Skipping the grind with money | Asmongold Reacts

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  • @Funadin
    @Funadin ปีที่แล้ว +4057

    Viva la dirt league is an amazing channel and I'm glad Asmongold is discovering it.

    • @gandalftheswoll519
      @gandalftheswoll519 ปีที่แล้ว +116

      Ikr, he should definitely react to more of their skits , they're amazing!

    • @buenoloco4455
      @buenoloco4455 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      I agree, lots of good sketch and funny videos

    • @Funadin
      @Funadin ปีที่แล้ว +18

      ​@@gandalftheswoll519 It is a big treasure chest of content for Asmongold. I've watched nearly all of their videos and I've enjoyed every single one. I suggest watching their Among Us play together series if you haven't watched it yet. It is not very easy to come across but it is pretty good.

    • @williamdonaldson1686
      @williamdonaldson1686 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Been watching them for a while now.

    • @thecake122
      @thecake122 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I can't believe I watched their entire 2-4 hours videos 😂😂 i love viva.

  • @kilura9459
    @kilura9459 ปีที่แล้ว +2022

    ''your accomplishments in real life do not carry over into the game, thats like the hole point of it for a lot of people'' wise words

    • @AKARazorback
      @AKARazorback ปีที่แล้ว +32

      You know it's not a real game BECAUSE THE CHICK HER SET MATCHES AND ACTUALLY LOOKS GOOD. Most ingame sets always look shite, same in WoW classic. Yeah it was cool seeing what people had accomplished, but it all looked like shite.
      Cosmetics ONLY is FINE. And furthermore with transmogging in wow it actually still let's you farm for mogs you want. That's great, more games need that.

    • @jimmydvidiot
      @jimmydvidiot ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Best part of games...the respawn. Real life death is the end. In game your out a little progress. Games are better.

    • @Haveuseenmyjetpack
      @Haveuseenmyjetpack ปีที่แล้ว +26

      Whole

    • @bellissimo4520
      @bellissimo4520 ปีที่แล้ว +51

      Possibly more important than that - your FAILURES in real life do not carry over into the game...

    • @Bones_
      @Bones_ ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Really is a fantastic point. The masses that flock to games enjoy immersing in a world where their time and talents net them a sense of progression and accomplishment that they are not getting from the unrewarding grind of the real world. Only to have companies put in pay to win and paid cosmetics that outclass the earned rewards and give you a constant reminder that your efforts mean nothing when compared to your lack of money in the real world, and just like that back to reality.
      The companies that make these kinds of additions are driven by greed, probably at the protest of the actual game developers. They are the cancer of the industry and even while making profits they will rot away any kind of good will and passion from players until they've killed off whatever following they had, slowly but surely.

  • @Drragnorr
    @Drragnorr ปีที่แล้ว +366

    Seeing someone in cool looking armor, before the microtransactions took over, was motivating for me. Good times.

    • @larryjohnson3087
      @larryjohnson3087 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      Diablo 2. Having glowing armor sets. Or seeing someone come into your game with one.

    • @gabrieln8003
      @gabrieln8003 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      For me it was seeing someone in a lobby with G rank gear in Monster Hunter 4 ultimate. It actually gave me motivation to grind Hunter Ranks

    • @mathieus.1851
      @mathieus.1851 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      It was motivating to quit your job to be able to farm 24/7 ^^

  • @FortunePayback
    @FortunePayback ปีที่แล้ว +348

    I really hope Asmongold goes on a Viva La Dirst league binge now! Been following these guys for a few years now, and I absolutely LOVE all of their content!

    • @justicedemocrat9357
      @justicedemocrat9357 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Who the hell is Vava La Dirst Legue?

    • @beastmode2990
      @beastmode2990 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@justicedemocrat9357 check them out they do amazing videos

    • @RajeshJustaguy
      @RajeshJustaguy 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      I did not realise he does not know them! OMG lol i love those Karen clips..

    • @shootermcgavin7526
      @shootermcgavin7526 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      See the one where a robber tries to steal a Mac to game on? One of the funniest I have seen by that crew.

    • @skydriver5709
      @skydriver5709 8 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Would be cool to see Asmond in a future episode of Epic NPC man as a guest.

  • @James__Games
    @James__Games ปีที่แล้ว +377

    “You can tell this is not really a video game…. Because they’re armor isn’t a metal bikini.”
    Asmon, you gotta watch the rest of these, they make that joke in their early seasons

    • @CS-ft6by
      @CS-ft6by ปีที่แล้ว +46

      @@F4c2a Clearly you haven't played any asian MMO like Lost Ark lmao

    • @DrDipsh1t
      @DrDipsh1t ปีที่แล้ว +7

      obviously the bikini-mail is a microtransaction cosmetic. lol

    • @MrKing-qd7gi
      @MrKing-qd7gi ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@F4c2a I'm ok with there being less bikini armor in games for the sake of realism and practicality, however I'm not liking the trend of removing it (and other things) for THE MESSAGE.

    • @lipeelix
      @lipeelix ปีที่แล้ว +18

      they also remade that joke last week, but with male exposing gear instead of female bc the guy wanted her to use a bikini again. The pain in Alan's eyes was palpable xD

    • @belegur8108
      @belegur8108 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@MrKing-qd7gi better use "replacing them with other armor" than "removing the bikini" because it could lead to PG18 territory :)

  • @P2J2
    @P2J2 ปีที่แล้ว +259

    The problem that this has become is that developers are creating absurd grinds now that incentivize just buying the rewards instead. Pay-for-convenience is just as destructive to a games integrity as pay-to-win.

