How Archaeology Supports the Bible: A Conversation with Joel Kramer
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- What are the top archaeological discoveries that confirm the Bible? How good is the archaeological record for Scripture? In this interview, I talk with archaeologist Joel Kramer about the top 10 archaeological findings and his latest book "Where God Came Down."
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I was "dragged" into church in 2012, and the first sermon I heard was on the Battle of Jerusalem and learned about Hezekiah's water tunnel, strengthened broad walls, Lachish reliefs, Sennacherib's cylinder, etc, and, I was hooked (c.f. Isaiah 36-37). It took another year to surrender to Christ, but how amazing is this topic! Archaeology is one of the most underused apologetics, to which, we should use in sermons for context and understanding that these are not just wonderful "stories". Great work, Sean. GOD Bless
Yes archeology is a good way of doing apologetics from the pulpit
Amen, I agree. I could listen this stuff all day
Thanks for your comment I will add it to my catalogue of people who refute the claim “you can’t argue someone into the kingdom …”
@@jamesmaybury7452 AMEN - the Holy Spirit led me into seminary and apologetics. I also think we can't "argue", necessarily. We present the evidence, humbly (and doing it humbly and showing the peace we have is sometimes enlightening to people - "I want what you have"). We present it, and, "leave a stone in their shoe." The Holy Spirit then has fertile ground as HE wants us to be that vessel. GOD Bless!
love this conversation
Amazing video! I did not realize Joel Kramer was interviewed on this channel. He is a family friend and former neighbor on my mom’s side of the family. How cool! My grandpa would witness to the Mormons using the resources Joel created. Thanks for all that you do, Joel!
Joel Kramer has a video on testing the prophets where he challenges a Mormon with just that single parameter... its so good.
Yes it is! I still think about that man, Greg, I believe his name was. I pray he's found the one true God!
And he did it with such gentleness and respect.❤
Saw your comment. Then I saw the video. It was amazing!!
@@stacyw3250 I know! I pray I have that same attitude when I speak to people about Jesus or have to offer correction. It's not easy, but when we allow the Holy Spirit to work through us, He gives us what we need to get the job done, but we have to listen to Him and not just run forward full tilt on our own power trying to a accomplish God's goals on our own. We must all learn to walk in step with the Lord and not get in front of Him. That sometimes is the challenge.
Great post! Joel is one of my best friends and is my personal mentor as a religious tour leader in Israel. I have excavated with Joel and absolutely trust his knowledge of the Bible and the archaeological connections. Thanks for doing this, and thanks for promoting Joel's book.
funny hwo Joel hasn't found a single thing. He certainly is no more than a tour leader with his fake degree.
@@velkyn1 TROLL ALERT*
@@velkyn1 I have no idea who you are? Your 2 followers on TH-cam @velkyn 1 is not all that impressive. I wonder what credentials you have to criticize anyone? Joel has a Masters Degree in Archaeology from the University of the Holy Land, located in the Old City of Jerusalem, Israel. His mentor is well known archaeologist Simon Gibson. Joel has excavated in Jerusalem, Bethlehem, Beth Aven, Ai and has participated in other archaeological projects. Joel has lived in Israel and Jordan for over ten years and presently resides in Ammon. Not sure what your beef is with Joel, he is an archaeological scholar and author.
@@chipthompson6257 Oh noes, Chip, I don't have many followers. Nice to see that you think that's important. So, a imam with more followers than you is more truthier than you? :D
Joel has a "masters degree" from a diploma mill that has no accreditation and is not recognized a a university in Israel. Shimon Gibson has made various false claims, including he supposed found the "cave" of John the Baptist. His "evidence", a figure of a man on the cave wall. That's it, no name, no distinguishing attributes, nothing. The Biblical Archaeological Society says this about this nonsense "The argument linking the Suba cave to John the Baptist, however, is difficult and circumstantial. The claim that John the Baptist was venerated in the cave from Byzantine to Islamic times is based on the figure of a man incised on a wall high up in the cave (after centuries of soil deposition, the floor of the cave rose 7 feet). The figure, which is about 28 inches high, has no name attached, so we must guess who is depicted. He is wearing a garment like a skirt that is decorated with punctures in the plaster, perhaps to depict a garment of camel’s hair. He wears no shirt and bears a staff in his left hand. His oversized head bears a crown (or a hat). More striking to me is that he is beardless (a youth?), though all the figures Gibson adduces as parallels are also beardless. John is adult and bearded, however, in Christian art in the West.1 The crescent-shaped object sticking out to his left I take to be a shepherd’s bag, though Gibson seems to prefer seeing it as a lamb. The figure’s right hand is raised, perhaps in blessing. There is a hole in the plaster between his lower legs, which Gibson speculates held a relic of John the Baptist. That is possible but not demonstrated.
