taste, later. I like Korg's complex idea-generating concept ( for ex. the surprising behavior of the two Arps ) and their drums.
This is due to the fact that the guy plays his own patches. The Nautilus is in no way lo-fi. I compared all three. The comparison does not the reflect the whole picture. If the Nautilus would sound like in the video the people wouldn't praise it. All the sparkle is gone, it sounds thin and muddy in the video. But it's quite the opposite the Nautilus has a great low end, great midst and sparkling high frequencies. It's not that the other two are bad, they are excellent, but the representation of the Nautilus doesn't reflect its potential.
@@thorstenweimar1190 the "digital" sparkle you mean, whith are not HI-FI but needles.All what has Roland or yamaha i can find in Logic etc... what has korg NOT
Hi Guys, Isn't it fair to say that if yo are using the exact DK Synth patches loaded across all 3 boards then it all come down to how the (in basic terms) the electronics and the design inside boards by the manufacture? T do a comparison you need to have a constant and using the same DK Synth patches is that constant Just my thoughts. ElectricEddie😎
@@ElectricEddieDaus Well, I do love the Montage / Yamaha sounds, but I did a comparison at a Music Store. To me the Nautilus sounds richer, but of course it all depends on personal preference. I am not so much familiar with the Roland stuff though. But it’s fair to say all three provide fantastic sounds. The only point I am making is the sound coming from the Nautilus in this video doesn’t reflect my own experience.
I had the Montage 8then the Kronos 2 88 and now the Fantom 8. I have decided that the Fantom 8 works best for me as it has an easier workflow and UI in my opinion. I can say that the Montage has the edge with the acoustic and FM sounds. The Kronos with its 9 separate synth engines definitely has the capability of doing anything covered. Fantom has a certain warmth about it and love the keybed feel. Each one of these is an amazing instrument in its own right. All comes down to personal taste and workflow preference.
Sound quality will always be subjective. The truth is that every workstation in this vid is an amazing instruments, each having their strengths and weaknesses. It’s just down to personal taste. I’d own all three if I could pull it off financially.
Same here, but I hate the Nautilus interface, I'd rather have the Kronos instead, or a Krome EX, or I can stick to my M50, also the better interface, even if it doesn't sound as good.
Как по мне, самое яркое звучание (более очерченное, чёткое что ли) у "Ямахи Монтаж", у "Наутилуса" звучание глубокое, я бы даже описал его, как "тёмное"... Фантом же звучит сбалансировано и я бы добавил некую "матовость" в его звучании. А так, конечно, как говорится: "на вкус и цвет - карандаши разные", а аппараты классные! И спасибо за иллюстрацию звучания этих прекрасных инструментов!
I have the Fantom 88 key. They all sound great and your playing is A1. Regardless of what keyboard you're playing, one can always compensate with additional effects. New sub and thanks for uploading👍
as keyboard musicians, we should thank our lucky stars to have keyboards like this available to us these days.....Yes, there are slight differences, but I think we need to keep in mind that Montage and Fantom are the flagship most expensive in their respective lines and Nautilus, which is just right there with them, costs half as much. I would also like to add that certain keyboards excel in certain sounds over others.....This comparison was limited to just piano, acoustic or electric and various strings and pads....When you start to get into such things as Guitar sounds, you will start to see a much bigger difference between them.
Everything sounds great! From a feature standpoint of view, I would probably go 1. Roland, 2. Montage, and 3. Korg but would gladly play any. Thanks for the vid.
All three synth are unique and beautiful custom made sounds! Good job! Only Roland sounds programmed with les sustain or reverb - delay affects ! Love your channel!
The three of them sound amazing. This are only similar sounds, you can’t compare for example an orchestral sound of a keyboard with another, they will sound different, but I find that with Nautilus and Kronos you have infinite sound capabilities, even with the pianos, there is no other workstation in wich you can edit sounds that much. But at the end it is a matter of taste and the machine you feel comfortable with
To be honest my guy.. I wasn't even listening to the difference because your chord progression was AMAZING!! 🔥🔥🔥 I fell into the groove like I got pushed into a pool!! You didn't speak but them chords said A LOT!! 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾😎😎
Самое полезно сравнение. Сразу видна разница. Мне лично понравился Nautilus. Звучание, которое не нужно добалять и крутить кучу ручек. Уже всё звучит, как задумано. Создатели вложили в него всё, что нужно. Правда, когда захочется поэкспериментировать, то крутилки могут понадобиться, это очевидно. Но, кажется там их есть минимальное количество. Надеюсь этого будет достаточно, что бы удовлетворить ненасытный вкус алхимика музыки. Высочайшая оценка исполнителю и тому, кто подал идею данного сравнительного звукового и тембрального анализа вживую. Это было круто!
All three are great but each brand defines their own style and sound. Roland's broad interface and button layout makes for a more intuitive setup but I find Korg's GUI in general way better on the display (at least the Pa5x). Just more straightforward and laid out far simpler. Rolands sequencer is really good, Korg always brings in the best synth sounds, while the Montage is sort of an all-rounder though with excellent orchestral patches but the interface seems complicated. There's no bad choice just depends on what works best for your experience and budget. They can all do pretty much the same thing and get you from A to B.
Yep, Montage wins I say - used to have Nautilus and returned it (88 key version). Fantom never got me due to look and feel even for synths it sounds really great. Thanks for such review.
I truly want to thank you for your time and incredible talent! Your are a great help in helping us determine which keyboard/workstation is right for us. Now when you demonstrate each sound or preset, and it shows (dks) Rhode, is that sound customized by you? Or is that a factory preset? Personally I prefer the Fantom. But those models are a bit out of my budget. But I am considering the Fantom 0 series. Thanks again DKS!
Thank you Scott, yes the sounds with DKS name are created or edited by me :) for the fantom you can find some of my sounds on synthonia.com (you can find the link at my website under the synth patches pages). My Fantom-06 will be here in next few days so soon online you can find some comparison between fantom and fantom-0
@@DKS-SYNTH-LAB I have a Roland FA 07, and really enjoy it. But I’m tempted to upgrade to the Fantom 07. The FA 07 was as close as I could get to the Fantom, but now they have a somewhat more affordable FANTOM 0. Thanks again DKS!