    • @spectralassassin6030
      @spectralassassin6030 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      Yep. Want to look cool? You can pay us to get it easy or spend hours or days for the CHANCE to get it. They do this on purpose to. Like the AC Odyssey "time savers." They purposely made the grind annoying so that you'd be incentivized to buy microtransactions. Then you got the people who defend it saying, "Well you can get it all by playing the game so I don't see what the problem is." The problem is they made the grind so annoying so that people with not a lot of time on their hands will be incentivized to buy the bullcrap just so they can actually play the game. It's a damn scam.

    • @Borsecann
      @Borsecann ปีที่แล้ว +32

      Yup, this is why the "Create a problem, sell the solution" is at the core of most games in modern times. Why try to guess the market demand when you can just create it (Pretty sure this is at the core of many real life companies/wallstreet things/etc.)
      And it's just getting easier as younger generations are conditioned that it's normal and just accept it.

    • @godw1ll99
      @godw1ll99 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      new world is a prime recent example.

    • @Haruka_May
      @Haruka_May ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@spectralassassin6030 As shitty as it is I'd still love to see more MMOs offer at least that. Just about every big one has cosmetics/emotes/mounts/etc. that are only obtainable behind a paywall.

    • @IISuzakuII
      @IISuzakuII ปีที่แล้ว +4

      The fact that people think grinding back then wasn't absurd is hilarious.

  • @ClickBeetleTV
    @ClickBeetleTV 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +78

    "Nobody needs an excuse because nobody needs your permission" is exactly correct

  • @ArtoMcBaddass
    @ArtoMcBaddass ปีที่แล้ว +29

    Accomplishments in game used to mean something though. I remember grinding arena in BC to get the gladiator's shoulders. As soon as I hit that benchmark and was walking around in full gladiator, the amount of alliance that would fuck with me while picking herbs or grinding essences dropped dramatically. People would see that a full set of gladiator and rightfully so, would simply take a detour. The ones that didn't know what a gladiator looked like would hit you with a small pew pew, you'd turn around and club them for a 6k white crit and they'd learn very quickly "i'm never going to fuck with a guy who looks like that ever again" Your aesthetics in game would strike fear into the enemy faction, and would make you a hero among your peers.

    • @HAYDS510
      @HAYDS510 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      This was what I played for. They took it away and made games just.. a totally bland interface with no need for input

  • @ZS-bg7jo
    @ZS-bg7jo ปีที่แล้ว +942

    Under-rated action there: going back for the sponsor shout out. Respect for that.
    The series are totally worth watching. VLDL have some really good skits. More exposure and more support means more great content

    • @Ecliptor.
      @Ecliptor. ปีที่แล้ว +9

      More exposure? Bro, they have 4 times more subs than asmon's clip channel lol

    • @tctrickshot
      @tctrickshot ปีที่แล้ว +16

      i work for viva la dirt so good to see asmong watching it

    • @shadeitplease7383
      @shadeitplease7383 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@tctrickshot lmao the npc d&d campaign is amazing and Rob is an incredible DM lol

    • @UnremarkableViqui
      @UnremarkableViqui ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@Ecliptor. You realize he watched this live on his Twitch channel too right?

    • @Ecliptor.
      @Ecliptor. ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@UnremarkableViqui yes, what's your point?

  • @cool-lemon
    @cool-lemon ปีที่แล้ว +194

    What made MMORPG's so great was that it didn't matter who you were IRL. The game didn't care if you were rich, the game didn't care if you were born with any kind of defects, the game didn't care if you had a stable or unstable upbringing. We were all placed into a world where our IRL stories didn't matter, and we could work hard to become something we probably never could be IRL. Buying cosmetics, mounts, etc., has completely ruined the whole purpose of an MMORPG.

    • @chasemartin5777
      @chasemartin5777 ปีที่แล้ว +46

      Exactly. If I wanted a world where money is the only thing that matters and those without it have to do mindless work for hours just to get a fraction of what people with money can get, I wouldn't need to play a videogame.

    • @sethiddings7293
      @sethiddings7293 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      It has a new purpose, domination through capital. People like dominating others and will pay for the privilege. Sad :(

    • @rodrickstark8516
      @rodrickstark8516 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Then game companies figured out that more money = better
      Sad times ahead

    • @ZenosOsgorma
      @ZenosOsgorma ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@seanwilliams7655 that's just simply making adult choices. But I can't blame irresponsible adults from buying digital goods on a game they already paid $60-80 for, if it saves them time but then not have enough to go out.
      We had the same issues back when wow first came out but the majority of us didnt make irresponsible purchases.
      We worked, gamed as much as possible in free time to save money, rather than go to restaurants etc then use that money for IRL meet ups, conventions or go to a guild meet up renting a entire cabin for the week, me personally roamed woodlands and ventured Icelandic fishing villages as a meet up holiday rather than buy pointless digital weapons, you will eventually get anyway using in game money from just grinding.
      Main point is it seems each generation is getting more impatient, a bit of it is making irresponsible decisions when it comes to IRL fiance choices.
      Me tbh I'd rather save the $50-100 a month and use it for a IRL meet up, we all have different ways of socialising but asmond said the normies don't care, they'll just treat it like going to a expensive store arcade and blow through all their quarters.