"The identification of the figure with John the Baptist rests upon (1) the general similarity of the figure to the person as described in the Gospels, (2) rough similarity to John the Baptist figures on eulogia tokens (good luck charms carried by pilgrims)a and on Byzantine metal ampullae, or holy water vessels (where he is bearded, wears a long garment and has a halo). The similarity is not very close, but then we do not know the artistic tradition of drawing John the Baptist in early Byzantine contexts."
Always a rather bad sign when Christians think this is a poor claim. A figure drawn in Byzantine times also is no evidence that John the Baptist was anywhere near the cave. There is only verbal tradition.
He like many failed apologists and archaeologists cannot show that their "interpretations" are true. We also have Gibson working with the Biblical Archaeological Society which is no more than a group of Chrisitans desperate to find anything at all to support their baseless claims. They were responsible for the unsupported claims about the James ossuary being supposed for James the brother of Jesus.
I've done excavations too. That doesn't mean everything I might claim is true just because I lifted some dirt.
It also doesn't matter where someone lives. Your desperate appeals to authority, which Joel doesn't have, fail.
@@lauraowen8142 "TROLL ALERT*" aka a Christian can't refute my points and chooses to make a false claim.
Loved this discussion and bought Joel's book. It is fantastic. The illustrations, maps, photos all make everything so easy to understand. The visiual/graphis quality is top notch. I love to sit with just a few pages at a time and absorb the geographical sense. Thanks, Joel! (And Sean!)
GLJ, I'm going to buy his book too..
@@Calatriste54 I only just reached the last page. I took my time. Now, I'm going to return to page 1 and begin again. I won't ever pay for a trip to Jerusalem, so I hope to create a picture in my mind of the area and these Biblical sites. Hope you enjoy the book as much as I. Am listening right now to this interview a 2nd time, and it comes alive with all of the pictures and info I remember from the book.
Joel, thank you for being So dang good at what you do! Your obviously annointed to do this thing!❤👍
Sean you are an excellent interviewer! Awesome content. Appreciate your spirit and keep up the good work!!!
Thank you!!!
Here, here!
Recently finished reading Joel's book. It is really good! It was hard to put down. I highly recommend it.
What a great conversation. Just inciting more passion for me on this topic and I just bought Joel’s book! Joel also has a great TH-cam channel with awesome content.
This is apologetics at its best!! Thank you so much for this phenomenal and edifying discussion!! God bless you both for all the hard work you both respectively do in order to educate and inspire the world to the knowledge and truth of Jesus Christ and the Bible!
This is bullshit
Was definitely not a model family man lol
good information. In our age of controversy , it is important to have a Joel Kramer.
Yes, Robert. There is a huge struggle to shape what we believe, here in this world. As for me, I choose to believe Biblical Scripture. Great reasons to do so..
Joel, so grateful for your many site tour explorations on YT. The Pavement video especially. Holy Sepulchure videos. You are a Warrior for the veracity in Bible Scripture and I have great confidence in your work.
thank you Joel so much, you guys are God send to equip his church. so grateful for your work,
One of my favourite apologists 😊
Really enjoyed your interview. Thank you
This is such a fascinating often overlooked or ignored topic on christian broadcasts especially interviews with archaeologists.
Always love Biblical archeology! Fun topic!
this was a genuinely fascinating listen.
Great interview! Yes PLEASE do more on those other topics :-)
Love Joel Kramer & his awesome work, and outstandingly videos @ Expedition Bible!
His videos are so beautifully done!
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i have learnt alot. God Bless you
Thank you for these awesome productions Sean!!!!
Wow! Absolutely amazing episode! Everything about it makes me want to praise God as He strengthens His people in all ways and this is one of them for me. Hope you bring Joel back, Sean. Thanks 🙏❤
Bought the book to share with my family and praying to visit Israel someday..
Excellent interview. Very informative.
