As for Amos being the first one to notice the "incoming message" screen, you will discover that his situational awareness is quite a bit higher than most.
Well they won't discover shit when commenters are just outright telling them, bigbrain. Fans really can't help themselves but blab? Just watch the damn show and have fun commenting *UP TO* the level of the channel hosts' experience in the specific episode you're watching. ffs.
You don't know the mystery they;re trying to solve yet because they don't know either. Unlike shows with an omniscient point of view where the viewer gets to know things the characters don;t, The Expanse very rarely does that. You'll get to learn things as they do. That can feel a bit maddening at times but it makes the answers way more satisfying when you get them. This show won't leave you hanging.
The really frustrating part about it later is that you then end up knowing dozens of character's perspectives, and know that each of them doesn't know the others'. So you end up tearing your hair out yelling at one character to just "do this already!" but meanwhile they have no clue it exists because another character millions of miles away were the ones who knew about it and didn't tell anyone.
Yes, the viewer won't know any more than at least one character knows. Moreover, what the character knows may be wrong, and the viewer is led wrong right along with them.
1000%!!! I'm always trying to get people to watch this show but refuse to give anything away, because the thrill of not knowing where it goes is so mind blowing. And most importantly, you truly understand what the character's go through and why they make the choices they do. @Nerdy Nightly has no idea what they're in for lol I have read the book series and the show like three times over it's so brilliant, philosophical and nuanced and heart breaking and rewarding I'm so glad they didn't mess up the show (it's pretty faithful to the book) I hold this up to Dune and Game of Thrones, but with a much more satisfying "ending" (sorry GoT) and those who've read the books, you know what I mean 😉 Soooo happy to see that new people are watching it, I'm subscribed for as long as they watch the show 👍
Okay I'll do something nerdy and leave a comment here. Dulcinea the title of episode 1 is also the name of Don Quixote idealized love interest. So far you have been given a pencil outline or sketch of what will eventually become a Master Painting. There are characters from the story of Don Quixote which will be reflected in the characters and objects from this show.
The Martian officer is the first, but you'll find there's a *lot* of characters like him in this series. It's my favorite thing about The Expanse. Time and time again it's people who aren't involved in the main story who step up to do the right thing and save countless lives as a result. The main characters cannot do it alone, and these one or two episode characters rise to the occasion when their moment comes. It's a very beautiful aspect of the series.
@@captain_britain Aside from the out-of-universe reason mentioned in the video (in the scope of this episode, the choice to go to Fred is a big deal, so we need to learn why, so the flashbacks must be related), there's also the fact that the timings match up ("that was 10 years ago!" during the argument about Fred, vs the "11 years ago" shown for the flashback).
@@captain_britain The voice. The first communication between anderson station and fred has his voice distorted, probably because fred speaks immediately in the next scene so it would be too obvious, but his voice is very clear in the next flashbacks. Also I get the feeling a couple of times every episode that Clarus has seen the show before lol, so I'm guessing one of the two
Trivia: Anderson Dawes is named after the Anderson-Hyosung Cooperative Industries Group, the company his parents worked for. The same corporation that ran Anderson Station. It's not actually specifically relevant to anything that happens in the show (so not a spoiler), but it's an interesting bit of world building.
" I know men like him" is a very significant statement in the context of Naomi's character arc. Keep that in mind as it will start to make sense as they reveal layers of her character and her past through the next 5 seasons.
In episode one, Havelock and Miller responded to a stabbing and the prostitute was the witness that they questioned. In the book, Havelock spends more time with her, attempting to learn more about the Belters which is why he brings her the cactus that he gets from the governor's aide.
tenye wa chesh gut. great call on fred's backstory. you think Amos knowing a lady named Rocinante is weird? wait til you find out who his favorite stripper is.
The scene of the father and daughter dead in space, is the first example of what/why I think this show deserves a Emmy award. There are many other episodes that pull/yank at your heart strings. And each one should get this show an Emmy. This show is my all time favorite sci-fi series.
And it is just one example where the score is really effective at setting the mood. Just one of many dimensions in which the show's execution kicks things up to feature-movie-level of excellence.
The series is like this a lot. You'll think that not a lot is happening, and it's just creating more questions, but it all pays off eventually. Keep paying very close attention.
Everything is important. The mystery really is a mystery and you won't know even when you figure it out. This was perfect for a game narrative. Open questions that seem to lead nowhere but are all important.
The OPA is a loose collection of several dissident factions within the belt. Some of the factions are more moderate and some are more militant meaning that the OPA is far from a harmonious group. As far as Naomi and Fred are concerned, you have to remember that Naomi is the only belter amongst the Rocinante crew so she would be particularly sensitive to the deaths at Andersson Station. I don't think it was ever mentioned in the books or TV series with regards to the exact timeline of the exploitation of the belt but it is entirely possible that Mars was still an Earth colony and not an independent planet when the belt was first explored and mined.
Anderson Dawes was named after the company that his parents worked for in an attempt to curry favor with them. The same company that owned Anderson Station.
Very briefly, the main factions are: Earth/UN - has a majority of natural resources and the largest by numbers military and control of everything from Earth toward the Sun. Mars - relies on outside sources for many of its resources. Has tenuous relations with Earth after a long war for its independence years ago. Has the most advanced and modern military. The OPA - or Outer Planets Alliance is a loose political organization that contains a number of factions, some of which are more militant than others - that fights for the rights of belters. Belters inhabit the asteroid belt outside of Mars and many of the colonies and outposts beyond Mars. As in the real world, there's more gray area than black and white and one of the best thing about this show is it's ability to show good people and selfish people on all sides.
When the belters talk about “Inners” they can mean either Earth or Mars or both- anything further out from the sun than Earth or Mars is considered “the Belt”. Good catch on noticing that the way the camera moves in space - you may also notice in the jnterior shots that anytime a ship is under thrust, the camera is stable- but when they are stationary (or the engine is off) the camera is alway slightly in motion. This was intentional to represent floating in zero gravity. Another great reaction! - Also, you may not realize it yet, but you are starting to figure some things about what is going on…..😎 Looking forward to the next one!! 🚀
Mercury, Venus, Earth, Mars have always been referred to in Astronomy as the "Inner Planets" with Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus, Neptune, and, until a few years ago, Pluto referred to as the "Outer Planets." Jupiter is a significantly greater distance from Mars than Earth to Mars, and separated by the asteroid belt.
The order of major system events is essentially logical: 1. Earth First 2. Earth seeks to Colonize Mars and gather resources. 3. Resources to effect Mars colonization are required from the Belt 4. Belt mining supports both Earth and Mars and turns exploitative. 5. Mars Terraformers push for independence from Earth dominion and have the cutting edge tech to force the issue. 6. Belters become the 3rd faction in the system made up of Laborers, Pirates, and Freedom Fighters/Terrorists.
