On single stage paint, the paint breaks down at the same rate as the compound. This forces the removed paint down into the pad which in turn acts as an abrasive to continue to cut. Clear coat is so dense that the compound gums up the pads making them to smooth to continue to cut. Dawn Powerwash Platinum is what I use to clean out the pads used for single stage paint. Rub it in by hand, then rinse out with warm water until clean. Spin dry using the polisher, apply more compound and get back at it. On some black single stage paint, I just use water on a finishing pad to jewel up.
I still like my Flex ecosystem. Using all the same batteries is nice. The batteries do ramp down some, but it’s manageable. They are very smooth with the exception of the geared orbital, but it has its place too. But I I agree with Matt on the Mirka, it’s so smooth. They definitely need a 5”.
Found the vid! I'm in the lower-budget category and I have a car I spend more money on than I do on food, to keep clean and detailed. THIS IS WHAT I HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR. Thank you for giving us eyes on something we don't have to sell a kidney to afford, in order to get good results. We trust you and OG and all I can say is, personally, thank you for this. When I buy it, it'll be through your store.
That’s simply not true, that’s like trying to reinvent the wheel lol. What people want is smooth action with their preferred throw and mirka has done it the best but that’s not without flaws too. No lock down button is a huge one for me. Also rupes has been revolutionizing the industry for years people copy rupes lol
That’s def not true. Mirka might have a solid 3 in and Matt prefers it. I personally like it but no need for me to upgrade too it. Rupes paved the way for long throw DA’s and everyone has copied Rupes. I think it comes down to personal preference but I love the new Rupes 15. It took a couple of cars to get use to but makes the Milwaukee feel like janky and overweight. I don’t feel like I am Vibrating all over the place now. I can work faster with the Rupes.
I've been using that liquid elements polisher for couple of years now. Brilliant machine. Beats my flex and rupes, so well balanced, just over all good machine
I agree with you Matt on the glass in the older BMWs. That original Sekurit glass is super hard and doesn’t even spot as bad as all the newer soft glass.
I was one of the many to tell Matt, to get the 3" Mirka, some more hot tips, on item to stock/sell Please ask him to try the following- - Mirka Premium (orange)wool pads come both in 3" and 5" Made in Turkey amazing - Kovax sanding system especially the Totecut block with "dry sanding" paper precut from japan, is on another level will allow DIY to easily repair there own stone chips, or as an alternate to heavy cutting. 😃 -One last tip, to improve the Milwaukee 5" random orbital, remove the cheap grease in the gearing head , and replace with high temp "good quality" bearing/gearing grease, replace same amount insuring the gearing is IN contact with the grease, vibration reduced approx 20%, be sure to thoroughly clean with ISP proir to the new grease, and bed in on high speed for 10 mins loaded.
also mixed emotions with my new cordless Rupes, stalls more than I was expecting. Love the smoothness and ergonomics, man it just fits me perfectly. Battery life is average, definite drop at halfway dead. Hoping things get better with usage and break in. One car down many more to go.
I wonder if you north americans have differentiaali versions? Battery life here is compareable to Milwaukee and i dont see power drop down. Also atleast my machines wont stall ä, but i sanded the shroud that the bp spins free.
I few suggestions here: 1. Try the diy detail polishers they are amazing 2. Use a pad washer because it cleans better and you don’t have to blow your pads out. 3. Use a rinseless dampened towel to wipe off the polish to help remover it easier.
Milwaukee really ran away with the forge 6.0 battery and the dual bay simultaneous super charger it has the fans like flex to cool batteries during charge and is insanely fast at charging. I’m sticking in that ecosystem because of this new release. Also 5yr warranty on tools 3yr on battery and they actually honor it.Most others are all about 1yr.
I understand the significance of a compound and polish that wipes off easily because I’m sure the same lubricants that allow it to wipe off easily give it a longer runtime. However, What are your thoughts on utilizing McKees N914 as a wipe off spray since they claim that it won’t interfere with coating a car? usually, I’ll do a 50-50 mix of isopropyl alcohol and N914 diluted eight to one
If you can influence Mirka to add a trigger lock…that would be great. They are my go to 3in polisher (rotary and DA) for bumpers, side glass, sunroof side panel areas, rear view side mirror housing, and headlights. I love their 3in polishers and 5/6 in sanders. I second the Ru-15 cordless battery position. It needs to be update like the Flex battery position.
