Neither Toto or Tato seemed especially bright. They immediately spent their money on motorcycles $3000 a month might have seemed like quite a lot of money
My all-time Charlie FAVE is when he keeps dropping "I mean these guys are not messing around". Charlie trying to convey to the jurors the mortal danger he was in. It's a wonder the jury did not break out in a cackle of laughter. I am sure many were close. What a tool.
That's *EXACTLY* what they made/allowed him to do. Talk himself into a *CONVULUTED* web of a story, full of lies. Entangled his own self. He had it well rehearseed and memorized though!
On the wires, Charlie said he only remembers what he had for breakfast the previous day, because he has the same thing everyday. He sure as heck blew that out of the water today. His memory is superb, almost a decade later.
Right ! lol He remembered it all and even remembered the things he said when the wire didn't pick up....like at Dulce Vida when they were supposedly talking in the car prior to being seated then when he spoke to his dad outside after the sushi bar meeting...lol. The defense is so transparent.....anyone who cannot see through their BS is not smart at all.
Yep. He remembers minute details of conversations, yet can't remember what the other gift was he gave his dad for his 70th birthday, other than paella. LMAO!!
Sat on the coffee table, while Katie stashed his cash. LOL… And didn’t he then have the audacity to point out how long it’s been, regarding the forgotten gift? LOLOL
So he didn’t go to the police even though he felt like his life was I’m danger?! Full stop..if he had absolutely nothing to hide he would’ve gone to them. Obviously.
Not to argue but just another way of thinking… if the police solved everything ahead of an issue then I could see going to them. However, dealing with gang related crimes etc there is a different way of handling things both street and LE. Especially IF LE had a need greater than this family with such a notorious gang.
I have some issues with this scenario. 1) Why would Tuto and Tato drive up to Tallahassee, kill Dan THEN commit extortion. Wouldn’t have been better to tell Charlie they will k$ll his parents if they don’t get their money?
Anything would have been better. Charlie’s assuming we’re going to think normal, everyday gang life is basically a Jason Bourne movie. He also thinks of himself as such a cool, important, powerful big deal, but it’s so obvious that he’s the type of guy who would go straight to the cops if a brown person messed with him.
I believe this was what 'charlie' wanted him to do. I believe all his defense theory was Charlie's concoction; did you see him passing notes to Roshbaum? and then RB told him "that's enough".@@jesusdaughter4299
I hurt so much for Dan’s parents hearing their grandsons interacting with Donna so often on the wire taps. Ruth and Phil were denied a relationship with the boys and meanwhile these horrible people who murdered the boys’ father are raising them.
@@andrearel3703So you believe he’s innocent? Out of all the ppl to feel badly for and Charlie is the one? Hopefully there isn’t a person on the jury that shares your opinion. If you were to do your research, watch the trial of Katie, her babies’ father and the Latin King guy, I doubt you’d feel the same way. He’s simply a good actor.
Mama, I thought the same, felt so bad for Dan’s Mom, hearing the grandkids, so heartbreaking she lost her only son, then the grandkids, who don’t even have his last name! Omgosh 😢😞💔. Hope her bill for Grandparents goes through for a law & I reallllly hope the grandkids choose to see them.🫰
Amazing how not one recording actually has him mention the “initial extortion/blackmail scheme” … I hope the jury sees through it. Ironically, I think if the defense atty & Charlie only talked for an hour, and then said “every other call was along these lines, as based on the extortion”, I would have been more likely to give him the benefit of the doubt. But as they continue talking, Charlie becomes more & more unbelievable. And Georgia or her prosecution partner will tear him up tomorrow. He’ll stay the course, but it’s not going to be pretty.
It's a horrible defense. 2 goons that blew a hole through the floorboard and fell into a florida canal (alligators) are made out to be the brains here lol
It’s so laughable how the def attorney gets excited at his own questions & turns to look at everyone as if he is on to something like “see I’m nailing this case!” 😂
My Mother was SO CONCERNED that a strange man, who could be a KILLER, approached her on the street and threatened her... So I met with her the next afternoon.
This is really a case of common sense. Which isn't so common for Charlie. He just talked himself right into a guilty verdict. Those LK will show him just how scary they are in prison!! He's put the blame on the wrong ones.
I was TOTALLY thinking that while he talked… especially as the Latin King fellow’s testimony was nearly angry that it was nothing to do with the Latin Kings! It’s not going to be pretty in prison.
@@Jahlen.johnson It's all circumstantial... but in the DV recording it is clear that he know that a rental car was used. He also knows or guesses that there was no DNA evidence left in the kill vehicle. He also is offering to pay the 5K dollar extortion fee when a sane person would take the matter to the police and set up the extortion as a sting. He also suggests that h will kill the extortionist with a pistol that Charlie does own. Why end up with a possible murder rap and a 20 year sentence over an extortion that has noting to do with you ? It makes no sense unless you want to silence someone with damning information on a crime you committed. These are just a few reasons that make CJA look very guilty of conspiring to murder Dan M and also of covering up the crime.
@@Jahlen.johnson Just common sense. No one is going to drive to Tallahassee two times and THEN expect payment. And he's a coward for letting Dan's parents suffer like he did.
@@Jahlen.johnsonright!! I agree.. & why would he put cameras up & be paranoid with a gun ? Definitely not for the cops , he had to have been really scared or someone..
That fact that he keeps saying "what happened to ME, what happened to ME"...not what happened to Dan. Dude, a man literally died and all you think about is yourself.
If you know who the Latin kings are you KNOW the cops ain’t no kinda leverage for being scared… going to them is like signing a death waiver. These Latin kings do not play!!!! Period !
@@Joseph-fw6xx Sad think is they will have to keep up the story because of the cheques that Donna wrote. She'll be ready for trial about Dec of 25.. this grinds slowly on but it grinds finely...
the math ain’t mathN here… the day Dan was murdered.. Katy comes to Charlie’s house to notify him she is the one orchestrated the entire thing .. Charlie pops a xanax and allows Katy to sleep in his bed the same night. Yeah that right there just doesn’t make sense imo
If I was him (and innocent), and was worried about talking to police, it wouldn’t only be because I’m afraid of people coming after me. It would be because I’d be afraid of being blamed for hiring a hitman.
Right! His reasoning is so weird. I wouldn’t want to be implicated in a murder if I was innocent, but if I was innocent there wouldn’t be any evidence!
