Even better, lets transfer that blessing to all those who are dealing with health issues and wish them the best in getting through them. 👍 Thanks for watching the video and for the support. 🤟
I just relied on your video to do a a lower leg service and swapped an air shaft on a Lyrik D1. First time doing it, and it went smoothly thanks to you! Many thanks for putting this together!
AWESOME job myman! 💪 Super glad to hear this worked out for you. I'm planning on making a full service video for a lyrik but chances are I won't have one released until fall (unless someone blows one out before then) Now time to enjoy the fruits of your labor! 👍
Another brilliant detailed video. Interesting to see the design changes from the 2.1 damper to the 3, no more leaking bladders at least. Will ve Interesting to see how the newer design holds up in the longer term.
Thanks myman. I'm glad you found the video informative. I'm interested to see how the charger 3 will hold up over time as well. I've had good luck with the 2.0 and 2.1, though I know there have been issues. One thing I will say about the 3.0, it's more of a challenge to dial it in than the previous charger. I plan on starting from scratch this year with a new frame. I never felt I got it right with my current frame, but then again, the frame was designed for a different offset, which can affect the feel of the front end significantly. As always, time will tell. 👍
Awesome to hear and thank you for the kind words. I'll be releasing a charger 3.1 swap out (can't say for sure if it actually an upgrade) soon, which might come in handy as well. 👍
I just wish I got this out sooner, I really wanted it out last october, but like the song goes "You can't always get what you want" but at least we got what we need. 😉
Thanks for taking the time to watch the video and for the comment. I literally couldn't find a 28mm cone wrench. None of my regular nor adjustable wrenches fit. I had to find one just for this video, and it barely fits. As for Crowfoot, which I think is the most important, I had to grind one down to make it work. They shouldn't have limited the wrench mounts. They could have easily provided an inch of space in order to fit any wrench. Always something when it comes to servicing bikes 😉
I find your videos very confidence inspiring and easy to follow, very helpful. It would be nice to see some closer shots though where possible. Looking forward to your next video 👍🏻
I couldn't' agree more with you. It needs to happen, and it's in my plans. I've been looking for a new camera setup that meets certain requirements. The big issue I have is with the grease, oils and fluids (surprising how much damage Dot 5 fluid does to plastic). Right now, I'm using a GoPro, which is super easy to clean. I need something similar, but with an interchangeable lens that is also relatively compact (Space is another issue). I'll get there sooner than later, for sure. 👍 Thanks for your time and glad to hear the videos are helpful for you
Great as always! But what’s the point of setting the ifp initially at 30mm and the compression assembly at 20 mm above the ifp tube when you’re just going to move the ifp to just above the window anyway ? This part never makes sense to me in the service guide.
Thanks for the positive feedback. The 30mm is basically to give you enough room before you screw down the two high-speed compression bolts after you install the low speed compression assembly into it. It doesn't have to be exactly 30mm, as long as you have enough room to make your life easier, that's good enough. Hopefully this helps.
love your channel man! very informative! when you're doing the lower service, why not just blast the lowers with water and clean it that way? also when the fork comes off the bike, can I just blast it with water to get all the mud and dirt off?
Thanks for the comment. Unless you are able to contain the water and properly dispose of it, then I wouldn't recommend using water to clean the inside of the forks. Oil will mix with water and the water has to go somewhere, either down a drain, or in the ground. Paper towels and alcohol will work just as well, and at least the paper towels will end up in a land fill. As for the exterior, absolutely, you can use a sprayer on them. On really muddy days, I go to the car wash to wash my bikes. Just don't point the spray gun towards any seals, wipers, bearings, etc. always spray from the opposite side 👍
Managed to watch all of this now. Thanks, great as always. Hopefully everything is well for you now or getting there. Had the lowers off mine and the airspring out last month. Can’t recall if I ensured the airsping shaft was all the way out. I’m not sure why they use that type of split retaining ring in the Pike, when the Lyrik (possibly) and definitely the ZEB use the circlip style. At least that’s what the manual shows. Seems like I’m going to need to acquire quite a few tools when I’m ready for the full service. Decent vice and soft jaws , along with other stuff. There is apparently a tool to help set the IFP depth. Might look into that also.
