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  • @supermakena6037
    @supermakena6037 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    Nintendo could be called stealing to fan games, but Nintendo can be taking inspiration, and that’s basically like making there fan base part of the community

  • @joeyjose727
    @joeyjose727 ปีที่แล้ว +109

    Nintendo is definitely shady and petty but I’m guessing the reason they DMCA’d the Mario Royale game is that they were already planning Mario 35

    • @dynastylobster8957
      @dynastylobster8957 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      not to mention a mario battle royalle was a trendy idea anyways

    • @Drago_Cuven
      @Drago_Cuven ปีที่แล้ว +1

      still exists

    • @nathanlevesque7812
      @nathanlevesque7812 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It would have taken a month to make. If they were planning it then they were sitting on their hands for a long time.

    • @tastyfalcon1788
      @tastyfalcon1788 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@nathanlevesque7812 Nintendo has actually been known to do that

    • @MU5KETEER
      @MU5KETEER ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@nathanlevesque7812 do you know how anniversaries work?

  • @Smokey_2603
    @Smokey_2603 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    fans: *exist*
    Nintendo: and i took that personally

  • @INikeAir
    @INikeAir ปีที่แล้ว +72

    I truly didn’t know this information, and I’ve been keeping up with everything Nintendo for years! They should definitely come forward with this, put some humility in their fanboys. Lol. Amazing video!

  • @yoshinski2745
    @yoshinski2745 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Just got this channel recommended, that's some underrated stuff!

  • @DauntlessBlade___
    @DauntlessBlade___ ปีที่แล้ว +46

    I love how dramatic the videos you make are, It really captures me and sets the mood. 100K subs soon 👀

    • @Siiroth
      @Siiroth  ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Glad you enjoyed! Hope so haha

    • @wubbers662
      @wubbers662 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It makes them clickbait though (thumbnails I am referring to)

    • @ivanperalta2523
      @ivanperalta2523 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Siiroth what is up with the thumbnail changes on this video

    • @mariajimenafigueroa233
      @mariajimenafigueroa233 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@wubbers662 Agree, not everything needs to sound dramatic, it makes a lot of moments sound exaggerated.

  • @brawlman644
    @brawlman644 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    About the Mario and Peach age gap joke... Peach is not 16 and Mario is not 35, Nintendo has stated that they are both roughly the same age (somewhere around 25 years old, the exact age was not given). The reason searching Peach's age gives you 16 as an answer is because that is how long ago the game Super Princess Peach released.

  • @Sp3ctralI
    @Sp3ctralI ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Kind of scummy.
    Sure copyright exist.
    But couldn’t they instead decide to…you know, hire those creative creators?

  • @silverwalker2934
    @silverwalker2934 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Actually about this. The creator of mario royal changed everything the assets the levels the music. He called it DMCA Royal. Nintendo sent him another DMCA Take Down. And my question is for what? Do you own the platformer genre in an 8 bit format nintendo? No

    • @wubbers662
      @wubbers662 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      They reinstated it I heard

    • @bryanlariviere5702
      @bryanlariviere5702 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Nintendo is big and like to throw their weight around. If they feel they can take someone down they will. Nintendo is shady.

    • @nathanlevesque7812
      @nathanlevesque7812 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's still distribution of a carbon copy? To be clear, free mods are not unlawful at all. Providing a mod and providing a modded game are not the same thing.

    • @emersonjr4866
      @emersonjr4866 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@nathanlevesque7812 no It's not lmao

    • @jerricaleonard2123
      @jerricaleonard2123 ปีที่แล้ว

      I guess they thought the new name was mocking them, so they retaliated for that.

  • @wubbers662
    @wubbers662 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    Ok, for the last one with Donkey Kong, the company may have put the code on the cabinet, but Nintendo still made the code, they just reversed engineered it for those cabinets

    • @bryanlariviere5702
      @bryanlariviere5702 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      No, nintendo didn't write the code.

    • @nathanlevesque7812
      @nathanlevesque7812 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ikegami Tsushinki programmed the game and developed the boards, not Nintendo.

    • @wubbers662
      @wubbers662 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@bryanlariviere5702 I know

  • @cursix3389
    @cursix3389 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    May be their property but I feel they do owe compensation to the ones who created the new idea. Don't steal, just "ask nicely" to take down then work to make it more 'official'.

  • @Liggliluff
    @Liggliluff ปีที่แล้ว +4

    It would be horrible if you could own the copyright of the idea of "many players playing at the same time in game X" and "a remake of game X". Nintendo shouldn't be considered stealing these ideas, because these ideas are so broad and generic that these could easily be made up independently.