So, Katie hears he’ll pay $300k to unalive Dan. She remembers all kinds of details like his last name (I swear my wife’s brother doesn’t know my last name as me, and we love each other). She’s able to figure out his address. Then she’s able to know (from hundreds of miles away) when he’ll be home and she sicks the killers on him. She is a genius
...which goes back to the age old question - who phoned through the intended itinerary of Dan to Katie or Charlie ?? Maybe someone at the airport where he did is booking to fly to NY was jealous of his frequent flier miles and had him killed... Rashbaum Esq needs to run with this theory... quick .. where's my phone ??
Let’s be clear Chuckie….. you didn’t get dragged into anything!!!! You and your nosey mousy Mommie did this to Dan. Your Mom better be indicted soon too or she just got away with premeditated 1st degree murder!!!! This is the case of the spoiled children ALWAYS getting what they wanted or needed on a silver platter and it is disgusting!!!
I can’t wait till tomorrow when Georgia the pit bull takes on Charlie, she’s been wanting to get at him for a long time. So glad it’s Friday cause I’m coming home from work getting comfy and watching this masterpiece 😂
Chuck is the only person in the world that gets extorted after the dirty deed is done. Come on defense, you might as well claim Chuck killed Dan because his mom demanded he do it. Oh wait, she did.
This defense attorney so skilled at redirected/leading witness to current t answer without using leading questions. If Charlie answers incorrectly he asks again, slightly different and uses emphasis and tone as hints. It’s brilliant.
Well after the whole direct did think harmful went over almost everything sentence to give reason to counter what state out on in evidence but it made it glaring, to me, how ridiculous explanations were and how rehearsed.
I’ve only seen his testimony, not the rest of the trial, but why again would his GF saying she knew who murdered his BIL cause him to hand her $138,000 instead of them both getting on the phone to tell the cops who to pick up for questioning?
Because she (Katie) is in on it with her druggie baby daddy & his gang friend who killed the BIL & she told him they would kill him if he went to the cops & most gang members have ‘family’ that would take care of that even if the killers are in jail, so she was playing on his fears.
Charlie says he thought the "bump" was the police (I doubt it) but he was so scared he couldn't go to the police so he asked Katie "Is this you guys?" and she said "Yes!" When it was the police? What a buffoon!
I really was starting to wonder if Wendi arranged the murder and set her brother up but after his testimony today I am confident he arranged the murder. Wendi was in on it too. Wendi threw her brother under the bus when she told investigators about the joke her brother told (I decided to get you a TV instead of a hit man to kill your ex husband). This was a private joke between the two of them and had it not been for that joke; I doubt the prosecutors would have looked at her brother that closely from the beginning. So from the very beginning Wendi pointed the finger at him. Why he's still willing back Wendi I'll never know. Wendi has manipulation down to a fine art.
Prof laCasse brought up CJA independently as a potential suspect . BTW by having haphazard email deletion skills , old Wendi set Mom up to take a fall. That one evil email ex Donna , which has featured in this trial was found through Wendi's IT. She should have immediately shut down all her old eml accounts because people like Gmail will purge old gmail accounts in a hard delete once the account is shut down and dormant.
@JahlenJohnson11 You need to ACTUALLY listen to this guy... He's nothing more than a psychopath who's bumping his gums! He's great at telling stories, and that's all this is. He planned it, and now he's trying to get out of it!
I think that will be the least of their concerns. My guess is Donna will be the next one indicted. Not for accessory after the fact though. Same charges as Charlie.
@@johnqpublic5350 Me too. In my opinion, Donna was the by far the most responsible for this murder. I could be wrong but my impression is that Charlie didn’t care nearly enough about Wendi to spend this kind of $ & commit a capital offense. BUT for the fact that he was nearly obsessed w/having mommy’s approval & making her happy. Like I said, I could be wrong. But I think Donna is the #1 reason Dan Markel is dead.
He talks to his dad about extorsion in the sushi bar but only tells him outside about the murder?????? Hard to believe dad did not ask why he is getting extorted right there and then.
Rehearsal testimony, not believable, boring testimony, the whole family was involved and I hope they all go to jail. Poor the children. May God protect them and Mrs. Market and get justice.
@@beavoicenotanecho8590No she wasn’t at all planning to do that with her grandchildren. They live in Canada. She quite understandably wanted to make sure the children were in a safe place IF this family were arrested for her son’s murder, temporarily, while they had time to travel to collect them, and then take care of them. You must have missed this very important FACT stated many times. Wendi had alleged this, but it’s simply not true. They wanted to ensure the children were safe, that is all. She seems very normal to me… however the Adelsons are anything but normal. Extremely toxic, dysfunctional and just plain weird. It’s a shame this bunch are raising those kids now. At some point, they will start to put the pieces of this together on their own.
I could not wait to get home after watching Charlie’s testimony to make some comments! First of all, why was there never any mention of the first extortion on any of the tapped calls between any one? If Donna and Charlie truly had no involvement in the murder of Dan Markel, then why were they so worried about the bump? Also, are we supposed to believe that two young Hispanic gang bangers randomly decided, on their own, to go to Tallahassee and kill Dan Markel, who had no connection to any of them, except through Catherine Magbanua and her relationship with Charlie. I cannot wait for Georgia Cappleman to cross examine Charlie tomorrow! I hope she rips his testimony to shreds!
@graciemay899 The checks might mean that Harvey really didn't know they did this. That was a way for Donna to help w the payment without Harvey seeing a big sum of money leaving his account. She wouldn't talk to Charlie til she got out of the car at a rest stop & she was with Harvey. My mom kept so much from my Dad too growing up & scared us that if he knew he'd have a heart attack & that was just the norm to leave Dad out of the loop. It feels like it's the same dynamic here. She washed his stapled money & secretly gave it to him as clueless Harvey remains clueless. Then her contribution was the checks. I may be totally wrong but it just feel like it was done without him.
If **I** were ever in a bad jam, THIS defense attorney would be my FIRST choice! His preemption of _every single_ argument the State is gonna try to make shows the most impressive forethought I’ve seen from any other defense attorney, and this AIN’T no small task. 😮💨👌
Absolutely agree, he's very impressive. Especially with the prosecutions tricks of using half truths, innuendos and jokes to make him look like a sinister mastermind
There are so many blatant and nonsensical things that incriminate him and point to his guilt, though. So, any half decent attorney should be able to pre-emptively answer the States questions.
