Yeah I really like how this channel does the map, nice and bright. My only constructive criticism would beat in some of the earlier videos some countries blue was similar to the sea, at least to my eyes but not in this vid.
@@Yh-kg8fr 🤣🤣🤣 To begin with, the video is about the Italian wars of the 16th century, so the comment that is out of place is yours. According to Global Firepower, Spain is ranked 17th in the world, so it's not weak at all. On the other hand, although it is true that the main nationality of immigrants is Magrabies, with just over 1 million people, there are more than 3 million Hispanic American immigrants who share language, religion and culture, so it is not true about the Muslim invasion when they only represent 2% of the population. Better go troll a sports video or online games, in the history ones they are going to make you look ridiculous.
@@Yh-kg8fr And does that mean he is wrong? We are talking about 500 years ago. PS: Spain is not weak and it is all of Europe that is being invaded by Muslims.
@@Yh-kg8fr That they were the most feared troops in Europe for almost 200 years, and defended the Catholic Church more than any other army. Glad I could help.
Lovely! I enjoyed every second. Got just two remarks, how in the beginning all separate Italian states have the same color, but I get it, and the AI generated character images xD the look great, I guess it's a personal bias. The music is spot on with your voice and tempo. Got a sub and a thumb good sir.
Together with Kings and Generals channel, this was an excellent walkthrough of this clusterf*ck war period which leaves everyone superconfused when reading about it.
I only realised that the channel doesn't have loads of subs O.o the content is legit good with a map that's so nice to follow with. Props on the quality and improvement.
Great summary. But you should've mentioned the recent discovery of America, which gave to some European countries (like Spain) momentum to get involved in such long lasting conflicts. Similarly, the relative decline of Italian cities is due to trade routes shifting away from the Mediterranean. So, yeah, some more context would give life to otherwise cold war reports.
15:05 That's not correct. Gunpowder weapons had been frequently used in Europe since the middle of the 14th century. Roughly 150 years before the Battle of Pavia.
As an Italian-American whose lineage is 100% Southern Italian, my biggest problem with the video was figuring out who to root for. Think we lost out any way you look at it.
As a historian myself, I have 1 piece of criticism for this video. After 1492, aragon didn't exist as an independent state/kingdom and didn't have the level of autonomy that you implied in this video. They were 100% annexed into spain by this time, but you constantly mentioned aragon as acting separately from spain during the wars, like they were in a personal union rather than annexed directly but this is not true, it was spain who did all that stuff as a sovereign kingdom and NOT aragon. Other than that,it's a great video. Everyone makes mistakes, and i understand that. Also, i know sources are rare. But that's a serious mistake, in my opinion. Especially since sources proving it are widely available.
it is true one would have to look into the life of queen Isabella of Castille who was dead by 1501 and had long ago already brought Aragon under her control via her marriage with Aragon's King Ferdinand and was also by law first monarch so yes Aragon was not independent when the italian wars started.
As a spaniard i dont agree at %100 with you, before the dead of ferdinand, he ruled aragon and as far as i know both of "catholic kings" ruled their kingdoms separetly, of course the follow the same interest, but both castille and aragon were legaly completly different with differents sistems of ruling, the taxes, laws but with some similarities of course, charles manage to centralize more the power becomimg one ruler but the sistems and the both crowns continued separeted and it wasnt until the bourbon when the dissband the aragons crown legal sistem with the "decreto de nueva planta"
Saying Spain instead of Castile says nothing good about you as a historian. Besides, until Decretos de Nueva Planta (1707-1716) Castile and Aragon were different kingdoms (Crowns actually)
@simarrosaurio as someone with a history and poly sci degree and loves history, I would never preface what I think is a factual statement by stating I am a historian
It is generally agreed by historians who wrote about this era that the Castilian and Aragonese rulers were technically acting on their own with the OK of the union. Under this premise, the kingdom of Naples was a Catalan Aragonese domain not officially claimed by Spain until Hapsburg took over
And if some of you are still wondering why we Europeans are done with religions and wars... Well, these well documented videos will show you why. Just to point out something very important: Since WW2 there has been an 80-Year peace in Western Europe: because of starting off with the Marshall-plan, forming the Benelux, forming the E.E.G. which all lead to forming the EU and yet despite all of this relatively peace...there have been wars is the Eastern European former Warsaw-pact countries on the Balkan in the 90s and now as we speak in Eastern European Ukraine. This part of the world (Western Europe) has never ever been so long without war, and yet war is taking place in Eastern Europe. So when this infantile senior citizen wishes to bring back war in the world by claiming Canada, Greenland and Panama; he proves he never should have been in the position he is in now: being the proud creator of WW3. Again; if this is a "friend", you do not need any enemies.
