You should try Martinos Roma. Determinate plant very high yield not big fruit but one plant could yield up to 50 tomatoes. The sauce it produces is very thick.
Great video-thanks for the update!! I love to add Japanese black trifle tomatoes to my sauce for a wonderful omani flavor. It’s a keeper for me -a lovely tomato. ❤❤
I clicked on this because I just started harvesting San Marzano that everyone seems to love but I've not that thrilled with the flavor. I've just germinated some hungarian heart , is it more flavorful than San Marzano? I'd love a canning tomato that I can also use as a slicer. I have very little growing space in Southern California. Do you have a recommendation for a slicer that also works great for canning? So far my most flavorful tomato is a Rose. To save a hybrid you could maybe cut the sucker and pot it indoors for a few favorite varieties until your frost is past if you don't have too long of a winter.
I got some seed for a paste tomato called Tachi from Hoss Tools. I tried it last year but it was an overall bad year here in Central Texas. I started a few this year and they were fantastic…high yields and big for a Roma type. We got some nicer weather in the spring with decent rains until we started getting extreme heat and no rain but they kept on going for longer than I expected. I didn’t see any blossom end rot. I will definitely grow those again.
I love Picus and Plum Regal. Both determinate with high yields and a good disease package, particularly TSWV resistance! I can’t grow any tomatoes without resistance to TSWV!
I grew a new to me variety called Tachi from Hoss Tools. They had shown it on their channel as being a good one. I tried some last year but we had a horrible season last year here in Central Texas. I tried again this year and they were awesome…great production, large Roma type fruits that seemed to keep on going even when the heat kicked in. Didn’t see a single blossom end rot spot.
I am growing 28 of these Tachi right now in lower Alabama and do not see any blossom end rot. At this point on May 25 a few are just now starting to break. So far I have only seen one plant just starting to get disease. Can't tell yet how good the volume is going to be.
I've grown tomatoes for canning and sauce for more than 30 years. I've learned that there is considerable variability from season to season. That is, some seasons one variety might to better than another and the next season, it's the opposite. Also, I've grown tomatoes in two distinctly different climate zones, and I've found that different varieties respond differently depending upon the zone. As for B.E.R. (in both tomatoes and peppers), if you learn to control your watering schedule where the soil is consistently and barely damp, no matter the variety, you will have truly little B.E.R. However, I suspect that all plum varieties (of which I've tried about 6 different ones) are more susceptible to B.E.R. As for the San Marzano variety, which is well-known for its canned brand, while it is an acceptable Italian tomato, do not expect exceptional taste. That's for the same reason that wines made from identical varieties grown in different "terroirs" (climate zones and soils) vary widely in terms of their quality. The same applies to tomato varieties. My recommendation would be that for home garden tomato growers, select at least two different varieties each season. Use the same soil and the same watering schedule for both varieties.
Thank you for this information. Have you tried Health Kick? It’s a nice compact plant that provides tons of firm, meaty, large Romas and has extra lycopene. Also I add crushed egg shells to each tomato plant when planting to thwart blossom end rot. That might help you too. Not enough calcium in the soil can cause it.
I grew opalka tomatoes this year . zone 7b OK they did ok like you said bigger than roma and san marzano Thanks for the recommendations will be trying the hungarian heart ,cheers
thank you for this Video, you do a good job explaining why you like a variety for your area. I appreciate you sharing your where you got the various seeds from. Saves me time. I am located between Nashville, TN and Bowling Green, KY.
I grew Opalka...under producing, but big tomatoes. Roma, Striped Russian and Jersey Devil over produced. Amish paste underproduced, but some nice large ones. Hybrid Margharita did great, but cant save seeds as an F1. Will try Hungarian Heart
Wonderful video as usual! I'm always on the prowl for new paste tomatoes and rely on recommendations from folks I trust. My backyard garden is of limited size so I am hesitant to experiment too much. The Pink Fang you referenced has my attention. Some reviewers complain these tomatoes fall easily from their trusses and the shoulders can be bitter. Your thoughts? Thank you! : )
oh wow how funny, I just watched your last years video and left the exact suggestion! Olpaka is fabulous! I do not like the Piasano, whatever. I get that long white core thats like wood, stuck in my screens on my mill and it has to have cost me hrs of cleanout time. You must cut the entire long core out. It does not cook soft and is basically spongy wood texture. Thanks for your info!