@@ALH626 I don’t know how many trials you’ve seen, but no “half decent attorney” could’ve done NEAR the job this guy did with all that evidence on his face. This guy did more than almost any other could’ve done, hence the plaudits.
Oh so the killers killed DM not to threaten frame Charlie but extort Charlie with death threats. Why did then even go all way Tallahassee to kill Dan? Could just threaten Charlie. Not logical. It’s over Adelson.
How is it that people go through years of law school, works long hours to make a name for themselves, open their own law practice, then decide to defend a criminal with this joke of a defense is shameful. This case is a circus. Charlie and his attorneys are clowns 🤡
@@TheVAULTofHORROR I think that Rashbaum would have a stressed induced early death if he kept taking on murder cases of this complexity - and this is his first one. He need s to chill and stay with W collar crime defense and go yachting on the weekends. Way to go Dan.. don't let yr partners overwork y'all.
Because private criminal defense attorneys make a lot of money. He once was an Assistant U. S. Attorney for the southern district of Florida.....a prosecutor who tried dozens of cases all resulting in convictions. He is no slouch.
Why have defense attorneys stopped defending actual innocent people and started twisting and dementing facts to try and get guilty people off? This is not what having a defense is supposed to be. So many defense attorneys want the win so bad they don’t care who is released into society. They get paid either way. Their job is to make sure that the prosecution is following laws and not just running over the accused in court. They aren’t meant to look for any plausible theory to manipulate the jury. It’s gross to me.
I was on Charlie's side because first-degree murder is serious but when he testified Magbanua confessed about it being her fault and she knew who did it and was so sorry that was the end for me.
Is this trial the first time you'd heard of this murder, the bump etc.? I'm just interested to see if no prior knowledge of this has come into play of ppl thinking Charlie was innocent before his testimony.
@@wilsal2485 No, not at all. Shouldn't have said I was "on his side" because I know nothing about him but I watched all of Magbanua's trial. I try not to assume anything when life w/o is on the table. There are people that think Wendi and Donna are guilty and maybe they are but that's what trials are for.
@@sunnyann7Thanks for answering :) I prefer to go into trials thinking someone's innocent but I couldn't this time because of the other trials & even the media.
@@wilsal2485 I agree, especially knowing Sigfredo and Luis were guilty no question and there was an obvious link. I also like to see if there's any wiggle room for the jury to acquit for lack of evidence. And it took so long for Charlie to be arrested so...
Why do they even bother to swear a defendant in.......if they are guilty they will be lying through their teeth to save their butts. They will NEVER be charged for perjury anyway. The Adelson family are so diabolical. Justice for Dan, his family and his boys.
2 issues I've found having listened to only half of this so far - #1 Charlie used the word MURDERED with Katie before he was told that Dan had died from his injuries. #2 When asked why he was being tough regarding having a dead Latin king in his driveway, Charlie said because they were messing with his mom and him. He did not say because they took the life of my nephew's dad! My brother in law! My sisters husband! I'm poking my own holes in his testimony lol
Did you hear him say wendi called Katie? Huh? I thought wendi " supposedly didn't know anything ,so why call Katie? I have to find the timestamp..but you are right! Good catch
Imagine waiting ages to have full on implant surgery, doing your research, saving up, going on a waiting list only for your surgery date to arrive to be told your surgery is cancelled because your surgeon has been arrested for murder 😂
What? Planning going out with Katie but when plan changed to just come over had to frantically find baby sitter? And parents text “outside your house” but that doesn’t mean they are? 🤣
Doesn't seem like Sigfredo would say "a third of a million dollars"😐. And why would they kill Dan and not Charlie or any of his family members since the "extortioners" new the Adelson's had money?
Charlie is going to prison. He has no idea how bad his life is going to be in there. Throwing around gang names and calling out gangs like Latin Kings, Charlie has no idea, NO IDEA how bad his life is going to be. And he has his mommy to thank.
Just for the record, Sammy the undercover cop is the worst fake gang member I've ever heard in my life. At least try to sound slightly authentic. That aside, the "bump" was an amazing strategy 👏
Charlie is way too calm, especially while testifying about when Katie informed him that she knew who killed Dan and that Charlie was going to be extorted. It would have been at least a little more believable if he showed some emotion on the stand - fear, anger or whatever he claimed he felt that night. He speaks in such a matter-of-fact manner, like he’s talking to one of his patients about a procedure he’s going to perform.
@@CarolynYanikSame *EXACT* thing I said. It's obvious he rehearsed and memorized that script to a tee. The only thing with that is it *DOES* come across like a *well-rehersed script* and *not the truth!*
😂 @ the defense attorney's 'shocked voice' when good ol' Charlie is saying that Katy confessed to him as having 'said too much'. I hope these jurors are astute and not gullible for that ridiculousness. TM 54:10 or so.
Charlie was thinking once he finally got on the stand the jury would fall in Love with him. He thought the judge and all court personnel would fall under his spell and be enamored by his wit and command . Georgia Cappleman took no time to chip away at Charlie’s Facade and reduce him to the arrogant, entitled Mamma’s boy he was. Charlie’s lay a way installment plan Extortion defense was laughable to the jury. With his conviction everyone was glad for the Justice for Professor Dan Markel and his loved one’s.
Why do I hear the 🎵theme music🎵 from the movie Rocky, when he’s running 🏃🏻♂️up the steps, playing in the background when I think of Georgia’s cross examination of Charlie tomorrow?!? 🔔 Ding! 🥊 Ding! 🥊 🔔
Mommy & daddy told the defense and prosecutor that they would plead the 5th on the stand if they were called to testify. Isn't that what "innocent" people do? LMAO!
His story is SO bad, completely unbelievable, and makes no sense whatsoever! Yeah, okay ...how many people are going to kill someone and not demand any payment up front? Get real! Also, extortionists do let their victims pay over time with personal checks! Get real. Common sense. He has had over a year in jail to think of something and this is the best he could make up?
