The End Of Planetary Rush To Grandmaster? (Ep #21)

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  • @keizan5132
    @keizan5132 ปีที่แล้ว +204

    Love how he says: "we played against three high level pros and now we're playing against an NA player". Meme fuel there xd.

  • @Szokynyovics
    @Szokynyovics ปีที่แล้ว +125

    Marc, we are not here for you to win - though we love it of course - we are here for you to have a good time. And that you always deliver.

    • @shinyary2
      @shinyary2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Hear, hear!

    • @slaine88
      @slaine88 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I want him to win

    • @crispycrimps865
      @crispycrimps865 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@slaine88 I agree. If he lost every single game, it wouldn't be quite as interesting

    • @VKTRUNG
      @VKTRUNG ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@crispycrimps865 I'm here for his commentary, it's really nice to hear him talk about the details that we don't see.

    • @slaine88
      @slaine88 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@crispycrimps865 He is quite captivating. I have watched every episode so far. But it is better when he wins

  • @kdomn37
    @kdomn37 ปีที่แล้ว +96

    Observer flies over the base. "At leas there is no observer spotting me right now, so that is good"

    • @jonathanljungqvist6482
      @jonathanljungqvist6482 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      08:31 "I kinda figure theres an Observer here somewhere" Observer flies ontop of him

  • @mickcraftgaming
    @mickcraftgaming ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Your thumbnail & title scared me. This is my favorite series - already started breaking out the planetary rushes on the ladder to great success!

  • @chrisgriffith1573
    @chrisgriffith1573 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    Humbled? No, you were recognized! "Hey this is uThermal's "SaltCannon" account- time to counter proxy fortress..."

    • @fuckingstupidthatihavetoma2528
      @fuckingstupidthatihavetoma2528 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      yeah I think challenges are more fun with barcodes. Getting recognized and blind countered isnt fun

    • @eurapeon
      @eurapeon ปีที่แล้ว +10

      It definitely felt like the zerg opponent was prepared for it

    • @kesatola3554
      @kesatola3554 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@eurapeon what mixu did literally was as standard as it gets, what part did you think was preparation, building queens and zerglings?

  • @jeffjlee7
    @jeffjlee7 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Here's a little story I had ChatGPT write using this series as inspiration. Hope you like it!
    Prompt: "Starcraft II. Give me an adventure story from the perspective of a marine on the ground while a command center is flying over the battleground, settling down, and transforming into a planetary fortress."
    The marine crouched behind a pile of rubble, his Gauss rifle clutched tightly in his hands. He could feel his heart pounding in his chest as he watched the approaching zerg swarm.
    The command center was flying overhead, its engines roaring as it settled down on the ground. The marine knew that they were about to transform it into a planetary fortress, a heavily armed and fortified structure that could withstand even the most intense assaults.
    But before that could happen, they needed to hold off the zerg. The marine took a deep breath and aimed his rifle at the closest zergling. He squeezed the trigger, and the rifle barked as a burst of high-velocity rounds tore through the creature.
    But there were so many of them. The marine could see them pouring over the hills, their chittering cries filling the air. He fired again and again, taking down zerglings left and right, but it wasn't enough. They just kept coming.
    The command center had landed now, and the marine could see the technicians scurrying around, preparing the transformation process. He knew that they were racing against time. If the zerg got to them before the transformation was complete, they would be doomed.
    The marine gritted his teeth and fired his rifle again. He could feel his fingers growing numb from the recoil, but he didn't stop. He couldn't stop. He was fighting for his life, and for the lives of his fellow soldiers.
    Suddenly, there was a deafening roar as a baneling exploded nearby. The marine was thrown backwards, his ears ringing from the blast. He struggled to his feet, his head spinning, and saw that the zerg were almost upon them.
    The transformation was complete. The command center had become a planetary fortress, its massive guns swiveling to target the oncoming zerg. The marine grinned despite himself. They might just make it out of this alive after all.
    He raised his rifle and fired once more, his shots finding their mark with deadly accuracy. The zerg continued to pour towards them, but the marine knew that they had the upper hand now. They had the fortress, and they had each other.
    He took a deep breath and braced himself for the fight ahead. The battle wasn't over yet, but the marine was ready for whatever the zerg could throw at them. They were marines, after all. They could handle anything.

