I’m gonna gladly wait for you to get Mirka to develop a 5” and mini polisher. Watching you use the New Rupes and Mirka back to back is a noticeable delta in performance.
@@Jose.G.Y because I might not agree with everything said means I’m bagging on Matt? Both yours and Tim’s knees must be sore by now. Don’t worry. Nobody kisses Matt’s @$$ more than you two
I clean my foam pads in a 1gal bucket with P&S Absolute, ring out, throw on polisher, spin it out on speed 6, back to work. Wool or microfiber, compressed air
For the cost of a pad washer, I can certainly buy a lot more pads. I don’t see a reason or purpose for a pad washer. You can wash out your pads with waterless wash spin the water out and get back to work.
@@davidsteckley8846 the pad washer is just a better more efficient way to do what you are describing above. Instead of washing one in a sink you just put the polisher in the washer and pull the trigger. It contains the cleaning solution and the mess. You can wash and be back to polishing in 15 seconds or so. I also thought they were unnecessary until I owned one.
@@davidsteckley8846 interesting, I have not had that experience. I did a video on using the washer for my channel, and ive used it exclusively since then. I can only comment on my experience, I only mostly rupes pads.
I've only watched a little bit, but I think the machine fighting you was a combination of a pad that wasn't fully primed/broken in yet and the grabbiness of TLC+ with the wool pad. Spencer knows single stage way better than I do, but be careful with TLC+ if you ever try it on newer (thinner) two stage paint. I was chasing some scratches on my 2012 X5 with a PXE-80, blue wool and TLC+ and I burned down to the primer near (not on) an edge in just a few seconds. I didn't touch it again after that and was very happy with the cutting performance of the standard (black bottle) of TLC. I've talked to Levi about it and he pretty much reserves TLC+ for gelcoats and thick/hard clears where he knows he has plenty of paint to work in. TLC+ isn't nearly as friendly as TLC when it comes to cycle time, dust and trim staining. If you're still open to trying (more) new compounds, P&S just released their Rehab correction creme. I've never been a fan of P&S compounds/polishes but Rehab is really really good. I need to play with it more but it might replace TLC for me. Also, punt that detail guards pad washer right in the trash. The Lake Country pad washer is what you want. The pad stays on the machine, doesn't get nearly as wet (one or two pumps is all you need), and you just spin it dry real fast. You shouldn't be getting any liquid on the paint. Use it with rinseless (256:1) for best results.
@@YuriTarded-hf1nv After watching more of the video, I think it might be down to the interaction of that heavy cutting compound and that particular paint. I just used blue wool (both the new style and old style) on my HLR15 and HLR 21 all day long, it was as smooth as can be. It didn't fight me at all.
Then you should give the LE Polisher a shot. This machine doesn’t have the high pitched sound at all. Sounds way more muffled. You will not be disappointed, I promise.
When washing the pads make sure you spin them out on full speed until the moisture is taken out. Will help with a smoother user experience while polishing as well.
big fan of your channel Matt and what you do. But if I can say one thing, it will be so much easier if you hold the MF towel from the lower left edge with your thumb so that when you 'buff' off the residue, the towel holds its place into your hand rather than going everywhere.
I have the LC 4000 washer. It’s way easier, separates the clean and dirty water. You can spin dry at the last stage. It really fine tunes the process especially with single stage paint. That goofy washer Matt was using needs punting in the trash.
For corded units, what they need is an option to have a quick disconnect right off the base of the unit I think Griot’s garage unit had that at one time….
Big bulky handles aren’t just for beginners lol. I polish cars every day professionally and after 6-7 hours my thumb gets tired and I’ll palm it lol. And certain panels at certain angles I’ll palm it 🤷♂️
@@ObsessedGarage haha idk about your hands but you definitely have strong opinions- that’s why we love ya uncle Matt! But also for wet sanding it’s nice to be able to spray water with one hand and palm the polisher with the other. I’ll start training my thumb directly at the gym 💪
@@ObsessedGarage haha ya I could imagine you doing that. I agree tho about rupes. I personally love the new cordless 21. Super torquey and stalls less than the corded. Only issue I’ve learned quickly is that when the battery is warm it won’t charge til it cools- so by the time I kill the second battery, the first isn’t done charging yet. Kinda a big oversight by rupes. They should put a small fan on the charger to cool them faster
are the new polishers ( the corded orbital designed in Germany and made in Japan, and the 1/2 inch cordless that Matt demo'd available for purchase ? if so, what are they called and where can you buy them ? Thanks as always!