    • @optimumpride7057
      @optimumpride7057 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Mehhhhh MMORPG is the start of WHALES dont lie to your self. Ragnarok online i think is the 1st MMORPG. And no matter how hard you grind people especially the whales will and will always eat your effort up

  • @UsernameNotTaken2
    @UsernameNotTaken2 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +41

    I played runescape and maplestory as a kid.
    Runescape wise, I honestly remember the pure awe of seeing some in gold trim armour and deciding to try and get it with a few friends. It weirdly felt like a part of the goal in the game and made it a lot of fun. Whenever I saw someone with that armour I remembered chatting to friends and having a good time.
    Maplestory, I was a kid with no income. Some adults were showing off their armor to me saying it was cheap and I just really didnt care.
    The only way I'd of managed to get that armour would be to ask parents for money. When I actually made money I still kinda just shrug at cosmetics as theres no real meaning behind it.
    I'll buy something nowadays to support a game that I think does things fairly but I do think a lot of games are missing that element of 'Wow, that armour has a story to it'

    • @nathanhendrickson790
      @nathanhendrickson790 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Honestly when I play destiny I only ever get season passes and expansions I don’t spend a penny in the store if I do it’s in the bright dust market

    • @Black-nf3tx
      @Black-nf3tx 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Or even just in Call of Duty. Seeing someone with whatever the max level camo was at the time or max prestige made me want to either play better in the lobby to show off or try to grind for it myself. Now its just people buying a $20 Nikki Minaj skin and twerking on you as they kill you while the grind camos look worse than store ones. They removed prestiging to flex your level all together. So bland that I haven't bought a CoD since the shitshow that was MW 2019 when I've been playing the series since 2011-2012

  • @Memphis_ritz
    @Memphis_ritz ปีที่แล้ว +27

    One thing i would point out though as someone who just started out in a new mmo, anyone being able to buy cosmetics makes it really difficult to tell who i should or shouldn’t listen too when it comes to game advice.

  • @Sp33LzZz
    @Sp33LzZz ปีที่แล้ว +92

    I think another issue is that a lot of stuff you get for free nowadays is lame, locked behind ridiculous grind requirements, and a lot of paid cosmetics are timed exclusives which leads to gaming culture where if you don’t pay extra you basically play the demo version of the game

    • @SDREHXC
      @SDREHXC 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      “Cosmetics only” is just code for “all our in game stuff is boring looking compared to the cool ass shit you can buy” at least half the time.
      Sure it’s a way to monetize without affecting gameplay but it feels kinda shitty nonetheless.

  • @Draugo
    @Draugo ปีที่แล้ว +253

    I hope Asmon will watch more VLDL. They make amazing videos and deserve every boost they get.

    • @chrisregimbal2073
      @chrisregimbal2073 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Their production values are better than alot of Netflix shows

    • @dazza761
      @dazza761 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yeah lol. Their speed-runner video was awesome.

    • @troybarber4475
      @troybarber4475 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Yes! I saw that he reacted and was thinking the same thing!

    • @Ecliptor.
      @Ecliptor. ปีที่แล้ว +3

      They're almost on 5 million subs lol

    • @Evija3000
      @Evija3000 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Ecliptor. Not enough.

  • @mr_bliss1807
    @mr_bliss1807 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I think part of the problem is that not only can you purchase strong items in game but they're better then the top end items you can grind for in the game

  • @NeutralGloomBot
    @NeutralGloomBot ปีที่แล้ว +57

    This is hands down one of my favorite channels. Anyone else chuckle a bit when he brought up bikini mail armor for women? Gotta find that Britt video now 😂

    • @deeendee7162
      @deeendee7162 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Just search for "VLDL female armor" ;)

    • @nopenope5042
      @nopenope5042 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Yea I was like bruhhhh you clearly haven’t given VLDL a proper spin, they covered this exactly how he said a whillllle ago haha.

  • @Dingdongjermm
    @Dingdongjermm ปีที่แล้ว +701

    I sure hope Asmon checks out more of Viva La Dirt Leagues stuff, they're amazing

    • @TheJordanK
      @TheJordanK ปีที่แล้ว +42

      The production quality of their videos is better than some Netflix adaptions 😂

    • @papatatertot
      @papatatertot ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Especially the episode where she 1st gets the breastplate armor!...

    • @kissme1518
      @kissme1518 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yeah when MMOs have been on a decline it parodies them accurately

    • @schneeluchsalpha2966
      @schneeluchsalpha2966 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      ... Especially due to Asmongold even mentioning it would not be a real game due to not having a female chain-bikini - and they actually have multiple skits about that!

    • @July-gj1st
      @July-gj1st ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I hope he checks out the bikini armour one and the one where Alan goes psycho cuz of the skips.

  • @JairusC
    @JairusC ปีที่แล้ว +366

    Bruh. I'm glad you stumbled on Viva la Dirt because their skits are fucking hilarious and definitely up your alley.
    The healer doing DPS is a funny af one.

    • @luizrafael7939
      @luizrafael7939 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Baradun camping at the starting point is crazy as well

    • @lunerlilly
      @lunerlilly ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I missed that one. I need to watch it now, thank you 😂.