    • @hsinglim
      @hsinglim ปีที่แล้ว

      Nice

    • @Caffeine_Addict_2020
      @Caffeine_Addict_2020 ปีที่แล้ว

      “They had the fortress, and they had each other” 😂😂😂 wtf chatgpt

  • @poutine420
    @poutine420 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    11:49 best read ive seen on this channel!!! and new thing i learned after 10 years of sc2 :)

  • @Phi1618033
    @Phi1618033 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    The fact that uThermal was able to take PF rushing to this level is impressive enough.

  • @briang5442
    @briang5442 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Turrets were HUGE. Might need that from here on out. Played so well the last game. PF series is safe!

  • @maxmccord9883
    @maxmccord9883 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    8:30 "kinda figure there's an observer here..." and you can see the blur right over the smokestack to the right of the army lol. Maybe he didn't snipe it this time but uthermal's observer sense is inspiring lol

  • @UnrivaledAegis
    @UnrivaledAegis ปีที่แล้ว +15

    This better not be anywhere near the end!

  • @woohab
    @woohab ปีที่แล้ว +2

    the mule was swarmed in hilarious fashion, lings instantly between it and the cc

  • @maximk9964
    @maximk9964 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Nice to see the turrets work out on that map this time around, same position as well.

  • @randybellwood1778
    @randybellwood1778 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    The end of an era.
    The dawn of stim 4 marauder to GM.

  • @ghoute
    @ghoute ปีที่แล้ว +40

    Don't bait me, silly goose. I'm going to watch it anyway X,D

  • @countx9407
    @countx9407 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    "Hidden base to GM"
    "Supply control to GM"
    "Stimmed marauder to GM"
    "Low APM to GM"
    Pls consider this Marc ;)

  • @Rakstawr
    @Rakstawr ปีที่แล้ว +16

    This has been an excellent series

  • @MadMathMike
    @MadMathMike ปีที่แล้ว

    Tough games, but well fought! Nice job taking the dub in that last match!

  • @adcyuumi
    @adcyuumi ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I can't agree that this strategy being good enough for pro play is being disproved in any way - if you don't even have a precise build order or know which maps the strategy will (or will not) work well on, AND the strategy is still getting wins, then I have to err on the side of "This can work" until I see at least one shred of evidence that it doesn't. So far, I have not seen that. It looks like a 100% sound high-odds cheese that just needs more TLC and planning than this challenge is giving it.
    I'm thinking make some Widow Mines vs Protoss. The typical way you are getting into trouble is vs either a growing Stalker count that moves out, or against Phoenixes. If you play Widow Mines + Cyclones (or even Widow Mines + Tanks; vs Stalkers), you should be able to stabilize and even break their army sometimes. It'd give you better odds than what keeps happening. "More Hellions" doesn't ever seem to be working.

  • @thepie8u
    @thepie8u ปีที่แล้ว

    hey thermy, love youre videos brother, thank you for all the videos you post. i just want to say i really do miss when you lose you go over the replay to analyze mistakes and stratgey improving decisions that could have been made, that made your conten fkn chefs kiss. specially when its high af up the mmr pool like vs mixu. thank you friend!

  • @timmuche1093
    @timmuche1093 ปีที่แล้ว

    Best Content! U have bring me back to sc2 Like 7 Weeks. I play random on low Master and if u have time i Would love too See How perfect standart openers Looks like . Only can 2 Different Builds and some cheeses. Greatings from Germany

  • @eclipseeffigy
    @eclipseeffigy ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Whew! Rough... but I still believe you can take it further!!

