as a 1700+ player I think that there's no C or D tier gods right now cause even S tier gods can get bad matchups and lose hard. For example, Gaia hard losses to Loki and Freyr. Ra is definitely S tier since he can pretty much deal with any matchup, u can literally play against any gods and making either barrack plays or migdol units and u still gonna find wins. Thor is not B tier IMO cause he still can get ahead on villagers and early armory upgrades, so he just is more slow but he's always gonna be ahead as usual. Hades definitelly A tier, he have really good matchup into all eggy gods and atlanteans. Poseidon definitely not D tier cause u can pressure basically any civ with early harass while getting away with 2 tc. as a Freyr main, I have to say, it's a hard god to play, but it absolutely S tier in maps like WH, Marsh, Alfheim.... and Zeus absolutely S tier god in water maps, the 1 tc bronze push with hoplites peltast and resto it's hard to play against, as long as u are microing, it's a very hard strategy to defend against.
Agree. Your word in my mind :). Think S tier should be gods who are most flexible to any opponent AND map. Also think that "S" or "D" tier gods depends on the players elo Level. It is different if you only have one or some " buildorders" in your pocket or if you have the ability to be flexible in game and know how to use the gods different strength.
I agree with all of these. Gaia needs to be nerfed into the ground. She's stupid strong. The Greeks and Freyr need a large buff. Thor should be buffed a little. They nerfed him too hard. I'd make his armoury a bit cheaper, buff Frost Axes and make it an armoury upgrade, and rework Ragnorok a bit so the Heroes don't die so quickly
I agree with everything except Thor. I actually think Thor is pretty good right now just needs to be played differently. He gathers from dwarven gold mines super fast in heroic and mythic age. In the previous patch he didn’t since the buff for mining speed was bugged. I do agree with rag needing a bug tho. If you enjoyed the video make sure to sub means a lot!
I feel like both Gaia and Kronos have what it takes to be in S tier. Imo Oranos is the weakest of the three atlantean gods. Yeah sky passages are a nice thing to have but keep it mind it's limited to 5 at a time.
I think if you take away the two hero workers at the start will take Gaia down to a reasonable level. With her it’s tough because if you nerf her eco upgrades to hard she becomes the worst god in the game. Random player here with no real bias btw.
I can mostly agree with the tier list besides the greeks. You are definitely bias since you main them but thats not how it works :))) you would not have over 200 games with each of them greeks, the „D” and „C” tier gods on purpose if you know what i mean. They do have some nasty bad matchups but I dont think they are weak at all in the hands of the average player. Overall very well rounded civ, probably at only the highest of level they are not too good. But it is true that both the Vikings and Atlanteans dominate the ranked.
I play all Greek Thor loki, ra and Oranos. I can tell you with pretty high certainty that Greek is significantly weaker than the rest of the pantheons. I have way more success with other gods.
The nerfs have been pretty brutal to Greek though. And well they did tank in the genesis tournament. Between 15-20 good players I'd say that's a pretty good sample
@@teo9619 Alfheim is a boomy map, in the sense that is not easy to raid and be agressive on it, because its really closed. So boomier gods like freyr and hades work great on that map. More open maps like giza, ghost lake, blue lagoon work better for more aggro gods
@@teo9619 I said 'like alfheim'... which means other maps too But alfheim is the best imo because on watering hole & marsh you can lose if you your opponent take the middle, even if you boom better.
@@AllSportsAthletics I hated the current state of ra with slinger abuse so I didn’t use it. Also the games I played with ra during the beta didn’t count. I also had a Smurf where I used ra a lot.
removing it completely would be insane, gaia who is arguably the best god rn gets 40% only on eco upgrades. Getting 50% discount on eco, line, armory and any other kind of upgrade (from minor gods) for nothing would be crazy. But yeah maybe the 150% extra time is too much
@@Bu11yMagu1re I would probably change this tier list yet again. Odin really good with high hunt maps. Cuz he gathers hunt faster and has good great hall units. But overall I do think Thor is actually pretty good. I overestimated the nerds for Thor this patch
hell yea more quality aom content creators. Keep em coming
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I often forgot Odin had regen even before it got nerfed.
as a 1700+ player I think that there's no C or D tier gods right now cause even S tier gods can get bad matchups and lose hard. For example, Gaia hard losses to Loki and Freyr.
Ra is definitely S tier since he can pretty much deal with any matchup, u can literally play against any gods and making either barrack plays or migdol units and u still gonna find wins.
Thor is not B tier IMO cause he still can get ahead on villagers and early armory upgrades, so he just is more slow but he's always gonna be ahead as usual.
Hades definitelly A tier, he have really good matchup into all eggy gods and atlanteans.
Poseidon definitely not D tier cause u can pressure basically any civ with early harass while getting away with 2 tc.
as a Freyr main, I have to say, it's a hard god to play, but it absolutely S tier in maps like WH, Marsh, Alfheim....
and Zeus absolutely S tier god in water maps, the 1 tc bronze push with hoplites peltast and resto it's hard to play against, as long as u are microing, it's a very hard strategy to defend against.
