The first shot out of a clean barrel is often a little slower, and often hits a little lower. Some benchrest shooters "foul" the barrel with some powdered graphite ("dri-lube" lock lube type stuff), and most F-Class shooters just take a fouling shot before chronographing or shooting for groups. People have a lot of theories, but the best seems to be that there is still some oil/lubricant in the barrel after cleaning, and thus the first shot is shooting with lower friction, which makes lower peak pressure, which results in lower velocity. Seems to make sense to me. This is a great shooting gun and some great shooting on your part. Nice seeing .28 Nosler at work.
I walked my factory savage tactical with box ammo out from 500 to 1k no issues at all. Then jumped right to a 1 moa target at 1k and got it. Then took it to 1500. I'm very impressed. I was shooting 300Wm.
So many outstanding cartridges out there, but the 28 Nosler is a benchmark cartridge. Delightful video BTW. Good to see Savage getting bragged on and appreciated a bit.
I run the 162gr ELD-x in my Fierce Fury in 28 Nosler. It's a hammer. On everything. Also have a few Savage rifles in various calibers. They build a quality rig for the price.
That's great shooting for a lightweight hunting rig. Paul did a great job tailoring those loads for the rifle. My final test after getting a hunting rifle dialed in, is to see how it does first shot cold bore at 200 yards the next day if possible. Cold bore, cold shooter, cold morning.
Great info. I'm considering a 6.5 prc. I run a 6.5 needmore. 147gr ELDM @2800 fps. give or take a little 140gr ELDM @2820 give or take a little, 130gr Gamechanger at 2950 give or take fps from a 26" Criterion MTU. I'm busted up and full of shrapnel so lighter recoil is my preference. Being able to use some of the same components is a big plus also for the 6.5 creed and 6.5 prc.
I almost bought a ultralight. In a 280AI rifle. But it had a 22 inch barrel. And a 1@9 twist barrel. So I went with a Xbolt. A Hells Canyon Speed Long Range 280AI. It has a 1@8 twist and a 26 inch barrel. A heavy sporter flutted barrel. I wanted to get the best velocity out of the round. I have several boxes of Hornady ELD bullets. In 162 gr X and M. A 175 gr X and 180 gr M bullets. I am hoping to shoot ELD M 180 gr. And the 1@9 mite not stabilized them. Just have to decide on a scope. I looked at the Leupold VX5 3-15x44 mm CDS. And a VX6 3x18x50 mm CDS.
I have a friend who has a 280 Ai In a Hill County Rife. It shoots great. I like that caliber. I always opt for more magnification scope. At least for out here in the west. Thanks for watching.
Lol, Dave, you were the first person i knew with this Savage ultralight. And I was truly impressed by the gun, not so much the shooter... joking. When you shot that coyote that jumped off the cliff at over 600 yards, I was like "wow I need one of these!"
The factory bolts have a lot of up and down and side to side movement, but there is an aftermarket bolt body from PTG for Savage rifles 110. The PTG bolt body cost is long action $209.00 from MIDWAY USA. I placed the factory bolt body on my 110 Tactical in 308W. I made other changes to the Savage 110 rifle the bolt less stress on the bolt lift.
I believe if it's a hunting rifle, and it gets shot 50 times a year on average. Then I would say you would get many years of hunting out of it before a barrel needs replaced. Thanks for watching.
@@Guidedhunts - Agree. I used to shoot my 7 REM Mag close to 100 per year. Just pre purchase thoughts on the 28 Nosler or 7 PRC. Replacing after 3 to 5 years wouldn’t bother me for the performance.
@steverutkowski8141 it kicked less than my tikka 7mm rem mag because it had the brake. Honestly, for as lightweight as this Savage is, I was surprised at how well it did on target at distance. It would make a fantastic mountain rifle. Actually, it would be great for anyone looking for a lightweight gun to carry and hunt with.
Your fathers in laws 7prc will shoot 3k using factory ammunition if it has a 24inch barrel. Just not with newly produced Hornady they had to change the powders due to availability after they got testing done. But the early lots will shot the 3k out of a 24 inch barrel. Try the Federal ammunition with the eld x bullet loaded in it.
I saw that ammo on the shelf the other day. Didn't even realize Federal loaded Hornady bullets. It did shoot great with factory Hornady, so we stayed with Hornady. Thanks for watching.
@@Guidedhunts I have already read the technical bulletin from Hornady and yes, they had to change because the original powder they were using, I think it was RL 26, had a shortage. But Federal, being part of a bigger company, has more access to the right powders and are getting closer to 3,000 fps. I have a 7 PRC in another brand. I have quite a bit of the PH 175 gr ELD-X. I don't have a chrono but even if I change the MV to 2800, I am still going to enjoy this round for accuracy and performance. Primarily, I am a hunter and I doubt I will be shooting at game past 700 yards. At 700 yards, the bullet is still over 2,000 fps. If I change to the CX Outfitter for specific monolithic performance, that brings it in to 650 yards, which is still fine. And whitetail where I hunt, you can't get a clear shot past 300 yards, anyway. A lot of people love the .28 Nosler, even if it chews up barrels for the experimenter. As opposed to your client, who is simply testing and handloading to get a consistent point of impact.