  • @wyawarD9677
    @wyawarD9677 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    honestly, if Mr. Miyamoto really did that Argonaut Games, i respect his hustle. like, "hey remember that idea you pitched to us? yeah that's OUR idea now. smell ya later SUCKERS!"

  • @XionSteel
    @XionSteel ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Not really trying to defend anything even though this sounds like it, but Nintendo only really goes after things that are trying to monetize using their IPs, use their ips for nefarious purposes (scams, illegal activity, etc), or else go after things that resembles something that are planning to release in the future. Happened to the metroid fan game, happened to smash bros, happened to Mario royal.
    You'd actually be surprised on how many things actually infringe on Nintendo's IPs that they are fully aware exists, but choose not to do anything since they dont fall into any of the above categories and wont affect them financially. In a way you can kind of use this as a way to guage what Nintendo is working on.
    That said, they are pretty scummy in how they do get things removed, usually waiting until its almost complete and then pulling the rug out, wasting countless days/weeks/months/year of work. A lot of the time the timing looks very suspicious but they are working on quite a bit, just the jp mentality to never leak things before they are released makes it worse then it seems. ;/

    • @emersonjr4866
      @emersonjr4866 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I didn't see any Mario fangames that do that, besides most of Mario fan games are gone, so your point is kinda bad ngl

    • @emersonjr4866
      @emersonjr4866 ปีที่แล้ว

      @CONTACT ME ON TELEGRAM👉Siiroth shut up Mario

  • @M0Bk
    @M0Bk ปีที่แล้ว +8

    You got Square Enix to sponsor a Nintendo video lol

  • @El_Mince
    @El_Mince ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Remember, if Nintendo takes this down, all of these allegations are true

  • @Liggliluff
    @Liggliluff ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Isn't it funny though how people are calling out Nintendo for "stealing the idea" from a fan game, a fan game that was already stealing the IP from Nintendo.

  • @matthewlasalvia7026
    @matthewlasalvia7026 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Still not as bad as the shit Activision Blizzard and Ubisoft have been covering up!

  • @mrNECROMON
    @mrNECROMON ปีที่แล้ว +24

    Tbh for things like this I've been loosing all my love for Nintendo in the recent years
    I hate this trend of absolute disrespect to the fans and greedy/,lazy decisions

    • @the-angel-of-light-gardevoir8
      @the-angel-of-light-gardevoir8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      It’s mostly just the greed of the excecutives that’s the problem which is unfortunate

  • @a-bomb7779
    @a-bomb7779 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    They say Donkey Kong was originally supposed to be a Popeye game, and to this day the plot of Mario games is the plot of a Popeye cartoon :
    Mario (Popeye) and Bowser (Bluto) fighting over Peach (Olive Oyl)

    • @Winter_lights
      @Winter_lights ปีที่แล้ว +1

      So had that cartoon not exist, Nintendo would've been so different, or not even a thing at all

  • @bubbabeast7862
    @bubbabeast7862 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I think nintendo, or at least game freak, canceled Pixelmon for a bit and then a couple years later released that weird block one on the switch and phone, some Pixelmator servers are still up though so I don't know

    • @kamenanew9867
      @kamenanew9867 ปีที่แล้ว

      That's pretty much exactly what happened they relwased I think it's called Pokemon quest or sumthin, tho now you can still find Pixelmon and various variations. And at least the legit pokegame was free.

  • @jonathanalvarez-lopez432
    @jonathanalvarez-lopez432 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It's been few months that I asked you a question about making a video of all missing songs in Super Smash Brothers from N64 through 3DS & Wii U. (64, Melee, Brawl, 3DS & Wii U)

  • @the-angel-of-light-gardevoir8
    @the-angel-of-light-gardevoir8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This can mostly be explained by simply that unfortunately companies tend to be blindsided by money, money is a *drug* and it corrupts most people

  • @mikedonofrio43
    @mikedonofrio43 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nintendo when you pirate a 1999999 year old game: ok we give u nightmares for ever

  • @KLGB76
    @KLGB76 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I will forever miss Super Mario Bros. 35

  • @wantedasylum1091
    @wantedasylum1091 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    In short: Nintendo is the alpha male of the gaming industry, and they will dismiss anything that comes their way. But the internet never forgets what they did.

  • @darkdoctor1915
    @darkdoctor1915 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I love the Donkey Kong part

  • @pendranomechannel6786
    @pendranomechannel6786 ปีที่แล้ว

    What’s the music at the beginning of the video?

  • @jupitersky
    @jupitersky ปีที่แล้ว +1

    "The Allegations Nintendo Tried to Cover Up"
    Me: Which ones?

