Glider Following Arcus Super Ship Over Salt River Mountains
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 7 ก.ย. 2024
- Watch an ASW27 glider closely follow a beautiful Arcus sailplane in the Salt River Mountains on the border of Wyoming and Idaho near Afton, WY. It continues to amaze me even after flying these incredible ships for over 20 years, just how well modern gliders can catch the wind currents and fly for hundreds of miles in a day. Here is a gps flight trace of the flight www.onlineconte... I really hope you enjoy! Bruno - B4
I watch a lot of flying videos and of all the ones I have seen, man, this guy is a master! Unbelievable how easy he makes gliding look. Great!
Thx for thinking loud during your flights!!!!
It´s not an easy task: speaking and keeping focus on flight (specially flying close to another glider), but Bruno is very good on it!
You are welcome. I like for the enemy of this Republic to know what they are and what you can expect. It's not to late for you to open your eyes and get on the right side.
@@allendaves2001 what???
As an instructor once said to me 30 years ago when I was a young brave early solo ridge flying for the first time at Sutton Bank in the UK "do you have a any fear of trees?"
Ive flown off Sutton bank before, nice place :)
Graham Ariss Q.
I flew at Sutton Bank once after all my training up to solo was on aerotow/winch sites and I had never flown at a ridge site. It was terrifying to start with, especially when the big white horse suddenly appeared, but after a bit I got used to calmly waving at the hill-walkers above me. IIRC there was a pentagon-shaped field at the bottom from which the farmer made a small income in landing fees.
I'm living vicariously through your videos until i save up enough to fly gliders!
It's amazing and a bit scary how you can navigate through the mountains. Great video.
In a big plane all you'd hear is "Terrain! Pull up! Terrain!"
At the end where you were thermalling , I was going "na na na na na na na" got ya fritz
Bruno, thanks for the stream of consciousness: it's very useful as I prepare for spring in the southern hemisphere.I've been occupying some of my winter by translating some of the excellent French gliding material. Time to get the Discus out of its box!
+lautoka63 I have heard that the Discus is just a sweet glider to fly. You are a lucky buy. Have a blast as your season is just beginning and ours is coming to a close. Be safe and go far. Thanks for watching.
That Arcus is a good looking ship.
That terrain looks like a great place for a motorglider.
When we went into the mountains west of Black Forest, Colorado, it was usually on thermals and pushing 18,000 feet; only getting down on the rocks when we'd done something dumb. There's a deceptive pass east of Ganby, Colorado that has collected half a dozen airplanes over the years.
Amazing how far warm air can take you
:)
After you formed up, I did the same --- switched my gaze from what the instruments and general visuals were saying to keeping formation with MM
:)
Good flight!
Another brilliant video and commentary. Many thanks for sharing.
I am a very conservative glider pilot. As I get older, I get less bolder. But I enjoy watching you flying on the edge :)
Unbelievable. You can't imagine how I feel in my home seeing your flight....
Thanks for sharing Bruno.
Really interesting video showing your concentration as well as your skill and experience making those decisions. Glider pilots fly by the picture, one thing always mentioned throughout my pre-solo training. You provide good example of this.
On my 4th solo now - experiencing wave/ridge flying next week (under instruction).
Safe flying Bruno.
Claire
+Birds Eye View Thanks so much for watching Claire and keep enjoying your lessons!!! Hope you have a blast next week in the wave or on the ridges.
Your youtube page is like I a realy amazing favorite album of mine, from which I always pick a track at random. And everytime I watch, I find new interesting things to learn from/ to look at! Greetings from Belgium Bruno! ~Verdi
Thanks for watching and for saying hi!
Yet again a big thank you.
I watch these videos full screen on a 40" LCD tv at 720p and the resolution is absolutely crystal clear. I hate to think people are watching these videos on little 22" monitors.
arquebus77 Not 1080p? What a pleb.
I am watching it on our pretty new 65” HD and its absolutely breathtaking!!! Unbelievable quality, and great flying by Bruno! 👍
I'm watching it on my 55" 4k📽 📺 in bed
Great flying, and nice out landing! I admire the skills of gliding that near to mountain to and ridges. In my rather short gliding career so far (started 4 1/2 years ago here in flat northern Germany at the age of 42), I experienced a lot so far but I never dared to visit the Alps yet. When I see this video, this is definitely something I have to do in the near future with my good old ASW20, guided by an experienced local gliding instructor. Thank you for your exciting and authentic videos! Always have a happy landing!