"Hopefully everything is well for you now or getting there." Man, was it crazy! Between my mom and aunt nearly dying, another aunt, who's like a mom, STILL in the hospital after 5 months, and my girlfriend getting through the biggest of health scares (all four happened or were diagnosed in a one-week period last October), to say the least, it was hectic. Health is wealth, my man. Enjoy it while we have it. And thank you for the thoughtful comment. It's much appreciated I so agree with you on the retaining ring. It doesn't make sense that they changed it, since they use circlips in other forks. It's just another supply chain part to manage. As for tools, I have to give rockshox credit for the past 6 years. They are really taking ease of service into consideration when designing and engineering their products as of late, and it shows. For the most part, most of their newer products don't really need expensive proprietary tools, which is unlike fox imo. Thanks again, and if you have any questions, just let me know
I'm glad to hear you found it informative and thank you for watching it. It's actually a relatively easy fork to service, but if you have any questions let me know
Yikes!!! at 21:58, you may have nicked the air shaft with the pick. I've used a short piece of 3/8" pvc tubing split down the side so I can protect the air shaft from nick possibilites when removing those circlips. And yes, the circlips with the little holes in each end were so much easier to pry loose. Question is, could one use the older circlips instead of the split ring?
It's all good. That particular pick I use is really blunt, though you are absolutely right. It doesn't take all that much to cause damage. I just don't get why rockshox bothers with those key ring clips. As for using a circlip on this fork, I haven't tested it. But I might get a chance to do so in about 3 weeks. If I do, I'll post back. Thanks for taking the time to watch the video
Hola zou! Me gustan mucho tus vídeos! Una consulta, con que frecuencia se le hace el mantenimiento al charguer3 ? Yo tengo una specialized que lleva una Lyric ultimate de 35mm , sería el mismo mantenimiento que este? Y por ultimo, el video del mantenimiento de la fox 36 con grip 2 sirve para una fox grip 2 de 2023 ?? Gracias, me encanta verte hacer los mantenimientos, eres muy bueno trabajando! Lyke 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
"con que frecuencia se le hace el mantenimiento al charguer3 ? " Es difícil decirlo ya que es tan nuevo y tan diferente. Si montas mucho, diría que una vez al año o cada 200 horas. "Yo tengo una specialized que lleva una Lyric ultimate de 35mm , sería el mismo mantenimiento que este? " Sí. Prácticamente lo mismo "el video del mantenimiento de la fox 36 con grip 2 sirve para una fox grip 2 de 2023 ??" Muy similar. La mayor diferencia estará en el eje de rebote. Hay algunos pasos adicionales para completarlo, pero no es difícil. Planeo hacer un video para un grip 2 del 2023. Muchas gracias por tomarse el tiempo de ver los videos y por las preguntas. 👍
WOW such a great vid on servicing a fork. You are GOOD!! But I have a question. I would love to learn how to do my Revelation RC A3 "2022" But don't see that you have a vid for it. So is their any fork that you did that is similar? I heard the Pike is the big brother of Revelation just with different damper correct? And possibly different airspring depending on the model of pike? So I guess my Revelation has a Debon airspring not C1?With motion control damper? Sorry Im very new to mtb'ing....
My apologies for the very late response. Thanks for the comment. The A3 has a motion control damper, which is a totally different damper than the one in this video. You won't be able to use this video to service the A3. My plan is to make videos for all types of forks, shocks, etc over time. I will be making a video on a fork with a motion control damper, but I can't say when. As for the air spring and lowers, they're basically the same as in this video. You can use this video for both. I hope this helps.
I might have pressed a brand new fully assembled charger 3.1 damper shaft past the line while testing out by hand. Did I ruin it? What happens when exceeding that line?
Plague, Pestilence, locusts devour, darkness descends. 😁 Bleeding past the bleed line can mess up your damper's oil level, making it feel less damped and responsive. To fix it, you'll need to bleed it again. As mentioned in the video, using a spacer during the bleeding process can help prevent this issue.
For real? I haven't done the 3.1 update yet. I'm planning on riding the fork as is this season and changing it to a 3.1 for next year. You should be able to at least revert back to the 3.0 and save the damper. Where are you located?
I’m in California. I felt the difference in compression. But that shaft just sprung back fast like there was no rebound dampening. Maybe it was my bleed? But I followed step by step of the Rockshox video and yours
IMO, crows feet are more important than a wrench because they torque bolts down to proper specs, and can be used to remove nuts and bolts. Any 23mm and 25mm wrench and crow foot will work, they don't need to be thin. Unfortunately, Rockshox didn't provide enough wall space for your average-sized 28mm crowfoot, wrench, or adjustable wrench, even though they had the space to do so. I added a link in the description to a 28mm crowfoot. It's the same one I have. You will need to grind it down by a few mm to make it work. Can you do all this with just an adjustable wrench? Yes, but you take the risk of incorrectly torquing parts, which can be a regrettable thing
Yup! that would work as well to remove it. What I should have mentioned is that a 28mm cone wrench would work great as well since it can also be used to torque when done, and they are relatively cheap. SO many details to remember, so few brain cells left to remember them all. 🙄
How much money was your seal kit? I see the Pike ultimate kit online at $89.00. That is super expensive. The full seal kit is $18.00 for my Recons. I now have the Pike and I can't believe how expensive the seal kit is.