I’ve not had issues with blossom end rot with Roma or San Marzano. My number 1 issue is early blight that knocks all of my tomato varieties. Haven’t found a variety yet that triumphs . I have rotated crops around, tried preventative spraying with baking soda solution and a hydrogen peroxide solution, tried cleaning up leaves as soon as possible ( impossible!)
I agree that Hungarian Heart is great, though I tend to like most oxheart varieties. They're all great for paste. I've been enjoying Cherokee Purple Heart especially for the last couple of years. Good for fresh eating and paste both. Gilbertie and Abbittista have done super well for us as paste types. This year I trialed a bunch of orange paste tomatoes and Golden Fang came out on top. So I'm very interested in your experience with Pink Fang. I might have to try it since it's probably related to Golden Fang. Thanks for the video!
Definitely trying Hungarian heart next year. I'm growing Burpee Super Sauce this year and I'm very impressed with the production and fruit size. A little disappointed in the plant size (short for an indeterminate) They are really loaded with fruit.
are you talking about Burpee's roma hybrid, i read that they might grow to 2.5 pounds; when i planted them i thought if they get half as big as advertised, i'll be happy. i grew one that weighed 1 pound 2 ounces, i planted them again this year; real pleased with this variety, friends i gave plants to loved them also. i think we're talking about the same variety. let me know if i'm wrong.
My Federles are doing great here in Idaho despite 100+ temps. This is my first year growing them. The plant is healthy with a good amt of tomatoes on it. Also I agree on the Hungarian heart is incredible. Again my first year growing and it had become my all time favorite for paste.
Well this morning I was looking at this plant the Federle. I have over 30 varieties-crazy but just one plant ) Some of the tomatoes are as large as the Hungarian, total number of tomatoes at this point-18. But I do have a few blossom end rot😠. Loved your video. I’m also growing the same tomatoes that you had mentioned all except one. Blessings
SanManosoto ( miss spelled is my choice this coming year and Romó are my problems they are delicious but need more productive Columbus OH had the driest summer since I can remember and I'm 73. Romó almost every one rotten from B E R so I was under the impression that San Manators ( X spelled) are better until your problem believes I'll try that Beef heart ❤️ Thanks
this is usually caused by inconsistent watering causing calcium defficiency. can also cause splitting. but there is also a bacterium which can cause it.
Your information on varieties is interesting and I enjoyed your enthusiasm, keep up the great work and trials. Only one thing! you are making a mistake thinking heirlooms are always true to seed types. Heirlooms can be hybrids as well which are not true to seed types and can be any tomato that is 50 years old or older. The term open pollinated is the accurate term for having a precise offspring. I am in the heatwave alley of Southwest Florida zone 10. I had not grown Amish paste in 20 years but decided to put it in my trials this year so put out 1 in my Spring grow out this year. It actually did well in some intense upper 90's heat and the flavor was comparable in quality to some of my favorite and best Oxhearts like Wes, Sister Miriam, Mayo's Delight, and Mrs. Schlaubaugh's famous Strawberry. Have 8 under the grow lights now for my Oct 1st garden set out time. Good luck in your trials!
I probably shouldn’t comment anything because I don’t remember the name. I’m growing f1 tomatoes that have the thickest stalks I have ever seen, flowers everywhere, and all of them turn tomatoes, and the tomatoes are black. It’s trippy, they’re not better or worse tasting, but they’re black tomatoes.
I don't have the ability to garden but I love roma tomatoes. Unfortunately it has become damn near impossible to get them here in Maine. Good ones anyway. No matter what store I go to they are hard and dry. Once in a great while I find some that are good but there is no rhyme or reason to it. It's super frustrating. A good ham, extra tomatos and black olive sub is legitimately one of my top five favorite foods. Haven't had one in at least a year, Oh, well. First world problems, right?