@@ObsessedGarage Interesting. I found it to be quite a time saver and it’s like a fresh pad on every panel. You do the spin off in the bucket. I know you use a bunch of pads on each vehicle which is the best way.
Deswegen bringen wir sie jetzt auch in die USA. Hat zwar ein bisschen gedauert, aber jetzt sind wir am Start. That’s the reason we brought the machines over to the US. It took us some time to make it happen, but now we are finally here starting in May, 2024.
@@Diemo_LE ah ok super,das wird super funktionieren,Sebastian habe ich kennen gelernt. Wir haben beide zusammen gesprochen über die Maschine. Unglaublich, was es kann und für den Preis. Klare kaufempfelung 👏👏👍👍
@@ObsessedGarageare they working on that? No detachable cord is kind of a deal breaker. It’s nice to unplug from the machine to walk out the door & blow out VS unplugging from the wall
I think with more time and experience you’ll get used to handling the new rupes. Seeing how balanced and smooth it is I would say rupes really knocked it out the park
Uncle Matty, you were contemplating using a “filler” product to hide the scratches I would really like to know more about what you would have used and if you go with a filler how does that hold up/ play with coatings?
Gotcha, so what filler/glaze do you use when you use one the Rupes uno? And what are your thoughts on the Milwaukee 3 in polisher? No go because it’s a rotary?
I been using the rupes since it was released and I gotta say my favorite combo would be meguiars micro fiber pads and rupes it feels like butter on your hand have u try that matt ?
I didnt notice any more walk with rupes vs milwaukee, its just that pad. There are better wool pads too and microfiber pads(lc and megs) runs smoother. Edit: I did sand the rubber shroud of my hlr15/21 so maybe that helps? If you do that you get free spinning without a washer.
Just like any new machine it takes a couple cars to get use too. It’s hard to go back to the Milwaukee after using the Rupes now. It feels way heavier and very janky and vibrates like crazy. The Rupes is smooth and quiet. I don’t see any difference in one stalling over the other. I feel like the Rupes has more power as well. I haven’t used my Milwaukee in about a month now and probably won’t.
@@jtm1979 what did you use? I see misinformation about using white lithium on metal gears. It just turns into a foamy mess… using Lucas Green will have a noticeable difference overall.
How would you go about cleaning rear glass that has the defrosting grid? I would assume as long as the surface is smooth on the outside(grid on the inside, I guess?) you can just clean as normal, just manage the heat? If you can feel the grid on the outside just stay away from the polisher and clean as good as possible with chemicals?
The rupes battery isn’t supposed to ramp down in power. It’s supposed to act the same as the Milwaukee where it goes 100% then dies. Supposed to be being the keyword, so that’s unfortunate
@@ObsessedGarage that’s surprising, they make it a big point talking about that. I have one but haven’t used it to the point of draining it down all the way myself yet to test.
Matt are you going to try and convince the company (Mirka) on making it like the flex PXE 80 1,2 inch? Need something for my motorcycle almost got the PXE 80 didn’t pull the trigger based on your opinion.
I don't like the PXE 80. It's a terrible 3" and too big as a 1." I want a 1" 12mm, 5" 15mm from them. The team is coming from Finland to meet with me in mid-May.
Where would you rank the Griots Garage mini polisher for a beginner detailing? Would you recommend that mini polisher for a beginner starting out with paint corrections?
It's funny watching this because over the past few days I have been detailing a red E30. However, the one I'm correcting is HEAVILY oxidized. It looked pink and unrecoverable. It's interesting to see how you've gotten caught up on some of the same issues I had. The edges along the seams so thin! I've been cleaning red pads and towels for dayyyyys 😂 Best of luck, I bet the finished product will look phenomenal! As you've seen, it's a challenge but when you get the red nicely corrected it's incredibly rewarding. I'll be coating this one with Quartz Pro from Armour Detail Supply in a day or so. Which coating are you going with?