+Robert Martens I love the 20! You are a very lucky person to have such a great (and beautiful) ship. Have a great and safe time in the Alps and make sure to take a video camera along. :) Thanks for watching.
Nice framing! I almost got the hand-sweats just looking. Again your videos tickled me into gliding; did my first solo this week! Thank you Bruno!
+youskeff Congrats on your first solo!!! :) That is crazy exciting. You have a bunch of fun still ahead of you as you further learn how to fly, soar and do cross country flights. Keep it up! :)
This is my back yard! I love that you fly the Salt River Range and post these videos. I spend lots of time hunting here. I live in Smoot!
+Scott S Scott - you live in an amazing place!!! The Salt River Range is one of my favorites. I bet the winters are pretty harsh though... ;)
+Bruno Vassel
The winters are LONG form sure.
Breathtaking video man! Beautiful scenery
It seems to me that the W27, wich is a 15 meter, does a very good job flying close to the Arcus
That's beautiful once again Bruno, would love to glide in American mountains one day, i just love your country and especially places like that!
Flying is freedom and then watching another aircraft from your airplane is freedom raised on the power 2 :) Very nice video, but I know that being there was a lot more interesting ;).
+Zoltán Nagy That's a nice way to say it Zoltan ;-)...watching other aircraft flying around you is a sublime feeling!
Really great video! I really like to watch how you fly! 😄
Nice one ... as always! I love these video's when you fly close to the mountains..
In Europe we have the Alps, spectacularly beautiful, but these are difficult to navigate, because there are hardly outlanding possibilities and weather and winds can change within minutes even depending on the time of the day. Each year we have to mourn the deaths of pilots who took a wrong decision and got themselves trapped, or faced a weather change they did not expect. For me not worth the risk to even try, the Thuringer wald hills are intimidating enough for me! :-)
+Marco Nierop Thanks for sharing Marco. These mountains we are flying here are VERY mild compared to the Alps. We have a pretty easy idea how to get out of them and it isn't just a huge canvas of mountains going in all directions. I would love to fly the Alps one day...in a two seater and an expert flying with me. :)
+Bruno Vassel Thanks Bruno! I 'd hope you would say something like that! To travel to Nephi is on my bucket list for some time now, I would love to fly with you some day, Arcus will do just fine ;-) . For flying in the Alps Klaus Ohlman runs a nice operation from Serres, France, see flyserres.com Eagles Alpine Soaring academy.
Hey bruno do you have an episode about pros and cons of different class of gliders and comparison of L/d and sink rate and if thats even important?
Thanks again Bruno, really enjoyed that.
Bruno, eres un crak, yo vuelo en el Twin Astir, y tus videos volando en ladera son muy buenos, muchas gracias!!!
your videos are amazing.
Thanks! :)
Intense but very beautiful!
Damnit Bruno... you're gonna make me end up taking on another expensive hobby, aren't you?
My dad learned how to fly in a sailplane at the Air Force Academy in the 60's. I remember some of the stories he told me about it... Maybe I'll have to talk him into going out with me to do a demo flight sometime. Looks amazingly fun!
+Matthew Johnson It is so worth it! Go take a flight and have a blast.
Thanks for sharing!~John
Is that a Rolex? Such beautiful footage.
Have you ever watched those videos of Luca Bertossio? He does crazy stuff.
Thanks mate
Gliding thru the Mountains.
This is music in skies
Is That R2D2 from Star Wars making such sounds ??? :) :) ;)
stunning
Pretty awesome. Don't ever get tricked by that dirty sink. haha
What a views !
Dunno about you lot, but flying a glider THAT close to a ridge scares the shit out of me, me, I' like open country sort with plenty of space to play in.
I would hazard a guess that the fact you've been flying for twenty plus years has as more to do with your glider being able to fly hundreds of miles as it's modern design.
Bruno - I'd welcome your thoughts, but to my understanding from this video, the ASW27 seems to more than hold its own against the Arcus.