  • @damoonguy3743
    @damoonguy3743 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    You forget that the entire idea of the switch isn't Nintendo's. I remember seeing somewhere that the idea came from sega in the 90s, but when I actually looked for it, I instead found the Watara Supervision, which could connect to a tv using a link cable, and was created in 1992. There was also the Neo Geo X, which had a docking port to connect to the tv as well, and came out in 2012, during the awful Wii U phase of Nintendo. The switch was in 2017. The point is, it's pointless to say that the switch is innovative, or that Nintendo came up with the idea. No matter how much they pretend it's their own invention, it's been done before. Plus, I don't think it would take 30 years for someone to have the bright idea of a handheld game system being able to plug into a tv so you can play on it, that would be outright ridiculous. PEOPLE HAVE AN IMAGINATION.

  • @Reanimga
    @Reanimga ปีที่แล้ว

    also, Mario Royale is already back up, which seems to have happened after Nintendo took down Mario 35

  • @plasticsoya
    @plasticsoya ปีที่แล้ว

    11:14 Peach is not 15 years old, i believe that is the age of one of Peach's games. Not the character.

  • @GALAXY04
    @GALAXY04 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Metroid one caught Nintendo on 4k

  • @nathanlevesque7812
    @nathanlevesque7812 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Just to be clear, Nintendo does not have any legal right to take down free mods. They do not get to tell people what to do with things after purchase. Anybody can modify what they personally own. Only distributing unapproved copies or unapproved commercial use is unlawful. If the Mario Royale thing was just a way to modify a copy of the original game that would have been fine. It was a browser game so they were providing unapproved copies (that are also modded), not mods themselves.

  • @PK-Radio
    @PK-Radio ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Nintendo took down a great game and then they made a lame version of it

  • @haleyhersh3850
    @haleyhersh3850 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Peach is not 16 years old. It’s actually the game “Super Princess Peach” game that’s old.
    So Peach could probably be in her mid twenties or early thirties

  • @mohamedmukassabi6749
    @mohamedmukassabi6749 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Also, Nintendo only shuts down fan games that are remakes or uses the same level/levels from one of their games. That was why Mario Royale, DMCA Royale, AM2R, and Super Mario 64 HD were taken down and not games like Super Mario Bros. X, Super Mario Flashback, and Super Smash Flash.

    • @Oturan20
      @Oturan20 ปีที่แล้ว

      and of course the legendary Super Mario Crossover.

    • @mohamedmukassabi6749
      @mohamedmukassabi6749 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Oturan20 Speaking of SMB Crossover, they copied the original Super Mario Bros. for the NES along with the Lost Levels and Special Versions for Japan and South Korea, yet Nintendo let them get away with it. Lucky spiffs.

    • @Oturan20
      @Oturan20 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@mohamedmukassabi6749 Before the death of Flash, the 3rd version had practically every character from the big names, and more! You could even use the Konami Code to unlock all the cheats. Having water physics everywhere makes it weird and the bouncy pits. I unfortunately can't remember the exact route to take in 8-4.

    • @mohamedmukassabi6749
      @mohamedmukassabi6749 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Oturan20 I don't use the cheat code. I just beat the game normaly and used warp zone shortcuts.

  • @robbiewalker2831
    @robbiewalker2831 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    2:38: Finally, someone agrees with me on this. I know of another fangame they didn’t take down: Mario Forever, which also has a level editor type thing called Mario Worker, which came out long before Super Mario Maker. If Nintendo took down Mario Forever and Mario Worker, people would flip out when Nintendo was found out about taking down an old popular fangame, just to make their own level editor type game. Besides, Nintendo mostly goes against fangames made for profit.

    • @battlefora3dscollab
      @battlefora3dscollab ปีที่แล้ว

      Wait so you're saying as long as you make a non-profit Nintendo fan game, Nintendo won't bother?

    • @wubbers662
      @wubbers662 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@battlefora3dscollab Yes, and don't make a huge deal of it on social media

    • @jerricaleonard2123
      @jerricaleonard2123 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@battlefora3dscollab Except a lot of the games weren't for profit.

  • @YMangaka
    @YMangaka ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I feel like if they could take down fan characters as well, they would have probably made their own Bowsette by now, concidering how crazy popular the character got on the japanese Twitter only *a few HOURS* after its creation.