Tks Sean. Joel is just fascinating to learn from. Very inspiring and empowering, could listen to him all day. May God Bless your work. ✝️🙏
Great book and great gift to maybe open the mind of someone who's seeking.
Great video! I would love to see you do another video with Joel just checking off the list of claimed archeological evidence (gold chariot wheels, split rock, Mt. Ararat in Saudi Arabia, etc.) and him giving his opinion of each.
Good idea. I’ll have him back for sure!
Thank you for everything you both do. All for God's glory praise JESUS YESHUAH 🙏🙏🙏❤️❤️❤️
Thank you so much! I have a desire to compile information that specifically points to physical evidence of the Bible. This is a fantastic start for me-this interview, next his book, and his documentaries/videos. If anyone else can point me good sources, I would appreciate it♥️
GO, Beth! Bless you!
Not exactly "physical evidence", but, please let me know if this is helpful? Overwhelming Evidence: God said that he would prove His existence by telling the future and never being wrong. A Pandemic (Plagues) are prophecied along with many other CONCURRENT EVENTs for the end times ( see near the bottom, Coming in the Future - # 2 Plagues.. These events have started.
Covid is part of it. And just because Humans ( maybe China's Wuhan Project) went awry, has little to do with God. God destroyed all the earth's population with a Flood. Get ready for more starting now. Here are many of the end time concurrent prophecies.
But the following end time prophecies are for sincere truth seekers. Based on what you have written, you do not seem to be one of them.
Matthew 24:33 Said Jesus: “…when ye shall see all these things (End time prophesies), know that it is near, even at the doors” What is the probability of all these things converging together at any point in history. Most are converging right now.
1. Israel regathered from many countries - Ezekiel 36:24 - written 6th century B.C.
2. And around the same time: Persia (Iran), Russia, Libya - allied and all enemies of Israel - Ezekiel 38:1-12 - about 570 B.C. Iran (Persia) has never been allied with Russia until recently.
3. And at same time: Many will say they are “Messiah” - Matthew 24:5 - Written about 60 A.D. (Christ or “Christ Consciousness” or “God”). Currently proclaimed by many involved in the New Age (ie: Oprah Winfrey’s friends); India’s Gurus, Scientologists, Kabbala followers, Gnostics, etc. Never before the 1960’s has this happened in the West
4.And at same time: Jerusalem “a burdensome stone to all people” Zechariah 12:3 - written about 500 B.C.
How likely that someone could just guess which city among all cities in the world, would be most likely to concern all humans in the end times (because of weapons of mass destruction & radical Islam)? And how likely that it would occur at the same time that those prophesies listed above & below are also all happening simultaneously.
5. And at the same time: Jesus’ Gospel to be preached to all nations Matthew 24:14. Via radio & Television, most people in the world today have heard of Jesus and His good news.
6. And at the same time: Possibility of all “flesh” being destroyed Matthew 24:22. Until the 1940’s, weapons of mass destruction didn’t exist.
7. And at the same time: “Great Earthquakes” in diverse places increasing like Matthew 24:7-8 “sorrows” = “birthpangs” in the Greek. We all know that birth-pangs grow in intensity as the time draws nearer. Mark 13:8, Luke 21:11.
Number of earthquakes worldwide with magnitude of 8.3 or greater by 10 year intervals (From the U.S. Geological Survey website):
1901-1910 4
1911-1920 1
1921-1930 3
1931-1940 2
1941-1950 1
1951-1960 3
1961-1970 3
1971-1980 1
1981-1990 0
1991-2000 1
2001-2010 7
Slightly revised figures for 10 year intervals show 2003 to, so far through 2012, a total of 8 earthquakes at magnitude of 8.3 or greater. The rest of the 10 year intervals are almost exactly as shown to our left, with 1902 through 1911 still a total of 4. No other 10 year interval had more than 3, just as on the intervals to our left.
Plus, consider another in Japan upgraded to 9.0 - March 2011. In 120 years there have been only 6 with magnitude of 8.8 or greater. Two of these have occurred just in the past 13 months Japan - 9.0 March, 11, 2011 & Chile 8.8 Feb. 27, 2010. Based on the prophesies, look for more great quakes to be occurring soon.
8. And at the same time: “And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold.” Matthew 24:12. Increasing terrorism, financial fraud, and lying politicians, worldwide, are causing many to be more fearful and distrusting of others.