+Jangle2007 On paper the Arcus is 50:1 and the 27 is 48:1. If my kids' lives were at stake, I would put money on the Arcus in an all-out flat glide by just a little, but they are close enough that it really comes down to piloting. Both are very lovely ships! ;)
+Bruno Vassel Those were my thoughts as well. But I had thought that the Arcus' 20m wing would yield a flatter polar at speed. My brief research indicates that this is not so, and the '27 continues to hold it's own past 110 knots. The only reason I can immediately think of for that paradox is the Arcus' wider fuselage.
Thanks for the great videos....really appreciate hearing your thought process in the close terrain!
+Jangle2007 While our ground speeds were often in the 110 knot range, our air speeds were not at all. The ridge was working but a little weaker than we wanted. For the most part we were cruising between 65-85 knots. This video is NOT a good indicator of the two gliders at 110 knots airspeed. That said, he was fully loaded and I was dry so the 27 did good. :)
@@Jangle2007Lead and follow flying, like combat, involves reading subtle signals from the aircraft in front, and cutting off very tiny corners... in extreme cases, a K21 has been known to do better in unpredictable conditions than a Duo Discus !! My apologies to the Discus drivers...
Amazing video, I really want to fly here!! Just curious what is "Plan B" if you run out of ridge lift? Is there an exit from all those mountains we just can't see in the video?
+AD7ZJ Thanks for watching. Yes, turning 90 degrees to the right would take me out some long canyons (around 5 miles) to a valley filled with farm fields and a few airports.
@@BrunoVassel with plenty of tall wheat?
Site check at Talgarth… "The white dots are sheep. If you can identify the species, you are doing fine. Experts can identify Shaun and Dolly. When you see the slots in the eyes, back off... "
Bruno I really enjoy watching your soaring videos! What Glider do you fly?
awesome !!!
Hello Bruno. Thanks for the great videos. Just have a question about your soaring techniques. While ridge soaring, I thought we were never to fly on the downwind side of any ridge period due to massive sink. Some ridges you cross and others you don't. One point in the video you even mention not to get caught on the back side of the ridge since there will be lots of sink there. (@7:27 in the video) but in other spots (in the beginning of this video) you are freely flying between the passes to the other side with no fear while in between many other mountains. Two questions from this: How is this possible? and Second, are you not fearful the winds will die off and you will be stuck between the ridges with no exit? There are no land out spots that I am seeing in this video. Any knowledge you can impart would be greatly appreciated. I do understand the basic principles of ridge soaring.
+Michael Fischer Hi Michael, thanks for watching and caring what is going on. :) The key to all of this deals with energy management. I am flying around 100 mph through these passes and have about 500 feet of vertical energy I can use in case I hit bad sink while in one of these passes. That means I could pull straight up and gain 500 feet of elevation in still air before hitting stall speed. The passes I am flying through are also only putting me in the lee-side air for just a few seconds. I will always avoid being behind the mountain for anything more than 5-6 seconds.
As for winds dying off, it does all the time in different spots in the mountains. Winds are almost never constant. Again, pilots keep our speeds up to get through these spots without any issues. Remember, my glider has a 48:1 glide ratio and can glide a long way in between lift sources. You need to get a ride in a glider on a ridge and get blown away at how amazing they are.
What is that ring that appears on your map/computer around 7:53?
Oh Bruno! That is so cool. How do you keep those planes up in the air? It seems so fantastic to me.
Catching the wind comming off those cliffs push him up hard and fast if he choose
I have no experience in a glider. The "tone
seems to indicate "lift. Can you tell me how it works? Personally, I'm sticking with motorcycles. Two dimensions.
What is this high frequence I hear all the time?
It's the electronic variometer that tells if the glider is rising or falling. It may sound annoying when not used to it, but for the pilot it is music.
Now...er...... which valley was it I launched from........?
Hi Bruno. Awesome videos. It would be great if you could add a OLC link in the videos description. Keep flying and keep filming.
Maybe you could reply with a OLC link for this video. Thanks
+FlyWithMeeeee Thanks for watching. I sometimes forget to add the olc link. I added it to the description. Enjoy. Bruno
You sick man :D
whats that lever on the left he plays w/?? whats it do
beautiful landscape, awesome flying!
one question: do you have a TCAS on board?