@ronws2007 I like the 28 nosler and 7mm prc. If I had to choose, I probably would go with the 7 prc. Just for the fact, it was designed to shoot heavy, long, high bc bullets. And it would be a hunting gun. Thanks for watching.
Working too hard, sig bdx is much easier. I’m same about accuracy, it’s for hunting, a one inch group is fine for me. If I can slap a 8 inch metal at 500 I’m good. I’m not gonna do off the land measurements and all that shit.
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The first shot out of a clean barrel is often a little slower, and often hits a little lower. Some benchrest shooters "foul" the barrel with some powdered graphite ("dri-lube" lock lube type stuff), and most F-Class shooters just take a fouling shot before chronographing or shooting for groups.
People have a lot of theories, but the best seems to be that there is still some oil/lubricant in the barrel after cleaning, and thus the first shot is shooting with lower friction, which makes lower peak pressure, which results in lower velocity. Seems to make sense to me.
This is a great shooting gun and some great shooting on your part. Nice seeing .28 Nosler at work.
I walked my factory savage tactical with box ammo out from 500 to 1k no issues at all. Then jumped right to a 1 moa target at 1k and got it. Then took it to 1500. I'm very impressed. I was shooting 300Wm.
Nice job. They usually are capable rifles. What surprised me is for such a lightweight rifle how well it did. Thanks for watching.
So many outstanding cartridges out there, but the 28 Nosler is a benchmark cartridge. Delightful video BTW. Good to see Savage getting bragged on and appreciated a bit.
Thanks for watching.
I run the 162gr ELD-x in my Fierce Fury in 28 Nosler. It's a hammer. On everything. Also have a few Savage rifles in various calibers. They build a quality rig for the price.
Thanks for watching.
That's great shooting for a lightweight hunting rig.
Paul did a great job tailoring those loads for the rifle.
My final test after getting a hunting rifle dialed in, is to see how it does first shot cold bore at 200 yards the next day if possible.
Cold bore, cold shooter, cold morning.
Thanks for watching. Yes, that's a great point. 👍
I have several Savage rifles and they have performed better than I thought they would. I'm wanting to build a 6.5 prc this year on a 110 receiver.
I’ve set about 6 of these rifles up in the 28 with the exact same optics and have had the same results! Pretty impressive! Thanks for all your time.
Awesome. Thanks for watching.
Great video. Keep them coming
Appreciate it. 👍
Excellent. My 110 Storm in 7mm Mag is excellent. My son's Storm in 30/06 is super consistent also. We have been very pleased.
Thanks for watching. 👍
I have that same rifle in 6.5 prc. It currently sits in a MDT HNT 26 chassis and has a TI Pro 4 muzzle break.
I love my 28 Nosler Ultralite! 175 ABLR Nosler factory ammo @ 3030 fps.
They are sweet for the money!
I've hit an 18 inch gong with my savage 110 ultralite at a mile. The rifle is a tac driver.
1MOA at a mile heck of a shot congratulations
I have the exact same rifle in the 6.5 PRC truly amazing!!!
57.5 grains of H-1000
143 ELD-X , killing machine
Awesome. I've been thinking about this in a 6.5 prc.
Great info.
I'm considering a 6.5 prc. I run a 6.5 needmore. 147gr ELDM @2800 fps. give or take a little 140gr ELDM @2820 give or take a little, 130gr Gamechanger at 2950 give or take fps from a 26" Criterion MTU. I'm busted up and full of shrapnel so lighter recoil is my preference. Being able to use some of the same components is a big plus also for the 6.5 creed and 6.5 prc.
Awesome vid. I have the same rifle as your dad in 7prc. Still trying to get it to group. This gives me hope.
He uses the Hornady 175 gr eldx. It shot really well. Thanks for watching.
Never had a savage that wouldnt shoot with guns 1000.00 more expensive.
28 Nosler is a beast
I almost bought a ultralight. In a 280AI rifle. But it had a 22 inch barrel. And a 1@9 twist barrel. So I went with a Xbolt. A Hells Canyon Speed Long Range 280AI. It has a 1@8 twist and a 26 inch barrel. A heavy sporter flutted barrel. I wanted to get the best velocity out of the round. I have several boxes of Hornady ELD bullets. In 162 gr X and M. A 175 gr X and 180 gr M bullets. I am hoping to shoot ELD M 180 gr. And the 1@9 mite not stabilized them. Just have to decide on a scope. I looked at the Leupold VX5 3-15x44 mm CDS. And a VX6 3x18x50 mm CDS.
I have a friend who has a 280 Ai In a Hill County Rife. It shoots great. I like that caliber. I always opt for more magnification scope. At least for out here in the west. Thanks for watching.
On my 28 Nos i get 3170 fps with a Nosler 175gr ABLR and 79.2gr H1000 but with a 26" barrel twisted at 1:8.25.
Nice! What rifle do you have?