Never mind and two minutes later into the video Matt whips out as good old try and true OG polisher I think that’s the unit where it has a quick disconnect on the base of the unit for the electrical cord I think….
Thats not the OG polisher, its actually a new model from liquid elements hes testing out to be the new entry level polisher. The og polisher was a rupes LHR15
I sold my 15 and 21 milwaukees and got 15 and 21 hlr21. I like Rupes more, its so much lighter and smoother and the power is atleast equal. I dont have corded machine anymore(execpt rupes rotary).
Interesting on the Rupes all of reviews I have seen on youtube everyone rates the smoothness and lightness thanks for being honest 👍 Do you find the lhr15 better I know both the rupes machines are free spinning and the flex is forced rotation
Hey Matt. Why did you choose to use the 3” when you already had the 5” going? The 5” could have easily covered the edges you went over? And what were the other compound/polish/pad combos used during the test spot?
I would first question why you need either of those. Traditional 401(k) first. You’d only backdoor into a Roth IRA after putting maximum $23,000 in 2024. I think HSA is dumb unless you are really unhealthy.
It's just the reality of this machine, especially with a foam pad. It does not have enough power in the battery pack they provide. When they release the ibrid adaptor for it I am positive it will work so much better. I wish there was a way to make Milwaukee HO batteries to work with this. For now, try the washer mod to make it free spin and it works better that way.
Sorry I thought you were talking about the new cordless machine. Obviously technic is important but the Mark 3 especially when new has too much drag on the backing plate. Either use the "washer mod" or remove the anti-spin rubber shroud. It helps a lot. My machine after 3 years now works a lot better actually than when it was new due to the shroud being worn off. I've done over 100 cars with it and it's the best machine out there overall in my opinion.@@YuriTarded-hf1nv
Polisher stalling on you has more to do with technique and pad angle than it does with power. Maybe try making some slight adjustments with your technique
True but when you have different polishers testing them side by side with the same technique and one is stalling that's an indication of the behavior of the polisher. You can get around it by making adjustments but that's a lot of time and performance loss in a professional environment. Regardless, it does not change the fact that one polisher has less torque than the other. In Rupes cae it comes down to their inferior battery tech.@@YuriTarded-hf1nv
@@DrCeramicDallas not trying to say anything negative about your technique but I would easily wager that to be the culprit over rupes battery system not being powerful enough.
Well the batteries are just objectively different. It's not a matter of opinions. If you know anything about Milwaukee HO and Forge batteries you know that they have more power and last much much longer. You even see in this video Matt is saying the same thing about the battery. @@YuriTarded-hf1nv
@@BarbWaltersMusic you’re thinking about a different channel. This is obsessed garage. Obsessed detailing is something different. I want to say he’s a viewer though.
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I love how Mat is wearing that Roli sub while polishing
I’m gonna gladly wait for you to get Mirka to develop a 5” and mini polisher. Watching you use the New Rupes and Mirka back to back is a noticeable delta in performance.
So you’re going to use a 3” polisher for an entire vehicle?
good luck, Mirka are a body shop company, not a detailing. Doubt they will ever come up with a 5 inch DA. Rotary much more likely.
@@YuriTarded-hf1nv What comment did you read?
@@timkinley1779exactly 😂😂😂. Dude bags on Matt on the other YT channels, but kisses his butt here 🤣
@@Jose.G.Y because I might not agree with everything said means I’m bagging on Matt? Both yours and Tim’s knees must be sore by now. Don’t worry. Nobody kisses Matt’s @$$ more than you two
I clean my foam pads in a 1gal bucket with P&S Absolute, ring out, throw on polisher, spin it out on speed 6, back to work. Wool or microfiber, compressed air
Try out the Milwaukee polisher with the HO 3.0 battery, game changer
Looking great Matt. Well done
Matt. It would be interesting to see you have a conversation with Jim White at White Details regarding detailing products and processes.
