My husband has an incurable and untreatable neurological disorder. He is 57 years old. It is a horrible disease and he’s in the hospital right now in a completely delirious state of consciousness after his kidneys started to fail. If this was our truth and that was the only truth there is I would be beyond despair but I know there is a Truth beyond our circumstances and that gives me hope.
Thank you for an amazing conversation! I grew up in a family of people that didn’t know how to have a meaningful conversation without yelling at one another. I struggle mightily with this when I’m with them. I’m trying to change. Sean, your videos teach me so much. And Jeff, I can’t wait to buy your book!
"I WAS ALWAYS THAT KID GROWING UP ASKING WHY," this quote incapsolates me perfectly. I will follow any rule and adhere to any standard if there is a good enough answer to the question WHY. I've been seen as combative to authority.. But ever since I've been little I needed to know the reason why before I'd submit. I couldn't explain my reasoning or what it was that satisfied me in hearing the answer to that question. But growing older it seems as though it was my pursuit of truth. I wanted a reason grounded in fact and reality. I've never liked people's personal preferences being forced onto me. God has always answered my questions. When I was accused of being a bratty child I retreated to the scriptures. I found rest with Him. I was able to forfeit my desires because His reasons were sufficient.
Fascinating questions and excellent responses. One of the best interviewers by far, Dr. Sean McDowell! I feel that he represents the person, who wants to know these intricate questions of life.I appreciate this channel.
Wise and gentle men, wonderful. Dr McDowell is a national treasure. Some of the best interviews and reasonable discourse on utube. Great guests, great questions. Thoroughly engaging and provocative content. Much love from California. Dr Myers is a great thinker, I hope to get his book. Today both men together are a revelation.
I really like dr. Myers points. I never thought about how countries that start out predominantly Christian are more accepting, compassionate and even financially better off then countries that weren't. But that hardly seems to check out. And his reasoning behind it makes quite a lot of logical sense.
3 min 30 sec in and I'm already tearing up. That's a high bar guys. David A. Noebel and Dr. Fred Schwarz were the two guys who helped me understand the importance of worldview. Jeff had big shoes to fill and he is doing a great job.
How I hope my grandsons (I'm not discriminating. My only granddaughters are our daughter's two female dogs.) can study with these amazing men. I have become a meddling granny so worried that our children and grandsons will follow the ways of their atheistic but wordly wise grandfather.
Getting to those Job level afflictions/tests for real. But the Blessings after/in such trials are something else. I need to finish the video lol but thank you for sharing
Blessed are you who are blind now. Blessed are those who do not know now. Blessed are you who are sick now. Blessed are you who have not seen the son of man. Blessed are you who are crippled. Blessed are you who are deaf. Blessed are you who are dumb. Most blessed are you who are dead now. Woe to you who can see now. Woe to you who know now. Woe to you who are healthy now. Woe to you who have seen the son of man. Woe to you who can walk. Woe to you who can hear. Woe to you who can speak. Most woes to you who are alive now.
The altar of religion and the altar of politics has done so much harm to humanity. Only worshipping through the altar of Jesus is where we find peace and freedom, both for ourselves and for the world.
If medieval Europe was based on Christianity there was an awful lot of prejudice and injustice. Suffering was around before the Enlightenment as well as after it. The problem with the argument about the relationship of different freedoms is the 'therefore'. It seems more likely that they arose together.
For those wishing to pursue the philosophy of this check out Esther Lightcap Meek, a mainstream protestant who takes our relation to god as the model for knowing (roughly speaking). She has a popular introduction to her work called something like A Little Manual for Knowing.
There are notions of equality outside Europe (where Christianity is influential) eg in Chinese faiths and Buddhism (which did much to undermine the caste system).