Exactly!! And according to Charlie’s “story” Katie convinced these guys to go ahead and kill a total stranger because she knows a rich guy that MIGHT pay them if they threaten him!!?? I mean come on! 🙄
It shows how mediocre he is. And the fact his parents get to basically raise Dan and Wendi’s boys, when Charlie and Wendi turned out to be such lying narcissists, is infuriating
Prime example of Why ppl should discipline their children during the ages of 5 - 18 yrs of age Listening to this guy trying to explain himself outta a situation he ( himself) has created is absolutely unbelievable and comical 😂😂😂😂😂😂 The part about Jimmy Hoffa 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 Too funny !! Who’s going to believe that Charlie isn’t guilty Who’s going to believe Donna isn’t Guilty Who’s going to believe Wendy isn’t guilty- only a fool would believe these ppl aren’t guilty!
Why hasn’t anyone asked him WHY he’s so comfortable believing the bump is the police… hasnt he been hiding from them for almost 2 years at the his point, but he’s all comfy if the police are extorting him? Please make this make sense.
I love how the hitmen offered Charlie a payment plan of $3k/month. That's really considerate of them!
LOL.
😂
@mreko1566,
Lol!
Neither Toto or Tato seemed especially bright. They immediately spent their money on motorcycles
$3000 a month might have seemed like quite a lot of money
Not really payment plan. Balance didn't reduce, so that's just interest
Omg i could never have been on this jury - there's no way I'd be able to keep myself from laughing out loud, during Chuckles' extortion story.
It's hilarious but it ain't that hilarious lol
I’m listening now & I literally just said “OMG!!”out loud & laughed cause it’s so ridiculous 😂
I was hoping live chat would still be activated so I could read what ppl were saying while he said this 😂
Grateful for Law and Crime's coverage of this intriguing case.
Me too❣️
My all-time Charlie FAVE is when he keeps dropping "I mean these guys are not messing around". Charlie trying to convey to the jurors the mortal danger he was in. It's a wonder the jury did not break out in a cackle of laughter. I am sure many were close. What a tool.
Charlie's in mortal danger now.
His own mom said when she got the bump letter “ it’s has to do with you and me “
Notice how the prosecution is not objecting to all the hearsay in his testimony. They're just letting him talk himself into a corner.
Let’s see if he remembers his lies on cross.
That's *EXACTLY* what they made/allowed him to do. Talk himself into a *CONVULUTED* web of a story, full of lies. Entangled his own self. He had it well rehearseed and memorized though!
@@deb-77dLol. Charlie remembered everything. He recalled the exact length and date , and content of of a phone call.
Courtroom reporters said the jury was sighing and rolling their eyes during his testimony. I was doing the same, but add yawning.
Hopefully this is true.
It is. Also, another juror who one of the courtroom reporters said seemed to be favoring Charlie, is no longer favoring him. Hope they are right!
His story is so ridiculous. There are so many point where what he says just doesn’t add up. I cannot wait for cross.
@@IzzyMarielhow does a reporter know who someone is favoring? Serious question
Thank you! Have been wondering about the jury’s reaction.
On the wires, Charlie said he only remembers what he had for breakfast the previous day, because he has the same thing everyday. He sure as heck blew that out of the water today. His memory is superb, almost a decade later.
Right ! lol He remembered it all and even remembered the things he said when the wire didn't pick up....like at Dulce Vida when they were supposedly talking in the car prior to being seated then when he spoke to his dad outside after the sushi bar meeting...lol. The defense is so transparent.....anyone who cannot see through their BS is not smart at all.
AND he even corrected Rashbaum a few times. LOL Totally hilarious.
Like when he said he sat on a wooden coffee table lol....
Yep. He remembers minute details of conversations, yet can't remember what the other gift was he gave his dad for his 70th birthday, other than paella. LMAO!!
Sat on the coffee table, while Katie stashed his cash. LOL… And didn’t he then have the audacity to point out how long it’s been, regarding the forgotten gift? LOLOL
So he didn’t go to the police even though he felt like his life was I’m danger?! Full stop..if he had absolutely nothing to hide he would’ve gone to them. Obviously.
Not to argue but just another way of thinking… if the police solved everything ahead of an issue then I could see going to them. However, dealing with gang related crimes etc there is a different way of handling things both street and LE. Especially IF LE had a need greater than this family with such a notorious gang.
So you’re not from Miami?
Innocent multi-millionaires would've at least called a team of lawyers to discuss the matter and explore options, inclduing calling the police.
I have some issues with this scenario.
1) Why would Tuto and Tato drive up to Tallahassee, kill Dan THEN commit extortion. Wouldn’t have been better to tell Charlie they will k$ll his parents if they don’t get their money?
…hence why Charlie is now sitting back in jail. The jury didn’t believe him either
Anything would have been better. Charlie’s assuming we’re going to think normal, everyday gang life is basically a Jason Bourne movie. He also thinks of himself as such a cool, important, powerful big deal, but it’s so obvious that he’s the type of guy who would go straight to the cops if a brown person messed with him.
So he wants the jury to believe a hitman went ahead and killed Dan without securing part of the money first or at least discussing money. Ok Charlie 🙄
The hitman didn’t get paid until after the job was done lol. Idk what you’re talking about… but Katie got the money when Luis and sigfredo got back
Right! And funding the trip and knowing exactly where he lives and when he would be home?!?! THIS ATTORNEY SHOULD BE ASHAMED OF HIMSELF.
@@lifewithdri Do you struggle with reading? If you do that's okay. I'm talking about what he wants the jury to believe.
@@jesusdaughter4299exactly!!
I believe this was what 'charlie' wanted him to do. I believe all his defense theory was Charlie's concoction; did you see him passing notes to Roshbaum? and then RB told him "that's enough".@@jesusdaughter4299
I hurt so much for Dan’s parents hearing their grandsons interacting with Donna so often on the wire taps.
Ruth and Phil were denied a relationship with the boys and meanwhile these horrible people who murdered the boys’ father are raising them.
And the grandsons are teens now so they have got to be wondering if Grandma Donna was involved!
I hurt for Charlie. Look at this poor guy on the stand. Hes been through enough...
@@andrearel3703So you believe he’s innocent? Out of all the ppl to feel badly for and Charlie is the one? Hopefully there isn’t a person on the jury that shares your opinion. If you were to do your research, watch the trial of Katie, her babies’ father and the Latin King guy, I doubt you’d feel the same way. He’s simply a good actor.