    • @Skorsis
      @Skorsis ปีที่แล้ว +2

      HOLY NOVA!!!!!

  • @Immortal_BP
    @Immortal_BP 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    this is why i love elden ring and the pvp/co op aspect because you see so much gear and abilities and you know what enemy that person had to defeat in order to get said gear

    • @getsuryu7227
      @getsuryu7227 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Except there is still a pay to win as there are people who sell that good gear to crappy players

    • @poutineausyropderable7108
      @poutineausyropderable7108 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@getsuryu7227 sell? Bruh there's cheat engine.
      I started using it massively to skip all that tedious running arround the map after my 8th playthrough.
      Vanilla Elden Ring has garbage replayability unless you have the patience of someone like skumnut.

  • @brentonchong6694
    @brentonchong6694 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    love to see Viva la dirt league getting exposure
    their skits are absolutely amazing

  • @eleszar1
    @eleszar1 ปีที่แล้ว +271

    accomplishing something in the game and accomplishing something in real life should be 2 different things and not mix between

    • @xarbinchaoticneutral1785
      @xarbinchaoticneutral1785 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      I understand where you're coming from, however, when you create gameplay loops where "underemployed", "unemployed", and others who choose to forego outside responsibilities gain an advantage over others who need to balance between work/family/leisure that becomes a huge issue as well.

    • @Ecliptor.
      @Ecliptor. ปีที่แล้ว +38

      @@xarbinchaoticneutral1785 Sure, but this is very simple. Things you get with real money have no value in videogames. That is all.

    • @GhilieDawg
      @GhilieDawg ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Ecliptor.yeah they do they have value in ruining another's experience.

    • @XenosImplyer
      @XenosImplyer ปีที่แล้ว +35

      @@xarbinchaoticneutral1785 Then don't play games that require a big time investment or grinding.The game should not be made worse for those it was not intended for.

    • @xarbinchaoticneutral1785
      @xarbinchaoticneutral1785 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @Alin Bobaru wow that's a great response and that is definitely a good financial decision for a company (alienate your most profitable and largest player demographic).

  • @madonbarma2531
    @madonbarma2531 ปีที่แล้ว +48

    VLDL are really epic skit makers..... Every gamer will relate to most of their videos 🤣

  • @skirmantaskvederavicius2417
    @skirmantaskvederavicius2417 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    How the fuck did Asmon did not know about Viva La Dirt League?!?!

  • @KevinFrost
    @KevinFrost 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    It is a really good skit! It shows the argument from both sides and makes both of those sides look at each other in the eyes for even just a brief moment.

  • @Math28l
    @Math28l ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Asmon reaction to VLDL omg epic crossover.

  • @Danny01474
    @Danny01474 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Viva La Dirt League with another banger.

  • @reecebutler7707
    @reecebutler7707 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    More reacts to viva la dirt league please! Absolutely love these guys they are absolutely hilarious and have worked hard for what they have.

  • @thegaminglegend8200
    @thegaminglegend8200 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I grinded out the rep for Nigthfallen in Suramar to get the mount Arcanist's Manasaber, and let me tell you, when I finally unlocked it, I was so happy that it felt like I accomplished something and made me appreciate it even more. I mean, I have bought cosmetics in the past before playing the game. If it's like £5 or £10 I'll get it depending on the look, but I still grind the game out to get other cosmetics.

  • @MattBailz
    @MattBailz ปีที่แล้ว +14

    I’m so happy Viva la dirt league is getting more views. I loved all of their work and glad other people can see their skits

  • @Falruk
    @Falruk ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Asmongold finally finds Viva la Dirt League! This is such a great sketch group!

  • @axistria2212
    @axistria2212 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Viva deserves so much, glad you found them

  • @kanedadry7642
    @kanedadry7642 ปีที่แล้ว +93

    I have to admit my mind is often blown away by how insightful asmongold interacting with his community is.

    • @mrtoast244
      @mrtoast244 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Ikr, he always speaks his mind and brings top tier discussions to the table

  • @virtualdominus5504
    @virtualdominus5504 ปีที่แล้ว +54

    Fun seeing Viva La Dirt League finally getting noticed by some of the bigger streamers

    • @user-rr5ce1wb2j
      @user-rr5ce1wb2j ปีที่แล้ว +9

      VLDL has more subscribers than Asmon does...more than he has followers on Twitch...so really it's the other way around, he's lucky to review their stuff.

  • @adammorrell8834
    @adammorrell8834 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Finally. Viva La Dirt League. I’m surprised it took this long for him to view one of these videos.

    • @adammorrell8834
      @adammorrell8834 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@symphonixblades Good to know. I missed the first one then.

  • @chevrolegss
    @chevrolegss ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Viva la dirt league has amazing skits. But yes, grinding and earning gear is always an amazing feeling especially when most have not acquired it yet. I’m starting the grind for better gear and weapons in Elden Ring and it feels nice getting new armor and weapons when defeating difficult foes.

  • @parslipsb
    @parslipsb ปีที่แล้ว +14

    I was a grinder back in the early 2000s with WoW and PlanetSide and City of Heroes. It was absolutely a way for me to escape my lack of success in real life. But I got older, got married, got a good job that eventually turned into a great job, and found I was less interested in the grind.
    I despise pay to win in principle, even if these days it wouldn't be a big financial burden to drop $1k into a game to max out my power. I feel like true gamers put the work in, and I'm just not a true gamer anymore. Nothing wrong with either, it's just life. I'm fine with cosmetics, but I think there should always be exclusive items only accessible through the grind. Give both sides a win in this.