Korg is my preference! When your layering tracks they can easily be mixed. Roland sounds fight for attention, sometimes that’s a good thing. A punchy sound without drums . I jus like the montage however I’ve never made a song with 1. So I can’t really speak on it. But based of this video it sounds more similar to Roland’s punchy nd bright sound. I could work with any of them happily but I prefer korg most
Thank you very much for this very instructive comparison! The Korg Kronos instead of the Nautilus would be better and fairer at equivalent prices. From my personal home studio experience (mine has 40 synthesizers...), Roland's sounds are superior, but I've encountered problems with midi implementations, especially on a network. Korg disappointed me with its manufacturing expense policy, but the sounds are good. Finally for Yamaha, the reliability of the electronic circuits and their durable qualities are an asset, but the polyphony is more limited. This is a subjective opinion, because the best synthesizers are very expensive. It takes for all budgets, but now the ship is also good.
@@DKS-SYNTH-LAB All Ready👌😊 have Sebastian Lead, Trumpet Ensemble, FM Slow Pad V5, CelloAF1 best Cello on my Montage, Pizzicato Str, Solo 1st Violin, Saw Power, Mid Strings 5, Slow Str-12, Full Orchestra 3 that choir on the end is...Full Orchestra 2, Falling, Pad v3, French Horns, Tyrant intro, Full Strings3 that's is phenomenal I would like 👂Guitars And Some like Orginal Montage have The Hybrid Brass Sec and that patch will by 1 of the Best One 🏆👂
The Korg would have sounded better with a bit of volume boost, it seemed to be lower in volume. I would give the upper midrange a small boost with EQ, too.
I wish Yamaha and Korg would get back together like they wore in the 80s. That would be a wonderful combination. Roland's no joke they're one of my favorite Brands the last keyboard I had was the roland V Syinth which was one of the best keyboards I think I my opinion. Sadly had to get rid of it
Winners for my taste: Piano: Korg Strings: Korg Rhodes: Korg Big Pads: Roland 80s piano: Yamaha FM piano: Roland/Yamaha tie Pluck synth: Roland Dulcimer: Roland/Korg tie Slow pad: Roland Roland: 5 wins Korg: 4 wins Yamaha: 2 wins But either way, they all sound incredible. Just a matter of taste. They are all winners in the sound department. You cant lose with niether of these. Then its just all about workflow.
Grande potenza di fuoco in tutte e tre le macchine , non mi sento di dare una classifica , sonorità e potenzialità di alto livello in tutte, solo il gusto personale può determinare eventualmente la scelta di una rispetto alle altre. Bella demo, grazie sempre per le opportunità che ci date anche solo per farcele ascoltare.
They all have a different great sounds. For me Nautilus's Italian piano and downloadable orchestral pads is the best, but phantom have great choir and synt pads, and Yamaha have a great synt and strings pads. I need all of them❤😂 Thank you for great review 👍
I have all 3 but I think the nautilus is my favourite but they are all very capable, edit after two months I would say 1 Roland 2 Korg 3 Yamaha., but to clarify we have never had it so good all these machines today are monsters. My overall favourites for live are Nord stage 3 and Nord wave though
Sorry dear naturalis is half the price of the two monstars , montage and deepmind12 are the ones on stage which makes the difference , as per me as musicians we can share views
Especially sounds that was on the Triton ,E MU, Roland V syinth, Motif ,sampling all that Not hear today. These sounds were a lot better on these older machines
@@Johnsicadda2433 true does depend on the person using this equipment and if they know how. So yes I do agree the Montage is a beast of today's workstations.l had the Montage 6 but I sadly returned it now I can't get it for the same price. I think today's workstations are good and they all have their PowerPoints . I was considering buying the Montage again but they won't lower the price I had it at 2,500 new at one time but that was two years ago. As far as Korg the only instrument I have ever dealt with is the Triton which was recent I found it to have some very organic sounds compared to nowadays not saying it's better but most definitely different and sound great to this day I would like to have a montage and a Triton rack the thing I love about Montage 8 scenes and you can record each track at whatever measure you want and then it loops this is especially handy for producers and people that don't want to use a computer like I said I'm from the 90s using a computer was not my way of making music that was with a digital recorder which they don't make too many of these days I used to use the RR 8 by Boss so now I'm kind of stuck on what I should buy for making electronic music but not repetitive electronic music I don't want to go to computer route but I think I need it for control options sequencing and all that other things unless you know an alternative route
I love talking about synthesizers and I respect your opinions if you have any advice about workaround flows of making electronic music with computers or what digital recorders you can use these days for making music with Hardware synthesizers. I would still like to use digital recorders one thing that attracted me about the Nautilus was the 16-track audio recorder since they don't make audio recorders like they did in the year 2000 like I said I used to use a BR 8 recorder for all of my keyboards and have all my keyboards synchronized off a master keyboard so the tempo would match off of every keyboard I had especially good for using arpeggiator to this day I still use E MU Yamaha Roland
All three of them are so great but I think the Korg Nautilus has extra features up it's sleeves in the main screen. Different variations and programmable virtual instruments within this monstrous hardware synth. Pretty amazing! Love to hear your thoughts as well.
Korg has the sound quality specially for the piano and strings. Hard to beat. They are all Japanese brands though. I live in Japan and their price here is cheaper compared to overseas. If you always use piano and strings, korg’s sound will cut through he band setting and will stand out. The sound is engineered to cut through the groove.😊
Korg for me although I have the Korg Oasys, Korg wavestate, Yamaha Motif, Roland Jupiter 80 and XM. So me for me it’s a hard decision since all 3 in this demo sound very good I would buy the most economical priced unit which I think is the MODX Plus.
Definitely Montage. It has a class compliant multichannel audio interface that works perfectly (low latency) even with iOS (e.g. Cubasis). DAW (Mackie) control. And you can easily switch off USB audio loopback, which is not possible on the Nautilus. Roland does not have class compliant audio interfaces. The new Montage M even comes with a software plug-in, that has all sounds.
I want all three🤣 i think no single synth dominated the other two here on all category. Always been a roland fan, korg 2nd and i have to say yamaha is just as good.
I think when You chance the camera view the sound of korg down ... In some views the sound it's better ... But i really like the pianos and eps from fantom ... It's the better sound in some things and Yamaha in others
1st... great job....I can see good on all 3 boards....Surprised you didn't do acoustic guitar sounds... I guess because Roland and Korg never could get it right yet..Montage does a very good job on the acoustic guitar, but still room for improvement... I do own the Montage, and the Korg Kronos. and an older verrsion of the Fantom.. I heard the Nautilus AT is suppose to have some new sounds, having the after touch will help...
Regarding the sounds (quality for acoustic and electric pianos) and sequencing which is the best for you? And more... which keybed is your favourite and the worst and why. Thanks.
What's with the Sounds? Are these the Stock sounds of the Keyboard or modified and labeled as DKS Sounds ? I see DKS Sounds coming up in the lower left on every new sound. If that's the case then we are not hearing the stock sounds, correct? Can you explain? Thx ElectricEddie
Yes, exactly.. i’ve programmed my own sounds into all three machines and this is how close or not they are.. with preset you can’t do a good comparison, because synths has to be programmed first for better result..