    • @YMangaka
      @YMangaka ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mariajimenafigueroa233 XD lol
      Yea. Like THAT ever was a problem in all the rule34 Nintendo fanart stuff History.. Xp
      Seriously though..
      Even if they tried, they would never reach anything : Nintendo didnt make the nsfw fan-character (thats why it's called a *fan-character* )..
      They made zerosuit Samus skin-tight suit, and Camilla (from fire emblem)'s cleavage, and dawn (from pokémon)'s pantyshots..

    • @mariajimenafigueroa233
      @mariajimenafigueroa233 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@YMangaka1) She started out as fanart and 99% of it was NSFW drawnings, it's self explanatory that Garbagesette isen't going to be canon. 2) Are you telling me that it's okay for a fan-character to be mostly popular with NSFW drawnings because every characters has it? Because that's just a bad moral. You can't overly sexualized a female character before she's even confirmed.

    • @YMangaka
      @YMangaka ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mariajimenafigueroa233 1) being fanart doesnt make it canon for Nintendo to be sued for. And have you ever heard of what rule34 is about ? How is it a surprise for a popular female character to get nsfw fanarts ??
      2) for reminder, she became wildly popular on the japanese twitter as soon as she got created BEFORE she even got her first nsfw fanart done ! Could you name only one official Nintendo character who got such a quick pick in popularity without counting any nsfw stuff ??
      Also "you cant over sexualized a female character before she's even confirmed"
      1) says who ? Surely not every rule34 artists who managed to make nsfw of characters they barely catch a glimpse of from trailers or beta games !
      2) "you cant" is only a technical reality. If rule34 artists could get a sight of any female character so they could draw nsfw of her before she got confirmed, TRUST ME they would !

  • @shadow_crimson1
    @shadow_crimson1 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    oh damn, Nintendo isn't looking good

  • @MeesterTweester
    @MeesterTweester ปีที่แล้ว +2

    rip Super Mario Bros. 35

  • @legoman2859
    @legoman2859 ปีที่แล้ว

    Man I didn't know nintendo could be so arrogant

  • @nu_uh1
    @nu_uh1 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    YAY NEW UPLOAD

  • @andrewtalley7015
    @andrewtalley7015 ปีที่แล้ว

    the yoshi file is yoshi on top of the castle. he gives you 100 lives

  • @AzzenleBoyjay
    @AzzenleBoyjay ปีที่แล้ว +2

    "Thats it im switching to SEGA"
    jk ive been with sega and Nintendo but hearing all of this just makes me wonder.
    Should consle wars have a a Second battle?

  • @YesAmFrienD
    @YesAmFrienD ปีที่แล้ว

    I’ve only watched about 10 minutes of the video, but I need to comment this before I forget it in case it isn’t mentioned. The Mario Kart 8 Deluxe DLC is basically just an official CTGP, but to my knowledge they haven’t taken down any CTGP mods, who’s to say they won’t

  • @Drago_Cuven
    @Drago_Cuven ปีที่แล้ว

    the truth is that mario fangame that got taken down is still active to this day, just via a different site and name. i was just playing it.

  • @christopheredwards788
    @christopheredwards788 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    These news are incredible

  • @mohamedmukassabi6749
    @mohamedmukassabi6749 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Siiroth: The Donkey Kong Arcade code was mainly made by Ikegami and most of the DK Junior code was based on the original Donkey Kong without permission.
    Me: I did not see this coming.
    Ikegami: (to Nintendo) One day, you will have to answer for your actions,... *AND GOD... WILL NOT BE SO MERCIFUL!!!*

  • @legospiderman754
    @legospiderman754 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nintendo: let's banned Mario 35 after Nintendo: let's make new pacman game let's make like the same Mario 35 but pacman

  • @aaronodonnell1924
    @aaronodonnell1924 ปีที่แล้ว

    BOTW, Odyssey, and Octopath. Yes, all of these games pioneered the Switch LMAO!!!!

  • @bsg-jay7093
    @bsg-jay7093 ปีที่แล้ว

    8:57 that's literally the worst clip you could have picked...

  • @mismagiusthemagicuser2341
    @mismagiusthemagicuser2341 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    There we go
    That’s what I was looking for

  • @sirejonesk591
    @sirejonesk591 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    13:14 what anime is this

  • @rainbowspongebob
    @rainbowspongebob ปีที่แล้ว

    Who cares if Mario 64 didn’t have the 3D plaftformer idea first.

  • @tyrusward4397
    @tyrusward4397 ปีที่แล้ว

    I kind of find the 10 years as a lie

  • @ProtonTheProtogen
    @ProtonTheProtogen ปีที่แล้ว

    The Genshin Impact BoTW comparison would not be accurate because Genshin came out in 2020 BoTW came 3 years before it

  • @Flintstix
    @Flintstix ปีที่แล้ว

    They are like disney but with games.