NOT cheap. If memory serves me correctly, it was around $65, but I'm always looking for sales or taking advantage of discounts EVERY chance I get. The trick with seal kits is to not leave buying them until you need them. Keep an eye out throughout the year. If you find a good deal, buy it, even if you won't need it for a year. And if you think you're going to keep a fork or shock longer, then buy two when they are on sale or with a discount. This way, you won't get stuck waiting for a seal kit to come back in stock, like my buddy is right now for his fox damper., which is literally sold out everywhere.
God bleess you master!!
Even better, lets transfer that blessing to all those who are dealing with health issues and wish them the best in getting through them. 👍 Thanks for watching the video and for the support. 🤟
I just relied on your video to do a a lower leg service and swapped an air shaft on a Lyrik D1. First time doing it, and it went smoothly thanks to you! Many thanks for putting this together!
AWESOME job myman! 💪 Super glad to hear this worked out for you. I'm planning on making a full service video for a lyrik but chances are I won't have one released until fall (unless someone blows one out before then) Now time to enjoy the fruits of your labor! 👍
Another brilliant detailed video. Interesting to see the design changes from the 2.1 damper to the 3, no more leaking bladders at least. Will ve Interesting to see how the newer design holds up in the longer term.
Thanks myman. I'm glad you found the video informative. I'm interested to see how the charger 3 will hold up over time as well. I've had good luck with the 2.0 and 2.1, though I know there have been issues. One thing I will say about the 3.0, it's more of a challenge to dial it in than the previous charger. I plan on starting from scratch this year with a new frame. I never felt I got it right with my current frame, but then again, the frame was designed for a different offset, which can affect the feel of the front end significantly. As always, time will tell. 👍
@@zoubtube good luck with the new build.
Great video here my man. You took the mystery out of working on my lyrik. 🥂
Awesome to hear and thank you for the kind words. I'll be releasing a charger 3.1 swap out (can't say for sure if it actually an upgrade) soon, which might come in handy as well. 👍
This is my fork. Thank you for this!
Glad to hear you found it informative. Let me know if there are any questions.
Very intuitive video. Thank you for your hard work😊
Thank you my man for being supportive. if you have any questions just let me know. ljstu
Yes. This is my fork. Thank you for this!
I just wish I got this out sooner, I really wanted it out last october, but like the song goes "You can't always get what you want" but at least we got what we need. 😉
Get a 28mm cone wrench and file a bit away, job done, also great videos you are making, well done🎉
Thanks for taking the time to watch the video and for the comment. I literally couldn't find a 28mm cone wrench. None of my regular nor adjustable wrenches fit. I had to find one just for this video, and it barely fits. As for Crowfoot, which I think is the most important, I had to grind one down to make it work. They shouldn't have limited the wrench mounts. They could have easily provided an inch of space in order to fit any wrench. Always something when it comes to servicing bikes 😉
I find your videos very confidence inspiring and easy to follow, very helpful. It would be nice to see some closer shots though where possible. Looking forward to your next video 👍🏻
I couldn't' agree more with you. It needs to happen, and it's in my plans. I've been looking for a new camera setup that meets certain requirements. The big issue I have is with the grease, oils and fluids (surprising how much damage Dot 5 fluid does to plastic). Right now, I'm using a GoPro, which is super easy to clean. I need something similar, but with an interchangeable lens that is also relatively compact (Space is another issue). I'll get there sooner than later, for sure. 👍
Thanks for your time and glad to hear the videos are helpful for you
Been a while since the last video. Glad to see you back!
Been a while since we've gone for a ride! Highland is cleared and ready for you! 😉
@@zoubtube I know, man! It's been a sucky winter!!! 😭
Just followed instruction for my Air spring, reducing size for a shorter shaft, very informative and easy to follow
Glad to hear the video worked out for you, and thanks for leaving a comment and sharing your experience. 👍
Thanks for the detailed service videos.
I recently did fork lowers / shock aircan service by myself after seeing how easy they are.