  • @TheTraderStan
    @TheTraderStan ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Shoutout to him going back to watch their ad at the end. Love that

  • @oMSoundblind
    @oMSoundblind ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I think it really depends on the type of game. I don't have issues with cosmetics when it comes to games like PoE, Warzone, etc. where you barely interact with others. But for (MMO)RPG's the cosmetics are the goal for a lot of people as it is directly linked to the "life" your character has lived. It does not matter if the store gear is different from the achievements/drops in my opinion, because if the "level" of the visuals is the same it will still feel as if they were born with a silver spoon in their mouth.
    This is coming from someone who has the disposable income to buy cosmetics for every game I play btw. I am not hating on people who have little time to play and a lot of money to burn. But I think this development of in-game stores is way more damaging to RPG's than any other genre.

    • @StateBlaze1989
      @StateBlaze1989 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It's gotten to the point where it feels like the in-game stores are worked on first before the game itself with how many major multiplayer games have launched over the years broken snd unfinished, yet the in-game store and microtransaction functions are pristine and feature complete.

    • @jayzenstyle
      @jayzenstyle ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Once money trumps sheer commitment and skill in a game, it's not fair anymore. And most people like fair games.

    • @SaltyMaud
      @SaltyMaud ปีที่แล้ว +5

      For a lot of gamers in a lot of games transmog is the true endgame. Kind of a meme but it's unironically true. The coolest cosmetics belong to pinnacle activities - prestige is the real carrot to "git gud" and that's how it should be. Cosmetic MTX severely diminishes the value of ingame effort just as P2W MTX does.

    • @purp1e200
      @purp1e200 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      "I don't have much time to play because of work so I will just pay instead of grinding." Such a stupid argument... If you have little time to play then you don't deserve the rewards. It is that simple.

    • @kaanarmutcu6740
      @kaanarmutcu6740 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Welcome to life some people have more money and easier access to luxury than you. Why is that a problem in a fantasy world??

  • @Superhyuman
    @Superhyuman ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Gotta love vivas videos they have been hilarious for many years

  • @tiktikboom2371
    @tiktikboom2371 ปีที่แล้ว +52

    I love the expressions brit does 😂 glad she’s getting into more skits.

    • @deeendee7162
      @deeendee7162 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      More skits? She's been a regular for YEARS!?

    • @db5094
      @db5094 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@deeendee7162 they're using her way more often though, she only used to be in the honeywood skits, but now she's in the restaurant ones too

  • @SkullRaine
    @SkullRaine ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I hope he makes a lot more videos on watching Viva la dirt league, they are such a good channel to watch. I have watched everything they've come out with to pass time.

  • @jmroz311
    @jmroz311 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I love those videos. All the epic NPC man episodes are gold. And their whole channel!

  • @Capra-OL09
    @Capra-OL09 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    As soon as you said chain mail armour I laughed cos they did a video on that too lol

  • @darenabryant9100
    @darenabryant9100 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    When I played fantasy games, I did it for a disconnect from real life, not so I could have people with literally too much money lording it over me. I recall one game where the guild leader was some kind of super rich person who dumped thousands of dollars into the game each month just to stay at the top of the leaderboards. He was one of the most toxic, unfriendly people I had ever met, and was only guild leader because most of that guild were kissing his ass because of how powerful he was in game... all based on how rich he was. I REALLY don't need to see that kind of mentality in a fantasy game I play to ESCAPE that sort of thing.

  • @broodrooster007
    @broodrooster007 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    Actually considered a couple of times to suggest these guys however I didn't want to risk violating some advertisement rules I would not be aware of or at least too lazy to look up. Amazing channel, great people, really enjoy their content!

    • @broodrooster007
      @broodrooster007 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Oh ofc, could have posted it on reddit! 🤦‍♂

    • @RYUtheLION
      @RYUtheLION ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Advertisement rules? Made no sense, anyone can say what they want. Stop being scaaaaared of pointless things :).

    • @kapitan19969838
      @kapitan19969838 ปีที่แล้ว

      Better safe than sorry mate

  • @Yoder023
    @Yoder023 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Dude is JUST discovering this
    I'm so happy. These guys should be the leaders of ComedyGaming vids

  • @slyme369
    @slyme369 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    almost every video they put out is pure gaming gold...well worth checking out some of their other vids

  • @billybegood466
    @billybegood466 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Dungeons and Dragons Online had an excellent solution to the end game grind that I thought was great. Every 10th time you completed a raid, instead of getting a random loot drop, you got to pick from a list of gear that drops from that raid.

  • @Ojutai
    @Ojutai ปีที่แล้ว +6

    My problem with cash shops and dlc is when they give people an advantage which I think is a common point of view but the other thing is how bare bones a lot of content has become so it can be split into additional payments. In black desert for example it's almost like the starting gear purposefully looks lame to incentivise additional purchases. To add to that it's nuts how we've gotten to a point where an expansion like Dragonflight that took tons of people and hours of work to make costs $50 while a costume that was probably made by one person in a few nights costs $20. Of course the industry would twist my statement and raise the price of expansions lol

    • @austinshade7155
      @austinshade7155 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      How does it give me an advantage when I bust my ass every day and put my literal life on the line to earn the money to buy my items in game? I serve my community and country what have you done besides no life a video game?