Interface wise, all three are pretty similar although I will say that the Yamaha looks a little more complicated for anyone that hasn't owned a Yamaha keyboard before (like me). Pianos wise, I want to say an even tie with Yamaha and the Korg Nautilus, considering that 98% of the sounds in the Nautilus are based off of the Kronos but that being said, that's a subjective subject as everyone is different. All the other sounds though, well each keyboard is unique and it just depends on what you like hearing sound wise.
My takes. Piano: Montage takes it by a long shot, I did expect that though as I expected Yamaha to do a perfect job capturing *their own* pianos. I slightly prefered the Fantom over the Nautilus because it sounds like it has higher quality samples and generally knows what it wants to be. In short Montage sounded like a big concert or stadium piano, Fantom sounded like a Jazz piano, Nautilus sounded kinda generic Strings: Montage takes it, sounds the most open to my ears and I think it's for the same reason as the pianos probably, Yamaha makes stringed instruments aswell. Nautilus has this weird ultra scooped processed vibe to it which is cool in a way but not that useful, Fantom sounds a bit flat compared to both but the sample quality sounds higher to me than the Nautilus. Rhodes: Totally different types of Rhodes sounds, very hard to compare. I do prefer the warmth of the Fantom in this case with the Montage being a close second. Nautilus sounded weird an not like any real Rhodes I know of. Big pad: Fantom takes it by far, you can hear that's clearly a Jupiter or a JP8000 style sound. Nautilus does have a cool thing going on in a more modern sense, didn't like the Montage at all this time, sounded a bit generic for me. 80s piano: Montage takes it for me, it's literally the real thing basically as it uses FM for that sound! Honestly sounds similar to a particular patch I like on the SY99. the MK80 emulation on the Fantom also sounds incredible. Nautilus sounds like it has no real reference and can't come close to both the others when it comes to capturing that period of time authentically, but it's a nice nostalgic yet modern sound for synthwave. FM Piano: again, Montage is basically the real thing. the Fantom does sample the real thing really well and the Nautilus sounds like what a "80s piano" patch should sound like and doesn't even try to emulate the real thing. Pluck synth: I liked all of them but Fantom takes it for me, again sounds like it's definitely an emulation of one of Roland's legendary analogs. Nautilus sounds very interesting in a modern way and Montage actually sounds like it might be FM here too! Dulcimer synth: All have their own character, but I'd have to pick the Nautilus for this one. Not sure what I like about it so much here but it is what it is. Montage sounds like an interesting combo of a muted piano and a supersaw and Fantom actaully sounded kinda ethnic in a cool way. Slow pad: Fantom takes it, love how so much is going on there. Nautilus has a weird range to it but sounds nice, Montage to me sounds a bit too harsh. In conclusion: Montage for real instrument sounds, Fantom for synths. But honestly if synths is the strength of the Fantom I'd rather get a Jupiter X for that :D
Let's face it, of the 3, Yamaha got the shorter end of the stick with the Montage (which never got close to the success of the Motif). The Nautilus continues the legacy of the amazing Kronos, and this is Roland's best Fantom yet. Overall I would say 1) Nautilus 2) Fantom 3) Montage
Ciao, ho capito adesso che sei italiano 😂 ma come qualità del tasto quale è per te la migliore? Io ho provato Nautilus 61 e non mi é piaciuta, però Nautilus 73 era tutto un altro pianeta (in meglio ovviamente). Fantom-07 mi é piaciuta tantissimo ma non so se sia uguale al Fantom-6. Da affiancare ad uno stage piano volevo prendere una workstation evoluta la con una bella keybed, quale consigli.per la keybed? In ogni caso il Nautilus mi attira molto per rapporto qualità/prezzo e suoni (Korg io li adoro).
Ciao, nautilus 6 e 7 sono assolutamente identiche come tasto 😅 è la stessa meccanica. Fantom e fantom 0 hanno meccaniche diverse e fantom-0 non ha aftertouch (come nemmeno nautilus). Se ti piacciono i suoni Korg sai cosa scegliere 😉
@@DKS-SYNTH-LAB 🤣 Mitico, grazie mille. Canale stupendo e bellissime recensioni. Si io ho lasciato il cuore 30nanninfa al non acquisto di Wavestation e poi i Rhodes Korg li adoro. Mi arrischieró a prendere un Nautilus 61 (73 non ho spazio che é già impegnato dallo stage piano). Poi Nautilus ha un sequencer con editing "livello nota" come Roland che manca a Yamaha ed inoltre ha funzioni di campionatore che mi intrippano. Grazie ancora e continua così! 👍🏻🙂 P.S.: ma come keybed tra i tre top qual'è per te la più precisa e quindi migliore?
@@federicovalmassoni3827 in questo video il Nautilus esce molto male, e anche la scelta dei preset per il confronto non era delle migliori, ti assicuro che è molto meglio da quello che hai ascoltato
I had a Nautilus 88 and traded it and a Kawai MP7 for the Roland Fantom 08, best move I ever made.. I also have the Yamaha Modx7 and it has the same sounds as the Montage, so in my opinion I have 2 of the best sounding boards at a very reasonable price.. The Nautilus is a good board, but I owned the OASYS and the Kronos prior to the Nautilus and the Nautilus didn't shine at all.. Heavy, action is lacking for the price, screen is not as responsive as I would like, since everything you do is on the screen.. Also, it had lag when making changes on the screen, drawbars especially were a pain.. Acoustic sounds not as good as the Yamaha and Roland.. I only owned the Nautilus for a few gigs and it had to go, sorry Korg guys, but if you don't like Roland and Yamaha try a Kurzweil.........
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My take:
- Korg says: Listen how hyped and Full spectrum I am, I sound amazing in your headphones, who needs extra musicians anyway.
- Yamaha says: I know a band has multiple instruments, and I’m the most important.
- Roland says: I’ll let the mixing engineer decide my place in the mix.
It's easier to trim a full-spectrum sound than it is to blow up a lo-fi sound, I'd say.