I would like that. I'll put that together.
Can't wait for the LE polisher - looks legit!
It's pretty sweet. I was shocked at how much I liked it.
When will you have it in the store?
@@kevinderenzis7193The machine will be available in May 2024 in the OG shop.
Sold
You will not be disappointed, I can promise you that.
AS a E30 owner this is my favorite series to date!
I agree with what jeff said about the lake country pad washer, its the one to buy.
For the cost of a pad washer, I can certainly buy a lot more pads. I don’t see a reason or purpose for a pad washer. You can wash out your pads with waterless wash spin the water out and get back to work.
@@davidsteckley8846 the pad washer is just a better more efficient way to do what you are describing above. Instead of washing one in a sink you just put the polisher in the washer and pull the trigger. It contains the cleaning solution and the mess. You can wash and be back to polishing in 15 seconds or so. I also thought they were unnecessary until I owned one.
@@improvedgarage there’s another channel out there too said with those groves in the pad washer can chew up the pads.
@@davidsteckley8846 interesting, I have not had that experience. I did a video on using the washer for my channel, and ive used it exclusively since then. I can only comment on my experience, I only mostly rupes pads.
@@davidsteckley8846 th-cam.com/video/gqIE_EslnjE/w-d-xo.html
I've only watched a little bit, but I think the machine fighting you was a combination of a pad that wasn't fully primed/broken in yet and the grabbiness of TLC+ with the wool pad.
Spencer knows single stage way better than I do, but be careful with TLC+ if you ever try it on newer (thinner) two stage paint. I was chasing some scratches on my 2012 X5 with a PXE-80, blue wool and TLC+ and I burned down to the primer near (not on) an edge in just a few seconds. I didn't touch it again after that and was very happy with the cutting performance of the standard (black bottle) of TLC.
I've talked to Levi about it and he pretty much reserves TLC+ for gelcoats and thick/hard clears where he knows he has plenty of paint to work in. TLC+ isn't nearly as friendly as TLC when it comes to cycle time, dust and trim staining.
If you're still open to trying (more) new compounds, P&S just released their Rehab correction creme. I've never been a fan of P&S compounds/polishes but Rehab is really really good. I need to play with it more but it might replace TLC for me.
Also, punt that detail guards pad washer right in the trash. The Lake Country pad washer is what you want. The pad stays on the machine, doesn't get nearly as wet (one or two pumps is all you need), and you just spin it dry real fast. You shouldn't be getting any liquid on the paint. Use it with rinseless (256:1) for best results.
The machine fighting him was due to not priming the wool pad? Don’t understand how that would be when pad priming doesn’t really make a difference
@@YuriTarded-hf1nv Priming a wool and microfiber pad absolutely makes a difference, its common knowledge in the detailing world for years now.
@@whitegoodman7465 why is it you think that?
Esoteric video in link does a good job explaining and goes over this very topic.
@@YuriTarded-hf1nv After watching more of the video, I think it might be down to the interaction of that heavy cutting compound and that particular paint. I just used blue wool (both the new style and old style) on my HLR15 and HLR 21 all day long, it was as smooth as can be. It didn't fight me at all.
Yep, I think it is the polish and paint. It was grabbing much like a forced rotation machine.
Man $200 for that polisher is pretty nuts. Definitely going to pick one up when they are available.
You will be not disappointed I can assure you that.
Red single stage paint hits different. It's frikin nice!!
Good to see you polishing Matty. I missed you doing that. I really enjoy your excitement during polishing. Bouncing around on polishers was fun too.
The rupes reminds me of the shrill high pitched sound of the ego 650 blower.
Then you should give the LE Polisher a shot. This machine doesn’t have the high pitched sound at all. Sounds way more muffled. You will not be disappointed, I promise.
When washing the pads make sure you spin them out on full speed until the moisture is taken out. Will help with a smoother user experience while polishing as well.
That's a darn good idea.
big fan of your channel Matt and what you do. But if I can say one thing, it will be so much easier if you hold the MF towel from the lower left edge with your thumb so that when you 'buff' off the residue, the towel holds its place into your hand rather than going everywhere.