+Burkhard Bickmann In the USA is is called Power Flarm. It is a PCAS so is passive and relies on ground based radar somewhere within the horizon.
Hi Bruno, thank you for this beautiful footage. Just a remark: during thermalling with the other glider, it seems you're coming too close to it, this almost disappearing from your view for some seconds when you're above. Should have kept 180° pattern separation, shouldn't you?
+Riccardo Starace Hi Riccardo. You are completely correct that 180 degrees opposite the other glider is the best for thermalling but NOT for video recording. I was trying to follow and capture the beauty of the Arcus above the mountains. This was a video about following the Arcus, not thermal technique with another glider. Good observation and I hope you have fun and safe flights!
00:45 awesome
Someone really needs to make a glider simulator with realistic graphics.
Aerofly fs, but the weather simulation sucks.
Condor can look pretty good with pimped textures.
But here's an idea: Take out your glider and fly. The resolution can't be beat.
Whats that "Pfff"-Sound every 5 Seconds?
Jens Kirchheimer Oxygen :)
Is it possible to glide in a colder place like Washington?
oxigen supply?
What is emitting the tones/sounds? Like a stall speed indicator or altitude change?
It is called an electronic variometer. It tells the pilot if you are going up or going down without having to look at the instruments.
Bruno, given the requests for more explanations (which you've been doing, to the enjoyment of many of us) and data, you may care to look at a video from Italy (th-cam.com/video/uZxRvR8uMM8/w-d-xo.html) where the data is shown on screen. Don't rush out and buy a new camera just for your audience, but an interesting presentation.
+lautoka63 Very fun to watch. I subscribed. Thanks for sharing. :)
What's that sound you hear all the time?
Oxygen
variometer
When you say diving to the left would be really bad, is that because it's all sink on that side?
Good question. Two reasons: On the left once I got below the ridge line, I would have no possible landout fields. It was all mountains and wilderness. The other reason is that on that side of the ridge, the air would likely be sink (lee side sink). Thanks for watching!
How fast can the glider climb in a good thermal?
Fastest ever I have climbed was 2,800 feet per minute in one thermal over a big mountain. It was scary strong. Good stuff. On a normal good summer day I will hit at least one or two thermals that are going up over 1,000 feet per minute.
Bruno Vassel amazing - must’ve been so exciting. Is there any g force effect of going up that fast, like being squashed down into your sear.?
ever thought about bush planes
+jeff bobby Actually yes. I plan on doing a bunch of bush flying when I retire. Right now, I already have too many flying hobbies. Landing on top of a mountain looks like a lot of fun! :)
Haha
Yeah that looks pretty sketchy knowing you have NO motor...
sometimes you are quiet low
I am dumb LOL
gliding through mountains low like this is just mind boggling to me. its like those stupid free-solo climbers. just completely unnecessary risk for no reason at all. Ill never, ever get it.
I don't know how the fuck can a glider now be a ship. Do you really speak English? It's an aircraft, not a naval vessel.
Mick Carson you are a special piece of work. Ever heard of a space ship? You also think that is a naval vessel? The ignorance is strong in this young one...
Bruno Vassel
When you reply, I expect you to talk sensible, not a low IQ unintelligent illiterate who is trying to tell me between a spaceship and a naval ship. Both are very large and both are ships. If you know what ship means then don't try and educate me because in English if a ship is a ship, then how the fuck is it a naval, where naval is derived from Italian Nave, meaning ship. If you call a large vessel that carries people, supplies and offers accommodating rooms, a ship, why say naval fleet? Why don't you use your own language and say shipping fleet and skip the naval bullshit? And by the way, how does a glider become a ship? Is it a space ship? Does it carry supplies, people (apart from a pilot), does it offer accommodation and all things that a ship carries? No, so what ship are you referring a glider about? It's a glider, aka sailplane. My ignorance is strong... yeah? Look who's talking.
Mick Carson wow you so won that conversation with the well thought out logic Mick. My bad - sorry. With that level of anger I'm happy to stay well clear of you friend. I'll sail my boat to another harbor. Peace.
Woe there Mike, it's not a ship, but it has sails? Cuz it's a sailplane, vertical plane or horizontal? And a navel ship is really a shipship? My life is in turmoil.
Amazing how far warm air can take you