The entire world wants the resources under Greenland. Because of nuclear weapons and Because multiple rivals have them, conventional war will not happen, it will be resolved by trade agreements. If you have money on your land you can expect all the governments in the world to want to take it.
Thanks, and I'd love to get a picture of these political dynastic changes to the map of this period and add to it the economic picture. It seems that southern Italy continued declining in wealth. The wealth and economic activity of northern Italy began to decline, and Burgundy, Netherlands, Baltic Germans, and England began to dominate.
So while Italy was thinking about the Renaissance with great artists, scientists, scholars, navigators who indicated new trade routes, who set up the modern world, in the rest of Europe they were thinking about waging wars, and conquering Italy with the complicity of the Popes. Who knows why everyone wants to come to Italy and no one to Great Britain or Germany. The French are only Italians but more envious than us....ahahahahah
8:45 "The Austrian briefly captured Padua, but lost it due to a rebellion by the townspeople". I've found zero evidence of this "rebellion by the townspeople" against Austria in the 16th century, and I believe this is a mixup with a rebellion of the Padua townspeople against Austrian rule in 1848.
As usual the French always starting stuff. They could have just left Italy alone from the beginning, but NOOO they had to march all the way to Naples and insult everyone along the way.
People keep mixing up the Kingdom of Aragon and the Crown of Aragon. The Crown of Aragon was made up of the Principality of Catalonia, the Kingdom of Aragon, the Kingdom of Valencia and the Kingdom of Majorca; the leading state being the Principality of Catalonia. There was no single overall capital; but, in practice, the main capital was Barcelona, not Saragosse. The Kingdom of Sicily and the Kingdom of Naples were part of the Crown of Sicily (or the Crown of the Two Sicilies). A crown setup by the House of Barcelona, sovereigns of the Crown of Aragon. Likewise, you should not confuse the Kingdom of Castille with the Crown of Castille and Leon. In the video, "Kingdom of Aragon" should be replaced with "Crown of Aragon" and show no overall capital city. And "Kingdom of Castille" should be replaced with "Crown of Castille and Leon".
The battle of fornovo was a tactical victory for the italian league. although the french had some italian duchies on their side they were stopped and forced to flee. so much so that their booty taken from the treasury of the kingdom of naples ended up all in italian hands.
It is a bizarre choice to mark the capital of Aragon as Zaragoza! although it was the capital of the corresponding kingdom, the Crown of Aragon had been ruled from Barcelona for centuries, and briefly in the 15th century from Valencia! In the same way, mentioning that the Borgia family were Catalan, Valencian, or from the Crown of Aragon might impress harder upon viewers the degree to which Aragon and then Spain were intertwined and invested in Italian matters.
It is not a bizarre thing. The court of the crown of Aragon (the "government apparatus") was established in Zaragoza, Cuenca, Valencia, Pamplona or Barcelona in different periods to say the least, but Zaragoza was the government center the longest. The capital was basically where the king sits. The whole concept was not like today. On the other hand, it is politically trendy today to enhance and highlight the importance that Barcelona had back in the day. Was it important back then? Yes. Was it like what most official version state? No at all.
@NoName-hg6cc Italians here a constantly switching side just like in ww1 or ww2. Alfonso the Duke of Ferrara even ordered his cannons to be fire on his Spanish "enemies" and French "allies" during the battle deliberately.
Damn the map design is amazing ngl
Other channels dont have tgis quality.