9.And at the same time; “Likewise also as it was in the days of Lot…Even thus shall it be in the day when the son of man is revealed.” - Luke 17:28-30. The days of Lot were marked by widespread homosexuality - Genesis 19:4-8. Today, homosexuality is being promoted as an acceptable lifestyle in the West. This has not occurred in the west in the past 2000 years.
10. And at the same time: Knowledge shall be increased & many shall run “to and fro” - Daniel 12:4
11. Wars & Rumours of wars - Matthew 24:6 Rumors of civil war (usually termed "unrest" by the press) in Libya; Syria, Yemen, Bahrain, Jordan, & continuing in Iraq. Fighting in May 2011- Libyan vs. Tunisian troops, also in Sudan; Republic of Dagestan (against Russian fighters), Taliban against Afghanistan govt., CPI (Maoist) fighters against Govt. of India, clashes between border troops of Thailand & Cambodia, and Bolivia.
Coming in the Future:
1. Famines
2. Pestilence (Plague)
3. Peace Treaty with Israel - Daniel 9:27, Ezekiel 38:11 - to last for what appears to be 3.5 years
For there shall arise false christs and false prophets and shall show great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect. Behold I have told you before. Wherefore, if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not. For as the lightning cometh out of the east and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the son of man be.
(Matthew 24:24-28).
4. Many false prophets shall arise, and shall deceive many. Matthew 24:11
5. Mark of the Beast - Global Economy - Revelation 13:16-18
6. One World Governmental leader worshiped - Revelation 13:7-8
7. Damascus, a city of over 2 million inhabitants will be destroyed. See Isaiah 17:1 By the context of the chapter, this is an end time prophesy.
Please let me know if you have found this helpful.
To see more prophecies, etc. go to: www.truthseekers.ws
@@Truthseekersws i don’t think you understood my comment OR you have your own agenda and comment regardless if it is applicable to what anyone is talking about.
@@Yooperchic Beth, besides the archaeologic books, I would point you to Dr. Steven Meyer's recent book, "The Return of the GOD Hypothesis". It tackles biology and some other arguments in laymens' terms. I had to read his "Signature in the Cell", which, is very deep in scientific language - had to read it twice...lol. That said, his recent book is well worth it. GOD Bless
As a data architect i would love to work on a project gathering and documenting time series, geo spacial and dimensional data regarding these types of projects. Keep it up!
Go after it, GS! There's room for your skills..
Thank you for confirming the truth of scripture. I assume your dad had a great influence in you developing your faith. He went through so much to find faith in the Lordship of Jesus.
I would be curious to know Joel’s eschatological view and if archaeology has changed his eschatology overtime?
Thank you gentlemen great interview I really dug it.
I’ve enjoyed greatly this interview
I love his channel and book!
Thank you for your knowledge and passion for truth both of you!
*_Just came across your channel, Sean. Fantastic. Thank you._*
Fascinating! Thank you Sean. Keep educating us!
I was able to visit Hebron in 2016. I went alone by joining a small tour that is offered through the rabbi's there. I feel so blessed for this opportunity, knowing how unsafe it is to go there now.
What no tent pegs with his personal signature engraved. Thanks guys!
Dr. Sean, thank you!
Thank you so much. Love you man, take care and be blessed
i Love your score for the film Shane.
Yes have Joel back on
such important work! bless you
I am buying Joel Kramer as book, thank you.
Excellent observations!
You can’t deny the table of nations because the paternal maternal genetics supports the fact that the nations that are the ancient civilizations came from the grandsons and great grandsons of Noah.
Thank you so very much 🙏😊!
Great video
Somewhere back in time, I had a discussion with someone who read that the walls did indeed fall outward not inward as would be expected from attacks.
Thank you!
Enjoyed this video so much. One thing that struck me is he said well the archeologists might be wrong and not the Bible. It reminds me of paleontologists who find fossils in the “wrong “ era and they say well they were older than we thought instead that maybe the fossil record is wrong
Sean, the next time you get with Joel Kramer, would you please talk about the curse tablet of Yaweh from Mount Ebal. Duet 11:29 Some say it is now the oldest written mention of Yaweh and scholars can no longer honestly claim the Bible was written at a later time.
It is the oldest found in Israel, not the oldest. The oldest (thus far) is an inscription found in Sudan dating to around 1400 B.C. It certainly throws secular reasoning out the window about the dating of the Exodus. It would be in the in the 1400 timeframe (the Bible also gives the accurate date for this). Secularist are lost and look amateurish digging biblical history without the Bible.