@@xaverk Interesting point one which often gets overlooked. How things sit in the mix. And for the most part you will find you need to trim sounds to make them play nice together not boost them. In fact, the more instruments, the more trimming is the usual work around. So Id agree with Filip, the premise being that Roland would require less attenuating than the others. Perhaps that's what they mean by SUPERNatural sounds. But just because something sounds more natural doesn't mean it sounds better. Same thing can be said about keys. On guitar the easier the neck is to play the better, on keys it seems the opposite because of Piano Purists. I neither like cheap toy feeling keybeds but after a days hard work and returning home to long hours of hardcore workhorsing I wouldn't mind my piggies being more at ease with a quality synth feel. Performing and recording I may go the other way with heavier weighted keys. The point being everything is a medium. Even our biological appendages. If we can compose straight from our minds things would be a lot different. That's as organic and natural as it can get. Everything else is just moonshine. Perhaps thats why singers are the frontmen in the spotlight. They use the least mediums. We are Ghosts in the machine/Spirits in the material world after all
@@Voitcu I don't want to disagree at all. I just want to make you think that the electronic imitation, even just the reproduction through loudspeakers of very good, mature acoustic instruments is always worse than the original. Synthesizer sounds can also sound very nice to our ears and are not so problematic, since no comparison to acoustic instruments is possible or meaningful. The fact that singers are always the center of attention is due to the fact that the majority of our fellow human beings do not recognize music without singing as music. Most singers annoy me because they always push themselves into the foreground and in truth (usually) have the lowest qualifications of all accompanying musicians. And the worst intonation. Just my personal opinion. 🤗
@@xaverk Just had to comment to agree with you. Voitcu can try to argue that it's already 'precut' to play nice better, but the fact of the matter is that you can't create something that isn't there. It's always better to have more, because you can't boost something to compensate for something that isn't even there in the first place.
@@xaverk btw Id since purchased the Montage8 WH, and not just because the Fantom 07 I tried is only compatible with Mac OS 15 and higher, I use Mojave
It all comes down to workflow, and what workflow fits best for you. You can import samples and work them with ALL these flagship synthesizer workstations. The examples you hear in this video is what they have to offer out of stock, meaning - the sounds that came with the keyboards. They're all top-of-the-line synths, and if you find one that fits your style of playing and working, then that's the one you should use. They all have enough punch to deliver basically any sound experience you want, it all comes down to the sample sets you use, the synthesizer variations and filters you add on top of that, you can twist and mangle every sound to your liking on ALL these keyboards. (I have the Montage btw, but I honestly like the workflow and menues of the Roland Fantom much better, I just got the Montage because I got it for a crazy bargain). Bottom line is - you'll be happy if you can afford any of these.
+ the keybed must be considered, Nautilus has no AT, Phantom has a crazy AT velocity curve (extremely hard), the Montage seems to be superior here. Rg the samples - this is true, but the other thing is the synth engines and how to work with these samples. Another level is the dsp power, Roland rules in this case, no glitches, no freezes, best display. I have the Kronos II and the display is really bad and the machine is booting 80 seconds and is overall quite slow. The Roland workflow is the best, simple (in comparison to the Kronos), but the keybed (88) is not for everybody. It is not an easy decision!
Korg Nautilus for me, then Fantom last is Montage. Thank you!
@@DynamteKid316 nautilus is poor with mid frequencies
@@gustafkey1608 Then I would go for Korg Kronos 2.
I have to admit that my own Nautilus sounds far better than in that comparison. In that video its sound seems a bit muddy, which is not the case at all.
I tried all of them at a music store some time ago. Maybe it's because of the guy played his own patches. Better play the presets ;-).
Anyway, ⚓ for me, don't play live so I can live with the slow touchscreen. And I don't miss aftertouch.
All three sound great, but the ⚓ stands out for me. There is something in it, which sparks some emotions and inspiration which I don't experience with the other two.
Roland Fantom wins the race. I use both the others but never expected Fantom will sound this great. Thank you for the review.
It sounds like this in this setting, but in reality the Korg sounds much better with the ideal setting, competing with the other two.
For me:
1. Roland Fantom
2. Yamaha Montage
3. Korg Nautilus
Thank you!!! Amazing Sounds.
I agree. And Roland Fantom does have the advantage that it can actually use 4 engines at the same time (TONE(MFX + EQ) + Mixer + Analog FX). Page 14 of the Fantom Owners Manual.
Yeah this is how I feel. Roland and Yamaha are pretty even with Roland having a slight edge over Roland. All great keyboards.
Roland for me too.
@@ThadGuidry Korg Kronos and Nautilus does that too. You can make a combi that uses all 9 engines from what I've heard in the Kronos. Not sure about the Nautilus but I would imagine so.
Same answer here....
I rate draw for Roland and Yamaha when it comes to (mostly) their FM tone...
All 3 sounding different, but all top knotch.. in general you want all 3 brands in your setup, as they have different features and strengths.. thats why i have a Montage, a kronos and the Roland Jupiter X and integra 7
Lucky you!
Awesome deadly combination love it!
Do you work for nasa?
@@forrestperkins6237 not really, but i have a nice job, not related to my musical hobby, which pays quite well…. Next to that i mostly buy used gear at sharp prices, and then sell it a small time later with some proffit, i am never in a hurry, so this makes the hobby less expensive….
having both the Montage and the Jupiter X is meta :D
Fascinating. 25 years on and these three brands still have the same audio characteristics as they always have.
I am a total beginner in the world of workstations but I would like to buy one of these 3 models. I'm a bit confused. When you say that these 3 brands have the same audio characteristics, what do you mean? Maybe this will help me make my choice.
@@-Anthony.C-you should go for yamaha only
I absolutely love your demos, they're the first I watch. You manage to get some amazing sounds with your patches which I will be buying in bulk soon. As an owner of a fantom 7, modx and nautilus, I was super thrilled to see this video announced. Keep up the good work!
Thank you!! 😊
Hey please!!!! How would you compare them? Im literally between buying one of those, on 88Key basis
I also own a Nautilul & MODX and am lusting after a Fantom 06 just to have the Roland Flavor....Will it give me something major diff
Подскажите пожалуйста, как владелец Nautilus и Modx - какой из них по Вашему звучит лучше?
Please tell me, as an owner of Nautilus and Modx - which one of them sounds better to you?
i feel the Yamaha have sound very deep and so MUCH details, fantom beautifull sound (close of the Montage) and korg not same level but very nice ; so for me : 1*/ Montage 2*/ Fantom 3*/Nautilus ..... but they don't have same price Montage (4 500€) & Fantom (4 200€) close to the double of Nautilus price (2 449€), so Price/Quality : Nautilus i think is really not bad ! ! ! merci pour cette vidéo :-)
Thank you is not enough for giving us this amazing and beautiful playing!
Keyboard player here for nearly 40 years. I don't know what it is about Korg but I have never liked anything from them. I was really impressed with the Roland. You really need to hear these on high end converters to hear the difference but it sounds like the Roland is using superior converters and analog path to montage. Everything sounds clearer and more well defined on the Roland where the Montage sounds a little murky by comparison. That is coming from a Montage owner.
