(Tai Chip originally posted this on my channel page. I thought I'd share his knowledge.) Written by Tai Chip -- Tung Ying Chieh and Tung Hu Ling comparative video: When I was studying with him, I asked Tung Hu Ling about his film (video) and why he was not always at the same level throughout the set. He told me that he tried to make the set look more interesting for the audience. He said that, when practiced correctly and at only one level, watching the set was about as captivating as watching grass grow. Taking that further, it is my opinion that when one practices for oneself in private much can happen that is not visible to the outside viewer. Tung Ying Jie was a top disciple of Yang Chengfu so his form is as close to the original as we can find in motion. It is interesting to see how his son Tung Hu Ling, made slight changes. That said, there are many possible moves in the set and the emphasis can change based on many factors. So one variation or another is to some extent a personal matter.
Nice goes along with the comparison of Chen and Yang styles video. Truly a wonderful age we live in if we do not mess it up with concepts and petty ideas. Thank you. Yes as you age so does your Tai Chi take it from the 87 year old, and I am new comer Ben doing Tai Chi for only 25 years
Thank you so much for this video. I have often seen them doing the form individually, but this is magic, almost imagined they were there side by side practising together! Very instructive too, because I had thought their styles very different until now. There is a lot of cohesion really. And also it made me think of the age difference. What will our tai chi look like when/if we become as old as Tung Ying Chieh? I am lucky to be able to study at some tai chi camps with his son, Tung Kai Ying. His form is much more sober, but it would be interesting to see a comparative video someday. Sometimes his son Chen Wei is there and we have had the privilege of seeing a 12 minute demo of him doing the form. So impressive too! No one dares to film, but I hope one day there will be one on the internet. Thanks again, really beautiful!
Whichever Tung is on right side of screen is Chen'ing his Yang style is why the height changes. Silk reeling, if to exist in Yang style, is to be buried in Yang style. I like his choice for both entertainment value and it's instructive to see how silk reeling can subtly empower Yang. Does not preclude moving as a unit, I don't think, ultimately anyway.
IMHO, the father is much better than the son. The senior master seems to consciously imagine he’s countering his opponent’s move. So his arms tend to stay closer to his body to keep any openings closed to his opponent. In other words, his posture is more correct for a boxer’s stance.
No - I know that's not easy at all. You did a fabulous job! Thanks for putting that up. I had a chance to study with the Dong family in Hawaii - and also with Doc Fai Wong. That lineage comes down from Hu Yuen Chou, a contemporary of the elder Dong. When I watched your video, I was reminded of so many things - the angle of the hands, the body lean - very deep rooting that were all flavors of their style. Awesome. :-)
Trained with the Dong family, very cool! Hey, if you get a chance, take a look at my latest video Chen Style & Yang Style Taiji Side by Side: th-cam.com/video/-HRaAIdkqiY/w-d-xo.html
(Tai Chip originally posted this on my channel page. I thought I'd share his knowledge.)
Written by Tai Chip --
Tung Ying Chieh and Tung Hu Ling comparative video: When I was studying with him, I asked Tung Hu Ling about his film (video) and why he was not always at the same level throughout the set. He told me that he tried to make the set look more interesting for the audience. He said that, when practiced correctly and at only one level, watching the set was about as captivating as watching grass grow.
Taking that further, it is my opinion that when one practices for oneself in private much can happen that is not visible to the outside viewer.
Tung Ying Jie was a top disciple of Yang Chengfu so his form is as close to the original as we can find in motion. It is interesting to see how his son Tung Hu Ling, made slight changes. That said, there are many possible moves in the set and the emphasis can change based on many factors. So one variation or another is to some extent a personal matter.
This very old footage is fascinating. Thank you for sharing!
Cest merveilleux et extraordinaire !
Nice goes along with the comparison of Chen and Yang styles video. Truly a wonderful age we live in if we do not mess it up with concepts and petty ideas. Thank you. Yes as you age so does your Tai Chi take it from the 87 year old, and I am new comer Ben doing Tai Chi for only 25 years
Thank you
Thank you so much for this video. I have often seen them doing the form individually, but this is magic, almost imagined they were there side by side practising together! Very instructive too, because I had thought their styles very different until now. There is a lot of cohesion really. And also it made me think of the age difference. What will our tai chi look like when/if we become as old as Tung Ying Chieh?
I am lucky to be able to study at some tai chi camps with his son, Tung Kai Ying. His form is much more sober, but it would be interesting to see a comparative video someday. Sometimes his son Chen Wei is there and we have had the privilege of seeing a 12 minute demo of him doing the form. So impressive too! No one dares to film, but I hope one day there will be one on the internet.
Thanks again, really beautiful!
Now that I am 87 I understand Tai Chi has to be more mental and internal
Whichever Tung is on right side of screen is Chen'ing his Yang style is why the height changes. Silk reeling, if to exist in Yang style, is to be buried in Yang style. I like his choice for both entertainment value and it's instructive to see how silk reeling can subtly empower Yang. Does not preclude moving as a unit, I don't think, ultimately anyway.
Teaching silk reeling is important in the yang style as it can add power to ones Tai chi as we age. At 87 it is my saving grace.
@@edwardhayes6113 Thanks for this reminder as I enter my own version of the 60's, having come out of the '60's.
Very nice.
IMHO, the father is much better than the son.
The senior master seems to consciously imagine he’s countering his opponent’s move. So his arms tend to stay closer to his body to keep any openings closed to his opponent. In other words, his posture is more correct for a boxer’s stance.
Interesting!
Very nice. Did you edit the dual view yourself?
No - I know that's not easy at all. You did a fabulous job! Thanks for putting that up. I had a chance to study with the Dong family in Hawaii - and also with Doc Fai Wong. That lineage comes down from Hu Yuen Chou, a contemporary of the elder Dong. When I watched your video, I was reminded of so many things - the angle of the hands, the body lean - very deep rooting that were all flavors of their style. Awesome. :-)
Thanks! Glad you enjoyed the video. Yes, I edited the video and the dual view myself.
Trained with the Dong family, very cool!
Hey, if you get a chance, take a look at my latest video Chen Style & Yang Style Taiji Side by Side: th-cam.com/video/-HRaAIdkqiY/w-d-xo.html
Hi David. I remember you from your days in Hawaii. Nice to hear from you. Yes, I did the editing myself using FinalCut Pro
Powerfull form, similar to Yang Sau Chung
Giống ma quá..^_^"