Yeah I really like how this channel does the map, nice and bright.
My only constructive criticism would beat in some of the earlier videos some countries blue was similar to the sea, at least to my eyes but not in this vid.
The Tercios were the most fearful troops in Europe for almost 200 years, defended the Catholic church more than any other army.
And today spain is weak and over run by Muslims so what is your point 😂
@@Yh-kg8fr 🤣🤣🤣
To begin with, the video is about the Italian wars of the 16th century, so the comment that is out of place is yours.
According to Global Firepower, Spain is ranked 17th in the world, so it's not weak at all.
On the other hand, although it is true that the main nationality of immigrants is Magrabies, with just over 1 million people, there are more than 3 million Hispanic American immigrants who share language, religion and culture, so it is not true about the Muslim invasion when they only represent 2% of the population.
Better go troll a sports video or online games, in the history ones they are going to make you look ridiculous.
@@Yh-kg8fr there are many more muslims in france, britain, germany or sweden than in spain
@@Yh-kg8fr And does that mean he is wrong? We are talking about 500 years ago. PS: Spain is not weak and it is all of Europe that is being invaded by Muslims.
@@Yh-kg8fr That they were the most feared troops in Europe for almost 200 years, and defended the Catholic Church more than any other army. Glad I could help.
One of the best Italian Wars videos on YT. These events can be hard to keep track of but you guys did great work!
How the French felt after starting 1241 "Italian Wars": 🗿
lo bene erano ladri come gli spagnoli e gli svizzeri, , noi italiani male
this is my new favourite history channel
Same as me.
The only channel that has this type of graphic quality and doesnt bofe me like other historytuber channels.
Yeah I watched all their videos ^o^.
@gemto4378 what about epic history
Their amazing as well, as well as Kings and Generals and Invicta@@youthberktempest
Enjoying your channel 👍
It would have sucked to be a map maker in the 1500's 😁
Another interesting and well made vid thank you
Lovely! I enjoyed every second. Got just two remarks, how in the beginning all separate Italian states have the same color, but I get it, and the AI generated character images xD the look great, I guess it's a personal bias. The music is spot on with your voice and tempo. Got a sub and a thumb good sir.
Together with Kings and Generals channel, this was an excellent walkthrough of this clusterf*ck war period which leaves everyone superconfused when reading about it.
Love your content! Thanks For this ❤❤❤❤
Cheers for the overall graphic design in your vids.
I only realised that the channel doesn't have loads of subs O.o the content is legit good with a map that's so nice to follow with. Props on the quality and improvement.
And the french wonder why everyone hates them...
European History is beautiful ❤️ thank you for your content
Great summary. But you should've mentioned the recent discovery of America, which gave to some European countries (like Spain) momentum to get involved in such long lasting conflicts. Similarly, the relative decline of Italian cities is due to trade routes shifting away from the Mediterranean. So, yeah, some more context would give life to otherwise cold war reports.
9:46 Julius II the Pope really using excommunication to grab more lands for himself... Definitely one ambitious and aggressive Holiness...
Unholiness exactly
16th century's Battle Royale.
15:05 That's not correct. Gunpowder weapons had been frequently used in Europe since the middle of the 14th century. Roughly 150 years before the Battle of Pavia.
I love how this parallels Greek city states and the Roman Empire.
Your maps are so beautiful.
A well-made video with great content, thank you!
These wars sound interesting, but I hope never to repeat.
As an Italian-American whose lineage is 100% Southern Italian, my biggest problem with the video was figuring out who to root for. Think we lost out any way you look at it.
As a historian myself, I have 1 piece of criticism for this video. After 1492, aragon didn't exist as an independent state/kingdom and didn't have the level of autonomy that you implied in this video. They were 100% annexed into spain by this time, but you constantly mentioned aragon as acting separately from spain during the wars, like they were in a personal union rather than annexed directly but this is not true, it was spain who did all that stuff as a sovereign kingdom and NOT aragon. Other than that,it's a great video. Everyone makes mistakes, and i understand that. Also, i know sources are rare. But that's a serious mistake, in my opinion. Especially since sources proving it are widely available.
it is true one would have to look into the life of queen Isabella of Castille who was dead by 1501 and had long ago already brought Aragon under her control via her marriage with Aragon's King Ferdinand and was also by law first monarch so yes Aragon was not independent when the italian wars started.
