This Simple Question Has Haunted Me For Years
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- This is the first video of a 3-part series about saw milling. This first part is entirely dedicated to me trying to find clarity in the age old question of which one is the best. The bandsaw or the chainsaw?
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Your ending comment says it all; "any saw mill is better than no saw mill". Especially if you have project for the boards/ planks/ beams you are making.
Thanks Bill, I’m happy you agree 👍
Much needed video on YT. Brilliant! I will use it as a reference when people wonder why I do chainsaw milling. With a fixed relatively small budget that most of us have, universe looks very different than for commercial sawmills. If one has 2k, one can only get a chainsaw mill anyway. If one has 12k budget for a sawmill, one can buy either a bandsaw mill or a chainsaw mill and a loader. Now that loader part will make the chainsaw mill outperform the bandsaw by light years. As numbers start to rise, game starts to change drastically.
Thanks man, I appreciate it! Already you and so many others commenting seem to share this view, that’s really nice to see. Thanks for sharing your insight, i hope you and the family are doing great :)
Excellent video. You're right about the two saws. Everything has its purpose, and nothing does everything. Also, something is better than nothing, every time!
Very well said. Thank you for sharing your knowledge and your wisdom.
Loved that last comment, "any sawmill is better than no sawmill at all" trying to start a crafting business with my wife and thought best chance for it to be a success is to keep material costs as low as possible. Have been debating for a while now between these two types. However since I don't need to cut huge logs, yet, for it would seem chainsaw milling will be the more cost efficient at this time. Thank you.
Thank you Lem, very interesting to hear your thoughts as well. I wish you good success for you and your wife with your business
I don't have a chainsaw mill - I only have a chainsaw. I've used that small saw to cut slabs freehand that have become magnificent tables everyone who sees goes "Wow! - not knowing the wood was cut freehand using just a silly little €200 chainsaw - ok, I had to do a lot of work after to even stuff out - but still - don't let "I don't have..." become "I can't do" - because you can if you have the will but not the mill. If you want to cut wood to produce pieces of furniture people can't resist running their hands over, you don't need all the gear, you just need to want to.
The "oddity" is - what is seen by sawyers as "Flaws" - the uneven thickness, the dips & dives in the surface - those when sanded/worked smooth by hand are what makes a piece of natural timber "WoW!!" instead of being just another machine produced yawn Ikea surface. Loads strive - spend fortunes even - trying to get 100% flat and even slabs - when in reality, those are boring. People adore curves, features - the stuff machines do away with. So they can keep their bandsaws, tbh - they're Dull. Now when I cut a slab, I barely care if it's even level- the wood will know what's the right cut - freehand. The result will be "Wow!" - not "Yawn" - even if all you have (or want) is a saw that cuts - not the fancy stuff that produces the same fancy stuff the other guy is producing because he bought the exact same fancy stuff that produces the exact same "Yawn".. The more a cut runs off, these days, the more I think "Yes!!" - it will make the end product piece even more interesting. I have never walked through B&Q with people & had them go "Wow - look at that! That's beautiful!" when looking at wood - here, even the small 4' slabs, people go "Wow!" - so yeah - flat is Dull.
I "could have" btw - if I wanted - but I don't. I'm just fine cutting wobbly slabs freehand with my silly little saw.
G'day BW, you're correct everyone that wants to start milling timber/lumber shouldn't be put off by other people's personal opinions or preferences in relation to which particular type of mill is the best. In the Northern Hemisphere it really only depends on your budget, In saying that wide kerf vertical bandsaws work very well in Australia in the hardest woods on Earth however imagine a thin kerf horizontal band trying to work it's way through an old growth log that's twice as hard as an Oak knot at five percent moisture content it's like a rolling sea the wood dust gets under the blade and it heats up expands and it's up and down we go not to mention it's 40C before we even get started 👍.
It is so great to see your story and to hear all of it! Thank you for sharing
I’m the one who should say thanks, i always appreciate a nice comment like that
I agree 100%! Just get something/anything, and start cutting. Great projects can only happen when you've got slabs ready to use. Love the video's, and admire the work you do.
Thanks a lot Matt! Happy to hear you see it that way too. All the best to you!
New sub, I've been chainsaw milling for about 4 years now. I have also been in the process of building a bandsaw mill. I have toyed with the idea of a stationary chainsaw mill over a bandsaw mill. This video kind of pushes me towards a chainsaw mill. Thanks for sharing your experiences. Can't wait for the follow up videos.
Hi Dave! I’m happy to welcome you to the channel. Always nice to see a fellow sawyer here. I really enjoy when others join in to share their experiences with sawmilling, and im happy you find chainsawmilling works well for you. I just love the simplicity of it. Gonna have more sawmilling content coming here soon 👍
Love the video. I enjoy any chance I get to spend the day in the woods and open up a beautiful log to look at its life story. Thanks for explaining with an open mind. Chainsaw mill is best for my hobby/side hustle situation, but I can definitely see the benefits of a bandsaw mill for the high yield production sawer
Thanks Tim! You hit the nail on the head with your comment,
Just getting into chainsaw milling myself and enjoy watching your videos. I appreciate the honesty that a band saw mill is better but the chainsaw mill has it's place. I enjoy the time the chainsaw mill gives you to ponder while working your way through a long cut. Now to patiently wait for parts 2 and 3.