Agree. Your word in my mind :). Think S tier should be gods who are most flexible to any opponent AND map. Also think that "S" or "D" tier gods depends on the players elo Level. It is different if you only have one or some " buildorders" in your pocket or if you have the ability to be flexible in game and know how to use the gods different strength.
Thanks for the tier list, btw hair is still there, video had to wait a while before being published :D
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At least gaias lush no longer prevents construction
@@stormeagle81x fair enough
I agree with all of these.
Gaia needs to be nerfed into the ground. She's stupid strong.
The Greeks and Freyr need a large buff.
Thor should be buffed a little. They nerfed him too hard. I'd make his armoury a bit cheaper, buff Frost Axes and make it an armoury upgrade, and rework Ragnorok a bit so the Heroes don't die so quickly
I agree with everything except Thor. I actually think Thor is pretty good right now just needs to be played differently. He gathers from dwarven gold mines super fast in heroic and mythic age. In the previous patch he didn’t since the buff for mining speed was bugged. I do agree with rag needing a bug tho. If you enjoyed the video make sure to sub means a lot!
I feel like both Gaia and Kronos have what it takes to be in S tier. Imo Oranos is the weakest of the three atlantean gods. Yeah sky passages are a nice thing to have but keep it mind it's limited to 5 at a time.
I think if you take away the two hero workers at the start will take Gaia down to a reasonable level. With her it’s tough because if you nerf her eco upgrades to hard she becomes the worst god in the game. Random player here with no real bias btw.
That might be a good tweak. I like it.
What about changing Freyr's passive like 30% cheaper upgrades but without any penalty
@@ChosenPL something like that could work. I think keeping it half off and making it 100% slower makes more sense to me though
I can mostly agree with the tier list besides the greeks. You are definitely bias since you main them but thats not how it works :))) you would not have over 200 games with each of them greeks, the „D” and „C” tier gods on purpose if you know what i mean. They do have some nasty bad matchups but I dont think they are weak at all in the hands of the average player. Overall very well rounded civ, probably at only the highest of level they are not too good. But it is true that both the Vikings and Atlanteans dominate the ranked.
I play all Greek Thor loki, ra and Oranos. I can tell you with pretty high certainty that Greek is significantly weaker than the rest of the pantheons. I have way more success with other gods.
The nerfs have been pretty brutal to Greek though. And well they did tank in the genesis tournament. Between 15-20 good players I'd say that's a pretty good sample
I think that Freyr is doing pretty good on maps like alfheim
Why alfheim. I know you heard this from boit saying he heard TheMista say this. But why? What is your logic
@@teo9619 Alfheim is a boomy map, in the sense that is not easy to raid and be agressive on it, because its really closed. So boomier gods like freyr and hades work great on that map. More open maps like giza, ghost lake, blue lagoon work better for more aggro gods
@@teo9619 what ? i didnt heard it from anybody its just from my experience, because its a boomy map and freyr is really good at booming.
@@looki3424 ok so why not marsh ? or watering hole some arguably even more boomy and defensive maps ?
@@teo9619 I said 'like alfheim'... which means other maps too
But alfheim is the best imo because on watering hole & marsh you can lose if you your opponent take the middle, even if you boom better.
Every time I watch these tier lists whoever is making them always places their favorite gods as mid or trash tier 🤔
Been playing this game 20 years, Greek are trash right now.
my favorite God is Ra lol
@@johnarbiter then why do you have 38 Ra games out of 1400 ranked games so far in retold? lol
@@AllSportsAthletics I hated the current state of ra with slinger abuse so I didn’t use it. Also the games I played with ra during the beta didn’t count. I also had a Smurf where I used ra a lot.
@@AllSportsAthletics my favorite unit in the game is the son of Osiris. So much fun to micro
lmao i will ruin you with poseidon 😂
@@mhendricks125 nah my zeus will win ez 😂or my Thor/loki. Poseidon sucks
Probably could just completely remove the downside from Frey'rs upgrade buff or decrease it to like 50% extra research time at most
Thats not a bad idea
removing it completely would be insane, gaia who is arguably the best god rn gets 40% only on eco upgrades. Getting 50% discount on eco, line, armory and any other kind of upgrade (from minor gods) for nothing would be crazy. But yeah maybe the 150% extra time is too much
@@ΑλέξηςΒαλσαμήςyeah probably not entirely but compare freyrs buffs to other Norse. It’s not even close imo
What makes Odin better than Thor?
@@Bu11yMagu1re I would probably change this tier list yet again. Odin really good with high hunt maps. Cuz he gathers hunt faster and has good great hall units. But overall I do think Thor is actually pretty good. I overestimated the nerds for Thor this patch
@@johnarbiterThey still seem too similar to me despite every best effort to separate them. Either one of them is inevitably labeled “Odin/Thor-Lite”.
Frey is only good at the endgame when there's no gold left and you keep reparing your fortresses
I agree freyr is really good
I played Gaia before she was cool :D
Hahahahaha