The younger cop Havelock met the prostitute Gia when he and Miller investigated the earlier murder of another prostitute at the same brothel. Oh, btw, there is a TH-cam video of deleted scenes from the first episode that you might want to watch: th-cam.com/video/OkfMWOnMiuY/w-d-xo.html As Miller was leaving Havelock's hospital room, Gia gave him a gesture of two fingers to her lips toward him. That's a Belter blown kiss. A bit later, Miller watched the video of Julie decking a guy at the shipyard...that guy gave her the same two-finger-to-the-lips gesture as she walked away. We learned that "sherpa" is Ceres underworld slang for "data broker." The fake Bizi Bitiko, Julie's databroker, had the space Tinder tagline of "I'll be your sherpa." Remember Fred Johnson is building the first interstellar ship, which necessarily has the most powerful communications and sensors ever built. That's why Johnson used them to monitor the Donnager battle. That is why Johnson could track the (now) Rocinante as it fled the scene. The big bald guy said, "That is my going away present." Remember the water thief Miller nabbed had said that all the major gangsters were leaving Ceres, and Miller had briefly wondered why. People sometimes ask "Where is the AI in this series?" When Naomi approached one of the Roci's information panel, it immediately presented a "Chief Engineer" data screen. The ship already knows everything about them (everything Lopez knew), including her extensive engineering background and probably knew she had been the chief engineer of the Canterbury, so it had identified her as the most likely person aboard to be the chief engineer. There is lots of AI in the technology of The Expanse (especially in Martian technology), it just doesn't speak. Here is a question: How did someone notorious as The Butcher of Anderson Station become a leader of the very people he butchered? Yes, Nerdy had a good thought about one atrocity too far. You will get more information about the Earth-Mars backstory and context in later episodes. The OPA is similar to the Palestinian Liberation Organization or the Irish Republican Army: Many factions, some political, some humanitarian, some criminal, some terrorist. Some people call The Expanse "Game of Thrones in space" and Jim Holden the "space Jon Snow." One of the writers of the series had formerly been George RR Martin's assistant. In the novel, Anderson Dawes and Anderson Station had the very tenuous connection in that Dawes' parents did name him for the Anderson company, probably hoping it would benefit him in some way.
This episode like all of really is important because it's more world building and character development. Star Trek has the Enterprise and Star Wars has the Millennium Falcon, The Expanse has The Rocinante! And we love her very very much ❤ We also learn the name of The Expanse fandom " Screaming Firehawks!" The mystery continues! Looking forward to the next one!
You're not the only ones who are confused, I had no clue where this was going myself lol. There are two mysteries, what happened to Julie and the ship she was on and who attacked the ships our characters have been hopping from, there is so much more this show has up its sleeves. The amazing ships, sets, space scenes, action and character development is always a delight to my inner sci-fi nerd. Each episode was around $3million to produce, some episodes IMO deserved award recognition :)
Keep in mind that E1-4 were the prologue. Also, die hard fans of the Expanse call ourselves the Screaming Firehawks because of Alex's name suggestion. And finally, S1 has 10 episodes, but Book 1 doesn't end with the finale of S1. Book 1 Finale aligns inside S2. There are always surprise plot twists in the cast and even as late as S6 you still end up meeting new "regulars", so they're like Robert Jordan that way... many, many NPCs, no way to know until the end of the show who was major and who was not. Loving your reactions to this. Keep it up!
In world, Rocinante is a reference to Don Quixote (the name of his horse). IRL it's a reference to the Rush song Cygnus-X1 "On my ship the Rocinante, wheeling through the galaxies"
You mentioned the actor messing with the UI in his room - they let the actors do their own movements for those and did the CGI around it, so it would feel more natural
Eeehhh, sort of. There are basic notions discussed beforehand (pun intended) and a VFX Supervisor on set to guide the process. Directors (and sometimes DOPs) will also have input. So, "puppeteering" is avoided as you want the actors to breathe life into the character and body language is part of it. However, if the script says "Character gestures to increase magnification" there is a basic gesture UI motion which is expected. Obviously a lot of it is based on current gesture-control interfaces and schools of thought which, as we know, also uses customization tools for each user. Systems like the Rocinante's AI would be able to interpret and interpolate each user's tendencies. As we see in Episode 9, which is just a full episode of the Space Scooby Gang calibrating the Roci to their control gestures while listening to audio books. Kidding!
funny you should mention like D&D levels, The Expanse book series actually started as a D&D roleplay style game, with the main Rocinante crew being the people playing the game! When the person who played Shed had to leave the game permanently, they decided to write his character off with a very dramatic ending :p It also helps explain why, as you put it, the characters don't feel like they are able to handle the situation, because they all have kind of been thrown into the thick of it! Not explained on the show but mentioned in the books: Anderson Dawes' was in fact named after Anderson station. When his parents named him it was meant to be like a moment of pride in this successful Belter mining station (something like that) and after it got destroyed, it naturally took on a very different connotation... works well for him, considering his position in the OPA.
great quote from the books from miller's pov that describes the slippery slope of the solar system right now: "the canterbury had stripped away the complacency of the belt, but the donnager had done something worse, it had taken away the fear". Another one: "Sooner or later, there would come a time when Mars wouldn't ignore it anymore, and when Mars took action, it wouldn't matter who blew up the canterbury, because nothing would matter, and Earth would inevitably get dragged in as well. Mars knew the belt couldn't win, and the belt knew it had nothing to lose."
Rocinante was Don Quixote's horse. Dulcinea (first episode title): also from Don Quixote. Not a coincidence. Anderson Dawes having the same name as Anderson Station is a coincidence that probably pisses him off, which is awesome. The mystery - which unfolds and (ahem) expands - will reveal itself and you'll get it all, I promise, but with more questions, always more questions. What is Julie involved with? Where is she now? Who blew up the Cant and the Donnager? Naomi? "I know men like him," is legit Naomi backstory. Patience, grasshopper. Outer Planets Alliance is everything outside of Earth and Mars, and has lots and lots of different factions. Love that you had nothing to say but took like 20 minutes to say it 🤣😂🤣😂
The D&D comparison is apt since this was first developed as a board game then abandoned for the novel series and accompanying short stories. The mystery is what’s up with that original ship and everyone on it and Julie.
I see so many comments that the show kicks off at episode 4 but it really doesn't until probably episode 8. At the end of the first season is where you start to get glimmers of answers to all of your questions and they keep doing that until the first book finale which happens about season 2 episode 4 and 5 if my memory serves. That's when this show really gets moving. When people say this is the best show out there they aren't kidding but it takes some patience suspending your need to know all the answers early on. Just be patient and you will become a screaming firehawk like the rest of us.
Actually you caught it right. Anderson Dawes was named after the company that his parents worked for, Anderson-Hyosung Cooperative Industries Group. This company operated Anderson Station.