You don’t want the trigger to surprise you. That’s an ND. You should know when that trigger is going to break.
Same rifle I shoot, and you have seen the shots I've made with it. I think your groups would be smaller if you weren't wearing Sitka Gear... js 😂
Lol, Dave, you were the first person i knew with this Savage ultralight. And I was truly impressed by the gun, not so much the shooter... joking. When you shot that coyote that jumped off the cliff at over 600 yards, I was like "wow I need one of these!"
Lol! They will freaking shoot!
Good video. But what were those loose hay stacks? Maybe a close up pic and explanation on how and why.
Cut and bailed for livestock ya reckon!!!
It looks similar to the cross sig souer , 300 Winchester Magnum
I.have one in 6.5prc. .34 groups 1000yards no problem
Cabelas has this same gun in 6.5 prc on clearance for 1000 dollars. Awesome deal and gun. I thought about buying it. Thanks for watching.
So does a 110 come stock with a proof research barrel or was that put on afterwards?
It comes stock with the proof barrel. It's a production rifle that shoots great. Thanks for watching.
The factory bolts have a lot of up and down and side to side movement, but there is an aftermarket bolt body from PTG for Savage rifles 110. The PTG bolt body cost is long action $209.00 from MIDWAY USA. I placed the factory bolt body on my 110 Tactical in 308W. I made other changes to the Savage 110 rifle the bolt less stress on the bolt lift.
The Ol’ 28 Nosler!! The internet says short barrel life. Ok. Sincerely wonder what it would be here with the PR barrel with hunting rifle use.
I believe if it's a hunting rifle, and it gets shot 50 times a year on average. Then I would say you would get many years of hunting out of it before a barrel needs replaced. Thanks for watching.
@@Guidedhunts - Agree. I used to shoot my 7 REM Mag close to 100 per year. Just pre purchase thoughts on the 28 Nosler or 7 PRC. Replacing after 3 to 5 years wouldn’t bother me for the performance.
Barrel life & magnums dont go together.
Black Rain Ordinance is the brake manufacturer
Thanks
@@Guidedhunts- What did you think about its performance? Especially with 28 Nosler and a lt weight rig.
@steverutkowski8141 it kicked less than my tikka 7mm rem mag because it had the brake. Honestly, for as lightweight as this Savage is, I was surprised at how well it did on target at distance. It would make a fantastic mountain rifle. Actually, it would be great for anyone looking for a lightweight gun to carry and hunt with.
Your fathers in laws 7prc will shoot 3k using factory ammunition if it has a 24inch barrel. Just not with newly produced Hornady they had to change the powders due to availability after they got testing done. But the early lots will shot the 3k out of a 24 inch barrel. Try the Federal ammunition with the eld x bullet loaded in it.
I saw that ammo on the shelf the other day. Didn't even realize Federal loaded Hornady bullets. It did shoot great with factory Hornady, so we stayed with Hornady. Thanks for watching.
@@Guidedhunts I have already read the technical bulletin from Hornady and yes, they had to change because the original powder they were using, I think it was RL 26, had a shortage. But Federal, being part of a bigger company, has more access to the right powders and are getting closer to 3,000 fps. I have a 7 PRC in another brand. I have quite a bit of the PH 175 gr ELD-X. I don't have a chrono but even if I change the MV to 2800, I am still going to enjoy this round for accuracy and performance. Primarily, I am a hunter and I doubt I will be shooting at game past 700 yards. At 700 yards, the bullet is still over 2,000 fps.
If I change to the CX Outfitter for specific monolithic performance, that brings it in to 650 yards, which is still fine. And whitetail where I hunt, you can't get a clear shot past 300 yards, anyway.
A lot of people love the .28 Nosler, even if it chews up barrels for the experimenter. As opposed to your client, who is simply testing and handloading to get a consistent point of impact.
@ronws2007 I like the 28 nosler and 7mm prc. If I had to choose, I probably would go with the 7 prc. Just for the fact, it was designed to shoot heavy, long, high bc bullets. And it would be a hunting gun. Thanks for watching.
7prc is 22 inch barell. In savage
@jamessammann9183 The 22-inch barrel on the 7 prc kinda stinks for ballistics, but it would be handy for running a suppressor.
I like how people don’t count flyers when they shoot. 😅
Does not come with break.not seen that one ever
You didn't pull that first shot, that was a cold bore shot and possibly a clean bore shot.
It could have been clean, bore. I didn't ask Paul if he cleaned it before I got it. He probably did clean it. Thanks for watching.
Clean bore would explain low velocity also. After cleaning, the first shot is always slow.
@@cz455guru3 That's why I always fire that fouling shot before recording data.
Amazing！
Don't sell his hand loads short.
Working too hard, sig bdx is much easier. I’m same about accuracy, it’s for hunting, a one inch group is fine for me. If I can slap a 8 inch metal at 500 I’m good. I’m not gonna do off the land measurements and all that shit.
With that high dollar proof barrel it better shoot 1/4 moa or less.....
Cabelas has this gun in some calibers for 1099.