  • @true_xander
    @true_xander ปีที่แล้ว

    Mr. Uthermal, I wish you recover after those games! I also has an idea fo you regarding PF rush vs Z: what if you could build CC slightly far off the OV scouting path, pull out a viking in the same time, push OVs away from the back of their main, then drag opponent's attention away from the landing spot. That way you'll probably be able to land safely between natural and third, or even maybe between the main and natural!

  • @asdfaljkshfalrsgha
    @asdfaljkshfalrsgha ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Your PF was blocked by a stalker that first game, that’s why it didn’t fit

  • @aerob1033
    @aerob1033 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    After all these proxy/speedrunning to grandmaster series, I'd love to see another challenge series that leans toward longer games, like ghosts to GM or marine/medivac to GM. Thanks for all the great content regardless! This series has been super fun!

    • @Big5ocks
      @Big5ocks ปีที่แล้ว +1

      pf rushing and speed-runs have been great, but I don't get my daily dose of uThermal. A challannge that results in 10-15 mins average game time would be nice :)

    • @alexanderkomosa2254
      @alexanderkomosa2254 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      he's already done both of those challenges

    • @spider0804
      @spider0804 ปีที่แล้ว

      Both already done.

    • @aerob1033
      @aerob1033 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@alexanderkomosa2254 ​ @spider0804 I know, I was using them as examples! They're my favorite series so far :)

  • @darksniper1n
    @darksniper1n ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I feel like some of these are struggling because your challenge brain is kicking in HARD. Instead of doing a planetary rush, your doing planetary + additional cheese. g1 proxied a stargate with it, g2 tried to rush ghosts with it, neither of those work clearly. The real rush still working fine seemingly. Still enjoying this series and the content. thank you for the hard work!

  • @PashaSlavaUkraine
    @PashaSlavaUkraine ปีที่แล้ว

    i like to see looses. It makes for best content, glad you uploaded that too

  • @mattmbx5472
    @mattmbx5472 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    congrats for the 90k subs ! 😄

  • @njdarda
    @njdarda ปีที่แล้ว +1

    beating pros might be a bit too much for PF rush, but it's incredible that you're still getting wins at this MMR

  • @АндрейШмидт-б3е
    @АндрейШмидт-б3е ปีที่แล้ว

    8:33 "Its observer somewhere here. I just dont know where it is", and right at this time u can spot shimering at this strange thing close to the minerals on ur 5th Base that close to the slow zones-_-

  • @freddyperdok
    @freddyperdok ปีที่แล้ว

    Great content! Always looking forward to the next episodes.

  • @timd1191
    @timd1191 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I was all messed up yesterday, came home from work, made my favorite drink. No uthermal video...

  • @Ty-bz7zx
    @Ty-bz7zx ปีที่แล้ว

    Killer as always... keep it bangin'. thnx for the continued hard work bringing us all this.

  • @IcariumGaming
    @IcariumGaming ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You need to go into settings to allow you to click on a person's gas. It is turned off by default.

  • @overthinker8706
    @overthinker8706 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It seems like you probably should have a variant in case Protoss is going into robotics facility, seems you usually struggle with immortals. Or maybe scouting if protoss goes robo or stargate and then decide on variant. (is that even possible?) Also, if you sometimes add turrets to the mix, how about adding bunkers once in a while? I havent played laddar in a long time so pls bear with me if my ideas are really bad.
    Anyway I 'm glad series is safe. Keep up a good work. 👍

  • @user-ur4nl6dq2x
    @user-ur4nl6dq2x ปีที่แล้ว

    Challenge idea: i really want to see what you can/would do with mass liberators?
    "Liberators only" would likely be impossible, so maybe "transformers" challenge with the units that transform - liberators, tanks, hellion/firebats, vikings?

  • @kurtremislettmyr7108
    @kurtremislettmyr7108 ปีที่แล้ว

    with the problem getting landed, one should think you would put more thought into how far you fly the cc over enemies giving them time to react. just land at the closest possibel position .