Ich hoffe ich verstehe dich richtig, kommt es mir auch so vor, dass bei Montage Die sounds etwas hmm gekünstelt rüberkommen, oder liegt das an der Aufnahme?!? Nicht falsch verstehen😊 mir kommt der Sound von yamaha sehr gepusht rüber..
I still have a Roland VS880EX. The converters are pretty good.
@@MTXODIN Ich weiß was du meinst. Ich hab mir einen Montage 6 gekauft und hab ihn sofort wieder zurück geschickt. Klingt in meine Ohren so heftig Digital und verspielt.
Montage is best. Roland second. Korg third. But all dreams for me.
Dude, I agree.
if you are here after all this, just get one. It will change your life.
Der Höreindruck ist ja bei jeden Menschen unterschiedlich. Bei mir wäre es: Roland, Yamaha, Korg .. Wenn man aber bedenkt, daß man auch bei Roland die sounds komplett anpassen kann, wie man möchte- komplett offen. So würde ich an den Montage locker vom Sound her rankommen. Montag ist kein schlechtes Werkzeug. Aber ich liebe den Roland sound etwas mehr. Wenn man dann noch bedenkt, auch die ganzen Expansions.. Ich kann sagen wow, gänsehaut...
Sorry in Englisch: The listening experience is different for everyone. For me it would be: Roland, Yamaha, Korg... But if you consider that with Roland you can also completely adjust the sounds as you like - completely open. So I would easily get close to the sound of the Montage. Montag is not a bad tool. But I love the Roland sound a little more. If you then consider all the expansions... I can say wow, goosebumps
@@AlexandrFromBeglovsk funny how I prefer the Korg. The orchestral sounds seem more natural and integrated into a whole better than the other two. The Yamaha second, Roland third overall. Generally disappointed by the Rhodes sounds. It’s an analogue machine and so hard to emulate.
Roland seems the most balanced in this game
Fantom - 0 Used it in my set at the long beach jazz festival. Love it.
Congratulations on the video. I liked how you recorded the cameras and the instrument sequence, Roland-Korg-Yamaha, and then going back Yamaha-Korg-Roland.
Thank you! 😉
Fantom top for sure. Montage always sounds hyper-real and sometimes but not always in a good way. Korg getting long in the tooth but has a mellower and I think a useful sound in the palette. They all have some irreplaceable sounds that do not overlap
I thought I was the only one who had a problem (minor) with Yamaha's hyper-real tone...
@@jonathanarleys No, it's a thing. I feel the same way.
What is “hyper realistic”? Either it sounds real or doesn’t, there’s no in between!
@@werewolflover8636 sounds like a heavier reverb on the keys and a chorus effect .
Wow, I initially thought the Nautilus was great after binging on other demo's, but it actually sounds lo-fi, compared to the other two.
Roland Fantom had a very nice presence to it.
I hear the same. Nevertheless, all three are commendable for their technological accomplishments, each with their own strengths - and anyway, you can tweak sounds to your taste, later. I like Korg's complex idea-generating concept ( for ex. the surprising behavior of the two Arps ) and their drums.
This is due to the fact that the guy plays his own patches. The Nautilus is in no way lo-fi. I compared all three. The comparison does not the reflect the whole picture.
If the Nautilus would sound like in the video the people wouldn't praise it. All the sparkle is gone, it sounds thin and muddy in the video. But it's quite the opposite the Nautilus has a great low end, great midst and sparkling high frequencies.
It's not that the other two are bad, they are excellent, but the representation of the Nautilus doesn't reflect its potential.
@@thorstenweimar1190 the "digital" sparkle you mean, whith are not HI-FI but needles.All what has Roland or yamaha i can find in Logic etc... what has korg NOT
Hi Guys, Isn't it fair to say that if yo are using the exact DK Synth patches loaded across all 3 boards then it all come down to how the (in basic terms) the electronics and the design inside boards by the manufacture? T do a comparison you need to have a constant and using the same DK Synth patches is that constant Just my thoughts. ElectricEddie😎
@@ElectricEddieDaus Well, I do love the Montage / Yamaha sounds, but I did a comparison at a Music Store. To me the Nautilus sounds richer, but of course it all depends on personal preference. I am not so much familiar with the Roland stuff though. But it’s fair to say all three provide fantastic sounds.
The only point I am making is the sound coming from the Nautilus in this video doesn’t reflect my own experience.
They all sound great. I use a Montage, Hydrasynth and a Deepmind 12 for all my albums. I feel like they make one giant supersynth when used together.
Yeah I got a similar set up now n love it!!
I had the Montage 8then the Kronos 2 88 and now the Fantom 8. I have decided that the Fantom 8 works best for me as it has an easier workflow and UI in my opinion. I can say that the Montage has the edge with the acoustic and FM sounds. The Kronos with its 9 separate synth engines definitely has the capability of doing anything covered. Fantom has a certain warmth about it and love the keybed feel. Each one of these is an amazing instrument in its own right. All comes down to personal taste and workflow preference.
I don't know why I like it better, I just know the Montage gets me hyped.
Try out the new Montage M if you can!! 🙂
Sound quality will always be subjective. The truth is that every workstation in this vid is an amazing instruments, each having their strengths and weaknesses. It’s just down to personal taste. I’d own all three if I could pull it off financially.
Same here, but I hate the Nautilus interface, I'd rather have the Kronos instead, or a Krome EX, or I can stick to my M50, also the better interface, even if it doesn't sound as good.
With big price range
3 awesome and powerfull synth, but my favorite is Roland Fantom.
Как по мне, самое яркое звучание (более очерченное, чёткое что ли) у "Ямахи Монтаж", у "Наутилуса" звучание глубокое, я бы даже описал его, как "тёмное"... Фантом же звучит сбалансировано и я бы добавил некую "матовость" в его звучании. А так, конечно, как говорится: "на вкус и цвет - карандаши разные", а аппараты классные! И спасибо за иллюстрацию звучания этих прекрасных инструментов!
1.Montage, 2.Nautilus, 3.Fantom. based on this demo.for me
I have the Fantom 88 key. They all sound great and your playing is A1. Regardless of what keyboard you're playing, one can always compensate with additional effects. New sub and thanks for uploading👍
as keyboard musicians, we should thank our lucky stars to have keyboards like this available to us these days.....Yes, there are slight differences, but I think we need to keep in mind that Montage and Fantom are the flagship most expensive in their respective lines and Nautilus, which is just right there with them, costs half as much. I would also like to add that certain keyboards excel in certain sounds over others.....This comparison was limited to just piano, acoustic or electric and various strings and pads....When you start to get into such things as Guitar sounds, you will start to see a much bigger difference between them.