Last episode showed us lots of cool action, and provided a taste of things to come. This episode moved the story forward, and you found out a lot more about Julie Mao and what drives her, as well as Miller's evolving feelings about her. Miller's investigation definitely took center stage, this time; the stuff about Fred and the crew of the Rocinante mostly built up the foundation for future developments.
Honestly the Expanse is a experience , over the 6 seasons it does a marvelous job of world building to levels rarely seen in television. It often feels like watching the show is like reading a book where you go along with the characters on a journey learning first hand about what motivates the characters and the various factions involved
The best analogy that I have for the OPA is Sinn Féin and the IRA. There are a bunch of different factions who all claim they are part of the OPA. Some of them are humanitarian and civil groups, some are armed, and some are straight up terrorists. The lack of a central authority is one of the many issues that they are dealing with when trying to negotiate with the inner planets. The outer planets are the belt and everything beyond it.
Clarus has it for the most part. I worked for a native American hospital, and non-natives that try to learn and understand the culture/language (without trying to 'become' a part of it, we had those too) are much appreciated by a large number of tribal members, elders especially.
The show like to show, don't tell. I do like the crew moving into the ship and giving it a name. Miller's story is the focus of this episode where he made a deal with Dawes and I don't know if you noticed but he did ditch the pad that Dawes gave him with the information on where the dude that pinned Havalok to the wall. I feel the talk between Miller and Dawes in the bar was very good in building what Dawes goal is. The mystery is what's Julie's story and who's wanting a war between Earth and Mars. They have some high tech stuff.
Rocinante is the name of Don Quixote's horse. There are definitely factions in the Outer Planets Alliance. It's both a political body and a terrorist organization representing the asteroids and beyond (Mars comes before the Belt). It's meant to be evocative of the IRA, which tried to transition itself from a terrorist organization to a political group from the late 80s on, with a variety of splinter groups who wanted to be more militant, or more political, or every variation in between, which eventually were either absorbed or stamped out. Anderson Dawes (and Fred Johnson) are partially the public face of and spearheading the political arm of the OPA. Naomi's backstory doesn't get fully revealed for a while, though.
I could be wrong, but don't think Havelock (Miller's partner) met the Belter girl he's learning signing and creole from before the fatal knifing incident that he and Miller investigated in an earlier episode. Also, you learned lots of things about the world this episode without even knowing that you did. Many tiny details or half lines gradually flesh out the story and some will only become relevant or resolved multiple seasons later. It's quite incredible writing.
It's as if there was a series of books written with fleshed out characters, backstories, plot lines, and story arcs ahead of time that this show used as its foundation? Unlike BSG which shot form the hip and had no fucking clue what they were going to do form one episode to the next.
@@surfeit5910 I wasn't certain about that with BSG until Dualla took a powder. The writers told on themselves in that moment. They didn't know where they were going any more than she did.
@@surfeit5910 I often see comments along the line of "The Expanse is the best Sci-Fi show since BSG". I'm sure I'll upset some people here, but it makes me worry for humanity that anybody rates that show
The Expanse is set in the year 2350. Earths population is 30+ billion people. Mars has about 10 billion people. 100 million people live on Luna (Earth's Moon) and somewhere between 50 to 100 million people live in the Belt. And, the majority of all resources for comes from mining the belt.
That whole Butcher of Anderson Station subplot is from a novella of the same name. They started releasing novellas in between each book and I highly recommend the audiobooks. There's a lot of interesting details in them that aren't ever spelled out directly in the show.
It's not explained in the series, but in the books is stated that Anderson Dawkes takes his name from the Anderson station. The fact that it's the exact same station that got butchered it's just a tragic coincidence... you'll see that later. :)
According to the novel Don Quijote De La Mancha by Miguel De Cervantes, Rocinante is described as a horse old and worn out but in the imagination of our hero Don Quijote it seemed to him that it was a horse of bearing and even more so that not even the horses of the greatest legends could match it. Rocín is a horse rough and dedicated to the work of plowing and transporting loads, hence the word "Workhorse". As an extra fact, our heroes in The Expanse have a Quijotic adventure where they are motivated by a strong sense of morality and in search of a better future, Don Quijote is characterized by having a distorted sense of reality but with a goal of justice, Holden could perfectly be a Don Quijote.
God, I hate that name. I do NOT identify as a "Screaming Firehawk", even though this is probably my favorite series of the last decade. Far too college humour goofball fanboy nomenclature
Coffee is indeed the drink of the gods. During this show (well, the books, really) is when I started calling dry pet food kibble. Everyone has secrets. Naomi’s is bigger than most.
I love the contrast between Frank Herbert's Dune which has an omniscient third a person narrator as opposed to The Expanse which has a limited first person narrator where the characters only learn what you as a viewer might learn.
The Outer Planets' Alliance says that they represent all human habitation other than "The Inners" (Earth and Mars), however, it is made up of more than a dozen factions, each with its own leader and agenda, which may not align with those of any other faction. Kind of like the Irish Revolutionary Army.
The original Star Trek shows used physical models for the ships, because computer CGI wasn't available back then. That limited the range of possible shots. Babylon 5 was the first space opera to use CGI and that opened up the full range of camera and ship movements which we enjoy today.
Just in case you think Fred's the bloke with the most normal name: His full name is Frederick Lucius Johnson... the show has an Roman vibe, Mars is the early republic, Earth the late Empire... You'll find a lot of people who have Roman names here - Miller's named "Josephus" Miller. Best regards Raoul G. Kunz
The pace of this episode seems slow but if you binge, the pace is a nice break from eps 3 and 4. Also, i highly recommend a rewatch when you complete the series. so many things are carried through all 6 seasons.
The OPA is based on the colonies on asteriods in the belt and multiple bases on Jupiter and Saturn moons. These are generally all considered "Belter" by ethnicity, although Earth and Mars have a military presence on many of the colonies. There are no colonies Sun side of Mars, apart from Luna and I think a couple of tiny bases on Mars' moons, all of which are under the direct control of Earth and Mars. So from the Asteriod Belt out, that is considered belter territory (by the Belters and the OPA). Earth and Mars may hold a different view... The OPA itself is considered the political arm of the Belt. It consists of dozens if not hundreds of factions, some of which call themselves OPA to gain recognition or legitimacy. Many of these are violent organisaions or flat out pirates. This leaves the OPA struggling to be recognised at a legitimate mouthpiece for the belt, as detractors will label the OPA a terrorist organisaion. There is no centralised power structure so nobody can really control its "membership". Essentially anyone who wants legitimacy with the Belt needs to be a part of this organisation, but in doing so loses any legitimacy with Earth or Mars. Anderson Dawes is considered one if its leaders, being the head of the OPA on Ceres (the largest colony in the belt).