Mama, I thought the same, felt so bad for Dan’s Mom, hearing the grandkids, so heartbreaking she lost her only son, then the grandkids, who don’t even have his last name! Omgosh 😢😞💔. Hope her bill for Grandparents goes through for a law & I reallllly hope the grandkids choose to see them.🫰
@@andrearel3703WTF. Anything he’s involved in he’s brought on himself with his controlling, narcissistic mother.
Amazing how not one recording actually has him mention the “initial extortion/blackmail scheme” … I hope the jury sees through it. Ironically, I think if the defense atty & Charlie only talked for an hour, and then said “every other call was along these lines, as based on the extortion”, I would have been more likely to give him the benefit of the doubt. But as they continue talking, Charlie becomes more & more unbelievable. And Georgia or her prosecution partner will tear him up tomorrow. He’ll stay the course, but it’s not going to be pretty.
Oh what a tangled web he DID weave!! Preposterous defense 😤
Many times I find myself questioning if Charlie’s lawyer is actually on his side 😅
It's a horrible defense. 2 goons that blew a hole through the floorboard and fell into a florida canal (alligators) are made out to be the brains here lol
@@ashleyann220 😂😂😂
It’s so laughable how the def attorney gets excited at his own questions & turns to look at everyone as if he is on to something like “see I’m nailing this case!” 😂
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 so true!!!
How many times do you have to say the word "extortion" to get the Jury to believe you were extorted 🤔.
123 times
EXTORTION. YOU HAVE THE EX , THE TORT, AND NOW THE SHUN. RIP DAN MARKEL
Haha .
It’s always painful listening to a bad liar
“This tv is probably about five”. 🤣🤣🤣😀. Yup that’s not code.
Definitely a Top 5 moment in the whole case.
yea rigth 😂😂😂😂
If they declare this clown innocent in Florida, the murderers will start saying that they were extorted. prepare your popcorn😂😂😂😂
My Mother was SO CONCERNED that a strange man, who could be a KILLER, approached her on the street and threatened her... So I met with her the next afternoon.
And my mom didn’t call the police after her life was threatened, said no one, ever.
Or even call her again that night.
The math ain’t mathing!
😂😂😂
This is really a case of common sense. Which isn't so common for Charlie. He just talked himself right into a guilty verdict. Those LK will show him just how scary they are in prison!! He's put the blame on the wrong ones.
I was TOTALLY thinking that while he talked… especially as the Latin King fellow’s testimony was nearly angry that it was nothing to do with the Latin Kings! It’s not going to be pretty in prison.
@@Jahlen.johnson It's all circumstantial... but in the DV recording it is clear that he know that a rental car was used. He also knows or guesses that there was no DNA evidence left in the kill vehicle. He also is offering to pay the 5K dollar extortion fee when a sane person would take the matter to the police and set up the extortion as a sting.
He also suggests that h will kill the extortionist with a pistol that Charlie does own. Why end up with a possible murder rap and a 20 year sentence over an extortion that has noting to do with you ?
It makes no sense unless you want to silence someone with damning information on a crime you committed.
These are just a few reasons that make CJA look very guilty of conspiring to murder Dan M and also of covering up the crime.
@@Jahlen.johnson Just common sense. No one is going to drive to Tallahassee two times and THEN expect payment. And he's a coward for letting Dan's parents suffer like he did.
@@Jahlen.johnsonright!! I agree.. & why would he put cameras up & be paranoid with a gun ? Definitely not for the cops , he had to have been really scared or someone..
@@lifewithdri excellent pint!! It doesn’t add up
That fact that he keeps saying "what happened to ME, what happened to ME"...not what happened to Dan. Dude, a man literally died and all you think about is yourself.
Typical narcissist!
What makes his defense unbelievable is not going to the cops to begin with 😅
I hope the jurors are bright individuals who are able to use critical thinking skills.
This defense is absurd.
Scared for his life..but doesn't call the police..doesn't add up.
Simple...as..that.
If you know who the Latin kings are you KNOW the cops ain’t no kinda leverage for being scared… going to them is like signing a death waiver. These Latin kings do not play!!!! Period !
Charlie's appeal is that Rashbaum is a Latin king who's extorted him all through trial
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😂
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That's sounds more believable then this absurd tale he's trying to spin now
@@Joseph-fw6xx Sad think is they will have to keep up the story because of the cheques that Donna wrote. She'll be ready for trial about Dec of 25.. this grinds slowly on but it grinds finely...
the math ain’t mathN here… the day Dan was murdered.. Katy comes to Charlie’s house to notify him she is the one orchestrated the entire thing .. Charlie pops a xanax and allows Katy to sleep in his bed the same night. Yeah that right there just doesn’t make sense imo
It’s actually laughable !!😅
Who does that ??? 🤔
I want to see the ones involved in prison back on the stand to quash this bs
They already took the stand a few days ago. It was interesting to say the least.
LOCK CHARLIE UP WITH TATO & TUTO
If I was him (and innocent), and was worried about talking to police, it wouldn’t only be because I’m afraid of people coming after me. It would be because I’d be afraid of being blamed for hiring a hitman.
Right! His reasoning is so weird. I wouldn’t want to be implicated in a murder if I was innocent, but if I was innocent there wouldn’t be any evidence!
So when they write the script it will be called 'The Godmother'
@@Jahlen.johnson the money was stapled together and another gf noticed that as well
@@Jahlen.johnson yes I'm watching it. I think he is lying. I'm sure Katie is lying too.
@@Jahlen.johnson oh yes. I wouldn't argue with someone who has a different opinion. I find all the different comments are very interesting
So, Katie hears he’ll pay $300k to unalive Dan. She remembers all kinds of details like his last name (I swear my wife’s brother doesn’t know my last name as me, and we love each other). She’s able to figure out his address. Then she’s able to know (from hundreds of miles away) when he’ll be home and she sicks the killers on him. She is a genius
😂 Ole Chuckie’s goose is cooked ! But he had a year to rehearse this far fetched story
...which goes back to the age old question - who phoned through the intended itinerary of Dan to Katie or Charlie ??
Maybe someone at the airport where he did is booking to fly to NY was jealous of his frequent flier miles and had him killed... Rashbaum Esq needs to run with this theory... quick .. where's my phone ??