Everything sounds great! From a feature standpoint of view, I would probably go 1. Roland, 2. Montage, and 3. Korg but would gladly play any. Thanks for the vid.
Wow. I love the Montage and the Fantom
All three synth are unique and beautiful custom made sounds! Good job! Only Roland sounds programmed with les sustain or reverb - delay affects ! Love your channel!
The three of them sound amazing. This are only similar sounds, you can’t compare for example an orchestral sound of a keyboard with another, they will sound different, but I find that with Nautilus and Kronos you have infinite sound capabilities, even with the pianos, there is no other workstation in wich you can edit sounds that much. But at the end it is a matter of taste and the machine you feel comfortable with
To be honest my guy.. I wasn't even listening to the difference because your chord progression was AMAZING!! 🔥🔥🔥 I fell into the groove like I got pushed into a pool!! You didn't speak but them chords said A LOT!! 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾😎😎
Thx man 😉👊
Самое полезно сравнение. Сразу видна разница. Мне лично понравился Nautilus. Звучание, которое не нужно добалять и крутить кучу ручек. Уже всё звучит, как задумано. Создатели вложили в него всё, что нужно. Правда, когда захочется поэкспериментировать, то крутилки могут понадобиться, это очевидно. Но, кажется там их есть минимальное количество. Надеюсь этого будет достаточно, что бы удовлетворить ненасытный вкус алхимика музыки. Высочайшая оценка исполнителю и тому, кто подал идею данного сравнительного звукового и тембрального анализа вживую. Это было круто!
All three are great but each brand defines their own style and sound. Roland's broad interface and button layout makes for a more intuitive setup but I find Korg's GUI in general way better on the display (at least the Pa5x). Just more straightforward and laid out far simpler. Rolands sequencer is really good, Korg always brings in the best synth sounds, while the Montage is sort of an all-rounder though with excellent orchestral patches but the interface seems complicated. There's no bad choice just depends on what works best for your experience and budget. They can all do pretty much the same thing and get you from A to B.
Yep, Montage wins I say - used to have Nautilus and returned it (88 key version). Fantom never got me due to look and feel even for synths it sounds really great. Thanks for such review.
I truly want to thank you for your time and incredible talent!
Your are a great help in helping us determine which keyboard/workstation is right for us.
Now when you demonstrate each sound or preset, and it shows (dks) Rhode, is that sound customized by you?
Or is that a factory preset?
Personally I prefer the Fantom. But those models are a bit out of my budget. But I am considering the Fantom 0 series.
Thanks again DKS!
Thank you Scott, yes the sounds with DKS name are created or edited by me :) for the fantom you can find some of my sounds on synthonia.com (you can find the link at my website under the synth patches pages). My Fantom-06 will be here in next few days so soon online you can find some comparison between fantom and fantom-0
@@DKS-SYNTH-LAB I have a Roland FA 07, and really enjoy it. But I’m tempted to upgrade to the Fantom 07.
The FA 07 was as close as I could get to the Fantom, but now they have a somewhat more affordable FANTOM 0.
Thanks again DKS!
Korg is my preference! When your layering tracks they can easily be mixed. Roland sounds fight for attention, sometimes that’s a good thing. A punchy sound without drums . I jus like the montage however I’ve never made a song with 1. So I can’t really speak on it. But based of this video it sounds more similar to Roland’s punchy nd bright sound. I could work with any of them happily but I prefer korg most
Very nice setup having all those keyboards making any music you want
Thank you very much for this very instructive comparison! The Korg Kronos instead of the Nautilus would be better and fairer at equivalent prices. From my personal home studio experience (mine has 40 synthesizers...), Roland's sounds are superior, but I've encountered problems with midi implementations, especially on a network. Korg disappointed me with its manufacturing expense policy, but the sounds are good. Finally for Yamaha, the reliability of the electronic circuits and their durable qualities are an asset, but the polyphony is more limited. This is a subjective opinion, because the best synthesizers are very expensive. It takes for all budgets, but now the ship is also good.
Roland fantom❤️❤️🔥🔥🔥
Each of us are different no doubt but for me, Yamaha 1, Korg 2, and Roland 3 - which surprises me.
Yamaha Montage Fm Pad V3 winner all sound mate. Is like honey on my 👂.Interesting test.
You can download it on soundmondo for free ;)
@@DKS-SYNTH-LAB All Ready👌😊 have Sebastian Lead, Trumpet Ensemble, FM Slow Pad V5, CelloAF1 best Cello on my Montage, Pizzicato Str, Solo 1st Violin, Saw Power, Mid Strings 5, Slow Str-12, Full Orchestra 3 that choir on the end is...Full Orchestra 2, Falling, Pad v3, French Horns, Tyrant intro, Full Strings3 that's is phenomenal I would like 👂Guitars And Some like Orginal Montage have The Hybrid Brass Sec and that patch will by 1 of the Best One 🏆👂
Yamaha and Roland were neck and neck in sounds, the Korg Nautilus sounded dry and lackluster in comparison. Quite the surprise.
The Korg would have sounded better with a bit of volume boost, it seemed to be lower in volume. I would give the upper midrange a small boost with EQ, too.
Congrats on the video, that's a nice setup right there, 3 of the best keyboards, that's way too much power hahahaha
I wish Yamaha and Korg would get back together like they wore in the 80s. That would be a wonderful combination. Roland's no joke they're one of my favorite Brands the last keyboard I had was the roland V Syinth which was one of the best keyboards I think I my opinion. Sadly had to get rid of it
1) Montage 2) Fantom 3) Nautilus for me, but they all great keyboards
Люблю электронные клавишные инструменты и считаю, что это великое и гениальное изобретение 20-го и 21-го века.
Love that you do the same on each device!
Montage is the best sounds , and Fantom is the best all around , for me
Winners for my taste:
Piano: Korg
Strings: Korg
Rhodes: Korg
Big Pads: Roland
80s piano: Yamaha
FM piano: Roland/Yamaha tie
Pluck synth: Roland
Dulcimer: Roland/Korg tie
Slow pad: Roland
Roland: 5 wins
Korg: 4 wins
Yamaha: 2 wins
But either way, they all sound incredible. Just a matter of taste. They are all winners in the sound department. You cant lose with niether of these. Then its just all about workflow.
Grande potenza di fuoco in tutte e tre le macchine , non mi sento di dare una classifica , sonorità e potenzialità di alto livello in tutte, solo il gusto personale può determinare eventualmente la scelta di una rispetto alle altre. Bella demo, grazie sempre per le opportunità che ci date anche solo per farcele ascoltare.