The Expanse will always balance each low out with an equal high and vice versa. I don't know if it was a blessing or a curse because you'd reallly want that next high-octane action episode, but on the other hand, the rest of the season wouldn't hold up to something that front-heavy. So you just have to go along with the up and down roller coaster ride. Just wait until you actually see what Miller finds though..... it's well worth your time. As you get more into the show I will warn you that Amos is probably one of the most thought out, authentic, and genuine characters to entire the Sci Fi genre. There's just so much about him you love to hate, and hate to love.
This was really more of a character building episode than it was moving the plot forward. The two examples I'll use are observations Nerdy made. First, yes, all of the clues Miller is finding are pointing off station. His supervisor closed the case as soon as he told her. Him continuing to follow leads tells us he's obsessed at this point. That he's incautious with his viewing habits let us know he's either a crappy cop or let himself go. Either way, why was he picked for a high profile case when he's obviously not that conspicuous? The second is Amos being the only one to notice the incoming message. Out of the group, Amos is the only one who is hyper aware of his surroundings directly following a highly stressful escape and blackout. That he was still hyper aware with a compound fracture also tells us something. Don't let any mean comments bother you, you guys are great and you'll enjoy what you enjoy. Art is subjective, period. Also, once you learn more of Amos's back story the more you'll appreciate the ironic humor of the lady named Rocinante :)
Some payoffs to what seem like throwaway lines don't actually reveal themselves until several seasons down the line. There's no such thing as wasted dialogue in this show.
I feel like I said something along these lines in the previous episode. "Expanse" is not anything like the mediocre tripe that usually gets put out these days. It's the real deal. It's consummate storytelling. It won't coddle you. It won't spoonfeed anything to you. You're thrown into the deep end of the pool to fend for yourself along with all the characters. That's its genius. That's what makes it so gripping and so alive.
I actually think watching one episode a week does a disservice to the series. You’ll notice a better flow and you’ll be able to pick up on the more nuanced aspects of the show when you watch it as a whole. What may seem like a “slower episode” feels more dynamic when viewed in hindsight after finishing the season.
My favorite part of this episode was you rooting for Miller! Lol. It just tugged at my heartstrings. Also, I want to explain that Earth and Mars are both Independent powers and basically govern the resources of the Belt.
Neither Mars nor The Belt would survive without Earth, as both would starve to death. So yeah, Mars is no 1. military power but it can't exist without Earth. Not to mention poor Belt.
What's so funny is I've actually played Don Quixote in the musical, but I never read the book... You'd think I would know, but like a typical actor I only remember my lines and songs lol
The OPA is analogous to historical political factions like the IRA in Ireland, and the PLO in Palestine, who claim to speak for an oppressed minority without any means to actually find out if the majority of people they claim to represent even support their actions - most people in those types of situations are just trying to survive, and too often the actions of these groups does more harm than good because the "oppressors" don't bother to differentiate when retaliating. So as far as most people on Earth and Mars are concerned (i.e. the Inners), the OPA = all Belters
Just so you know, Tycho Station aka 'The Mormon Place' is not owned by the Mormons. Its an construction/engineering station run by Fred Johnson and the Mormons are paying them to build their giant Mormon spaceship. I kind of think of the OPA as being a little bit like the real world IRA. While it's easy to think of it as a single organisation it's actually made up of various splinter groups that all want Belter independence but have varying ideas of how to go about it. Some OPA groups are violent extremists, some are more political and lots are are mixture of both.
Right now, you have little reason to, but trust in The Expanse. You'll get everything you're looking for and then some. The problem a lot of reactors run into with this show is that it is one of the most bingeable shows ever. Once it gets going it doesn't even really slow down and just keeps demanding you keep going. It will get pretty frustrating for y'all having to wait to react and film the next episode here relatively quickly.
As for Amos being the first one to notice the "incoming message" screen, you will discover that his situational awareness is quite a bit higher than most.
The fact that he was the only one looking in that direction while everyone else was looking at him probably helped, too...
Well they won't discover shit when commenters are just outright telling them, bigbrain. Fans really can't help themselves but blab?
Just watch the damn show and have fun commenting *UP TO* the level of the channel hosts' experience in the specific episode you're watching. ffs.
Hypervigillance is a common protective response to trauma.
You don't know the mystery they;re trying to solve yet because they don't know either. Unlike shows with an omniscient point of view where the viewer gets to know things the characters don;t, The Expanse very rarely does that. You'll get to learn things as they do. That can feel a bit maddening at times but it makes the answers way more satisfying when you get them. This show won't leave you hanging.
The really frustrating part about it later is that you then end up knowing dozens of character's perspectives, and know that each of them doesn't know the others'. So you end up tearing your hair out yelling at one character to just "do this already!" but meanwhile they have no clue it exists because another character millions of miles away were the ones who knew about it and didn't tell anyone.
Yes, the viewer won't know any more than at least one character knows. Moreover, what the character knows may be wrong, and the viewer is led wrong right along with them.
This comment makes me think of the Passengers fan edit. That was WAY better when it was a mystery to the audience.
1000%!!!
I'm always trying to get people to watch this show but refuse to give anything away, because the thrill of not knowing where it goes is so mind blowing. And most importantly, you truly understand what the character's go through and why they make the choices they do.
@Nerdy Nightly has no idea what they're in for lol
I have read the book series and the show like three times over it's so brilliant, philosophical and nuanced and heart breaking and rewarding I'm so glad they didn't mess up the show (it's pretty faithful to the book)
I hold this up to Dune and Game of Thrones, but with a much more satisfying "ending" (sorry GoT) and those who've read the books, you know what I mean 😉
Soooo happy to see that new people are watching it, I'm subscribed for as long as they watch the show 👍
Watchmen is similar and one of the most underrated shows out there imo. Putting together the puzzle pieces as you go is half of the fun.
The Rocinante is a reference to Don Quixote and is the name of his horse.
It is also the name of the ship in the Rush Song "Cygnus X-1".
Okay I'll do something nerdy and leave a comment here. Dulcinea the title of episode 1 is also the name of Don Quixote idealized love interest. So far you have been given a pencil outline or sketch of what will eventually become a Master Painting. There are characters from the story of Don Quixote which will be reflected in the characters and objects from this show.
@@intellectualchaos7997 also the Rocinante has three drones: “Peart”, “Lee” and “Lifeson”
@@chart6454 Wait is that true? Is it in the books. I never noticed.
You guys don't learn Don Quixote in High School?
The Martian officer is the first, but you'll find there's a *lot* of characters like him in this series. It's my favorite thing about The Expanse. Time and time again it's people who aren't involved in the main story who step up to do the right thing and save countless lives as a result. The main characters cannot do it alone, and these one or two episode characters rise to the occasion when their moment comes. It's a very beautiful aspect of the series.
Props to the actors and actresses for these side characters too, who really make them memorable.
No series does one-episode characters like the expanse
Well said
It also keeps you on your toes. You can never be sure who is going to be a recurring character and who is not.