@@ObsessedGarageAwesome, should look great when complete. If you ever get a chance to try out the ADS paint coatings (I see you have their wheel coating) I think you'll really enjoy it. Both Quartz and Quartz Pro are tough, glossy, and have excellent water beading properties.
i’m sure you don’t get dust in there, but what would you do if you get dust settled on the surface after you’re completely done polishing? wipe off carefully with eraser?
With so much paint still on vehicle why are you only wanting to get about 80% correction? Not sure if you already told us but I don’t remember hearing the reason.
Not sure they are underestimated it’s just that with all the superior options brands like rupes and flex provide there really isn’t much reason to look elsewhere unless price is the main factor.
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I love how honest you are in your videos telling the public the truth about every tool you are using.
He said liquid elements da is superior to the lhr 😂😂😂
On single stage paint, the paint breaks down at the same rate as the compound. This forces the removed paint down into the pad which in turn acts as an abrasive to continue to cut. Clear coat is so dense that the compound gums up the pads making them to smooth to continue to cut. Dawn Powerwash Platinum is what I use to clean out the pads used for single stage paint. Rub it in by hand, then rinse out with warm water until clean. Spin dry using the polisher, apply more compound and get back at it. On some black single stage paint, I just use water on a finishing pad to jewel up.
This video makes me appreciate my Milwaukee polisher more. They did a really great job on their first polisher run.
I still like my Flex ecosystem. Using all the same batteries is nice. The batteries do ramp down some, but it’s manageable. They are very smooth with the exception of the geared orbital, but it has its place too. But I I agree with Matt on the Mirka, it’s so smooth. They definitely need a 5”.
This is my favorite channel in my Engineering playlist.
Found the vid! I'm in the lower-budget category and I have a car I spend more money on than I do on food, to keep clean and detailed. THIS IS WHAT I HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR. Thank you for giving us eyes on something we don't have to sell a kidney to afford, in order to get good results. We trust you and OG and all I can say is, personally, thank you for this. When I buy it, it'll be through your store.
I’m buying the Mirka once I get my yearly bonus. Like the new products you’re trying out in this series.
Great news for all of us! The polisher industry needs a kick in the ass. Every company seems to copy each other, other than Mirka.
Well done.
That’s simply not true, that’s like trying to reinvent the wheel lol. What people want is smooth action with their preferred throw and mirka has done it the best but that’s not without flaws too. No lock down button is a huge one for me. Also rupes has been revolutionizing the industry for years people copy rupes lol
That’s def not true. Mirka might have a solid 3 in and Matt prefers it. I personally like it but no need for me to upgrade too it. Rupes paved the way for long throw DA’s and everyone has copied Rupes. I think it comes down to personal preference but I love the new Rupes 15. It took a couple of cars to get use to but makes the Milwaukee feel like janky and overweight. I don’t feel like I am Vibrating all over the place now. I can work faster with the Rupes.
@@jeremiahbrinsko7811yeah not sure why he believes this.
I've been using that liquid elements polisher for couple of years now. Brilliant machine. Beats my flex and rupes, so well balanced, just over all good machine
Lol
Years ???
@@barrywatson-qb3di No. Nothing about that the years. More about the idea that this beats rupes.
great video and comments!! Let's hope Mirka can manufacture a 5" polisher with the similar performance of the 12
I agree with you Matt on the glass in the older BMWs. That original Sekurit glass is super hard and doesn’t even spot as bad as all the newer soft glass.
I was one of the many to tell Matt, to get the 3" Mirka, some more hot tips, on item to stock/sell
Please ask him to try the following-
- Mirka Premium (orange)wool pads come both in 3" and 5" Made in Turkey amazing
- Kovax sanding system especially the Totecut block with "dry sanding" paper precut from japan, is on another level will allow DIY to easily repair there own stone chips, or as an alternate to heavy cutting. 😃
-One last tip, to improve the Milwaukee 5" random orbital, remove the cheap grease in the gearing head , and replace with high temp "good quality" bearing/gearing grease, replace same amount insuring the gearing is IN contact with the grease, vibration reduced approx 20%, be sure to thoroughly clean with ISP proir to the new grease, and bed in on high speed for 10 mins loaded.
also mixed emotions with my new cordless Rupes, stalls more than I was expecting. Love the smoothness and ergonomics, man it just fits me perfectly. Battery life is average, definite drop at halfway dead. Hoping things get better with usage and break in. One car down many more to go.