Thanks for the tip
I have the LC 4000 washer. It’s way easier, separates the clean and dirty water. You can spin dry at the last stage. It really fine tunes the process especially with single stage paint. That goofy washer Matt was using needs punting in the trash.
I know the Lake Country well. I just didn't have one handy.
Try the new forge 6.0 battery and super charger kit complements the Milwaukee polisher really well 👌🏼
For corded units, what they need is an option to have a quick disconnect right off the base of the unit I think Griot’s garage unit had that at one time….
Big bulky handles aren’t just for beginners lol. I polish cars every day professionally and after 6-7 hours my thumb gets tired and I’ll palm it lol. And certain panels at certain angles I’ll palm it 🤷♂️
If you say so…. I guess I just have strong hands.
@@ObsessedGarage haha idk about your hands but you definitely have strong opinions- that’s why we love ya uncle Matt! But also for wet sanding it’s nice to be able to spray water with one hand and palm the polisher with the other. I’ll start training my thumb directly at the gym 💪
Ha, ha...
I really wanted to grap the sawzall and chop the handle off. I think RUPES has it right.
@@ObsessedGarage haha ya I could imagine you doing that. I agree tho about rupes. I personally love the new cordless 21. Super torquey and stalls less than the corded. Only issue I’ve learned quickly is that when the battery is warm it won’t charge til it cools- so by the time I kill the second battery, the first isn’t done charging yet. Kinda a big oversight by rupes. They should put a small fan on the charger to cool them faster
If you don’t got a smile on your face watching Francis in his natural habitat, you need some milk
Francis?
don't got?
are the new polishers ( the corded orbital designed in Germany and made in Japan, and the 1/2 inch cordless that Matt demo'd available for purchase ? if so, what are they called and where can you buy them ? Thanks as always!
Made in China. I will have them in May.
@@ObsessedGarage How's the availability timeline looking?
❤️🙏 Love from Scotland 🙏❤️
I have not seen your videos for a while. You lost some weight i thought, then you said it your self. 💪
Never mind and two minutes later into the video Matt whips out as good old try and true OG polisher I think that’s the unit where it has a quick disconnect on the base of the unit for the electrical cord I think….
I don’t think he ever used the corded rupes did he? I don’t remember seeing it in the video
Thats not the OG polisher, its actually a new model from liquid elements hes testing out to be the new entry level polisher. The og polisher was a rupes LHR15
@@YuriTarded-hf1nv I mean the Griots Unit…
@@timbrown9731the griots polisher?
50:30 rewatched this…I missed this gem of a statement the first time around. #WhosGiraffeTools
Interesting I’ve heard that the product the last cut actually works quite well, i’m curious to see if it’s legit enough to meet uncle Matty standards.
I sold my 15 and 21 milwaukees and got 15 and 21 hlr21. I like Rupes more, its so much lighter and smoother and the power is atleast equal. I dont have corded machine anymore(execpt rupes rotary).
Interesting on the Rupes all of reviews I have seen on youtube everyone rates the smoothness and lightness thanks for being honest 👍 Do you find the lhr15 better I know both the rupes machines are free spinning and the flex is forced rotation
I think the new HLR is better in pretty much all aspects over the LHR15.
Hey Matt. Why did you choose to use the 3” when you already had the 5” going? The 5” could have easily covered the edges you went over? And what were the other compound/polish/pad combos used during the test spot?
The 5" was digging into the pretty aggressive cure in the hood. The big pad didn't allow me to polish the edge.
Is that a mini Liquid Elements machine? I'm starting out as a beginner
Nice!! They will not have the Mirka Cordless 1.25" 5mm Random Orbital Sander KIT (AROS150-B) for sale?
5mm is too small an orbit to do much when polishing.
@@ObsessedGarage Ok perfect, I'm on the lookout as soon as they have the Mirka 12 in stock!!
Hey Mat, which companies do you recommend for Roth-IRA and HSA?
I would first question why you need either of those. Traditional 401(k) first. You’d only backdoor into a Roth IRA after putting maximum $23,000 in 2024. I think HSA is dumb unless you are really unhealthy.