I love that most of the characters aren't black & white. Even the villains, still have their human side and practical reasons for doing things.
Clarus deciphering the Butcher of Anderson Station story halfway through the episode is the chef's kiss.
How did she do that?!
@@captain_britain My first time, even having some knowledge from the first book, I was still amazed with the reveal.
@@captain_britain Aside from the out-of-universe reason mentioned in the video (in the scope of this episode, the choice to go to Fred is a big deal, so we need to learn why, so the flashbacks must be related), there's also the fact that the timings match up ("that was 10 years ago!" during the argument about Fred, vs the "11 years ago" shown for the flashback).
@@captain_britain The voice. The first communication between anderson station and fred has his voice distorted, probably because fred speaks immediately in the next scene so it would be too obvious, but his voice is very clear in the next flashbacks. Also I get the feeling a couple of times every episode that Clarus has seen the show before lol, so I'm guessing one of the two
Trivia: Anderson Dawes is named after the Anderson-Hyosung Cooperative Industries Group, the company his parents worked for. The same corporation that ran Anderson Station.
It's not actually specifically relevant to anything that happens in the show (so not a spoiler), but it's an interesting bit of world building.
I didn't know that despite having watched the whole show and occasionally wikibinged.
@@maxmichalik4938 you only learn that in the book.
" I know men like him" is a very significant statement in the context of Naomi's character arc. Keep that in mind as it will start to make sense as they reveal layers of her character and her past through the next 5 seasons.
In episode one, Havelock and Miller responded to a stabbing and the prostitute was the witness that they questioned. In the book, Havelock spends more time with her, attempting to learn more about the Belters which is why he brings her the cactus that he gets from the governor's aide.
tenye wa chesh gut.
great call on fred's backstory.
you think Amos knowing a lady named Rocinante is weird? wait til you find out who his favorite stripper is.
Haha. It's funny because I know what you mean! 😂😂😂
Tenya Wa Chesh Gut Beltalowda!
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INSIDE JOKES AMIRITE FELLOW VIEWERS TEE HEE
The scene of the father and daughter dead in space, is the first example of what/why I think this show deserves a Emmy award. There are many other episodes that pull/yank at your heart strings. And each one should get this show an Emmy. This show is my all time favorite sci-fi series.
This series has been robbed for years as far as the Emmy's
@@jamesholland5761 Robbed blind every year. Not even a nomination.
And it is just one example where the score is really effective at setting the mood.
Just one of many dimensions in which the show's execution kicks things up to feature-movie-level of excellence.
This show was robbed of so many Emmies
Naomi's "don't talk about things you know nothing about," to Holden was actually with respect to Fred Johnson's reputation, from one of the oppressed.
but she proved his point in saying it.
Rocinante: Don Quixote's horse. The one he rode when he tilted at windmills.
The series is like this a lot. You'll think that not a lot is happening, and it's just creating more questions, but it all pays off eventually. Keep paying very close attention.
Everything is important. The mystery really is a mystery and you won't know even when you figure it out. This was perfect for a game narrative. Open questions that seem to lead nowhere but are all important.
This was the thing for me.., I never felt like I was able to figure anything out ahead of the next episode, and I loved that fact!
@@psychomantis9442 the writers do a brilliant job of hiding the mystery in season 1. Once you get the reveal it's like, well duh.
The OPA is a loose collection of several dissident factions within the belt. Some of the factions are more moderate and some are more militant meaning that the OPA is far from a harmonious group.
As far as Naomi and Fred are concerned, you have to remember that Naomi is the only belter amongst the Rocinante crew so she would be particularly sensitive to the deaths at Andersson Station.
I don't think it was ever mentioned in the books or TV series with regards to the exact timeline of the exploitation of the belt but it is entirely possible that Mars was still an Earth colony and not an independent planet when the belt was first explored and mined.
Anderson Dawes was named after the company that his parents worked for in an attempt to curry favor with them. The same company that owned Anderson Station.
Nerdy, you should listen to Clarus more. She's got this show figured out
Very briefly, the main factions are: Earth/UN - has a majority of natural resources and the largest by numbers military and control of everything from Earth toward the Sun. Mars - relies on outside sources for many of its resources. Has tenuous relations with Earth after a long war for its independence years ago. Has the most advanced and modern military. The OPA - or Outer Planets Alliance is a loose political organization that contains a number of factions, some of which are more militant than others - that fights for the rights of belters. Belters inhabit the asteroid belt outside of Mars and many of the colonies and outposts beyond Mars. As in the real world, there's more gray area than black and white and one of the best thing about this show is it's ability to show good people and selfish people on all sides.
When the belters talk about “Inners” they can mean either Earth or Mars or both- anything further out from the sun than Earth or Mars is considered “the Belt”.
Good catch on noticing that the way the camera moves in space - you may also notice in the jnterior shots that anytime a ship is under thrust, the camera is stable- but when they are stationary (or the engine is off) the camera is alway slightly in motion. This was intentional to represent floating in zero gravity.
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Also, you may not realize it yet, but you are starting to figure some things about what is going on…..😎 Looking forward to the next one!! 🚀
Mercury, Venus, Earth, Mars have always been referred to in Astronomy as the "Inner Planets" with Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus, Neptune, and, until a few years ago, Pluto referred to as the "Outer Planets." Jupiter is a significantly greater distance from Mars than Earth to Mars, and separated by the asteroid belt.
The order of major system events is essentially logical:
1. Earth First
2. Earth seeks to Colonize Mars and gather resources.
3. Resources to effect Mars colonization are required from the Belt
4. Belt mining supports both Earth and Mars and turns exploitative.
5. Mars Terraformers push for independence from Earth dominion and have the cutting edge tech to force the issue.
6. Belters become the 3rd faction in the system made up of Laborers, Pirates, and Freedom Fighters/Terrorists.
The younger cop Havelock met the prostitute Gia when he and Miller investigated the earlier murder of another prostitute at the same brothel. Oh, btw, there is a TH-cam video of deleted scenes from the first episode that you might want to watch: th-cam.com/video/OkfMWOnMiuY/w-d-xo.html
As Miller was leaving Havelock's hospital room, Gia gave him a gesture of two fingers to her lips toward him. That's a Belter blown kiss. A bit later, Miller watched the video of Julie decking a guy at the shipyard...that guy gave her the same two-finger-to-the-lips gesture as she walked away.
We learned that "sherpa" is Ceres underworld slang for "data broker." The fake Bizi Bitiko, Julie's databroker, had the space Tinder tagline of "I'll be your sherpa."
Remember Fred Johnson is building the first interstellar ship, which necessarily has the most powerful communications and sensors ever built. That's why Johnson used them to monitor the Donnager battle. That is why Johnson could track the (now) Rocinante as it fled the scene.
The big bald guy said, "That is my going away present." Remember the water thief Miller nabbed had said that all the major gangsters were leaving Ceres, and Miller had briefly wondered why.