What book would I write? Look for truth, not what your ego desires. "My work" is not that important. Ask Solomon who made great things, said wisdom the world envied. Possessed great wealth. "When all has been heard, the conclusion of the matter is this: Fear God and keep His commandments, because this is the whole duty of man"
You Bill, are a perfect hypocritical example of why the church is failing. You bash this man for writing a message from his trials and concerns of a life with Christ, then you counter with writing a small electronic pamphlet form message about your knowledge on Christ. But you do it in an arrogant way by exalting your message over Jeff’s. Another book by a follower of Christ is just a written testimony. If you think like this you should just tell others who speak about their Savior to hold their tongue because you have your better way. Do better man. Mercy.
@@SeanMcDowell Maybe I missed it. I thought you asked at the start, what book would you write. I don't think writing a book in itself is doing what our ego desires. Although, it could be. If we choose to write a book it should first and foremost be based in things true. We all live by faith ultimately, but not every book I read is truthful at all. Including some Christian books. People tend to push agendas from their worldview and traditions to justify personal beliefs, political views, dogma and egos and self-will as well. Just think of books based around abortion or climate change - its endless -and the truth is often not a big factor.
There's head knowledge and there's heart knowledge. From the head knowing perspective, I can't prove that God exists because God is supernatural. The supernatural does blend into the natural, and as such I do think a reasonable argument can be made for it's existence, but it's not something one can ultimately put in a jar and study, which is the kind of things nonbelievers wish when they say proof. When a Christian says I know Jesus/Christianity is the truth, we say this with heart knowledge. Anyone who has the Holy Spirit in them has this heart knowledge. You just KNOW, but someone who doesn't have the Holy Spirit in them will never really understand.
Conjoined twins with two heads that can control one body, one head wants to be a missionary the other a mercenary or what about a pastor and prostitute or gay and hetro. How do the god christians believe in judge them for there doings?
Jeff's story of recovery makes me glad for Jeff, but personally sad and angry. Instead of seeking the actual useful naturalistic treatments, like intensive chemotherapy that Jeff received, family members sought primarily after prayer and homeopathic 'organic' alternatives until it was too late. Christian beliefs do provide many benefits, but at times also cause great harm. Jeff cites a lot of great oughts that he thinks come from Christianity and can't be derived purely naturalistically. I disagree. Many were around long before Christianity and there are plenty of ways Secular Morality can be derived. I also hope Jeff realizes he has selectively chosen many Biblical oughts he thinks are good but omitted oughts I think we would agree are bad.
"How the Truth of Jesus Changes Everything" Yes it does, if you're a believer. The truth is bible Jesus is a fictional character in cult mythology. Even then, the concept and story is nonsensical. Just goes to show some people will believe any nonsense, especially if this nonsense promises a fantasy escape from their fear of mortal reality.
“Truth exists and it’s Jesus “. Really? You failed to define what you mean by truth. Truth is a concept not a person. The Acts of Jesus is not objective knowledge it’s magical thinking. It’s interesting that you went to the Doctor when you became Unwell and not to church to pray for wellness.
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My husband has an incurable and untreatable neurological disorder. He is 57 years old. It is a horrible disease and he’s in the hospital right now in a completely delirious state of consciousness after his kidneys started to fail. If this was our truth and that was the only truth there is I would be beyond despair but I know there is a Truth beyond our circumstances and that gives me hope.
The Lord Jesus is our hope, our peace. Laura, HE is right there with you and your husband. Blessings
@@celiabravo2771 thank you Celia ❤
Does anyone else realize Sean and Jeff both got the same hairstyle? XD
I do now! 🤣
Now I can’t stop laughing at it.
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😆 😆 -- LOL...
hahahaha, yep!
Thanks for sharing 🙏🏿
His grace and mercy be upon you all and your loved ones 🕊️🥛🍯
Awesome..Truth IS Jesus..
Amen!
Thank you for an amazing conversation! I grew up in a family of people that didn’t know how to have a meaningful conversation without yelling at one another. I struggle mightily with this when I’m with them. I’m trying to change. Sean, your videos teach me so much. And Jeff, I can’t wait to buy your book!
Thanks Sharon!
Thank you Sean and Jeff for such an enjoyable, enlightening and encouraging conversation. Just loved this. Monny
You bet, Monny!