  • @vitorh3568
    @vitorh3568 ปีที่แล้ว

    I confess I got anxious about the video title cause I am particularly not very fan of cheese games, so I was excited a new challenge was about to be announced xD

  • @joshwomack1954
    @joshwomack1954 ปีที่แล้ว

    Another great one. Keep it up my man.

  • @dabdoc3885
    @dabdoc3885 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    my favorite part was when he said "its thermalin' time!" and proceeded to uthermal all over them!

  • @mattheopichetti9258
    @mattheopichetti9258 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Top tier content as usual

  • @stefan.jokanovic
    @stefan.jokanovic ปีที่แล้ว +14

    You scared me in the title. This challenge is far from over. Regroup and rethink your strat and we will be GM in no time.

    • @eurapeon
      @eurapeon ปีที่แล้ว

      He's already top 100 GM with PR

    • @stefan.jokanovic
      @stefan.jokanovic ปีที่แล้ว

      @@eurapeon ahhh he just didnt have enough games and it showed M1. My bad .
      This strat is awesome!

  • @ddaniels
    @ddaniels ปีที่แล้ว

    Epic sad face thumbnail ❤️🤣

  • @oyuyuy
    @oyuyuy ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Challenge suggestion: Instant Expand (First building - Command Center, apart from one Depot)

  • @lairdofgarscaddon
    @lairdofgarscaddon ปีที่แล้ว

    I wonder if you need to reassess the overall purpose of the PF rush, at least against grandmaster zerg.
    So far, you have landed the PF to kill buildings and to contain them via the choke point outside the natural.
    What if you built it slightly further back and used it to control a lane to your base, thereby establishing some forward control? It will provide you room to macro behind it. You can treat it as a PF macro rather than a PF rush.
    It would provide vision and force the zerg to waste a lot of time either by trying to kill it or by having to run all the way around it.

  • @NathanHenriquefa
    @NathanHenriquefa ปีที่แล้ว

    7:15 now he has nothing in the main
    *actually sees a lot of stalkers*
    Now he has nothing in the Natural…

  • @AlecPerelman
    @AlecPerelman ปีที่แล้ว

    observer seen moving southwest at 8:10 :)

  • @SeekAndDestroyTM
    @SeekAndDestroyTM ปีที่แล้ว +51

    I'm sorry, but if you're actually serious about these challenges you NEED to barcode.

    • @Gossettc68
      @Gossettc68 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Right...At this point I am sure everyone knows that if " Saltcannon " ques in as Terran...They know it's gonna be a planetary rush.

    • @TheMuffinman191
      @TheMuffinman191 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Mans here to meme with PFs, this isn’t “serious”, he’s having fun

    • @r2pleasentgold244
      @r2pleasentgold244 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@TheMuffinman191 That's true, but it's not fun to see people blind counter. Especially at 6K+ MMR. Barcode just prevents the blind counters.

    • @SeekAndDestroyTM
      @SeekAndDestroyTM ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@TheMuffinman191 yes I actually get that, but is he more committed to the fun, or the practical success of his challenges? Because as the challenges get more ridiculous, they're going to be a lot less fun as people's twitch chat start telling them that Marc is doing a... Well to be honest I tried to think of something ridiculous here but Marc has already done all of it. But you get my point.

    • @shufflecat3334
      @shufflecat3334 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@SeekAndDestroyTM The only thing I could think of was Viking drops but I'm pretty sure he even did that once, though I forget when and why lol!

  • @narujoseful
    @narujoseful ปีที่แล้ว

    Is this a 69.97% certified uthermal classic? Asking for a friend.

  • @ike0072
    @ike0072 ปีที่แล้ว

    2v2 or 4v4's! with our without a friend to switch things up. 1-1 Roach marine where you control both armies and they control both economies! fun duo style.

  • @TimC1517
    @TimC1517 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love you Thermy! Would love to see hidden base to GM… I enjoy the games where you go more macro and I think that would give us some more of that

  • @champabay4746
    @champabay4746 ปีที่แล้ว

    The savior of sc2

  • @NathanHenriquefa
    @NathanHenriquefa ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Why stop at GM?
    PF Rush at BlizzCon!
    PF Rush at ESL!