Haha yes, a lot of pondering i actually pretty nice. Thanks for commenting
I feel that statement of bandsaw being better is oversimplification of sorts. Especially from the perspective of one man show. I feel commercial sawmills make one man chainsaw sawmills look bad when in fact they shouldn't. As with setting parameters differently, like putting cost effectiveness to highest priority and some others like making thick cuts, chainsaw is much superior. Then again if you want to cut posts out of huge logs, swinging circular blade is much faster and overall better than a bandsaw...
Your video’s are partly to blame why I own two 92 cc saws and a chainsaw mill. Thank you for inspiring us. After milling my first log I was like oh I wish I had a bandsaw mill!😂. But for what they cost I can’t as a novice with no acres of tree’s justify one at the moment. Plus the need for a loader is just not doable at the moment. I would really like to build my own sawmill. Would love to see you finish yours out. Very cool to say you’ve built your own!
haha thats awesome man, hope you are having a good time sawmilling 👍 i hope to be able to free up my schedule for a few weeks and get the bandsaw mill finished, cant say when, but when i do i will definitely make a couple of videos about the build.
@@backstromwoodwork566 Understand. Life get so busy!
I just acquired my first mill. I have some nic3 oak and maple I want to mill. Watching your channel closely. Everything you share is greatly appreciated thank you for impowering guys lik emyself who otherwise would be making too many mistakes to start. Thank you
Very interesting video and love your attitude to work and informing others, keep it up buddy 👌
Great video, thanks for your thoughts. I've been chainsaw milling for a few months and I've just started to build a small electric bandsaw mill. Mostly because I have a lot of the components already available and I'm nota fan of the fumes coming out of the chainsaw.
I definitely wouldn't be working my way up to bigger logs without the stepping stone of the chainsaw
Hey thanks a lot. I can relate to the fumes, never been a fan of that myself either. Really cool that you got a bandsaw under way, having parts already is half the battle. Best of luck to you
@@backstromwoodwork566 don't they have a respirator that takes the fumes out of the air for you?
Starting to chainsaw milling. Thank you for your thoughts. I’ll be watching more of you videos
Thats awesome my friend! Hope you get to cut some nice wood
So I was thinking about old two man saw with cam on Alaskan type mill with electric motor
Love the video it was great. I wish I had a big chainsaw mill had to cut a big log in half to use my small bandsaw mill. Thoes big slabs look great
Thanks cody! Hey thats a pretty good idea
Gday from Australia, firstly congratulations for your excellent videos, 10/10. I have recently cut some wide red cedar slabs (1850 mm wide), with my Stihl 088 attached to Granberg mill and 84" GB guide bar. I did encounter some bar flex which resulted in up to 4mm to 5mm variations in the middle of the slab in relation to both outside edges (thinner along middle of slab), have you any ideas on how I can prevent or reduce this occurring?? Australion Red Cedar is a soft rainforest species of timber, keep the videos rolling mate👍👍
Hi another great video if the logs came to me and I had the space , money and machinery I would always go bandsaw but if you go to where the logs are most of the time in the bush with no road access then chainsaw mill is better
Thanks a lot. Yeah taking the chainsaw mill to the log is a huge plus
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Stort tack Daniel! Mycket uppskattat :)
Thanks for the video
Well u know my thoughts on milling!😃 Love the video as usual dude speak shortly for others who aren't u and me talking about this my thoughts chainsaw milling means u can go anywhere were the log lies without major cost and machines in a sense but bansaw milling is the dream but costs allot really between the mill and machines to move them. Just my thoughts. 🏴👍
Always happy for you input buddy, be well!
I think i’ve logged over 100+ hrs researching milling videos over the last year and the Logosol big mill wide slabber is probably the best of both worlds. Plus if it becomes more than a passion you can upgrade to an electric motor, burning fuel is just not viable given todays prices. The only thing stopping me is that it’s very pricey for what it is and they also have another product called F2 plus which is great for making lumber but not big slabs. So essentially I’m stuck with a brand new tractor and ms881 using a $150 chainsaw mill. Finally is there any point to making slabs if you don’t eventually invest in a vacuum kiln?.
outstanding
Great video. Personally I’m building a band mill and hopefully have it going this week. Chose the band mill because of the thinner blade. It’s almost 6 feet wide but I made it so the idle wheel can be moved in to only 3 feet wide so I can use a smaller blade for most of my milling.
Your closing thoughts are great. Regardless of what you do, DO SOMETHING. 😁
Working alone has its moments.
Thanks for being the woodworking philosopher you are.❤️👹
Haha thanks Roger!
Watch Belko Wood to see a guy struggle with chain issues.
Great channel, thanks for the tip buddy
You say that a bandsaw mill can dip and cause uneven surface well I've had this happen with a chainsaw mill as well after hitting nails.
Yeah extreme stuff like that can cause a chainsawmill to do weird stuff as well, my point was that under normal circumstances bandsaws are a little bit more flimsy.