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Is there an article on this?
@@Musick79 Just google "sudan jehovah inscription". Papers, websites, videos all about it.
Really interesting! Thank you for this.
I was helping with an elementary school art show. The judges came into the room and started piously observing the various childlike art pieces. They came to a very strange object and started ooing and awing over the “creativity of this child’s work.” The moms were looking at each other in disbelief. Just as the judges were about to award this strange object a blue ribbon, a teacher rushed in with another object, went straight to the judges, and placed the second object under the first and twisted the first into position. Low and behold a very simple paper house came into focus. “Oh my goodness we just found this piece in the hall, the child would’ve been so disappointed” explained the teacher.
The judges looked at each other with surprise and sheepishly retreated from their artistic pedestals.
We moms just rolled our eyes. 🙄
This area of study, and in depth scholarship based teaching that goes back to the original language scriptures and a thorough understanding of the scriptures, such as those from Dr. Michael Heiser's work -- is something that we should be using for evangelism and trying to reach people with the gospel.
The post modern western mind is very resistant to the classical methods of putting forth the gospel, but when presented with the history and understanding of how the Bible communicates the truth as depicted in the way it would have been understood by the people who lived when they wrote the Bible scriptures. If you are willing to accept the Bible as even possibly true, then you have the only consistent and lengthy history of the world, and especially the middle East in existence. When you add Archaeology to the supernatural worldview as the ancient people understood it, you indeed have the greatest story ever told. It can be compelling to a modern person, when a basic exposition of the gospel leaves them cold and skeptical.
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"Saint" Helena (the mother of the first Roman Emperor who was Christian, Constantine) lived about 300 years after Jesus' day. "Way back then, Helena traveled all over Palestine and was always fortunate. Whenever [she] found a thing mentioned in her Bible, Old or New Testament, she would go and search for that thing and never stop until she found it. If it was Adam, she would find Adam's grave; if it was the Ark of Noah, she would find the Ark; if it was Goliath or Joshua, she would find their graves." [Mark Twain in The Innocents Abroad]
Helena found the copper plate that Pilate had nailed to the top of her Savior's cross, and upon which Pilate had written, "This is the King of the Jews." She also found the three crosses upon which Christ and the two thieves were crucified, and the exact spot of the crucifixion, and the very spot where the soldiers divided the rainment of the Saviour, not to mention the tomb of Melchizadek (an Old Testament prophet), and the rift in the rock made by the earthquake (mentioned only in Matthew) at the time of Jesus' Crucifixion. And she founded churches to commemorate such discoveries.
Mark Twain in The Innocents Abroad tells the true story of his trip to Europe and the Holy Land, a trip he took with a group of pious Christian sightseers. Together, they visited numerous holy sites in the Near East, including, "an Arab village ... where Noah's tomb lies under lock and key." Twain wrote, "Noah's tomb is built of stone and is covered with a long stone building. The building had to be long because the grave of the honored old navigator is two hundred and ten feet long! It is only about four feet high, though. He must have cast a shadow like a lightning rod. The proof that this is the genuine spot where Noah was buried can only be doubted by uncommonly incredulous people. The evidence is pretty straight. Shem, the son of Noah, was present at the burial, and showed the place to his descendants, who transmitted the knowledge to their descendants, and the lineal descendants of these introduced themselves to us today. It was pleasant to make the acquaintance of members of so respectable a family. It was a thing to be proud of. It was the next best thing to being acquainted with Noah himself."
Cool The altar was from Abraham because it was near a city. Proof for sure. If most biblical archaeologists disagree, better discuss archaeological reasons rather than assuming it is them that has the presuppositional bias.
Good stuff guys’
This is so interesting. I don't think I am alone when I thought Biblical Archaeology was mainly Christian Archaeologists!
Biblical archaeology is just like Christian apologetics it is nothing but lying for god aka faith.
@@ፕኗ-ቀ6ፐ hello, would you elaborate on what you mean, please?
Hello, I really appreciate this information. I wanted to ask a question in regards to an individual named Ron Wyatt, I know he wasn’t a certified archeologist but did claim archaeological findings and I wanted to know if we can trust his information on all his findings? He is from Tennessee. I would appreciate any information I can use. Thank you!!
Thank you so much!!!!