People sometimes ask "Where is the AI in this series?" When Naomi approached one of the Roci's information panel, it immediately presented a "Chief Engineer" data screen. The ship already knows everything about them (everything Lopez knew), including her extensive engineering background and probably knew she had been the chief engineer of the Canterbury, so it had identified her as the most likely person aboard to be the chief engineer. There is lots of AI in the technology of The Expanse (especially in Martian technology), it just doesn't speak.
Here is a question: How did someone notorious as The Butcher of Anderson Station become a leader of the very people he butchered? Yes, Nerdy had a good thought about one atrocity too far.
You will get more information about the Earth-Mars backstory and context in later episodes. The OPA is similar to the Palestinian Liberation Organization or the Irish Republican Army: Many factions, some political, some humanitarian, some criminal, some terrorist.
Some people call The Expanse "Game of Thrones in space" and Jim Holden the "space Jon Snow." One of the writers of the series had formerly been George RR Martin's assistant.
In the novel, Anderson Dawes and Anderson Station had the very tenuous connection in that Dawes' parents did name him for the Anderson company, probably hoping it would benefit him in some way.
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"there is a TH-cam video of deleted scenes"
How the heck did I see this for the first time today?!?
Is there more of this stuff around?
Thanks for the link.
This episode like all of really is important because it's more world building and character development.
Star Trek has the Enterprise and Star Wars has the Millennium Falcon, The Expanse has The Rocinante! And we love her very very much ❤
We also learn the name of The Expanse fandom " Screaming Firehawks!"
The mystery continues!
Looking forward to the next one!
Yes, with the Rocinante, the team stops being pawns and become knights.
We do love the Rocinante. ❤
You're not the only ones who are confused, I had no clue where this was going myself lol.
There are two mysteries, what happened to Julie and the ship she was on and who attacked the ships our characters have been hopping from, there is so much more this show has up its sleeves.
The amazing ships, sets, space scenes, action and character development is always a delight to my inner sci-fi nerd. Each episode was around $3million to produce, some episodes IMO deserved award recognition :)
Keep in mind that E1-4 were the prologue. Also, die hard fans of the Expanse call ourselves the Screaming Firehawks because of Alex's name suggestion.
And finally, S1 has 10 episodes, but Book 1 doesn't end with the finale of S1. Book 1 Finale aligns inside S2. There are always surprise plot twists in the cast and even as late as S6 you still end up meeting new "regulars", so they're like Robert Jordan that way... many, many NPCs, no way to know until the end of the show who was major and who was not.
Loving your reactions to this. Keep it up!
the show does a lot of world and character building. it may feel like filler but it tends to add to the show as a whole with big payoffs.
In world, Rocinante is a reference to Don Quixote (the name of his horse). IRL it's a reference to the Rush song Cygnus-X1 "On my ship the Rocinante, wheeling through the galaxies"
You mentioned the actor messing with the UI in his room - they let the actors do their own movements for those and did the CGI around it, so it would feel more natural
Eeehhh, sort of. There are basic notions discussed beforehand (pun intended) and a VFX Supervisor on set to guide the process. Directors (and sometimes DOPs) will also have input.
So, "puppeteering" is avoided as you want the actors to breathe life into the character and body language is part of it. However, if the script says "Character gestures to increase magnification" there is a basic gesture UI motion which is expected.
Obviously a lot of it is based on current gesture-control interfaces and schools of thought which, as we know, also uses customization tools for each user. Systems like the Rocinante's AI would be able to interpret and interpolate each user's tendencies.
As we see in Episode 9, which is just a full episode of the Space Scooby Gang calibrating the Roci to their control gestures while listening to audio books.
Kidding!
(AM I?)
funny you should mention like D&D levels, The Expanse book series actually started as a D&D roleplay style game, with the main Rocinante crew being the people playing the game! When the person who played Shed had to leave the game permanently, they decided to write his character off with a very dramatic ending :p
It also helps explain why, as you put it, the characters don't feel like they are able to handle the situation, because they all have kind of been thrown into the thick of it!
Not explained on the show but mentioned in the books: Anderson Dawes' was in fact named after Anderson station. When his parents named him it was meant to be like a moment of pride in this successful Belter mining station (something like that) and after it got destroyed, it naturally took on a very different connotation... works well for him, considering his position in the OPA.
Before it was an RPG, it was conceived as a video game.
Specifically D20 Modern
great quote from the books from miller's pov that describes the slippery slope of the solar system right now: "the canterbury had stripped away the complacency of the belt, but the donnager had done something worse, it had taken away the fear".
Another one: "Sooner or later, there would come a time when Mars wouldn't ignore it anymore, and when Mars took action, it wouldn't matter who blew up the canterbury, because nothing would matter, and Earth would inevitably get dragged in as well. Mars knew the belt couldn't win, and the belt knew it had nothing to lose."
Rocinante was Don Quixote's horse. Dulcinea (first episode title): also from Don Quixote. Not a coincidence. Anderson Dawes having the same name as Anderson Station is a coincidence that probably pisses him off, which is awesome.
The mystery - which unfolds and (ahem) expands - will reveal itself and you'll get it all, I promise, but with more questions, always more questions. What is Julie involved with? Where is she now? Who blew up the Cant and the Donnager? Naomi? "I know men like him," is legit Naomi backstory. Patience, grasshopper.
Outer Planets Alliance is everything outside of Earth and Mars, and has lots and lots of different factions.
Love that you had nothing to say but took like 20 minutes to say it 🤣😂🤣😂
Anderson & Anderson Station are "related", his parents named him to impress the Anderson Corp. (no joke), that build the Station.
The D&D comparison is apt since this was first developed as a board game then abandoned for the novel series and accompanying short stories.
The mystery is what’s up with that original ship and everyone on it and Julie.
I heard that’s why Shed died so early - the person who was role-playing as him decided to stop playing.
I see so many comments that the show kicks off at episode 4 but it really doesn't until probably episode 8. At the end of the first season is where you start to get glimmers of answers to all of your questions and they keep doing that until the first book finale which happens about season 2 episode 4 and 5 if my memory serves. That's when this show really gets moving. When people say this is the best show out there they aren't kidding but it takes some patience suspending your need to know all the answers early on. Just be patient and you will become a screaming firehawk like the rest of us.
Actually you caught it right. Anderson Dawes was named after the company that his parents worked for, Anderson-Hyosung Cooperative Industries Group. This company operated Anderson Station.
OPA - Outer Planets Alliance. Political alliance of Belter factions. That is what it is. You will slowly understand more. It is just starting.
You guys learned a lot from this episode, u just don't know it yet lol. Screaming Firehawks!
Last episode showed us lots of cool action, and provided a taste of things to come.
This episode moved the story forward, and you found out a lot more about Julie Mao and what drives her, as well as Miller's evolving feelings about her.