As a spaniard i dont agree at %100 with you, before the dead of ferdinand, he ruled aragon and as far as i know both of "catholic kings" ruled their kingdoms separetly, of course the follow the same interest, but both castille and aragon were legaly completly different with differents sistems of ruling, the taxes, laws but with some similarities of course, charles manage to centralize more the power becomimg one ruler but the sistems and the both crowns continued separeted and it wasnt until the bourbon when the dissband the aragons crown legal sistem with the "decreto de nueva planta"
Saying Spain instead of Castile says nothing good about you as a historian. Besides, until Decretos de Nueva Planta (1707-1716) Castile and Aragon were different kingdoms (Crowns actually)
@simarrosaurio as someone with a history and poly sci degree and loves history, I would never preface what I think is a factual statement by stating I am a historian
It is generally agreed by historians who wrote about this era that the Castilian and Aragonese rulers were technically acting on their own with the OK of the union. Under this premise, the kingdom of Naples was a Catalan Aragonese domain not officially claimed by Spain until Hapsburg took over
HOW DO YOU MAKE YOUR MAPS THEY ARE AMAZING!!!
We need a new historical Total War game set in this era.
You should try the Tsardoms mod for Medieval 2 Total War.
@@Rall707 Go play Europa Universalis instead. Set in the renassaince and discovery eras
Europa universalis is your game
And if some of you are still wondering why we Europeans are done with religions and wars... Well, these well documented videos will show you why. Just to point out something very important: Since WW2 there has been an 80-Year peace in Western Europe: because of starting off with the Marshall-plan, forming the Benelux, forming the E.E.G. which all lead to forming the EU and yet despite all of this relatively peace...there have been wars is the Eastern European former Warsaw-pact countries on the Balkan in the 90s and now as we speak in Eastern European Ukraine. This part of the world (Western Europe) has never ever been so long without war, and yet war is taking place in Eastern Europe. So when this infantile senior citizen wishes to bring back war in the world by claiming Canada, Greenland and Panama; he proves he never should have been in the position he is in now: being the proud creator of WW3.
Again; if this is a "friend", you do not need any enemies.
The entire world wants the resources under Greenland.
Because of nuclear weapons and Because multiple rivals have them, conventional war will not happen, it will be resolved by trade agreements.
If you have money on your land you can expect all the governments in the world to want to take it.
Medici family was incredibly powerful
Great video, though does anyone else crack up when you hear screams after an attack? 😅
21:25- It is ceresole
Thanks, and I'd love to get a picture of these political dynastic changes to the map of this period and add to it the economic picture. It seems that southern Italy continued declining in wealth. The wealth and economic activity of northern Italy began to decline, and Burgundy, Netherlands, Baltic Germans, and England began to dominate.
I believe the Italian wars truly mark the end of the Medieval Era.
The Mediterranean Sea for Aragón and the Athlantic Ocean for Castille
The Papacy was the worst. The League against Venice - unforgivable. How the Farnese carved a state out of nothing into Milanese domains - ditto.
So while Italy was thinking about the Renaissance with great artists, scientists, scholars, navigators who indicated new trade routes, who set up the modern world, in the rest of Europe they were thinking about waging wars, and conquering Italy with the complicity of the Popes. Who knows why everyone wants to come to Italy and no one to Great Britain or Germany. The French are only Italians but more envious than us....ahahahahah
8:45 "The Austrian briefly captured Padua, but lost it due to a rebellion by the townspeople". I've found zero evidence of this "rebellion by the townspeople" against Austria in the 16th century, and I believe this is a mixup with a rebellion of the Padua townspeople against Austrian rule in 1848.
the video lacks in accuracy in historical terms, but is attractive in visual ones. thats sad.
As usual the French always starting stuff. They could have just left Italy alone from the beginning, but NOOO they had to march all the way to Naples and insult everyone along the way.