😅OMG…… if one juror believes that fuzz head Chuckie…… they are truly delusional 😈🤡😈🤡😈🤡😈🤡😈🤡😈
Let’s be clear Chuckie….. you didn’t get dragged into anything!!!! You and your nosey mousy Mommie did this to Dan. Your Mom better be indicted soon too or she just got away with premeditated 1st degree murder!!!! This is the case of the spoiled children ALWAYS getting what they wanted or needed on a silver platter and it is disgusting!!!
That's what I thought. The million dollars was offered after Dan was unalive right?
He let her walk out with $138 thousand dollar just like that??? That’s crazy..!!!
I can’t wait till tomorrow when Georgia the pit bull takes on Charlie, she’s been wanting to get at him for a long time. So glad it’s Friday cause I’m coming home from work getting comfy and watching this masterpiece 😂
Georgia the PitBull😭😂
Chuck is the only person in the world that gets extorted after the dirty deed is done. Come on defense, you might as well claim Chuck killed Dan because his mom demanded he do it. Oh wait, she did.
Literally, the only person in the history of time that gets extorted in this manner 😅
He definitely looks like a Chuck 😂
This defense attorney so skilled at redirected/leading witness to current t answer without using leading questions. If Charlie answers incorrectly he asks again, slightly different and uses emphasis and tone as hints. It’s brilliant.
You mean like “Ladin Kings”😂?
Well after the whole direct did think harmful went over almost everything sentence to give reason to counter what state out on in evidence but it made it glaring, to me, how ridiculous explanations were and how rehearsed.
Actually, it's obvious and thereby ineffective.
@@michellestlicitra9105Aladdin kings 😆 that’s what Aladdin turns into after he’s Prince Ali
Judge Everett and Rashbaum have a bromance going on 😂
They do! But I think the jokes and laughs are a bit much for a murder trial. The victims are n the audience.
I’ve only seen his testimony, not the rest of the trial, but why again would his GF saying she knew who murdered his BIL cause him to hand her $138,000 instead of them both getting on the phone to tell the cops who to pick up for questioning?
Because she (Katie) is in on it with her druggie baby daddy & his gang friend who killed the BIL & she told him they would kill him if he went to the cops & most gang members have ‘family’ that would take care of that even if the killers are in jail, so she was playing on his fears.
Because that's not what happened, or what normal people would do 😅 its a fair excuse, though, if you had to make up something.
Charlie says he thought the "bump" was the police (I doubt it) but he was so scared he couldn't go to the police so he asked Katie "Is this you guys?" and she said "Yes!" When it was the police? What a buffoon!
I think he felt fairly confident it was the police but wasn’t sure.
I never knew Michael Scott was a lawyer too😂
1:02:50
Look at the way he blinks and looks right here...EXAAAAACTLY like Wendi!
What a bunch of liars!
This defendant’s “explanation” of what happened is side-splitting hilarious!
especially since the police, not the 'extortionists' kept bumping Donna to roll these fools into more contact. It's a hoot! Horrible liar.
I really was starting to wonder if Wendi arranged the murder and set her brother up but after his testimony today I am confident he arranged the murder. Wendi was in on it too.
Wendi threw her brother under the bus when she told investigators about the joke her brother told (I decided to get you a TV instead of a hit man to kill your ex husband). This was a private joke between the two of them and had it not been for that joke; I doubt the prosecutors would have looked at her brother that closely from the beginning. So from the very beginning Wendi pointed the finger at him.
Why he's still willing back Wendi I'll never know. Wendi has manipulation down to a fine art.
Wouldn't help him to turn on his sister.
Prof laCasse brought up CJA independently as a potential suspect .
BTW by having haphazard email deletion skills , old Wendi set Mom up to take a fall. That one evil email ex Donna , which has featured in this trial was found through Wendi's IT. She should have immediately shut down all her old eml accounts because people like Gmail will purge old gmail accounts in a hard delete once the account is shut down and dormant.
@@Jahlen.johnsonis anyone would believe Charlie was “set up” has ZERO common sense!!
@JahlenJohnson11
You need to ACTUALLY listen to this guy...
He's nothing more than a psychopath who's bumping his gums! He's great at telling stories, and that's all this is.
He planned it, and now he's trying to get out of it!
I agree
These hitmen are so sweet offering a payment plan! 💕
Clearly the parents now have been outed as “accessories after the fact” by hiding the identity of the killers. Right???
I think that will be the least of their concerns. My guess is Donna will be the next one indicted. Not for accessory after the fact though. Same charges as Charlie.
@@maryb6672 I hope so.
@@johnqpublic5350 Me too. In my opinion, Donna was the by far the most responsible for this murder. I could be wrong but my impression is that Charlie didn’t care nearly enough about Wendi to spend this kind of $ & commit a capital offense. BUT for the fact that he was nearly obsessed w/having mommy’s approval & making her happy. Like I said, I could be wrong. But I think Donna is the #1 reason Dan Markel is dead.
He talks to his dad about extorsion in the sushi bar but only tells him outside about the murder?????? Hard to believe dad did not ask why he is getting extorted right there and then.
Rehearsal testimony, not believable, boring testimony, the whole family was involved and I hope they all go to jail. Poor the children. May God protect them and Mrs. Market and get justice.
Oh God that lady doesn't look normal neither she is planning to send the poor kids to a foster place and she will not take care of them
@@beavoicenotanecho8590The grandma? I’ve seen many interviews with her. She’s very normal.
@@beavoicenotanecho8590No she wasn’t at all planning to do that with her grandchildren. They live in Canada. She quite understandably wanted to make sure the children were in a safe place IF this family were arrested for her son’s murder, temporarily, while they had time to travel to collect them, and then take care of them. You must have missed this very important FACT stated many times. Wendi had alleged this, but it’s simply not true. They wanted to ensure the children were safe, that is all.
She seems very normal to me… however the Adelsons are anything but normal. Extremely toxic, dysfunctional and just plain weird. It’s a shame this bunch are raising those kids now. At some point, they will start to put the pieces of this together on their own.
I was really hoping Sigfredo would testify against Chia Pet Charlie 😂
I could not wait to get home after watching Charlie’s testimony to make some comments! First of all, why was there never any mention of the first extortion on any of the tapped calls between any one? If Donna and Charlie truly had no involvement in the murder of Dan Markel, then why were they so worried about the bump? Also, are we supposed to believe that two young Hispanic gang bangers randomly decided, on their own, to go to Tallahassee and kill Dan Markel, who had no connection to any of them, except through Catherine Magbanua and her relationship with Charlie. I cannot wait for Georgia Cappleman to cross examine Charlie tomorrow! I hope she rips his testimony to shreds!
