Definitely disagree with Ra, I have been playing exclusively Ra and empowering gives such a huge economy imo. He's difficult to play but that is what makes him fun. Rain could use a slight buff but if you fast farms it is insanely cheap and the cool down is very low. Plus 2x slingers techs, and spamming barracks units are insane when you go with Hoth. Axemen and Scarab spam is real.
I wanted to say the same thing here. Ra gets everything you showed here, as well as being the only faction that gathers berries as fast as hunt. This might not sound huge, but I'd argue its really useful early game. You can safely transition from berries first, get the first food eco upgrade and still be at home base getting hunt now!
As someone who pretty much just plays Egyptian and doesn't ever win this makes sense. Granted I'm terrible at RTS, but still, lol. Egyptian units are just ridiculously weak. Even with the slinger tech they're weak. And Migdol units are supposed to be powerful, but they're just so easy to beat with one counter unit.
i agree with everything but the slinger part haha. They are insane. Get like 20-30 slingers plus like 5-10 spearmen see what happens. Then come talk to me hahaha
Freyr’s passive should just be a 25% discount with a 50% increased research time. The way it is now its like the devs are trying too hard to make him different from the other Norse.
It's interesting though. I would like them to keep it but just buff him elsewhere. For example buffing his myth tech, buffing his classical age god (draugr & hillfort GP buff) and perhaps buffing his hill fort bonus.
Freyr definitely got hit by the nerfs but in right hands he can be A or S tier. The difficult part is that you have to play entirely different from the other gods and research upgrades way way earlier than the other gods in the game. Without right timing yeah he can be a disaster. Ulr is solid too not because the powers he has but the sunergy with later upgrades such as freyr dmg bonus on hill fort and hill fort units, feast of renown and the most important fact that you have to get multiple upgrades at the same time to make value for the passive
Solid list. I'd put the Greeks all down a notch. Zeus is the worst God at the moment. Poseidon and Hades are also not A. Centaur nerf, Heroes nerf and Tox nerf add up. Plus before that they weren't S tier, the centaur strat was already figured out. Thor is only S tier in my opinion, his economy is so much better than anyone else and both Freyja and Forseti are great. Loki and Odin are great too but their economy is much worse and Norse army has a problem with Egypt barracks style right now. Speaking of that, Ra and Set are A tier I think. The full barracks style is extremely good at the moment. in terms of the barracks style Ra and Set are almost the same I think, set's bonus are more obvious for it but Ra has such good eco he can do it just as good basically. Rest I kinda agree. Freyr is the big unknown for me still, not sure if he's just weak or misplayed.
Freyr is hard to rank I feel. Some players don't do well with him but there are players like Magic who make him look really strong. So he's not glaringly weak across all levels of play that's for sure.
It's just hard to gauge. The community is slow to figure out how to play certain stuff with some Gods just misplayed way more than others. Winrates aren't all too reliable because of that plus the fact there aren't many games played at all. That said I think Freyr should indeed just play raiding cav with Freyja mostly and not bother with the early hill fort. Hailstorm and rock giants in heroic do feel super good.
Dear muscle babe-mate, I swear odin is an A tier, not an S. S must signify a clear dominance in meta. Odin is simple and strong but not something busted. He is below gaia imo. Hades is also B imo.
In my opinion zeus need some small buff maybe in their infantry…..cavalry and archers for greeks are good but infantry for zeus are little underwhelming…..even myrmidons need some small buff , maybe all infantry are faster by 0,4 or plus more vs buildings something like that…..
man what are u smoke... locust is good bcs it ads 0.1 div dmg really xD? from 0.3 to 0,4 now deals dmg! I cant with this man, u shout so hard on ur last ra videos how Ra is bad and just by locust and slingers u put him from d to b wow so now we can understand what balanace mean slingers are understandable but 0,1 div dmg its nothing
Im confused on what you are saying. Do you think locust is still too weak? I put Ra a lot higher because slingers are insane right now with the two unique techs. But overall i still dont think he is very good. You cant really go through Osiris because Horus is just way better.
@@johnarbiter Yes i think locust is still too weak from all 3rd gp ancestors is still better with combo able eclipse than locust what will deal slighlty 0,1 div dmg and if we talk about Set tech/buffs and uprades he is the best among egypt and should be A tier while u put him only slighlty better than Ra where set should shine the most since he have acces to ptah and all of his major buffs buff all ur infantry and u can also go with horus completly ignore Thot while with Ra if u go with full infantry u lost ur 15% buff on migdol units. If we talk about economy food I can partially agree on that but with set gp he can find animals easier than Ra and since ur gp can be free u can have more food even if you use rain with Ra bcs you can use yours priest to charm and lure animals near tc where husbandry give you the most food per second but yeah with longer games Ra can outshine set with Rain but since all ranked games duration is 15/25 min You shouldn't worry about that while set can already finish the game. 17:58 Freyr and Set have the lowest playrate so i think only ppl who buy dlc or thinks set looks cool play them
I dont think I agree with this. I think Hades and Poseidon are very strong still. I can understand Zeus but Hades death ball of tox is insanely good and Poseidon's hips and mobility is also amazing.
Definitely disagree with Ra, I have been playing exclusively Ra and empowering gives such a huge economy imo. He's difficult to play but that is what makes him fun. Rain could use a slight buff but if you fast farms it is insanely cheap and the cool down is very low. Plus 2x slingers techs, and spamming barracks units are insane when you go with Hoth. Axemen and Scarab spam is real.
I wanted to say the same thing here. Ra gets everything you showed here, as well as being the only faction that gathers berries as fast as hunt. This might not sound huge, but I'd argue its really useful early game. You can safely transition from berries first, get the first food eco upgrade and still be at home base getting hunt now!
nice video!