"Maybe the archeologists is wrong and the Bible is right." ... well said brother!
digging the Miami Vice vest!!!
Please hear the gospel message! I'm reading a book called, "Person of Interest "by J. Warner Wallace. So good and so much evidence!!!! For the life of Jesus!!!
A few problems....questions
The bible is a tranlation of older books...mainly the translation of the Sumerian books....
The bible has many versions....adapted!!
Try again please
What "Bible" is Joel referring to? I'm so curious.
People also try to prove the disprove the truth which never changes only facts changes.
I would like to buy the book but isn’t for sale on Amazon Uk or other sites. Any advice?
Hmmm. I’d try emailing Joel through his site. Sorry about that.
This might sound like a stupid question but why are all these sites buried under ground. I totally believe the Bible just curious though
Dust and erosion buries abandoned or destroyed dwellings sometimes a farmer ploughed remains in during their work. People level a building and build another... So a few reasons
In general, dense things sink, and dust piles up.
Minute: 21: ? I need help: So, it appears, there is no way that stones or rocks that presumably was all that Abraham used for the ''Promise Alter of Covenant Alter'' was
most likely respected as a real place, and the so called ''proof'' that Abraham existed as a real person is because of the way later people acted around this alter?
Proverbs 25*2
It is God’s privilege to conceal things and the king’s privilege. Archeology?
I love the way historical science is supporting the Bible more and more and more. The Bible is the anvil that has broken a thousand hammers. The very definition of truth is the explanation that matches the real world - the Bible exhibits this kind of truth at every turn - both in OT and NT.
Less and less and less. Just 200 years ago, most everyone believes the bible was completely true, infallible and divine. Now people literally count the things make it historical fiction rather than fantasy.
@@MrRoguetech I disagree, they keep finding biblical places and names - filling in supposed gaps, not creating bigger gaps.
@@theHentySkeptic So you think the question is whether *any* of the bible is true? I think the question is whether any of the bible is false. It had been believed the bible was "innerrant". People - even scientists - thought everything in the bible was true.
Using evidence, we have found that the everything in the bible is not false - for instance names and places that had been borrowed from reality, but it always required ignoring evidence or outright proof to believe to believe all the events of the bible. Hence why almost no scientist believes the bible is inerrant any more. Today, the standard has become whether it's incorrant. Is that word for without correctness?
The standard has switched from believing everything the bible says to trying to find anything the bible isn't wrong about. We know Jerusalem and New York were real places, but we don't know that Jesus and Spider-Man were real people.
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With so many false teachers you don't know who's who stay safe family
Cool.
👋Continue the great work and teachings Mr. Joel💯🙏🤍
It's a lot info but facts are facts
Did you say “Copper Scrolls”? That’s the big question.
Thank you for this!
His channel is a must watch!
EXPEDITION BIBLE on youtube.
The Bible is true!
How bout having L.A. Marzulli
Why did he say the Holy Sepulchre the place where Jesus died and was burried?
Because Jesus died and was buried (but He resurrected)
Do we have Archeological evidence for Zoroaster buddha rama krishna zeus Jupiter these guys???
Jupiter comes from Deus Pater. Zeus comes from Deus word.
Archeology and geology can date things to millions of years.
Not the Biblical events in this video.
Theoretically
Dr. Schmel Gibson? 2:07
Again, could you try and have a debate with secular archeologists.......the other side needs to be heard.
I thoroughly enjoyed watching a video where Mr. Kramer totally blew away the beliefs of a lifelong Latter Day Saint.
way to hate!! Christianity at its worst when you hate
@@bretscherer4926 I don't hate anyone. All people are my brothers in Christ. I pity all who have heard of Jesus but do not follow the one true faith - Catholicism.
I'm 10 minutes in and basically hearing him say; start with the Bible and filter everything through the Bible to determine if it's true.
If you are filtering everything through the Bible why would I even bother listening to this if I don't already believe the Bible?
Exactly right. I came in wondering if Christian apologetics in this field had changed any since my days as a believer, and whether there were real challenges I should consider. What I heard was flawed reasoning and leaps of logic to defend a presuppositional position. Nothing's changed, and it's sad.
Glad I wasn't the only one thinking this way. It's a shame, as I know Shaun cares about looking into other sources to confirm what the Bible says to try and determine its accuracy. There's no problem using the Bible as a source but you cannot treat it any differently from any other source in your research, otherwise you're not being academically rigorous.