"I WAS ALWAYS THAT KID GROWING UP ASKING WHY," this quote incapsolates me perfectly.
I will follow any rule and adhere to any standard if there is a good enough answer to the question WHY.
I've been seen as combative to authority.. But ever since I've been little I needed to know the reason why before I'd submit.
I couldn't explain my reasoning or what it was that satisfied me in hearing the answer to that question. But growing older it seems as though it was my pursuit of truth. I wanted a reason grounded in fact and reality. I've never liked people's personal preferences being forced onto me.
God has always answered my questions. When I was accused of being a bratty child I retreated to the scriptures. I found rest with Him. I was able to forfeit my desires because His reasons were sufficient.
Fascinating questions and excellent responses. One of the best interviewers by far, Dr. Sean McDowell! I feel that he represents the person, who wants to know these intricate questions of life.I appreciate this channel.
Its time to be honest with yourself. Don't do what you hate.
That's great you consider it one of the best. Hopefully I am getting better along the way!
Wise and gentle men, wonderful. Dr McDowell is a national treasure. Some of the best interviews and reasonable discourse on utube. Great guests, great questions. Thoroughly engaging and provocative content. Much love from California. Dr Myers is a great thinker, I hope to get his book. Today both men together are a revelation.
You’re too kind, Darren!
I really like dr. Myers points. I never thought about how countries that start out predominantly Christian are more accepting, compassionate and even financially better off then countries that weren't. But that hardly seems to check out. And his reasoning behind it makes quite a lot of logical sense.
3 min 30 sec in and I'm already tearing up. That's a high bar guys.
David A. Noebel and Dr. Fred Schwarz were the two guys who helped me understand the importance of worldview. Jeff had big shoes to fill and he is doing a great job.
Yes, he is.
Thank you, gentlemen. Sounds like a great book.
It is, you’ll enjoy it!
Thank you both for sharing the truth of Jesus Christ! He is truly God who came to earth! He is the Way, the Truth, and the Life! Our Hope forever!
A thank you letter to God
Thanks!
How I hope my grandsons (I'm not discriminating. My only granddaughters are our daughter's two female dogs.) can study with these amazing men. I have become a meddling granny so worried that our children and grandsons will follow the ways of their atheistic but wordly wise grandfather.
Getting to those Job level afflictions/tests for real. But the Blessings after/in such trials are something else. I need to finish the video lol but thank you for sharing
For me the book would be "make friends" with God, others and our environment (built and natural).
Perspective is relative. Truth is firm and unchanging. Modern people get the two things mixed up.
Blessed are you who are blind now. Blessed are those who do not know now. Blessed are you who are sick now. Blessed are you who have not seen the son of man. Blessed are you who are crippled. Blessed are you who are deaf. Blessed are you who are dumb. Most blessed are you who are dead now.
Woe to you who can see now. Woe to you who know now. Woe to you who are healthy now. Woe to you who have seen the son of man. Woe to you who can walk. Woe to you who can hear. Woe to you who can speak.
Most woes to you who are alive now.
The altar of religion and the altar of politics has done so much harm to humanity. Only worshipping through the altar of Jesus is where we find peace and freedom, both for ourselves and for the world.
If medieval Europe was based on Christianity there was an awful lot of prejudice and injustice. Suffering was around before the Enlightenment as well as after it. The problem with the argument about the relationship of different freedoms is the 'therefore'. It seems more likely that they arose together.
For those wishing to pursue the philosophy of this check out Esther Lightcap Meek, a mainstream protestant who takes our relation to god as the model for knowing (roughly speaking). She has a popular introduction to her work called something like A Little Manual for Knowing.
She has some lectures on youtube
I need to send my 17 y.o. to Summit. How do I find more info about it?
For a secular scholar making the case for the importance of Christianity to our current values there is Tom Holland's Dominion.
There are notions of equality outside Europe (where Christianity is influential) eg in Chinese faiths and Buddhism (which did much to undermine the caste system).