Miller's investigation definitely took center stage, this time; the stuff about Fred and the crew of the Rocinante mostly built up the foundation for future developments.
Honestly the Expanse is a experience , over the 6 seasons it does a marvelous job of world building to levels rarely seen in television. It often feels like watching the show is like reading a book where you go along with the characters on a journey learning first hand about what motivates the characters and the various factions involved
The best analogy that I have for the OPA is Sinn Féin and the IRA. There are a bunch of different factions who all claim they are part of the OPA. Some of them are humanitarian and civil groups, some are armed, and some are straight up terrorists. The lack of a central authority is one of the many issues that they are dealing with when trying to negotiate with the inner planets.
The outer planets are the belt and everything beyond it.
Clarus has it for the most part. I worked for a native American hospital, and non-natives that try to learn and understand the culture/language (without trying to 'become' a part of it, we had those too) are much appreciated by a large number of tribal members, elders especially.
The show like to show, don't tell. I do like the crew moving into the ship and giving it a name. Miller's story is the focus of this episode where he made a deal with Dawes and I don't know if you noticed but he did ditch the pad that Dawes gave him with the information on where the dude that pinned Havalok to the wall. I feel the talk between Miller and Dawes in the bar was very good in building what Dawes goal is. The mystery is what's Julie's story and who's wanting a war between Earth and Mars. They have some high tech stuff.
Rocinante is the name of Don Quixote's horse.
There are definitely factions in the Outer Planets Alliance. It's both a political body and a terrorist organization representing the asteroids and beyond (Mars comes before the Belt). It's meant to be evocative of the IRA, which tried to transition itself from a terrorist organization to a political group from the late 80s on, with a variety of splinter groups who wanted to be more militant, or more political, or every variation in between, which eventually were either absorbed or stamped out. Anderson Dawes (and Fred Johnson) are partially the public face of and spearheading the political arm of the OPA.
Naomi's backstory doesn't get fully revealed for a while, though.
I could be wrong, but don't think Havelock (Miller's partner) met the Belter girl he's learning signing and creole from before the fatal knifing incident that he and Miller investigated in an earlier episode. Also, you learned lots of things about the world this episode without even knowing that you did. Many tiny details or half lines gradually flesh out the story and some will only become relevant or resolved multiple seasons later. It's quite incredible writing.
It's as if there was a series of books written with fleshed out characters, backstories, plot lines, and story arcs ahead of time that this show used as its foundation? Unlike BSG which shot form the hip and had no fucking clue what they were going to do form one episode to the next.
@@surfeit5910 I wasn't certain about that with BSG until Dualla took a powder. The writers told on themselves in that moment. They didn't know where they were going any more than she did.
Yes, they showed why he went to her and that he was trying to learn belter and understand the culture. Not sure why he is confused about this.
@@surfeit5910 I often see comments along the line of "The Expanse is the best Sci-Fi show since BSG". I'm sure I'll upset some people here, but it makes me worry for humanity that anybody rates that show
The Expanse is set in the year 2350. Earths population is 30+ billion people. Mars has about 10 billion people. 100 million people live on Luna (Earth's Moon) and somewhere between 50 to 100 million people live in the Belt. And, the majority of all resources for comes from mining the belt.
That whole Butcher of Anderson Station subplot is from a novella of the same name.
They started releasing novellas in between each book and I highly recommend the audiobooks. There's a lot of interesting details in them that aren't ever spelled out directly in the show.
Green Ronin games published the RPG. It was developed as a potential mmo first, then became a homebrew tabletop game, then novels, and finally a show.
It's not explained in the series, but in the books is stated that Anderson Dawkes takes his name from the Anderson station. The fact that it's the exact same station that got butchered it's just a tragic coincidence... you'll see that later. :)
According to the novel Don Quijote De La Mancha by Miguel De Cervantes, Rocinante is described as a horse old and worn out but in the imagination of our hero Don Quijote it seemed to him that it was a horse of bearing and even more so that not even the horses of the greatest legends could match it. Rocín is a horse rough and dedicated to the work of plowing and transporting loads, hence the word "Workhorse". As an extra fact, our heroes in The Expanse have a Quijotic adventure where they are motivated by a strong sense of morality and in search of a better future, Don Quijote is characterized by having a distorted sense of reality but with a goal of justice, Holden could perfectly be a Don Quijote.
Loving your reactions.
I'm not one to talk about someone's looks, but I can't stop thinking Nerdy looks like if Kevin Klein and Seth Rogan had a baby.
“A show that broke our brains” That’s funny. It also broke Shed’s brain!
you guys better buckle up, you haven't even reached the 1/10 level of expanse craziness yet
Keep googling those science facts! Brings us all so much joy.
Screaming Firehawks is the name for the fandom ^^
God, I hate that name. I do NOT identify as a "Screaming Firehawk", even though this is probably my favorite series of the last decade. Far too college humour goofball fanboy nomenclature
@@DeathNRebirth I thought I'm alone... :) Thank you, beratna.
Jared Harris is amazing every time he steps on the screen.
Well, maybe not Lost In Space and The Mortal Instruments: City of Bones but that's not really his fault.
The Anderson Station stuff is based on Fred Johnson's backstory novella, The Butcher of Anderson Station.
Fun fact: the guy who plays Holden also played Warren Peace in Sky High!
Oh Holden and his earnestly furrowed brow 🤣
Coffee is indeed the drink of the gods. During this show (well, the books, really) is when I started calling dry pet food kibble. Everyone has secrets. Naomi’s is bigger than most.
I love the contrast between Frank Herbert's Dune which has an omniscient third a person narrator as opposed to The Expanse which has a limited first person narrator where the characters only learn what you as a viewer might learn.
The Outer Planets' Alliance says that they represent all human habitation other than "The Inners" (Earth and Mars), however, it is made up of more than a dozen factions, each with its own leader and agenda, which may not align with those of any other faction. Kind of like the Irish Revolutionary Army.
The original Star Trek shows used physical models for the ships, because computer CGI wasn't available back then. That limited the range of possible shots. Babylon 5 was the first space opera to use CGI and that opened up the full range of camera and ship movements which we enjoy today.
Having a lot of fun rewatching this show as you see it the first time. Woot!
Rocinante was the name of Don Quixote's horse
Just in case you think Fred's the bloke with the most normal name:
His full name is Frederick Lucius Johnson... the show has an Roman vibe, Mars is the early republic, Earth the late Empire...
You'll find a lot of people who have Roman names here - Miller's named "Josephus" Miller.
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The pace of this episode seems slow but if you binge, the pace is a nice break from eps 3 and 4. Also, i highly recommend a rewatch when you complete the series. so many things are carried through all 6 seasons.
The OPA is based on the colonies on asteriods in the belt and multiple bases on Jupiter and Saturn moons. These are generally all considered "Belter" by ethnicity, although Earth and Mars have a military presence on many of the colonies.