As a Christian I agree completely. If you don't believe something to be true why waste your time listening to an explanation of it.
@@bh5317 well if I missed something and the Bible is true I would want to know. If there's good evidence in archeology to support the Bible you can bet I would watch it.
Why make a video about archeology supporting the Bible if you only consider archeology to be accurate if it supports the Bible?
@@jbeiler55 that makes sense. I certainly agree there is something wrong with that argument. We can certainly prove the Bible is Historicaly reliable but does it prove what the purpose of the Bible is as being true? I don't think it does. On the other hand, everyone has faults in their arguments but does that disprove the entirety? I think that is an error as well.
Another assumption and error that others make is, they assume that the overview in the video is the entire work and thought put into the topic instead of realizing it is a summation of all of it that is put together for others to be able to understand. Therefore, when they find a small error in the argument they "throw the baby out with the bathwater".
As Christians we don't take everything an atheist says as a lie but neither do we trust it fully and often we find how it fits perfectly into what we believe. We produce PHD after PHD who challenges the standard paradigm and comment after comment is posted as if these people know more about the topic than the one presenting it. Though certainly a possibility it is rarely the case and more often than not they do not argue the actual points being made. Instead they hurl insults as if they were facts to be argued. Yes, it is frustrating.
Ok Back to work.
Would you be willing to have archeologists who disagree with him on? In my opinion, he seems to be baking the evidence somewhat. If your trying to prove the Bible your going to interpret certain evidence in support of your view and be dismissive of what doesn't, just as secular scholars would do.
The evidence for the Truth of Abba/Jesus Lord and Savior/Holy Spirit, the Bible, and Christianity is solid and immense. The issue is not the evidence, the issue is the WILL to accept and believe the evidence, leading to true repentance and eternal Life.
It's "apologetics" like this that makes some people doubt the validity of the Bible... That is NOT apologetics, that's disguised preaching.
Is this guy related to Josh McDowell?
Dr. Sean McDowell is the son of Josh McDowell.
@@WhereWhatHuh so that’s where his ignorance comes from. Josh McDowell
Yes.
Archeologists doesn't agree with the time of the fall of Jericho. They disagree with the Biblical dating for the fall of Jericho.
If you take away dates and look at the details of the description of the destruction of Jericho. What you find especially is the wall and it fell outward and created a ramp for the invaders to run into the city. The dates of the destruction of Jericho could be off as it is dated from Egyptian dates which has room from moving time a few hundred years. Check out the series of videos called pattern of evidence. If you watched this video and others regarding Jericho, the reason why people question Jericho historically goes back to Kathleen Kenyon. She dated the destruction incorrect because she expected a certian type of pottery to be present which she didn't find, yet the pottery she was expecting to find was discovered later. She didn't date on actual pottery evidence that was there, but of absence of pottery she didn't find.
You may find many sites that were mentioned in the Bible but it will not confirm what happened or what was said.
Or as Prof. Finklestein et al said in their book "The Bible Unearthed" ..... there was absolutely no way that many people could have survived walking around in the desert for so long ..... undetected, and not only are there no records, there is no archaeological evidence to support the Exodus. However, the Atrahasis truly supports the great deluge and is in fact where the story came from. There are 15 counts of the virgin birth, death and resurrection story as you go further back from the days of Jesus. There are also baby in a basket stories in the ancient writings. Thats my 2 cents worth.
@@sticky59 and a good 2 cents worth Sticky.....
Dear @Don Gee,
"but it will not confirm what happened or what was said."
Don, actually, sometimes it does !
I realize that finding the location of a city does not necessarily confirm the whole story, but sometimes it can confirm more than what you seem to be aware of.
In the excavation of Jericho, there were many aspects of the dig, that supported many specific portions of the story, described in the Text of the Book of Joshua. The excavation confirmed
1. the existence and location of the city of Jericho
2. that Jericho was a walled fortress
3. that the incidence did occur in the springtime, after the harvest.
4. that the walls actually did fall
5. The walls fell in such a way that the Israelites could go "straight up"
into the city
6. the city was set on fire
7. the walls fell before, the city was set on fire
8. a portion of the wall did not fall
9. there were windows in the actual external wall
10. there was no long prolonged siege
11. there was no complete plundering of the city (very unusual)
(These finds were confirmed by Garstang, Kenyon and Woods)
These discoveries in the excavation, confirm some of the details told in the narrative of the destruction of Jericho, as written in the Book of Joshua. The excavation matches the story in very specific ways, supporting the historicity of the story.