They definitely dropped the ball with the battery and power delivery.
I wonder if you north americans have differentiaali versions? Battery life here is compareable to Milwaukee and i dont see power drop down. Also atleast my machines wont stall ä, but i sanded the shroud that the bp spins free.
I few suggestions here:
1. Try the diy detail polishers they are amazing
2. Use a pad washer because it cleans better and you don’t have to blow your pads out.
3. Use a rinseless dampened towel to wipe off the polish to help remover it easier.
Milwaukee really ran away with the forge 6.0 battery and the dual bay simultaneous super charger it has the fans like flex to cool batteries during charge and is insanely fast at charging. I’m sticking in that ecosystem because of this new release. Also 5yr warranty on tools 3yr on battery and they actually honor it.Most others are all about 1yr.
I understand the significance of a compound and polish that wipes off easily because I’m sure the same lubricants that allow it to wipe off easily give it a longer runtime. However, What are your thoughts on utilizing McKees N914 as a wipe off spray since they claim that it won’t interfere with coating a car? usually, I’ll do a 50-50 mix of isopropyl alcohol and N914 diluted eight to one
I hope you choose to get an E30 in your fleet. Would be awesome!
Good feedback. Keeping the Milwaukee for cutting and Rupes for finishing. Thanks Matt
Skip the Milwaukee and just keep the rupes. Rupes can cut and finish just fine
If you can influence Mirka to add a trigger lock…that would be great. They are my go to 3in polisher (rotary and DA) for bumpers, side glass, sunroof side panel areas, rear view side mirror housing, and headlights. I love their 3in polishers and 5/6 in sanders. I second the Ru-15 cordless battery position. It needs to be update like the Flex battery position.
Wow, a master class on single stage. It was great. What are your thoughts on the lake country pad washer?
I’m not a huge fan. I think it makes too much of a mess.
@@ObsessedGarage Interesting. I found it to be quite a time saver and it’s like a fresh pad on every panel. You do the spin off in the bucket. I know you use a bunch of pads on each vehicle which is the best way.
I’d buy a 5 inch Mirka when they make it. They are sitting on a GOLD MINE this Mirka Company 👌
More info/name on the new corded white polisher?
Liquid Elements T4000 V2 - looks like only available in Europe. . . for now. . . soon to be at OG I'm sure.
Hallo aus Deutschland deine Videos sind top,ich arbeite auch mit der LE und es ist für mich die beste Maschine 💪💪👍👍mit viel power
Deswegen bringen wir sie jetzt auch in die USA. Hat zwar ein bisschen gedauert, aber jetzt sind wir am Start.
That’s the reason we brought the machines over to the US. It took us some time to make it happen, but now we are finally here starting in May, 2024.
@@Diemo_LE ah ok super,das wird super funktionieren,Sebastian habe ich kennen gelernt. Wir haben beide zusammen gesprochen über die Maschine. Unglaublich, was es kann und für den Preis.
Klare kaufempfelung 👏👏👍👍
Some one needs to tell matt. That the liquid elements T4000 MK2 has a detachable power cord.
I know that, but it isn't available yet in 110v.
@@ObsessedGarageare they working on that? No detachable cord is kind of a deal breaker. It’s nice to unplug from the machine to walk out the door & blow out VS unplugging from the wall
I think with more time and experience you’ll get used to handling the new rupes. Seeing how balanced and smooth it is I would say rupes really knocked it out the park
Uncle Matty, you were contemplating using a “filler” product to hide the scratches I would really like to know more about what you would have used and if you go with a filler how does that hold up/ play with coatings?
Fillers are problematic. You are likely to remove most of them when you wipe the paint down prior to coating.
Gotcha, so what filler/glaze do you use when you use one the Rupes uno? And what are your thoughts on the Milwaukee 3 in polisher? No go because it’s a rotary?
I been using the rupes since it was released and I gotta say my favorite combo would be meguiars micro fiber pads and rupes it feels like butter on your hand have u try that matt ?
I didnt notice any more walk with rupes vs milwaukee, its just that pad. There are better wool pads too and microfiber pads(lc and megs) runs smoother.
Edit: I did sand the rubber shroud of my hlr15/21 so maybe that helps? If you do that you get free spinning without a washer.