7:21 Alexander VI, sixth not fourth
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People keep mixing up the Kingdom of Aragon and the Crown of Aragon.
The Crown of Aragon was made up of the Principality of Catalonia, the Kingdom of Aragon, the Kingdom of Valencia and the Kingdom of Majorca; the leading state being the Principality of Catalonia. There was no single overall capital; but, in practice, the main capital was Barcelona, not Saragosse.
The Kingdom of Sicily and the Kingdom of Naples were part of the Crown of Sicily (or the Crown of the Two Sicilies). A crown setup by the House of Barcelona, sovereigns of the Crown of Aragon.
Likewise, you should not confuse the Kingdom of Castille with the Crown of Castille and Leon.
In the video, "Kingdom of Aragon" should be replaced with "Crown of Aragon" and show no overall capital city.
And "Kingdom of Castille" should be replaced with "Crown of Castille and Leon".
The battle of fornovo was a tactical victory for the italian league. although the french had some italian duchies on their side they were stopped and forced to flee. so much so that their booty taken from the treasury of the kingdom of naples ended up all in italian hands.
1526 the French called for the Sultan to invade Hungary and create problems for the Hapsburgs in the east ...
Yeap. The French did exactly that, and some other thing alike.
We all know who fought the Borgia.
16:04 mark. Pope Clement VII.. not VIII. I got you fam
4:49 With the Castilians you may say…
16:51 In the heart of holy see
In the home of Christianity
The seat of power is in danger
France casually kicking everyone's ass
You mean Europe kicking France's ass over and over again lol
Spain and austria kicked France out of Italy
You did not watch the video😭
France literally lost the Italian Wars. Have you seen the video?
France never won in this period.
They lost at Fornovo too
And they say the Pope was divine and closer to God then the plebian humans.
A Fornovo French retired during the night, leaving loots and everything 😂
It is a bizarre choice to mark the capital of Aragon as Zaragoza! although it was the capital of the corresponding kingdom, the Crown of Aragon had been ruled from Barcelona for centuries, and briefly in the 15th century from Valencia!
In the same way, mentioning that the Borgia family were Catalan, Valencian, or from the Crown of Aragon might impress harder upon viewers the degree to which Aragon and then Spain were intertwined and invested in Italian matters.
It is not a bizarre thing. The court of the crown of Aragon (the "government apparatus") was established in Zaragoza, Cuenca, Valencia, Pamplona or Barcelona in different periods to say the least, but Zaragoza was the government center the longest. The capital was basically where the king sits. The whole concept was not like today. On the other hand, it is politically trendy today to enhance and highlight the importance that Barcelona had back in the day. Was it important back then? Yes. Was it like what most official version state? No at all.
I wish we were still broken up into a bunch of tiny city-states/proto-states. The hegemony of larger states on progress is super shitty
You mean the Largest Conflict of the 16th century "in Europe". Japanese invasion of Korea in 1592 involved at least 0.3 million men.
Aren't you glad you weren't Italian in the16th century?
"SIGH".... time to play EU4 i guess
This animal seems like a very bad idea
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I see that the meme of Italians switching side had in roots in this wars.
What do you mean?
@NoName-hg6cc
Italians here a constantly switching side just like in ww1 or ww2. Alfonso the Duke of Ferrara even ordered his cannons to be fire on his Spanish "enemies" and French "allies" during the battle deliberately.
@ Italians didn't switch in either WWs.As fot Alfonso: source for what you say?
Game of thrones!
Age of France.
In general France lost the Italian war(s) as a whole.
@@raphtube75 French territory in 1559 is larger than in 1494.
@@lahire4943 Yes it is. That brought certain balance to the whole situation.
Algorithm
Largest conflict in 16th century was Mughal-Sur war and Mughal Invasion of Bengal.
warrior Pope is an oxymoron, highlighting the utter hypocricy of religion.
Or rather, that of men. Because religion is objective, man is sometimes incongruous.
AI slop
Surprise, surprise; the Pope was the big bad. 😂
Funny way to spell fr*nce