These finds also support the authenticity of the text of Joshua. Many people hypothesize that the Book of Joshua was a legendary story, written over 700 yrs. after it supposedly occurred, by people at a later time.
The finds of the excavation casts strong doubt against this hypothesis.
Since the excavation matches the story in very specific ways, how
could these writers, making up a story 700+ yrs. later, have know what actually happened at Jericho 700+ yrs earlier, and make up a story that was consistent with the findings, that happened 700 yrs. before they were even born ? The archaeological finds in the excavation of Jericho make this popular hypothesis very unlikely, unreasonable and essentially obsolete.
Archaeological finds can shed light on issues, that casts significant doubts on theories.
Obviously, not every excavation gives such detailed information, that is so specific the the narrative of the event. However, sometimes the finds in the excavation does give strong support to the event.
The discovery of Joshua Ai and it excavation has also given good support of that narrative and there are others.
Be Well,
DZ
@@Silverheart1956 Thanks for your reply..It would be good if there was any supporting evidence from other peoples of the time, unfortunately I am not aware of any such information for any activity in the OT, do you know of any?
Dear@@dongee6351,
Hello !
Sorry but, I am not really clear on what you are asking.
Are you asking if there has been any archaeological finds that support the historicity of persons mentioned in the Old Testament ?
Be Well,
DZ
The tourism industry is revolved solely upon archaeology; all things related to their ancient history.
We have written annals from Assyrian and Babylonia Kings that are consistent with the Bible, Lachish as one conquest example. A huge mound (equivalent to a 6 story building) sits in Mosul (ancient Nineveh). I am convinced that it is King Sennacherib's palace, who sacked Lachish.
Presently, I am reading research done by Gerald Gertoux, 'Assyrian and biblical chronologies are they reliable'? They are.
My idea is this; instead of doing excavations only, what if we revive the ancient palaces and administrative buildings from Nineveh, Nimrud, Ur and Sumeria, etc.? 'If we build it- they will come'.
(Babylon is the only exception. It will remain desolate forever).
We can literally bring these places back using the same mud to make the bricks. (Think of the fiery furnace of Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego from the Book of Daniel).
Iraq is truly a biblical place. Many believe the Garden of Eden is there. New evidence shows that the Tower of Babel could be in Barsippa.
Abraham and Sarah came from there. Nineveh is mentioned numerous times as well as Babylon. Nineveh was the city that God was about to destroy, but they were spared. Read Jonah.
Iraq is an open-air museum which is interconnected to the Bible. My thought is to make a Silk Road (so to speak) that will lead to all the places and events from the Bible throughout the Near East region.
People forget or simply don't know that the Bible is a historical book. Rather than show artifacts in a museum, people can see the cities, palaces, administrative buildings, Tigris/Euphrates river for themselves (in Iraq as a start).
The Iraqi Ministers must be presented with future projected dollars that pertain specifically to the tourism industry. The deal we can present them; is they have to match our money dollar for dollar. 'If we build it- they will come'.
It is time to turn the tide. We have the ability to present something tangible on their table. A deal which benefit them (tourism), and an open-air museum for the world to see.
I have recently returned from Baghdad. It is the most fascinating country I have ever visited. It is ancient as time itself. I truly don't have the words to express this historically remarkable place.
Lastly, I am hopeful no one gets to hung up over the Christian side of this proposal (for non-Christians). I am a Christian, and I know that there are millions of us; who want to see for ourselves all the places in Iraq that the Bible speaks of.
The bottom line, this is about tourism for Iraq, and following ancient history for the rest of us in the world. The ancient Iraqis were instrumental in bringing Civilization to the world through the first ever written text, math/geometry, science, architecture, etc. An absolutely amazing and beautiful place.
Yep yep
(55:48) There should be an archeological dig at ground zero. Oh wait, you can't, because the crime scene was scrubbed and all the witnesses, experts, and thermite was ignored.
I’m from the UK and Amazon says Joel’s book isn’t available. (Which I’m surprised as this video only posted 11 months ago) Is it only available in the states?
Wait, you're saying that archaeology can't be done without the aid of the Bible? There is a whole field of archaeology with its own rules and methodology that does not depend on the Bible or any ancient text to test itself against.