Is there a reason why you went with Griot's Garage chemicals instead of Koch Chemie? I've have had really good experience with KC chemicals. Thnx.
I use what I like most from whatever manufacturer does it best.
He has kc in his store. His whole store is all different products that’s the point
Thank you.
Just like any new machine it takes a couple cars to get use too. It’s hard to go back to the Milwaukee after using the Rupes now. It feels way heavier and very janky and vibrates like crazy. The Rupes is smooth and quiet. I don’t see any difference in one stalling over the other. I feel like the Rupes has more power as well. I haven’t used my Milwaukee in about a month now and probably won’t.
have known the owner of Liquid Elements for many years and buy from him alot these days
Try replacing the grease in your Milwaukee. That thing is almost dry on the gears when you take it apart.
Did that with my milwaukees. Didnt do much in terms of vibration but i am sure it helps for longterm durability.
@@jtm1979 what did you use? I see misinformation about using white lithium on metal gears. It just turns into a foamy mess… using Lucas Green will have a noticeable difference overall.
@@aghahari i used Redline cv-2.
That should be good. I'm making a video comparing before and after when I receive my unit next week. @@jtm1979
TH-cam keeps deleting my comments... That's a good option too. I will make a comparison video soon.@@jtm1979
Great video - What model is the Liquid Elements machine (5 inch) you are using? Is it the T4000 Mk2? Thanks
T4000MK1
@@ObsessedGarage Thank you
Where is a reliable place to purchase the Liquid Elements T4000MK1?
They're in the store now. www.obsessedgarage.com/collections/liquid-elements
Isn’t this liquid elements polisher in the same class as shinemate? Cheap Chinese polisher?
It's not. I'll have some videos coming up very soon that explain this.
Have you ever tried the Makita 18v orbit 5 inch polisher? would love to see a review for all of us in the Makita 18v lxt eco system.
I haven't. My gut tells me it's not good, but I should get one to try out.
Really can't wait what u think or armour details decon and sprya sealant even though ur a coatings guy.
Been looking for a good replacement for my old Meguiars polisher... So LE?
Hello Blake. You will not be disappointed to give the LE a try. I can promise you that. And you will be one of the first to get a hand on it.
I must have missed it…which model LE polisher was being used in the video?
I would like to know as well.
Liquid Elements from Germany.
@@aghahari that’s the brand, I’m asking about the model that was used in the video.
Matt is using the LE T4000 5-inch 15 mm dual action Polisher.
The machines are in transit right now, so available on May, 2024.
How would you go about cleaning rear glass that has the defrosting grid? I would assume as long as the surface is smooth on the outside(grid on the inside, I guess?) you can just clean as normal, just manage the heat? If you can feel the grid on the outside just stay away from the polisher and clean as good as possible with chemicals?
All of that is on the inside. You can treat it the same as the rest of the glass.
Awesome. Thanks for the info!
100% it’s a good looking car . old school gangster vibes lol
Glossy red does look really when looked after 👌 the price of the mirka polisher 😮
The rupes battery isn’t supposed to ramp down in power. It’s supposed to act the same as the Milwaukee where it goes 100% then dies.
Supposed to be being the keyword, so that’s unfortunate
It doesn't do that.
Havent testes this with my hlr15/21 yet but hlr75 atleast works just like they are supposed. It just stops and power stays constant for 99%.
@@ObsessedGarage that’s surprising, they make it a big point talking about that. I have one but haven’t used it to the point of draining it down all the way myself yet to test.
@@jtm1979 yeah I have an hlr15 too but haven’t used it down past probably 40% to test that far down, now I’m curious!
It doesn’t ramp down. The rupes does exactly what you described
Matt, you think your 3” Mirka would be powerful enough to polish crappy headlights at just 10 volts, or pad stall city?
Any 3” polisher on the market will work for you especially for what you’re wanting to do
It will work just fine for that.
Matt are you going to try and convince the company (Mirka) on making it like the flex PXE 80 1,2 inch? Need something for my motorcycle almost got the PXE 80 didn’t pull the trigger based on your opinion.
Matt also Can you use you use aggressive foam pad if you don’t have the pads for the glass?