That nautilus really shines out for me, other than the Rhodes sound (which sounds terrible in the nautilus) every other sound is incredible.
Montage 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👊🏻🔥😍❤️
😉
They all have a different great sounds. For me Nautilus's Italian piano and downloadable orchestral pads is the best, but phantom have great choir and synt pads, and Yamaha have a great synt and strings pads. I need all of them❤😂
Thank you for great review 👍
I have all 3 but I think the nautilus is my favourite but they are all very capable, edit after two months I would say 1 Roland 2 Korg 3 Yamaha., but to clarify we have never had it so good all these machines today are monsters. My overall favourites for live are Nord stage 3 and Nord wave though
Sorry dear naturalis is half the price of the two monstars , montage and deepmind12 are the ones on stage which makes the difference , as per me as musicians we can share views
Still people forget old keyboards from late 90s and late 2000s or incredible. And cannot reproduce that sound on these newer keyboards
Especially sounds that was on the Triton ,E MU, Roland V syinth, Motif ,sampling all that Not hear today. These sounds were a lot better on these older machines
@@Johnsicadda2433 true does depend on the person using this equipment and if they know how. So yes I do agree the Montage is a beast of today's workstations.l had the Montage 6 but I sadly returned it now I can't get it for the same price. I think today's workstations are good and they all have their PowerPoints . I was considering buying the Montage again but they won't lower the price I had it at 2,500 new at one time but that was two years ago. As far as Korg the only instrument I have ever dealt with is the Triton which was recent I found it to have some very organic sounds compared to nowadays not saying it's better but most definitely different and sound great to this day I would like to have a montage and a Triton rack the thing I love about Montage 8 scenes and you can record each track at whatever measure you want and then it loops this is especially handy for producers and people that don't want to use a computer like I said I'm from the 90s using a computer was not my way of making music that was with a digital recorder which they don't make too many of these days I used to use the RR 8 by Boss so now I'm kind of stuck on what I should buy for making electronic music but not repetitive electronic music I don't want to go to computer route but I think I need it for control options sequencing and all that other things unless you know an alternative route
I love talking about synthesizers and I respect your opinions if you have any advice about workaround flows of making electronic music with computers or what digital recorders you can use these days for making music with Hardware synthesizers. I would still like to use digital recorders one thing that attracted me about the Nautilus was the 16-track audio recorder since they don't make audio recorders like they did in the year 2000 like I said I used to use a BR 8 recorder for all of my keyboards and have all my keyboards synchronized off a master keyboard so the tempo would match off of every keyboard I had especially good for using arpeggiator to this day I still use E MU Yamaha Roland
which keybed do you prefer? which one do you like more how does it feel?
I love the FSX from Montage, very fast and silent action. But all three are great action ;)
I liked Korg warm sounds and synths are best on it
1 roland fantom, 2 yamaha montage e 3 korg natilus. ao meu gosto! ficaria em duvidas ainda com o roland e yamaha.
Everything sounded natural and without heavy FX on Roland 😊
Hi sir, what is the name of ending music?
I have it
#1Yamaha
#2 Rhodes
#3 Korg
It all depends on sound preference actually
1.Yamaha montage.
2.korg
3. Roland
All three of them are so great but I think the Korg Nautilus has extra features up it's sleeves in the main screen. Different variations and programmable virtual instruments within this monstrous hardware synth. Pretty amazing! Love to hear your thoughts as well.
To me, the actual best on the market is Montage M 😉
Korg has the sound quality specially for the piano and strings. Hard to beat. They are all Japanese brands though. I live in Japan and their price here is cheaper compared to overseas. If you always use piano and strings, korg’s sound will cut through he band setting and will stand out. The sound is engineered to cut through the groove.😊
Facts. It’s Korg for me if I could only have 2. Nd with extra money n time eventually the other two.
Korg for me although I have the Korg Oasys, Korg wavestate, Yamaha Motif, Roland Jupiter 80 and XM. So me for me it’s a hard decision since all 3 in this demo sound very good I would buy the most economical priced unit which I think is the MODX Plus.
Thoughts on K2700 in the mix?
In sounding first is yahama montage second roland fantom and third korg nautilus and feature soft function first fantom second montages third nautilus
Thank you for this.
Which one works best as a workstation/has the best DAW integration?
Definitely Montage. It has a class compliant multichannel audio interface that works perfectly (low latency) even with iOS (e.g. Cubasis). DAW (Mackie) control. And you can easily switch off USB audio loopback, which is not possible on the Nautilus. Roland does not have class compliant audio interfaces. The new Montage M even comes with a software plug-in, that has all sounds.
@@followyourpassion8378 thanks!
I want all three🤣 i think no single synth dominated the other two here on all category. Always been a roland fan, korg 2nd and i have to say yamaha is just as good.
I think when You chance the camera view the sound of korg down ... In some views the sound it's better ... But i really like the pianos and eps from fantom ... It's the better sound in some things and Yamaha in others
YAMAHA MONTAGE 8 😎🙌🏻♥️
Thank you.. I Prefer Yamaha Montage
MONTAGE is the best
Yamaha is the best!
1st... great job....I can see good on all 3 boards....Surprised you didn't do acoustic guitar sounds... I guess because Roland and Korg never could get it right yet..Montage does a very good job on the acoustic guitar, but still room for improvement... I do own the Montage, and the Korg Kronos. and an older verrsion of the Fantom.. I heard the Nautilus AT is suppose to have some new sounds, having the after touch will help...
The Montage and the Fantom have a similar sound, but the Korg lacks mid frequencies, as if it had a hole at 1kHz.
What does he use to switch the sounds with one click? The thing laying on the Fantom..🤔😱
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Wich one has the best 88 keybed for a piano player?
The cool thing about Roland is Zenolgy you have access to everything from Roland
What would be the substitute voice in Korg for Yamaha DX piano?
Regarding the sounds (quality for acoustic and electric pianos) and sequencing which is the best for you? And more... which keybed is your favourite and the worst and why. Thanks.
I love these japanese keyboards :D
AMAZING FLAGSHIP KEYBOARD
Montage RULES!
excellent review! and nice playing
What's with the Sounds?
Are these the Stock sounds of the Keyboard or modified and labeled as DKS Sounds ? I see DKS Sounds coming up in the lower left on every new sound. If that's the case then we are not hearing the stock sounds, correct? Can you explain?
Thx
ElectricEddie
Yes, exactly.. i’ve programmed my own sounds into all three machines and this is how close or not they are.. with preset you can’t do a good comparison, because synths has to be programmed first for better result..