Not a fan on the Rupes sound. That would get annoying.
You should try than the Liquid Elements T4000 5 inch Polisher. This machine doesn’t have the high pitched sound of the Rupes.
When’s the white polisher becoming available?
3 weeks or so!
I didn’t quite get the white polisher? Was it one of the og employees polisher they just bought?
The machine is the US version of the Liquid Elements T4000 5-inch 15 mm Dual Action Polisher.
that T4000 is a US plug?
Yes it is 110volts and us plug
Yep
@@ObsessedGarage when are you guys stocking that? It sounds like the Active 2.0 of the polishing world.
The Liquid Elements T4000 MK1 5-inch Dual Action Polisher will be available on May, 2024 at the OG shop.
@@EnthusiastProjectYou could be right with that comment. Time will tell. 👍
What paint gauge is that ?
As a beginner I do find I stall a bit more than I would like on the LHR15III. Any tips?
Easy on the pressure!
Keep it flat and let the machine do the work. You got this!
It's just the reality of this machine, especially with a foam pad. It does not have enough power in the battery pack they provide. When they release the ibrid adaptor for it I am positive it will work so much better. I wish there was a way to make Milwaukee HO batteries to work with this. For now, try the washer mod to make it free spin and it works better that way.
@@DrCeramicDallaslhr15 mark3 doesn’t have a battery pack?
Sorry I thought you were talking about the new cordless machine. Obviously technic is important but the Mark 3 especially when new has too much drag on the backing plate. Either use the "washer mod" or remove the anti-spin rubber shroud. It helps a lot. My machine after 3 years now works a lot better actually than when it was new due to the shroud being worn off. I've done over 100 cars with it and it's the best machine out there overall in my opinion.@@YuriTarded-hf1nv
Try and have someone keep and eye on your pad angle when correcting so they can help you make adjustments and know when pad is flat?
Those Rupes blue wool pads especially the new versions are very grappy and makes the machine walk away.
Would you say the Milwaukee has more power and less stalling?
Polisher stalling on you has more to do with technique and pad angle than it does with power. Maybe try making some slight adjustments with your technique
True but when you have different polishers testing them side by side with the same technique and one is stalling that's an indication of the behavior of the polisher. You can get around it by making adjustments but that's a lot of time and performance loss in a professional environment. Regardless, it does not change the fact that one polisher has less torque than the other. In Rupes cae it comes down to their inferior battery tech.@@YuriTarded-hf1nv
It's their battery tech that's inferior. Nothing wrong with my technique.@@YuriTarded-hf1nv
@@DrCeramicDallas not trying to say anything negative about your technique but I would easily wager that to be the culprit over rupes battery system not being powerful enough.
Well the batteries are just objectively different. It's not a matter of opinions. If you know anything about Milwaukee HO and Forge batteries you know that they have more power and last much much longer. You even see in this video Matt is saying the same thing about the battery. @@YuriTarded-hf1nv
Those grills and kidney pop out very easily - couple clips and a screw or two
Dude went from washing non dirty cars to polishing scratchless cars 😂😂
Non dirty? Are you from Mars or something?
@@PabloConcrete yes I am, how has earth been?
What Brand and Model # of the paint Meter ?
Defelsko Positector w/ 200 B probe and 6000 probe. The small one is the DFTC-C.
Look man, if that Mirka is good, just say its good haha.
Ha, ha...
You usually put clown makeup on to polish a car? 😂😂
Rrupes HLR the device is far too expensive and you can't buy it😮
It will be less when they sell it stand alone. The kit adds a bunch of cost.
Utterly ridiculous. You probably spent 2 hours to set up just to polish the hood. This is the downfall of being a perfectionist.
What...? No
Go polish your own M3
@@dnbmaniaI don’t think that’s Matt’s M3. I forgot who he said the owner was.
did you forget you're on a obsessed detailing channel that is trying to learn the best ways to polish one stage paint?
@@BarbWaltersMusic you’re thinking about a different channel. This is obsessed garage. Obsessed detailing is something different. I want to say he’s a viewer though.