Mr Jeff God Bles You
At last, someone with great evidence that the bible
Is true.
What book would I write? Look for truth, not what your ego desires. "My work" is not that important. Ask Solomon who made great things, said wisdom the world envied. Possessed great wealth. "When all has been heard, the conclusion of the matter is this: Fear God and keep His commandments, because this is the whole duty of man"
Thanks for sharing. I’m curious, why assume writing a book is doing what your ego desires?
You Bill, are a perfect hypocritical example of why the church is failing. You bash this man for writing a message from his trials and concerns of a life with Christ, then you counter with writing a small electronic pamphlet form message about your knowledge on Christ. But you do it in an arrogant way by exalting your message over Jeff’s. Another book by a follower of Christ is just a written testimony. If you think like this you should just tell others who speak about their Savior to hold their tongue because you have your better way. Do better man. Mercy.
@@SeanMcDowell Maybe I missed it. I thought you asked at the start, what book would you write. I don't think writing a book in itself is doing what our ego desires. Although, it could be.
If we choose to write a book it should first and foremost be based in things true. We all live by faith ultimately, but not every book I read is truthful at all. Including some Christian books. People tend to push agendas from their worldview and traditions to justify personal beliefs, political views, dogma and egos and self-will as well.
Just think of books based around abortion or climate change - its endless -and the truth is often not a big factor.
@@billhesford6098 Okay, thanks for clarifying.
Yes, they do don’t they? I wish I still had hair. 😂
There's head knowledge and there's heart knowledge. From the head knowing perspective, I can't prove that God exists because God is supernatural. The supernatural does blend into the natural, and as such I do think a reasonable argument can be made for it's existence, but it's not something one can ultimately put in a jar and study, which is the kind of things nonbelievers wish when they say proof. When a Christian says I know Jesus/Christianity is the truth, we say this with heart knowledge. Anyone who has the Holy Spirit in them has this heart knowledge. You just KNOW, but someone who doesn't have the Holy Spirit in them will never really understand.
Truth isn't the same thing as meaning.
Agreed!
What is with their hair?
Conjoined twins with two heads that can control one body, one head wants to be a missionary the other a mercenary or what about a pastor and prostitute or gay and hetro. How do the god christians believe in judge them for there doings?
FIND TRUTH IN SCIENCE ONLY . . . ponder it, then DEAL WITH IT IS!
1 number and 2 words . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 6 million (slowly murdered) people . . . (?)
Does he believe in going to paradise after death or not? Anything he experiences here is doo-doo compared to heaven...right?
Jeff's story of recovery makes me glad for Jeff, but personally sad and angry. Instead of seeking the actual useful naturalistic treatments, like intensive chemotherapy that Jeff received, family members sought primarily after prayer and homeopathic 'organic' alternatives until it was too late.
Christian beliefs do provide many benefits, but at times also cause great harm. Jeff cites a lot of great oughts that he thinks come from Christianity and can't be derived purely naturalistically. I disagree. Many were around long before Christianity and there are plenty of ways Secular Morality can be derived. I also hope Jeff realizes he has selectively chosen many Biblical oughts he thinks are good but omitted oughts I think we would agree are bad.
"How the Truth of Jesus Changes Everything"
Yes it does, if you're a believer.
The truth is bible Jesus is a fictional character in cult mythology.
Even then, the concept and story is nonsensical.
Just goes to show some people will believe any nonsense, especially if this nonsense promises a fantasy escape from their fear of mortal reality.
All this guest did was what he accused others of doing... WWI... if you don't start with Biblical sources and his own selected stories....
If souls are the representation of God why does God send God to h***? Again this guest's ability to make sense of nonsense is amazing
“Truth exists and it’s Jesus “. Really? You failed to define what you mean by truth.
Truth is a concept not a person. The Acts of Jesus is not objective knowledge it’s magical thinking.
It’s interesting that you went to the Doctor when you became Unwell and not to church to pray for wellness.