  • @DiscipleofVenser1992
    @DiscipleofVenser1992 ปีที่แล้ว

    Anyone else notice that last game that Marc won took away 3 MMR?

  • @ajm2872
    @ajm2872 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I'm posting this comment before I watch the video, so we'll see if I'm wrong, but if a headline or title ends with a question mark, I always assume that the answer is "No." So congratulations in advance, Marc 😁

  • @Yumari-Mai
    @Yumari-Mai ปีที่แล้ว

    I love this series and I think that for this kind of MMR you could think about delaying the PF a little bit.
    Admittedly, the push will hit weaker, but this might give more chances of recovery.
    Also I second what I saw in the comments, I think some kind of "slowrunning" SC2 would be cool with more macro focus.
    I'd totally watch 50min ep with your commentary :D

    • @fatcat5971
      @fatcat5971 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah so if slowrunning SC2 ever happens I'd be interested in how tactics and strategies change when you are playing 'not to lose' vs going for the win.

  • @blamasterk
    @blamasterk ปีที่แล้ว

    Best episodes where you struggle

  • @MrBaubar
    @MrBaubar ปีที่แล้ว

    Pulling a few scv along with the first cyclone and auto repair might be a good call no ?

  • @Lincolncityhomepage
    @Lincolncityhomepage ปีที่แล้ว

    God-tier content ❤

  • @happyclouds5615
    @happyclouds5615 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Please never end

  • @pezelbuda
    @pezelbuda ปีที่แล้ว

    Last game was cool af!

  • @JasonNgq
    @JasonNgq ปีที่แล้ว

    what's the next GM series? burrowed banelings?

  • @invader_jim2837
    @invader_jim2837 ปีที่แล้ว

    How did that probe tag GLHF? Since when has that been a thing?

  • @montypython5521
    @montypython5521 ปีที่แล้ว

    I feel like unless you're going for a contain planetary in the main is always better than the natural.

  • @sloanNYC
    @sloanNYC ปีที่แล้ว

    Honestly don’t care if you win ever. These are fun no matter what!

  • @artemirrlazaris7406
    @artemirrlazaris7406 ปีที่แล้ว

    The planetary first game, if coved by two siege tanks there on gold is amazing... push

  • @Nachtgrabb
    @Nachtgrabb ปีที่แล้ว

    Now we know how huge the difference between normal and pro players is.

  • @semicedevine6918
    @semicedevine6918 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    yeah, it might be ok even if opponent sees pf early (as its flying into the main), I feel like in these challenges you try to hide what you're doing so much that you don't give yourself room to execute the strategy that you want to do
    so just relax and don't worry so much about being countered, even if first pf goes down you still have rest of the game to come up with something

  • @tom4ivo
    @tom4ivo ปีที่แล้ว

    I never see Marc hide his SCVs in the PF, where they can also repair each other; has he forgotten?

  • @kurtremislettmyr7108
    @kurtremislettmyr7108 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    can we turn off skins? i mean skins that the opponent has?

  • @720zone
    @720zone ปีที่แล้ว

    Good episode. Watch it through for a strong finish folks!

  • @TheDireLynx
    @TheDireLynx ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i wonder if liberators would be a good idea with planetary rushes, especially for zergs since they don't have a lot of things that shoot up and flying units come pretty late generally.

  • @miked3723
    @miked3723 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think the problem is 2 fold. Once you get to the higher MMR players yes they are better, but also they are engaged in the community and know who you are and what series you are playing so theres a lot more going against you.

  • @nullpointer57
    @nullpointer57 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thumbnail tho 😂

  • @CynicalLurker
    @CynicalLurker ปีที่แล้ว

    I am going to be so disappointed if this scenario doesn't happen before the series ends: You planetary rush a terran's main and instead of them panicking and trying to kill it, they just calmly lift their main cc and all their production to their third and the game continues from there. A delayed bongcloud as a response to a PF rush.