  • @skeletonmemelord7779
    @skeletonmemelord7779 ปีที่แล้ว

    i wouldn't be surprised if any of this was actually true. if anything this would end up adding a heavy layer of irony to their DMCA bullshit

  • @AdmiralElectrifyingOwl
    @AdmiralElectrifyingOwl ปีที่แล้ว +1

    TH-cam gave me an ad right after the sponsorship was over lol.

  • @darkrai7835
    @darkrai7835 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nintendo is like any other big business. Of course they're gonna do things like this.

  • @psychotheunsane4542
    @psychotheunsane4542 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm actually surprised that Nintendo hasn't issued a C&D against this TH-cam video. How DARE someone post the truth about a corrupt company! 😂
    I will say that Nintendo has some amazing games, but still, has some nasty skeletons in its closet.

  • @LawltheJester
    @LawltheJester ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Mario Maker 3...D

  • @superjumpbros64
    @superjumpbros64 ปีที่แล้ว

    Because they aren't like Sega who approve of Fan Games

  • @seriousspider1378
    @seriousspider1378 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think most of these are just 'ideas' not rlly stealing. Like they straight up gave Nintendo an idea and they did their own version of it.

    • @wubbers662
      @wubbers662 ปีที่แล้ว

      Also with Metroid, it probably took more than 6 months to get a new one ready for the 3ds

    • @wubbers662
      @wubbers662 ปีที่แล้ว

      Also they re-instated the Battle Royale Mario one

  • @supersmashseandx1991
    @supersmashseandx1991 ปีที่แล้ว

    You have to remember: CORPERATIONS AREN'T PEOPLE. They need to make money, and if a fan does it better, they need to get rid of it.

  • @darthvader473
    @darthvader473 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This is why I'm not a fan of Nintendo, tho some games are enjoyable.

  • @bdt2002gaming
    @bdt2002gaming ปีที่แล้ว

    I genuinely think that it’s time I switch to Xbox now. This is kinda ridiculous.

  • @clonetheory3343
    @clonetheory3343 ปีที่แล้ว

    i dont think it really matters, people take ideas from others all the rime

  • @Berrymaybeking
    @Berrymaybeking ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wow

  • @wubbers662
    @wubbers662 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What's up with these overdramatized thumbnails though? I preferred the older, simpler ones

  • @sonicfandude3552
    @sonicfandude3552 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    nintendo sued channel SML

    • @wubbers662
      @wubbers662 ปีที่แล้ว

      Wasn't that TH-cam for getting far too violent?

  • @RyanKuebel
    @RyanKuebel ปีที่แล้ว

    im angry everyone is advertising this mobile ass cash grab. Octopath was a gem... this is a perversian.

  • @ivanperalta2523
    @ivanperalta2523 ปีที่แล้ว

    what is up with the thumbnail changes on this video

  • @marcusbrown5781
    @marcusbrown5781 ปีที่แล้ว

    apple does the same thing

  • @the-angel-of-light-gardevoir8
    @the-angel-of-light-gardevoir8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Seems kinda sus…….

  • @ilyaspetrov8444
    @ilyaspetrov8444 ปีที่แล้ว

    111 to 666

  • @ZERARCHIVE2023
    @ZERARCHIVE2023 ปีที่แล้ว

    The switch is a overhyped console with tons of ports of the wii u.

  • @tipsysipsy1803
    @tipsysipsy1803 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yo Steelers

  • @segaspice4062
    @segaspice4062 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    F NINTENDO

  • @iaetyoucat3890
    @iaetyoucat3890 ปีที่แล้ว

    Elloooo

  • @SwitchyGlitchyDagio7
    @SwitchyGlitchyDagio7 ปีที่แล้ว

    sorry im not a fan of rpgs

  • @Xxblade17
    @Xxblade17 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ayo

  • @dynamicdobbie22
    @dynamicdobbie22 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    First like and comment let’s go baby

  • @Cool_Scups
    @Cool_Scups ปีที่แล้ว

    hi also first

  • @margaritacortes9533
    @margaritacortes9533 ปีที่แล้ว

    12th

  • @mikehawk9281
    @mikehawk9281 ปีที่แล้ว

    You have definitely fallen off bud

  • @alphie1765
    @alphie1765 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I’m kind of sad at how critical of Nintendo you’ve become. Not saying your videos are bad or anything, but I just don’t think this direction is for me.

  • @thembc7863
    @thembc7863 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    stop forcing that fake laugh cough whatever every 5 seconds

    • @Brob2nd
      @Brob2nd หลายเดือนก่อน

      why not