@@DKS-SYNTH-LAB Thanks for the update. Good to know how you working the comparison.
Fantom hands down, maybe because I'm use to the workflow of the Roland fantoms lol
Interface wise, all three are pretty similar although I will say that the Yamaha looks a little more complicated for anyone that hasn't owned a Yamaha keyboard before (like me). Pianos wise, I want to say an even tie with Yamaha and the Korg Nautilus, considering that 98% of the sounds in the Nautilus are based off of the Kronos but that being said, that's a subjective subject as everyone is different. All the other sounds though, well each keyboard is unique and it just depends on what you like hearing sound wise.
Roland Fantom 6 is good, but Yamaha Montage 6 is much better. The quality of sound delivered is amazing. Thanks for this comparison.
and what about Kurzweil K2700?
My takes.
Piano: Montage takes it by a long shot, I did expect that though as I expected Yamaha to do a perfect job capturing *their own* pianos. I slightly prefered the Fantom over the Nautilus because it sounds like it has higher quality samples and generally knows what it wants to be. In short Montage sounded like a big concert or stadium piano, Fantom sounded like a Jazz piano, Nautilus sounded kinda generic
Strings: Montage takes it, sounds the most open to my ears and I think it's for the same reason as the pianos probably, Yamaha makes stringed instruments aswell. Nautilus has this weird ultra scooped processed vibe to it which is cool in a way but not that useful, Fantom sounds a bit flat compared to both but the sample quality sounds higher to me than the Nautilus.
Rhodes: Totally different types of Rhodes sounds, very hard to compare. I do prefer the warmth of the Fantom in this case with the Montage being a close second. Nautilus sounded weird an not like any real Rhodes I know of.
Big pad: Fantom takes it by far, you can hear that's clearly a Jupiter or a JP8000 style sound. Nautilus does have a cool thing going on in a more modern sense, didn't like the Montage at all this time, sounded a bit generic for me.
80s piano: Montage takes it for me, it's literally the real thing basically as it uses FM for that sound! Honestly sounds similar to a particular patch I like on the SY99. the MK80 emulation on the Fantom also sounds incredible. Nautilus sounds like it has no real reference and can't come close to both the others when it comes to capturing that period of time authentically, but it's a nice nostalgic yet modern sound for synthwave.
FM Piano: again, Montage is basically the real thing. the Fantom does sample the real thing really well and the Nautilus sounds like what a "80s piano" patch should sound like and doesn't even try to emulate the real thing.
Pluck synth: I liked all of them but Fantom takes it for me, again sounds like it's definitely an emulation of one of Roland's legendary analogs. Nautilus sounds very interesting in a modern way and Montage actually sounds like it might be FM here too!
Dulcimer synth: All have their own character, but I'd have to pick the Nautilus for this one. Not sure what I like about it so much here but it is what it is. Montage sounds like an interesting combo of a muted piano and a supersaw and Fantom actaully sounded kinda ethnic in a cool way.
Slow pad: Fantom takes it, love how so much is going on there. Nautilus has a weird range to it but sounds nice, Montage to me sounds a bit too harsh.
In conclusion: Montage for real instrument sounds, Fantom for synths. But honestly if synths is the strength of the Fantom I'd rather get a Jupiter X for that :D
Great comment! Thank you for your time! 😉
Let's face it, of the 3, Yamaha got the shorter end of the stick with the Montage (which never got close to the success of the Motif). The Nautilus continues the legacy of the amazing Kronos, and this is Roland's best Fantom yet. Overall I would say 1) Nautilus 2) Fantom 3) Montage
Korg Nautilus by far!
Korg sound is clean so you can tweak it by adding effects or layers. What you do with factory "fat" sounds on Yamaha and Roland?
That Fantom sound real nice and I love it has aftertouch which I use.
If the Korg had a better keybed feel I would choose it over the Roland, but it doesn't so Roland for me.
The one you like is the best. 🎧
Ciao, ho capito adesso che sei italiano 😂 ma come qualità del tasto quale è per te la migliore? Io ho provato Nautilus 61 e non mi é piaciuta, però Nautilus 73 era tutto un altro pianeta (in meglio ovviamente). Fantom-07 mi é piaciuta tantissimo ma non so se sia uguale al Fantom-6.
Da affiancare ad uno stage piano volevo prendere una workstation evoluta la con una bella keybed, quale consigli.per la keybed? In ogni caso il Nautilus mi attira molto per rapporto qualità/prezzo e suoni (Korg io li adoro).
Ciao, nautilus 6 e 7 sono assolutamente identiche come tasto 😅 è la stessa meccanica. Fantom e fantom 0 hanno meccaniche diverse e fantom-0 non ha aftertouch (come nemmeno nautilus). Se ti piacciono i suoni Korg sai cosa scegliere 😉
@@DKS-SYNTH-LAB 🤣 Mitico, grazie mille.
Canale stupendo e bellissime recensioni.
Si io ho lasciato il cuore 30nanninfa al non acquisto di Wavestation e poi i Rhodes Korg li adoro.
Mi arrischieró a prendere un Nautilus 61 (73 non ho spazio che é già impegnato dallo stage piano).
Poi Nautilus ha un sequencer con editing "livello nota" come Roland che manca a Yamaha ed inoltre ha funzioni di campionatore che mi intrippano.
Grazie ancora e continua così! 👍🏻🙂
P.S.: ma come keybed tra i tre top qual'è per te la più precisa e quindi migliore?
@@federicovalmassoni3827 in questo video il Nautilus esce molto male, e anche la scelta dei preset per il confronto non era delle migliori, ti assicuro che è molto meglio da quello che hai ascoltato
Korg Nautilus the best & leading
I had a Nautilus 88 and traded it and a Kawai MP7 for the Roland Fantom 08, best move I ever made.. I also have the Yamaha Modx7 and it has the same sounds as the Montage, so in my opinion I have 2 of the best sounding boards at a very reasonable price.. The Nautilus is a good board, but I owned the OASYS and the Kronos prior to the Nautilus and the Nautilus didn't shine at all.. Heavy, action is lacking for the price, screen is not as responsive as I would like, since everything you do is on the screen.. Also, it had lag when making changes on the screen, drawbars especially were a pain.. Acoustic sounds not as good as the Yamaha and Roland.. I only owned the Nautilus for a few gigs and it had to go, sorry Korg guys, but if you don't like Roland and Yamaha try a Kurzweil.........
Roland Fantom, Yamaha Montage and the Last Korg Nautilus.
But all are goods Workstation 🎶
how do you manage to buy all these?
Working 😉
@@DKS-SYNTH-LAB Coree awesome.. TH-cam videos??
Yamaha is still driving🔥