I don't like the PXE 80. It's a terrible 3" and too big as a 1." I want a 1" 12mm, 5" 15mm from them. The team is coming from Finland to meet with me in mid-May.
@@ObsessedGarage thanks you Matt hopefully in time I’ll pull the trigger on the Mirka.
Which model of LE polisher are you using?
Matt is using the LE T4000 5-inch Polisher.
Whats the name of the "Best Polisher for $200"?
it is an liquid elements T4000
www.obsessedgarage.com/collections/liquid-elements
What about Liquid Element t4500 pro?
Love the content brother
what is the name of the white polisher at 3:00 and how much does it cost
liquid elements T4000
www.obsessedgarage.com/collections/liquid-elements
Where would you rank the Griots Garage mini polisher for a beginner detailing? Would you recommend that mini polisher for a beginner starting out with paint corrections?
I don't like their 1." It is a lot of money and not great.
@@ObsessedGarage Ok. Was wondering what is a good mini polisher for beginners in your opinion? I value your thorough research and opinion
I wonder are you using the new wool pad? I believe they redesigned it.
The Coarse wool is the same from what I can tell. Only the yellow looks different.
@@ObsessedGarage well that’s a bummer. Shouldn’t matter anyways. Should perform no matter what pads are being used. Definitely disappointing
Matt, have you used jescar ultra lock? Curious to how it compares to regular power lock
I have a bottle, but I haven't used it.
It's funny watching this because over the past few days I have been detailing a red E30. However, the one I'm correcting is HEAVILY oxidized. It looked pink and unrecoverable. It's interesting to see how you've gotten caught up on some of the same issues I had. The edges along the seams so thin! I've been cleaning red pads and towels for dayyyyys 😂 Best of luck, I bet the finished product will look phenomenal! As you've seen, it's a challenge but when you get the red nicely corrected it's incredibly rewarding. I'll be coating this one with Quartz Pro from Armour Detail Supply in a day or so. Which coating are you going with?
Gtechniq CSL/EXO
@@ObsessedGarageAwesome, should look great when complete. If you ever get a chance to try out the ADS paint coatings (I see you have their wheel coating) I think you'll really enjoy it. Both Quartz and Quartz Pro are tough, glossy, and have excellent water beading properties.
That orange towel you’re wiping with? Is it a 450 GSM?
Everything they use is in their store, look up their polishing removal towels
What is the white polisher you are using?
LE Terminator!!
He’s using the Liquid Elements 5 Inch 15 mm Dual Action Polisher T4000. Available on May, 2024 over the OG shop.
@@Diemo_LE will be available in the us at og and the other retailer here in US market?
How are you deciding which to coat and which to wax?
I'm just making it up.
Word on the street is that discount tire direct acquired tire rack has anyone else heard that?
i’m sure you don’t get dust in there, but what would you do if you get dust settled on the surface after you’re completely done polishing? wipe off carefully with eraser?
You got it.
@@ObsessedGarage does eraser have emulsifying properties?
With so much paint still on vehicle why are you only wanting to get about 80% correction? Not sure if you already told us but I don’t remember hearing the reason.
Honestly, not sure if he’s even reaching 80%. I really wish he would take a sec and inspect the panel afterwards.
what polisher is he holding at 3:00
This is the Liquid Elements T4000 5-inch 15 mm Dual Action Polisher now available in the US coming in May, 2024.
@@Diemo_LE thank you!
@@Diemo_LE where is the polisher going to be available to purchase?
Which is the link for garage design?
www.obsessedgarage.com/pages/garage-consultation-design
What I learned from this video is to wear surgical gloves if I ever correct red single stage paint.
Smart
Liquid Elements, an underestimated brand imho
Thank you for your positive comment. If you haven’t yet got the possibility to get your hands on the machine give it a shot. You’ll not regret it.
Not sure they are underestimated it’s just that with all the superior options brands like rupes and flex provide there really isn’t much reason to look elsewhere unless price is the main factor.
Thanks
I like it bro
MIRKA!
I’d care about your orange kool looking shoes Matt👀
They are not good.
👍
Farecla 5 inch cordless rotary 😄
I used to use Farecla products they are very good buy never used their machine!Any good?
@@interceptor7905yes very good, only used the rotary 👍
matt said a bad word
First 💪🏻😅