  • @TheBalv2
    @TheBalv2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This episode was great hahahaha

  • @StevenHanover
    @StevenHanover ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey guys its uthermal here lets planetary rush protoss and never build emp ghost to counter their imortal.

  • @spider0804
    @spider0804 ปีที่แล้ว

    Cannon rush to gm here we come!

  • @craig4811
    @craig4811 ปีที่แล้ว

    Let's go!

  • @PilotSupreme
    @PilotSupreme ปีที่แล้ว

    You did it Thermy

  • @Darjaboo
    @Darjaboo ปีที่แล้ว

    Maybe should pull most scvs since it is kind of an all in anyways.

  • @illt3ck
    @illt3ck ปีที่แล้ว

    Best of 5 w/ Mixu all cheese?

  • @DJ-3maj
    @DJ-3maj ปีที่แล้ว

    Call an ambulance
    but not for me

  • @rocksteady9826
    @rocksteady9826 ปีที่แล้ว

    I am posting this comment that for anyone experienced with making youtube videos, I will pay you 400 bucks to help me show the people that he is narrating instead of playing. I will give you all the pieces needed, I ask that you can coherently put it together. I am going to post this on every video until I can find someone. The reasoning is that I love uThermal, I think he is a great person, a great player, someone who comes up with great ideas, but because he himself is not playing and is instead narrating while giving the false impression of playing, I think that deserves to be exposed. I am still subbed, will always upvote every vid, this might seem petty but I just can't stand the lying part. (edit to change the 200 to 400)

  • @Epyon1201
    @Epyon1201 ปีที่แล้ว

    56-8 "why am I playing vs high level players?!" 100% of your brain power must be used for playing sc2 lol

  • @HerpMcDerperson
    @HerpMcDerperson ปีที่แล้ว

    You might have wanted to say "surmount" when you said "surpassed" about 19 minutes in. I know you like your vocabulary!

  • @Handler.000
    @Handler.000 ปีที่แล้ว

    u so good utermal please be pro again....u just so good!!!!

  • @TheWWWyrm
    @TheWWWyrm ปีที่แล้ว

    I would love to see a terran game where you just move your base and all of the scvs and to the other spot of the map right at the start of the game, opponent will likely be very confused

  • @2000HAVOC
    @2000HAVOC ปีที่แล้ว

    show us your best game as terran

  • @lechasseur77
    @lechasseur77 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    algo comment

  • @tolroth492
    @tolroth492 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Right when you said you did not know where the observer is, you can see it move on the right side of the screen. th-cam.com/video/FmzS6xAHxxc/w-d-xo.html

    • @eurapeon
      @eurapeon ปีที่แล้ว +1

      In this case his sixth sense was better than his fifth sense

  • @josefanon8504
    @josefanon8504 ปีที่แล้ว

    for the algo

  • @DarkWing494
    @DarkWing494 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Biggest fail (if it fails is not using barcode as name imo 🤣)

  • @ahmadsyahir475
    @ahmadsyahir475 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ayo

  • @kurtremislettmyr7108
    @kurtremislettmyr7108 ปีที่แล้ว

    if really like you going barcode at this lvl

  • @zachjones7745
    @zachjones7745 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love how he blames the build for fucking up... Marc you could have done better. Shit happens

  • @barsnack7999
    @barsnack7999 ปีที่แล้ว

    fail

  • @louistrinh3608
    @louistrinh3608 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think it's your name as well. You're getting too popular. I would assume everyone on the top 100 is extremely up-to-date with the current hot trend in the community. Even the world champion would have a hard time if someone is hard countering them 100% of times.

  • @TAG_Finance
    @TAG_Finance ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi

  • @yarugatyger1603
    @yarugatyger1603 ปีที่แล้ว

    Kinda sad how you diss the other guy for not being good at multitasking when you're equally incompetent during the first match.