  • @malaspalace
    @malaspalace ปีที่แล้ว +15

    VLDL is a goldmine of comedy for gamers - hope you review several more of their videos

  • @cmsvmylo
    @cmsvmylo ปีที่แล้ว +4

    These guys have some of the best content on youtube. Been following them for years. They also have a DnD channel.

  • @beardedbarbell8132
    @beardedbarbell8132 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    maybe a good way to reduce the amount of hate to people that buy gear is having a way to unlock it before you can purchase it. like in order to buy it from cash shop you still have to complete the dungeon, quest or achievement that drops that item. Then you can buy it with real money.

  • @pashley1411
    @pashley1411 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Monetarizing is simply an extension of mini-maxing the game, expressed in outside currency. You are going to have to change a generation of influencers, guides, add-ons, players, and developers, to get players to enjoy the gaming experience as was written, instead of beating the game content down. (by whatever means). Monetarization is like taking the first chaper of LOTR, and then buying an ending, instead of reading the books.

    • @robgillan2493
      @robgillan2493 ปีที่แล้ว

      Monetization is not a bad thing, especially for free to play games and helps companies maintain income while continuing to update games. The problem with monetization is when certain companies get greedy with it and offer pay 2 win scenarios, loot boxes and so on. Go look at POE, its heavily monetized but there is not a single thing you need to buy to beat the game and be among the strongest players. You can 100% play the game beginning to end without spending a single cent.

  • @julienclement3704
    @julienclement3704 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    wow you're in for a long ride asmon, they have a ton of amazing video.

  • @LordLemoncake
    @LordLemoncake ปีที่แล้ว +46

    As Asmongold pointed out, people want to start with a clean slate and achieve things in games on their own, seeing cosmetics in a game is not terrible even though i think it really reminds people for their limits IRL, what is more problematic for people are the p2w features.
    Viva La Dirt League is a good channel, btw, i love them : )

    • @jayzenstyle
      @jayzenstyle ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Had no issue with cosmetics, as long as it doesn't affect gameplay and progress.

    • @lazyfrogeyes5949
      @lazyfrogeyes5949 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      So just because one person can't afford a luxury means no one should be able to have it? Cry me a river life isn't fair. How about people stop being jealous and envious over pixels. That would be a good start.

    • @LordLemoncake
      @LordLemoncake ปีที่แล้ว

      @@lazyfrogeyes5949
      As Asmongold explained, every game needs people who spend irl money, he calls those people whales because they are willing to spend money on a game, and a game also needs a lot of traffic, that traffic is generated by free to play players, the problem is that you cannot allow the game become pay to win or the game will lose traffic.
      So cosmetics are not the real problem.

    • @GeorgeMonet
      @GeorgeMonet 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      WRONG. Seeing cosmetics that are locked behind paywalls, grind walls and skillwalls are all worse than P2W features in noncompetitive games.
      Cosmetics are absolutely a problem because how your character looks is often the most important part of a game because that is how you interact with the game.

  • @BlackWing117
    @BlackWing117 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    That changed my attitude towards gatekeeping.
    It keeps the soulless, uncaring hordes away from something that brings you joy.
    Because if the franchise goes down, they don't care - they just move and infect to the next one.

  • @sparkyphantom92
    @sparkyphantom92 ปีที่แล้ว +85

    Time is just another form of currency if you think about it

    • @sevenproxies
      @sevenproxies ปีที่แล้ว +12

      life is like a metaphor for life

    • @johanjansson6367
      @johanjansson6367 ปีที่แล้ว

      Fookin deep man. True

    • @brandonyoung4910
      @brandonyoung4910 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It’s the most valuable currency there is and you can’t get it back.

    • @vincentrao3466
      @vincentrao3466 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      More like time is money. Why do you work? For money? What do you sacrifice for that money? Your limited time on this earth.

    • @Makai-
      @Makai- ปีที่แล้ว

      @@B1u35ky you're paid money in exchange for your time and skill

  • @grimreefer213
    @grimreefer213 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    There’s a lot of anti consumer friendly practices in gaming today, they make you grind for 2000 hours in order to get the good gear, or they make you pay real money to shortcut it

  • @Gwynbleidd_117
    @Gwynbleidd_117 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey a Viva video! One of the best channels on TH-cam. All their series are amazing

  • @yendorggb6526
    @yendorggb6526 ปีที่แล้ว

    20 years ago the same thing was happening with account selling and selling items that you traded in game later.

  • @davidevert4786
    @davidevert4786 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I love these guys their content is gold

  • @mikerochburns4104
    @mikerochburns4104 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Over 5 years old now, their "Third Person Logic in PUBG" skit is so funny.

  • @luizrafael7939
    @luizrafael7939 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    VLDL and Epic NPC are by far my best way to LOL and enjoy myself while lunching. Thats why I am gladly a member of their community spending real money to help their cause... Haha

  • @nickgib5441
    @nickgib5441 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Asmon and VLDL. Worlds have finally collided

  • @chobitsotaku5613
    @chobitsotaku5613 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    Just like the girl in the video, I also started being okay with costemics in stores as not everyone has time to grind the game to get cool looking gear. But I also say fuck off when a game decides to had not only costemics, but cosmetics with op stats that do affect your gameplay or other items that allow you to get stronger endgame gear than f2p with also endgame gear.