Exactly!
Yes!
I agree and...and how did the killers know Dan's schedule the day of the murder??? Ridiculous to think the family was not involved!!
@graciemay899 The checks might mean that Harvey really didn't know they did this. That was a way for Donna to help w the payment without Harvey seeing a big sum of money leaving his account. She wouldn't talk to Charlie til she got out of the car at a rest stop & she was with Harvey. My mom kept so much from my Dad too growing up & scared us that if he knew he'd have a heart attack & that was just the norm to leave Dad out of the loop. It feels like it's the same dynamic here. She washed his stapled money & secretly gave it to him as clueless Harvey remains clueless. Then her contribution was the checks. I may be totally wrong but it just feel like it was done without him.
Lawyer: i saw you got a little emotional there…
He did. WOW he’s super sensitive to emotions.
Dan’s blinking rate was high anxiety rate.
Dan's?
@@MrTeeglesworth i meant charlie
If **I** were ever in a bad jam, THIS defense attorney would be my FIRST choice! His preemption of _every single_ argument the State is gonna try to make shows the most impressive forethought I’ve seen from any other defense attorney, and this AIN’T no small task. 😮💨👌
Absolutely agree, he's very impressive.
Especially with the prosecutions tricks of using half truths, innuendos and jokes to make him look like a sinister mastermind
Agreed!
There are so many blatant and nonsensical things that incriminate him and point to his guilt, though. So, any half decent attorney should be able to pre-emptively answer the States questions.
@@ALH626 I don’t know how many trials you’ve seen, but no “half decent attorney” could’ve done NEAR the job this guy did with all that evidence on his face. This guy did more than almost any other could’ve done, hence the plaudits.
@@marythomas1198 See my last comment-same response.
Oh so the killers killed DM not to threaten frame Charlie but extort Charlie with death threats. Why did then even go all way Tallahassee to kill Dan? Could just threaten Charlie. Not logical. It’s over Adelson.
How is it that people go through years of law school, works long hours to make a name for themselves, open their own law practice, then decide to defend a criminal with this joke of a defense is shameful. This case is a circus. Charlie and his attorneys are clowns 🤡
Doesn't matter if he wins or loses, the notoriety this case has brought his lawyer cannot be matched otherwise.
Thankfully our constitutional.rights say that we all have the right to be repreaented by an attorney.
@@TheVAULTofHORROR I think that Rashbaum would have a stressed induced early death if he kept taking on murder cases of this complexity - and this is his first one. He need s to chill and stay with W collar crime defense and go yachting on the weekends. Way to go Dan.. don't let yr partners overwork y'all.
Because private criminal defense attorneys make a lot of money. He once was an Assistant U. S. Attorney for the southern district of Florida.....a prosecutor who tried dozens of cases all resulting in convictions. He is no slouch.
The money is in defending big cases, win or lose.
Why would they not call the police??
Why have defense attorneys stopped defending actual innocent people and started twisting and dementing facts to try and get guilty people off?
This is not what having a defense is supposed to be. So many defense attorneys want the win so bad they don’t care who is released into society.
They get paid either way. Their job is to make sure that the prosecution is following laws and not just running over the accused in court. They aren’t meant to look for any plausible theory to manipulate the jury. It’s gross to me.
I was on Charlie's side because first-degree murder is serious but when he testified Magbanua confessed about it being her fault and she knew who did it and was so sorry that was the end for me.
Is this trial the first time you'd heard of this murder, the bump etc.?
I'm just interested to see if no prior knowledge of this has come into play of ppl thinking Charlie was innocent before his testimony.
@@wilsal2485 No, not at all. Shouldn't have said I was "on his side" because I know nothing about him but I watched all of Magbanua's trial. I try not to assume anything when life w/o is on the table. There are people that think Wendi and Donna are guilty and maybe they are but that's what trials are for.
@@sunnyann7Thanks for answering :)
I prefer to go into trials thinking someone's innocent but I couldn't this time because of the other trials & even the media.
@@wilsal2485 I agree, especially knowing Sigfredo and Luis were guilty no question and there was an obvious link. I also like to see if there's any wiggle room for the jury to acquit for lack of evidence. And it took so long for Charlie to be arrested so...
Yeah it's just a really ridiculous story. They should of come up with something more plausible.
Why do they even bother to swear a defendant in.......if they are guilty they will be lying through their teeth to save their butts. They will NEVER be charged for perjury anyway.
The Adelson family are so diabolical.
Justice for Dan, his family and his boys.
Why they take the oath when they keep lying lol 😝
I can’t wait for cross. This man is lying through his teeth.
I don’t think a small child would find Charlie Adelson’s story plausible.
2 issues I've found having listened to only half of this so far -
#1 Charlie used the word MURDERED with Katie before he was told that Dan had died from his injuries.
#2 When asked why he was being tough regarding having a dead Latin king in his driveway, Charlie said because they were messing with his mom and him. He did not say because they took the life of my nephew's dad! My brother in law! My sisters husband!
I'm poking my own holes in his testimony lol
Don't quit your day job
Did you hear him say wendi called Katie? Huh? I thought wendi " supposedly didn't know anything ,so why call Katie? I have to find the timestamp..but you are right! Good catch
What did this Educated Dentist want with this women and kids from a gang for what did he want with someone who is this women and her baggage
Imagine waiting ages to have full on implant surgery, doing your research, saving up, going on a waiting list only for your surgery date to arrive to be told your surgery is cancelled because your surgeon has been arrested for murder 😂
I thought he didnt understand Katie when she was talking in code😮..he understood perfectly..he is guilty..i hope the jury sees thru his lies🤮
What? Planning going out with Katie but when plan changed to just come over had to frantically find baby sitter? And parents text “outside your house” but that doesn’t mean they are? 🤣
Why are the kids always with grandparents??😮 Apparently they wanted custody not Wendi..this is crazy to me😮
Charlie's version=Life, no parole
Doesn't seem like Sigfredo would say "a third of a million dollars"😐. And why would they kill Dan and not Charlie or any of his family members since the "extortioners" new the Adelson's had money?
Good point
Yep, he would've said "333," meaning $333,000. That's how those gang members talk.