Excellent job. super glad to hear this. Now it's time to go out there and enjoy it! 👍
Great as always! But what’s the point of setting the ifp initially at 30mm and the compression assembly at 20 mm above the ifp tube when you’re just going to move the ifp to just above the window anyway ? This part never makes sense to me in the service guide.
Thanks for the positive feedback. The 30mm is basically to give you enough room before you screw down the two high-speed compression bolts after you install the low speed compression assembly into it. It doesn't have to be exactly 30mm, as long as you have enough room to make your life easier, that's good enough. Hopefully this helps.
love your channel man! very informative! when you're doing the lower service, why not just blast the lowers with water and clean it that way? also when the fork comes off the bike, can I just blast it with water to get all the mud and dirt off?
Thanks for the comment. Unless you are able to contain the water and properly dispose of it, then I wouldn't recommend using water to clean the inside of the forks. Oil will mix with water and the water has to go somewhere, either down a drain, or in the ground. Paper towels and alcohol will work just as well, and at least the paper towels will end up in a land fill. As for the exterior, absolutely, you can use a sprayer on them. On really muddy days, I go to the car wash to wash my bikes. Just don't point the spray gun towards any seals, wipers, bearings, etc. always spray from the opposite side 👍
Thank You ;)
Thanks for watching the video. Hopefully it helps you out. let me know if there are any questions
@@zoubtube You explained everything very well, I was only surprised by the lack of seger ring in upper legs. It's a pity it's no longer there ;/.
Managed to watch all of this now. Thanks, great as always. Hopefully everything is well for you now or getting there.
Had the lowers off mine and the airspring out last month. Can’t recall if I ensured the airsping shaft was all the way out.
I’m not sure why they use that type of split retaining ring in the Pike, when the Lyrik (possibly) and definitely the ZEB use the circlip style. At least that’s what the manual shows.
Seems like I’m going to need to acquire quite a few tools when I’m ready for the full service. Decent vice and soft jaws , along with other stuff.
There is apparently a tool to help set the IFP depth. Might look into that also.
"Hopefully everything is well for you now or getting there."
Man, was it crazy! Between my mom and aunt nearly dying, another aunt, who's like a mom, STILL in the hospital after 5 months, and my girlfriend getting through the biggest of health scares (all four happened or were diagnosed in a one-week period last October), to say the least, it was hectic. Health is wealth, my man. Enjoy it while we have it. And thank you for the thoughtful comment. It's much appreciated
I so agree with you on the retaining ring. It doesn't make sense that they changed it, since they use circlips in other forks. It's just another supply chain part to manage.
As for tools, I have to give rockshox credit for the past 6 years. They are really taking ease of service into consideration when designing and engineering their products as of late, and it shows. For the most part, most of their newer products don't really need expensive proprietary tools, which is unlike fox imo.
Thanks again, and if you have any questions, just let me know
Amazing information. Salute sir
Thank you very much the kind words. Hopefully it will help you with servicing the fork, and if you have any questions, ask anytime
Thanks so much for the info and links!
I'm glad to hear you found it informative and thank you for watching it. It's actually a relatively easy fork to service, but if you have any questions let me know
Yikes!!! at 21:58, you may have nicked the air shaft with the pick. I've used a short piece of 3/8" pvc tubing split down the side so I can protect the air shaft from nick possibilites when removing those circlips. And yes, the circlips with the little holes in each end were so much easier to pry loose. Question is, could one use the older circlips instead of the split ring?
It's all good. That particular pick I use is really blunt, though you are absolutely right. It doesn't take all that much to cause damage. I just don't get why rockshox bothers with those key ring clips. As for using a circlip on this fork, I haven't tested it. But I might get a chance to do so in about 3 weeks. If I do, I'll post back.
Thanks for taking the time to watch the video
Hola zou! Me gustan mucho tus vídeos!
Una consulta, con que frecuencia se le hace el mantenimiento al charguer3 ?
Yo tengo una specialized que lleva una Lyric ultimate de 35mm , sería el mismo mantenimiento que este?
Y por ultimo, el video del mantenimiento de la fox 36 con grip 2 sirve para una fox grip 2 de 2023 ??
Gracias, me encanta verte hacer los mantenimientos, eres muy bueno trabajando! Lyke 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
"con que frecuencia se le hace el mantenimiento al charguer3 ? "
Es difícil decirlo ya que es tan nuevo y tan diferente. Si montas mucho, diría que una vez al año o cada 200 horas.