    • @kingofsapi
      @kingofsapi ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I wonder would it be better if such practices were more confined to singleplayer games. It'll be like cheatcodes we had back in the day except dressed up in prettier cosmetics and as gear/items/characters for your gaming pleasure. But I guess the point is to show off what you got to other players....

    • @Voexulle
      @Voexulle ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Tru
      Imagine grinding a endgame item for like about 5 months and you see someone has a cool looking sword that has higher stats than your 5 month grinded sword and hes like below level from you

    • @lothara.schmal5092
      @lothara.schmal5092 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Voexulle I mean, if there’s not anything competitive abt the game then it shouldn’t really matyer

  • @thelinsky2319
    @thelinsky2319 ปีที่แล้ว

    My T0 and T2 Paladin Set in WoW are my most precious possessions because I remember the fun times getting them. It wasn't about the badassery (lets be honest: Paladins were "only" holyfied buffmachines back then) but the good times.

  • @khajiitmerchant2485
    @khajiitmerchant2485 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    "I listened to the whole F****** monolog."😂😂😂😂

  • @natevaughn2307
    @natevaughn2307 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    He definitely needs to watch more of their content.

  • @stefvanbust552
    @stefvanbust552 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    It's still cringe to buy cosmetics in a game even when rich people do it. It's not about having or not having the money for it. It's about integrity, standards, etics.

    • @stefvanbust552
      @stefvanbust552 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@aleksei8884 You might think you look fly but be sure other people who see your character think you look cringy and they might even disrespect you. Not because they are jealous but because you disgust them.
      You basically display how the game developers and publishers managed to manipulate you into spending money.
      How far do you go to look fly IRL? Do you buy expenisve designer clothes and get cosmetic surgery?

    • @stefvanbust552
      @stefvanbust552 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@aleksei8884 I speak for myself and yes it's disgusting.

    • @ittoarakati2243
      @ittoarakati2243 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      You guys forget that we need paid players, specially for free games paid players are what's pay for the servers and keeping the game alive

  • @MasterTopher21
    @MasterTopher21 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    As one who follows VLDL, it's funny you should mention chainmail bikini. That is most definitely a thing in the EpicNPC man universe.

  • @kazfirepsn614
    @kazfirepsn614 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    There's a limit to cosmetics too, and it was laid out well in the video as well. A lot of the games I've played recently- it seems that the armors or mounts, or whatever I grinded for, doesn't reward with a good looking piece of gear. It seems that the majority of the good looking gear is always paid content.
    It wouldn't be so bad if you could earn something that stands out well above the paid content by investing your time.

  • @Ashen-One1
    @Ashen-One1 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Asmon should watch more NPCman and Viva la dirt! These guys are awesome

  • @TheRevenant4585
    @TheRevenant4585 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I know everyone else already said it, but Viva La Dirt League is amazing and extremely underrated. It’s honestly awesome to see a popular streamer like Asmonsgold checking them out, and I hope to see more stuff like this in the future. They really deserve the recognition.

    • @StandStrong614
      @StandStrong614 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      They have like double the subs that Asmongold does.

    • @TuhljinTampergauge
      @TuhljinTampergauge 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@StandStrong614And?

  • @jeremyday1611
    @jeremyday1611 ปีที่แล้ว

    You gotta keep watching these guys. Viva is amazing and I’ve been watching them for years

  • @imperialmoose
    @imperialmoose ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love these guys! Viva la dirt league are awesome

  • @Vyngraven
    @Vyngraven ปีที่แล้ว +5

    If you're just buying armor, you miss out on the journey and the artistic take of the creators.
    Might as well buy a max level boost while you're at it.

    • @Vyngraven
      @Vyngraven ปีที่แล้ว

      @@JerBuster77 There are different creators for different departments, obviously.

  • @hanahinao3684
    @hanahinao3684 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I farm out Ashe of alar
    See a dude with a flying mouse mount
    Me : F** you

  • @fun0537
    @fun0537 ปีที่แล้ว

    I remember seeing my first Paladin running around with SoulFire in EQ or that first player in full Ruby

  • @ragefright7453
    @ragefright7453 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Finally reacting to a Viva la Dirt league video! Love these guys.

  • @DrDipsh1t
    @DrDipsh1t ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I like how Asmon accidentally auto-played past the end where they shoutout the people who made the armor and he took the few seconds to go back and watch that part to make sure the credit was given.

  • @rpgshadowmorn2683
    @rpgshadowmorn2683 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Honestly i rarely ever spend money on any cash shops and avoid pay to win games. I think in the last year i spent 10$ for an outfit on a game that looks cool on my character i am enjoying (outfit has no stats and is pure cosmetic).
    Micro-transactions are fine as long as two things are met 1) they aren’t pay to win and remain mostly cosmetic 2) the ingame obtainable cosmetics have far more customization and potential to look way cooler due to mixing and matching for fashion through transmoging.

    • @xdoubt5487
      @xdoubt5487 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      But for everyone with that mentality, you got 10-20 people with the opposite

    • @rpgshadowmorn2683
      @rpgshadowmorn2683 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@xdoubt5487 sadly… but i can’t control what others do or don’t do, i can only try my best to be the better me each day and as long as more people do that then it eventually makes a difference.
      Everyone has faults just gotta try our best not to give into impulsive buying as tempting as it can be.