Also if they knew the family had 1M don’t you think they’d go after that not a third.
100%! And in reality, who would say I want a third of a million dollars? Ridiculous!
Come on man...
Charlie is going to prison. He has no idea how bad his life is going to be in there. Throwing around gang names and calling out gangs like Latin Kings, Charlie has no idea, NO IDEA how bad his life is going to be. And he has his mommy to thank.
And himself to thank.
Charlie testified that Wendi was "not a drinker." A non-drinker would not order a martini with "3 shots."
Oh dear. The ridiculousness of this. If only Charlie could play this back at his new digs in North Dakota! RIP Dan.
Charlie reminds me of Larry from The Three Stoogies.
Or Harry from the wet bandits from the "Home Alone" movies. 😂
Charlie looks like a fool.
Is a fool.
The defense should have prepared him for tomorrow - it's gonna be brutal from the prosecution!
Just for the record, Sammy the undercover cop is the worst fake gang member I've ever heard in my life. At least try to sound slightly authentic. That aside, the "bump" was an amazing strategy 👏
I agree any reputable gangster would have said 'hey lady' 😂
Charlie is way too calm, especially while testifying about when Katie informed him that she knew who killed Dan and that Charlie was going to be extorted. It would have been at least a little more believable if he showed some emotion on the stand - fear, anger or whatever he claimed he felt that night. He speaks in such a matter-of-fact manner, like he’s talking to one of his patients about a procedure he’s going to perform.
If know if i were innocent I wouldn't sitting there so calm
@@CarolynYanikSame *EXACT* thing I said. It's obvious he rehearsed and memorized that script to a tee. The only thing with that is it *DOES* come across like a *well-rehersed script* and *not the truth!*
😂 @ the defense attorney's 'shocked voice' when good ol' Charlie is saying that Katy confessed to him as having 'said too much'. I hope these jurors are astute and not gullible for that ridiculousness. TM 54:10 or so.
Charlie was thinking once he finally got on the stand the jury would fall in Love with him.
He thought the judge and all court personnel would fall under his spell and be enamored by his wit and command .
Georgia Cappleman took no time to chip away at Charlie’s Facade and reduce him to the arrogant, entitled Mamma’s boy he was.
Charlie’s lay a way installment plan Extortion defense was laughable to the jury.
With his conviction everyone was glad for the Justice for Professor Dan Markel and his loved one’s.
Charlie still thinks hes the mistro.
Why do I hear the 🎵theme music🎵 from the movie Rocky, when he’s running 🏃🏻♂️up the steps, playing in the background when I think of Georgia’s cross examination of Charlie tomorrow?!?
🔔 Ding! 🥊 Ding! 🥊 🔔
wait what, is he on with his lawyer all day?
He’s such a liar. And not even a good one. He’s making half of it up as he goes.
Defense attorney is killing me how robotic he sounds when he asks Charlie a question.
4:21:30 so sad for her. I pray she finds some comfort knowing they are going down one by one 🥺😢
“I saw you get emotional there”…. Um where?
Shouldn’t the defense be calling mom to testify for corroborate?
She is probably next to be arrested. I think they still have her under surveillance.
@@truthsleuth7779 Agree
I was really hoping Sigfredo would testify against Chia pet Charlie 😂
Mommy & daddy told the defense and prosecutor that they would plead the 5th on the stand if they were called to testify. Isn't that what "innocent" people do? LMAO!
@@truthsleuth7779you were spot on, hopefully they go for Wendi after they are done with the mom
Katie didnt give two fs if he was cheating. She was about money.
His story is SO bad, completely unbelievable, and makes no sense whatsoever! Yeah, okay ...how many people are going to kill someone and not demand any payment up front? Get real! Also, extortionists do let their victims pay over time with personal checks! Get real. Common sense.
He has had over a year in jail to think of something and this is the best he could make up?
Exactly!! And according to Charlie’s “story” Katie convinced these guys to go ahead and kill a total stranger because she knows a rich guy that MIGHT pay them if they threaten him!!?? I mean come on! 🙄
Yep and how did they know who brother in law was, where he lived and his movements.
It shows how mediocre he is. And the fact his parents get to basically raise Dan and Wendi’s boys, when Charlie and Wendi turned out to be such lying narcissists, is infuriating
1:15:21 - 😮Did his lawyer forget himself by nearly getting his client to admit to murder. Lucky for him Charlie was on the ball with his lie 😂😂😂
His lawyer is a fool why he hired this guy I don't know I'm sure there is much better lawyers in Florida
Lawyer is merely expressing what the prosecution might say - playing devil's advocate.
There are 15 salads on Matsuri's menu!! I just looked. LOL
Prime example of
Why ppl should discipline their children during the ages of
5 - 18 yrs of age
Listening to this guy trying to explain himself outta a situation he ( himself) has created is absolutely unbelievable and comical 😂😂😂😂😂😂
The part about Jimmy Hoffa
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Too funny !!
Who’s going to believe that Charlie isn’t guilty
Who’s going to believe
Donna isn’t Guilty
Who’s going to believe Wendy isn’t guilty- only a fool would believe these ppl aren’t guilty!
6:16:55 lil bro really thought he was going pro in go kart racing 🤣🤣🤣 too bad they don’t have go kart racing in prison 😭
How ironic, he’s scared and worried about himself or family being killed. 😡
FYI I wouldn't want someone that blinks so much to be doing ANY kind of surgery on me!!!!
On the recorded calls between Katy and Charlie. Charlie kept saying he had no idea who Tuto was which is a lie according to Charlie
4:04:14 I wish I could’ve seen the prosecution’s face right here haha
Liar Liar Pants on Fire
Why hasn’t anyone asked him WHY he’s so comfortable believing the bump is the police… hasnt he been hiding from them for almost 2 years at the his point, but he’s all comfy if the police are extorting him? Please make this make sense.
Rushbaum did ask him, he said he knew his family wasn’t in danger if it was a cop undercover thing. He was relieved.
If it’s a real threat, smart to go to the cops. If it’s the cops, smart to go to the cops.
Aw come on. Everyone knows.Donna is the head of the Latin Kings.
Why was a rich dentist dating the ex of a gang member? Sounds odd to me! Did I miss something😮
he needs women who are down for anything
Lying that much under oath, wow! Hopefully the jury sees it though.