There are no colonies Sun side of Mars, apart from Luna and I think a couple of tiny bases on Mars' moons, all of which are under the direct control of Earth and Mars.
So from the Asteriod Belt out, that is considered belter territory (by the Belters and the OPA). Earth and Mars may hold a different view...
The OPA itself is considered the political arm of the Belt. It consists of dozens if not hundreds of factions, some of which call themselves OPA to gain recognition or legitimacy. Many of these are violent organisaions or flat out pirates. This leaves the OPA struggling to be recognised at a legitimate mouthpiece for the belt, as detractors will label the OPA a terrorist organisaion. There is no centralised power structure so nobody can really control its "membership". Essentially anyone who wants legitimacy with the Belt needs to be a part of this organisation, but in doing so loses any legitimacy with Earth or Mars. Anderson Dawes is considered one if its leaders, being the head of the OPA on Ceres (the largest colony in the belt).
The Expanse is like Attack on Titan, you'll get answers eventually, along with more questions. Just be patient.
Both are great shows who have authors who wrote good base work to adapt.
7:49 I've eaten at that place in Toronto, but damned if I can remember the name of it.
Rocinante is a character in Don Quixote.
The Expanse will always balance each low out with an equal high and vice versa. I don't know if it was a blessing or a curse because you'd reallly want that next high-octane action episode, but on the other hand, the rest of the season wouldn't hold up to something that front-heavy. So you just have to go along with the up and down roller coaster ride. Just wait until you actually see what Miller finds though..... it's well worth your time.
As you get more into the show I will warn you that Amos is probably one of the most thought out, authentic, and genuine characters to entire the Sci Fi genre. There's just so much about him you love to hate, and hate to love.
What happened to Julie Mao?
Who killed the Cant?
This episode is introducing a new character. The Rocinante!
They should have named it after the best named ship in all fiction: The Cornucopia Of Excellent Goods At Low Prices.
I'm partial to names from the Culture series, myself. e.g., "Ravished By The Sheer Implausibility Of That Last Statement"
Where you start to where you finish is mind blowing
This was really more of a character building episode than it was moving the plot forward. The two examples I'll use are observations Nerdy made.
First, yes, all of the clues Miller is finding are pointing off station. His supervisor closed the case as soon as he told her. Him continuing to follow leads tells us he's obsessed at this point. That he's incautious with his viewing habits let us know he's either a crappy cop or let himself go. Either way, why was he picked for a high profile case when he's obviously not that conspicuous?
The second is Amos being the only one to notice the incoming message. Out of the group, Amos is the only one who is hyper aware of his surroundings directly following a highly stressful escape and blackout. That he was still hyper aware with a compound fracture also tells us something.
Don't let any mean comments bother you, you guys are great and you'll enjoy what you enjoy. Art is subjective, period.
Also, once you learn more of Amos's back story the more you'll appreciate the ironic humor of the lady named Rocinante :)
Watch your spoilers, please.
The first part of your comment contains stuff that only happens in the next episode.
Great job on the edits love discovery and clues you’re finding. Keep grinding 😂
Some payoffs to what seem like throwaway lines don't actually reveal themselves until several seasons down the line. There's no such thing as wasted dialogue in this show.
I know him from my childhood as Warren Peace from Sky High😍
There are people who call James Holden "Space John Snow."
I feel like I said something along these lines in the previous episode. "Expanse" is not anything like the mediocre tripe that usually gets put out these days. It's the real deal. It's consummate storytelling. It won't coddle you. It won't spoonfeed anything to you. You're thrown into the deep end of the pool to fend for yourself along with all the characters. That's its genius. That's what makes it so gripping and so alive.
I actually think watching one episode a week does a disservice to the series. You’ll notice a better flow and you’ll be able to pick up on the more nuanced aspects of the show when you watch it as a whole. What may seem like a “slower episode” feels more dynamic when viewed in hindsight after finishing the season.
Perhaps you missed a vital line from episode 1. There are no laws on Ceres just cops
Forget Dilithium and antimatter, in the Expance ships are powered by Coffee
My favorite part of this episode was you rooting for Miller! Lol. It just tugged at my heartstrings.
Also, I want to explain that Earth and Mars are both Independent powers and basically govern the resources of the Belt.
And with this episode you've now been introduced to the name adopted by The Expanse fans. The Screaming Firehawks =)
When you know a bit more about Amos' past that woman being called "workhorse" will kinda hit different.
My take is that the OPA is the shows version of the IRA. That should shine a little light on them.
Neither Mars nor The Belt would survive without Earth, as both would starve to death. So yeah, Mars is no 1. military power but it can't exist without Earth. Not to mention poor Belt.
I called him Space Baruchel for WEEKS b/c I'm slow with names, but YES DUDE. 1000%
Have you really never seen "The Man of La Mancha?" So much here references that old, old story.
What's so funny is I've actually played Don Quixote in the musical, but I never read the book... You'd think I would know, but like a typical actor I only remember my lines and songs lol
The OPA is analogous to historical political factions like the IRA in Ireland, and the PLO in Palestine, who claim to speak for an oppressed minority without any means to actually find out if the majority of people they claim to represent even support their actions - most people in those types of situations are just trying to survive, and too often the actions of these groups does more harm than good because the "oppressors" don't bother to differentiate when retaliating. So as far as most people on Earth and Mars are concerned (i.e. the Inners), the OPA = all Belters
There are three mysteries in play. A shadow faction, Julie Mao, and what are they after.... Are they interconnected .... Stay tuned.
If you'd have see n the _Letterkenny_ episode with Jay Baruchel as "Hard Right Jay", you wouldn't have thought there was any resemblance.
Naomi is dropping hints, I'm breathless.
Just so you know, Tycho Station aka 'The Mormon Place' is not owned by the Mormons. Its an construction/engineering station run by Fred Johnson and the Mormons are paying them to build their giant Mormon spaceship.
I kind of think of the OPA as being a little bit like the real world IRA. While it's easy to think of it as a single organisation it's actually made up of various splinter groups that all want Belter independence but have varying ideas of how to go about it. Some OPA groups are violent extremists, some are more political and lots are are mixture of both.
Right now, you have little reason to, but trust in The Expanse. You'll get everything you're looking for and then some. The problem a lot of reactors run into with this show is that it is one of the most bingeable shows ever. Once it gets going it doesn't even really slow down and just keeps demanding you keep going. It will get pretty frustrating for y'all having to wait to react and film the next episode here relatively quickly.
Information heavy episode for sure but character building & laying the foundation for what's to come ...💚🇬🇧🌱
Welcome to the Rocinante!
This show is like a mix of Aliens and Game of Thrones but pay attention to Amos he is a broken man in many ways but also a fan favorite.
Miller IS a belter. lol
"High high of the last episode" is something you may say again again. Fun watching your reaction when I generally dislike reaction vids.