    • @xdoubt5487
      @xdoubt5487 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@rpgshadowmorn2683 But to the people that see it as normal and to them it is, just as it is to you, too not purchase micros, is normal.
      A person who has money will not be contemplating whether to use it or not, they simply will. It's normal.

  • @SaMi3Nyayer
    @SaMi3Nyayer ปีที่แล้ว

    i mean for what he says i think buyable exp boosters and drop boostets etc. are fine enough in most cases if it doenst affect endgame pvp and endgame overal and buying cosmetics is fine if theres also great cosmetics thts not buyable theres many ways where monetiziation can work well if its done well which it aint in alot of games

  • @hunter5822
    @hunter5822 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    3:03 I think it’s more ok if it’s specifically seperate kinds of paid for armor that look good.... they are no where near the best but they will serve you well until you get better armor.
    That way if you want the best armor you still have to earn it, BUT until then anyone who looks at you knows you paid for it.
    It’s not a shame tactic cause there’s no shame in buying a cool armor cause it’s not giving you any unfair advantages.
    You just want to look cool, and especially if you are just starting out it’s an indicator that you aren’t just some kid hoping on for the first time and are trying to catch up with friends .
    as with most things in an MMORPG it’s VERY important that it’s balanced and handled with care.

  • @dk-sky3820
    @dk-sky3820 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Petition for Asmonto watch VLDL “Every new expansion launch experience” video 😂
    PS: or any of their videos really they are all good

  • @MrBeefTot187
    @MrBeefTot187 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Diablo 4 about to have this too😂

  • @Lyfa00
    @Lyfa00 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The thing is, back in the day, u had a job and not that much time to game and grind and still managed to get stuff like that. Took a bit longer maybe but you got it in the end. That's the real accomplishment imo, managing grind with a limited amount of time.

  • @GobiSubramaniam
    @GobiSubramaniam 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The bad thing about microtransaction is - it never tells you that all that cool armor and weapons you have brought with real money gonna meant anything if your character is just starting from base (level 1).
    In another word, you can have a level 100 gears and weapon but if your level is just 1, in some games like Dark Souls, Bloodborne and Nioh, it will work against you because your stamina will be so low, you can hit the weapon or roll more than twice. That what happened to me (in Nioh when I got free armor set - never used it after the first death).

  • @Sheriff_K
    @Sheriff_K ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I think the main reason for the shift in how accepted P2W is, is mainly due to the fact that the main demographic of online games are NOW ABLE to purchase stuff, whereas before they were likely too young, in school, or needed their mom's credit card, to do so.. and as a result disdained those that could do something they couldn't and thus felt superior to them for being "F2P." But now they have jobs and disposable income, and don't care as much.

  • @nyxofstarlight
    @nyxofstarlight ปีที่แล้ว +24

    Vldl makes some pretty entertaining content, and also quite true in various regards to things found in games. They do a nice job plus on a comedic note

  • @shadowarez1337
    @shadowarez1337 หลายเดือนก่อน

    @2:40 Full Heroism Set fully upgraded back in old days of wow on the warrior. I had a full 8/8 before I even stepped foot in MC.

  • @Owl1221
    @Owl1221 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i feel like its not unreasonable to have it both ways. you can buy really nice cosmetics in a lot of games, but some more than others, you can also unlock really cool looking cosmetics. it is possible to have it both ways. you and pay your way, and you can grind your way. the problem is, they dont necessarily make money, or as much if its a grind only cosmetic. they make more selling it. granted a business is always going to run as a business, but you also need to look at long term returning customers. just like any other business. sometimes its better to take a hit now, to make even more later. even this though, isnt a perfect formula.

  • @Winland88
    @Winland88 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Bout time Asmon discovered VLDL, that is endless source of reaction material right there. So many good skits from games and real life. Fruit Merchant "saga" is both funny and sad at the same time :(

  • @wpelfeta
    @wpelfeta ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I used to be a hardcore gamer, then I got a job. It really changes your perspective when you go from having lots of free time and no money to having lots of money and no free time.

  • @jesse3760
    @jesse3760 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    "No one needs your permission " lmfao too true

  • @LordOfElm
    @LordOfElm ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is doubly sad because companies producing modern games have no incentive to care how players with no money feel about in-game purchaseables, which means it's highly unlikely we'll ever see the clock turn back and games be produced without them.

  • @ckhayne2
    @ckhayne2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Just discovered this channel. Went down the rabbit hole, and they have some pretty funny stuff. They do have a few videos about chainmail bikinis lol,

    • @lipeelix
      @lipeelix ปีที่แล้ว +1

      they also have an ongoing D&D campaign with the NPCs of the epic npc man videos in a secondary channel (vldl dnd) that you might want to check it out if you end up enjoying the videos.

  • @kaceelove2999
    @kaceelove2999 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Asmongold, please watch more VLDL on stream, they are spot on.

  • @MagnarTheSwole
    @MagnarTheSwole ปีที่แล้ว +2

    They took the fantasy out of MMOs and made it like real life

  • @Nexium51
    @Nexium51 ปีที่แล้ว

    I still remember getting my Journeyman's boots in Everquest back in 1999 because it was not an easy quest.

  • @clubpenguincheate100
    @clubpenguincheate100 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    One day Asmon will disable autoplay, I believe