As someone who pretty much just plays Egyptian and doesn't ever win this makes sense. Granted I'm terrible at RTS, but still, lol. Egyptian units are just ridiculously weak. Even with the slinger tech they're weak. And Migdol units are supposed to be powerful, but they're just so easy to beat with one counter unit.
i agree with everything but the slinger part haha. They are insane. Get like 20-30 slingers plus like 5-10 spearmen see what happens. Then come talk to me hahaha
I think they are supposed to be weaker than other pantheons, but cheaper and more spammable
Freyr’s passive should just be a 25% discount with a 50% increased research time. The way it is now its like the devs are trying too hard to make him different from the other Norse.
agreed. Its just way too slow for techs right now. Or maybe just half off still with 100% increase. 150% increase is soooo long.
It's interesting though. I would like them to keep it but just buff him elsewhere. For example buffing his myth tech, buffing his classical age god (draugr & hillfort GP buff) and perhaps buffing his hill fort bonus.
All Norse in S tier , except their ca$hDLC Freyr
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Freyr definitely got hit by the nerfs but in right hands he can be A or S tier. The difficult part is that you have to play entirely different from the other gods and research upgrades way way earlier than the other gods in the game. Without right timing yeah he can be a disaster. Ulr is solid too not because the powers he has but the sunergy with later upgrades such as freyr dmg bonus on hill fort and hill fort units, feast of renown and the most important fact that you have to get multiple upgrades at the same time to make value for the passive
Solid list.
I'd put the Greeks all down a notch. Zeus is the worst God at the moment. Poseidon and Hades are also not A. Centaur nerf, Heroes nerf and Tox nerf add up. Plus before that they weren't S tier, the centaur strat was already figured out.
Thor is only S tier in my opinion, his economy is so much better than anyone else and both Freyja and Forseti are great. Loki and Odin are great too but their economy is much worse and Norse army has a problem with Egypt barracks style right now. Speaking of that, Ra and Set are A tier I think. The full barracks style is extremely good at the moment. in terms of the barracks style Ra and Set are almost the same I think, set's bonus are more obvious for it but Ra has such good eco he can do it just as good basically.
Rest I kinda agree. Freyr is the big unknown for me still, not sure if he's just weak or misplayed.
Fair enough. I like your thought process. I’m still unsure on a lot of this. Need to get to 2k games now. Hahahaha
Freyr is hard to rank I feel. Some players don't do well with him but there are players like Magic who make him look really strong.
So he's not glaringly weak across all levels of play that's for sure.
It's just hard to gauge. The community is slow to figure out how to play certain stuff with some Gods just misplayed way more than others. Winrates aren't all too reliable because of that plus the fact there aren't many games played at all.
That said I think Freyr should indeed just play raiding cav with Freyja mostly and not bother with the early hill fort. Hailstorm and rock giants in heroic do feel super good.
Justice for Zeus when?
@@queldron hahaha
Dear muscle babe-mate, I swear odin is an A tier, not an S. S must signify a clear dominance in meta. Odin is simple and strong but not something busted. He is below gaia imo. Hades is also B imo.
@@anilkarakaya9343 you might be right. Gaia is crazy strong rn
So next balance patches should nerf norse and atlanteans, and buff freyr zeus and egyptians
How in the world did you manage to play 1000+ games?
No lifing the game cuz on break lol
In my opinion zeus need some small buff maybe in their infantry…..cavalry and archers for greeks are good but infantry for zeus are little underwhelming…..even myrmidons need some small buff , maybe all infantry are faster by 0,4 or plus more vs buildings something like that…..
I think hops should have 1.5x multiplier against cav instead of 1.25. They barely counter cav and in mass cav actually easily beat hops.
@@johnarbiter yes exactly and in top of that they nerfed sarissa range of athena tech lol , maybe buff it to give vs cav some bonus.
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man what are u smoke... locust is good bcs it ads 0.1 div dmg really xD? from 0.3 to 0,4 now deals dmg! I cant with this man, u shout so hard on ur last ra videos how Ra is bad and just by locust and slingers u put him from d to b wow so now we can understand what balanace mean slingers are understandable but 0,1 div dmg its nothing
Im confused on what you are saying. Do you think locust is still too weak? I put Ra a lot higher because slingers are insane right now with the two unique techs. But overall i still dont think he is very good. You cant really go through Osiris because Horus is just way better.
@@johnarbiter Yes i think locust is still too weak from all 3rd gp ancestors is still better with combo able eclipse than locust what will deal slighlty 0,1 div dmg and if we talk about Set tech/buffs and uprades he is the best among egypt and should be A tier while u put him only slighlty better than Ra where set should shine the most since he have acces to ptah and all of his major buffs buff all ur infantry and u can also go with horus completly ignore Thot while with Ra if u go with full infantry u lost ur 15% buff on migdol units. If we talk about economy food I can partially agree on that but with set gp he can find animals easier than Ra and since ur gp can be free u can have more food even if you use rain with Ra bcs you can use yours priest to charm and lure animals near tc where husbandry give you the most food per second but yeah with longer games Ra can outshine set with Rain but since all ranked games duration is 15/25 min You shouldn't worry about that while set can already finish the game. 17:58 Freyr and Set have the lowest playrate so i think only ppl who buy dlc or thinks set looks cool play them
Greeks are weak af, I’m not playing multiplayer till they are good
I dont think I agree with this. I think Hades and Poseidon are very strong still. I can understand Zeus but Hades death ball of tox is insanely good and Poseidon's hips and mobility is also amazing.
@@johnarbiter The hades simping needs to stop, he win rate is poor.