"Yo tengo una specialized que lleva una Lyric ultimate de 35mm , sería el mismo mantenimiento que este? "
Sí. Prácticamente lo mismo
"el video del mantenimiento de la fox 36 con grip 2 sirve para una fox grip 2 de 2023 ??"
Muy similar. La mayor diferencia estará en el eje de rebote. Hay algunos pasos adicionales para completarlo, pero no es difícil. Planeo hacer un video para un grip 2 del 2023.
Muchas gracias por tomarse el tiempo de ver los videos y por las preguntas. 👍
WOW such a great vid on servicing a fork. You are GOOD!! But I have a question. I would love to learn how to do my Revelation RC A3 "2022" But don't see that you have a vid for it. So is their any fork that you did that is similar? I heard the Pike is the big brother of Revelation just with different damper correct? And possibly different airspring depending on the model of pike?
So I guess my Revelation has a Debon airspring not C1?With motion control damper? Sorry Im very new to mtb'ing....
My apologies for the very late response. Thanks for the comment. The A3 has a motion control damper, which is a totally different damper than the one in this video. You won't be able to use this video to service the A3. My plan is to make videos for all types of forks, shocks, etc over time. I will be making a video on a fork with a motion control damper, but I can't say when. As for the air spring and lowers, they're basically the same as in this video. You can use this video for both. I hope this helps.
@@zoubtube oh cool!! Ty!! Definitely looking forward to a Motion Control damper vid 🤙🏻
Is the process the same for the new Zeb Ultimate with butternuts?
Good question. Mostly yes. The bleed do not exceed point will be 19mm instead of the pikes 25mm
I might have pressed a brand new fully assembled charger 3.1 damper shaft past the line while testing out by hand. Did I ruin it? What happens when exceeding that line?
Plague, Pestilence, locusts devour, darkness descends. 😁
Bleeding past the bleed line can mess up your damper's oil level, making it feel less damped and responsive. To fix it, you'll need to bleed it again. As mentioned in the video, using a spacer during the bleeding process can help prevent this issue.
@@zoubtube Thank you
So I did this service along with doing the 3.1 update when I was finished I had no rebound control. Ended up having to buy a new damper
For real? I haven't done the 3.1 update yet. I'm planning on riding the fork as is this season and changing it to a 3.1 for next year. You should be able to at least revert back to the 3.0 and save the damper. Where are you located?
I’m in California. I felt the difference in compression. But that shaft just sprung back fast like there was no rebound dampening. Maybe it was my bleed? But I followed step by step of the Rockshox video and yours
Is it essential to get the 3 crowfoot? I can’t seem to find any good ones online that are sized 23mm, 25mm, and 28mm (thin).
IMO, crows feet are more important than a wrench because they torque bolts down to proper specs, and can be used to remove nuts and bolts.
Any 23mm and 25mm wrench and crow foot will work, they don't need to be thin. Unfortunately, Rockshox didn't provide enough wall space for your average-sized 28mm crowfoot, wrench, or adjustable wrench, even though they had the space to do so. I added a link in the description to a 28mm crowfoot. It's the same one I have. You will need to grind it down by a few mm to make it work.
Can you do all this with just an adjustable wrench? Yes, but you take the risk of incorrectly torquing parts, which can be a regrettable thing
Use knipex pliers ! 54:00 minutes
Yup! that would work as well to remove it. What I should have mentioned is that a 28mm cone wrench would work great as well since it can also be used to torque when done, and they are relatively cheap. SO many details to remember, so few brain cells left to remember them all. 🙄
How much money was your seal kit? I see the Pike ultimate kit online at $89.00. That is super expensive. The full seal kit is $18.00 for my Recons. I now have the Pike and I can't believe how expensive the seal kit is.
NOT cheap. If memory serves me correctly, it was around $65, but I'm always looking for sales or taking advantage of discounts EVERY chance I get. The trick with seal kits is to not leave buying them until you need them. Keep an eye out throughout the year. If you find a good deal, buy it, even if you won't need it for a year. And if you think you're going to keep a fork or shock longer, then buy two when they are on sale or with a discount. This way, you won't get stuck waiting for a seal kit to come back in stock, like my buddy is right now for his fox damper., which is literally sold out everywhere.
@@zoubtubeThis is smart!! 🤙🏼
Yay!
finally got around to doing this video. The plan was to get it done last october. but all that went to hell overnight! Better late than never I guess.
Either your a big guy or the forks are kind of small?
I'm positive my girlfriend would swap the adjectives 😁
@@zoubtube ahh like she would have a different opinion?
28mm cone wrench, $10.
Thanks for sharing this with people 👍