You've just inspired me to try Opalka next season. Incredible!!!
You should try Martinos Roma. Determinate plant very high yield not big fruit but one plant could yield up to 50 tomatoes. The sauce it produces is very thick.
The Hungarian Heart is a great tomato. I'm glad that you tried it. The Oxheart is very similar and is the star of my tomato garden this year.
Great video-thanks for the update!!
I love to add Japanese black trifle tomatoes to my sauce for a wonderful
omani flavor. It’s a keeper for me -a lovely tomato. ❤❤
I clicked on this because I just started harvesting San Marzano that everyone seems to love but I've not that thrilled with the flavor. I've just germinated some hungarian heart , is it more flavorful than San Marzano? I'd love a canning tomato that I can also use as a slicer. I have very little growing space in Southern California. Do you have a recommendation for a slicer that also works great for canning? So far my most flavorful tomato is a Rose. To save a hybrid you could maybe cut the sucker and pot it indoors for a few favorite varieties until your frost is past if you don't have too long of a winter.
Thanks for your help with the different varieties. Im always looking for new varieties. Enjoy your canning!😊
I got some seed for a paste tomato called Tachi from Hoss Tools. I tried it last year but it was an overall bad year here in Central Texas. I started a few this year and they were fantastic…high yields and big for a Roma type. We got some nicer weather in the spring with decent rains until we started getting extreme heat and no rain but they kept on going for longer than I expected. I didn’t see any blossom end rot. I will definitely grow those again.
I love Picus and Plum Regal. Both determinate with high yields and a good disease package, particularly TSWV resistance! I can’t grow any tomatoes without resistance to TSWV!
I like the plum regal as well
I grew a new to me variety called Tachi from Hoss Tools. They had shown it on their channel as being a good one. I tried some last year but we had a horrible season last year here in Central Texas. I tried again this year and they were awesome…great production, large Roma type fruits that seemed to keep on going even when the heat kicked in. Didn’t see a single blossom end rot spot.
Thank you for the suggestion!
I am growing 28 of these Tachi right now in lower Alabama and do not see any blossom end rot. At this point on May 25 a few are just now starting to break.
So far I have only seen one plant just starting to get disease.
Can't tell yet how good the volume is going to be.
I've grown tomatoes for canning and sauce for more than 30 years. I've learned that there is considerable variability from season to season. That is, some seasons one variety might to better than another and the next season, it's the opposite. Also, I've grown tomatoes in two distinctly different climate zones, and I've found that different varieties respond differently depending upon the zone.
As for B.E.R. (in both tomatoes and peppers), if you learn to control your watering schedule where the soil is consistently and barely damp, no matter the variety, you will have truly little B.E.R. However, I suspect that all plum varieties (of which I've tried about 6 different ones) are more susceptible to B.E.R.
As for the San Marzano variety, which is well-known for its canned brand, while it is an acceptable Italian tomato, do not expect exceptional taste. That's for the same reason that wines made from identical varieties grown in different "terroirs" (climate zones and soils) vary widely in terms of their quality. The same applies to tomato varieties.
My recommendation would be that for home garden tomato growers, select at least two different varieties each season. Use the same soil and the same watering schedule for both varieties.
Great advice, thank you for sharing!
Thank you for this information. Have you tried Health Kick? It’s a nice compact plant that provides tons of firm, meaty, large Romas and has extra lycopene. Also I add crushed egg shells to each tomato plant when planting to thwart blossom end rot. That might help you too. Not enough calcium in the soil can cause it.
May I ask where you got the Hungarian heart?
Bakers Creek has those seeds
I bought mine from Seed Savers Exchange.
Martinos Roma good firm determinant OP roma
Peretti is very nice as well for sauce
Yes! I looove Hungarian heart. Even raw they are just the best.
I grew opalka tomatoes this year . zone 7b OK they did ok like you said bigger than roma and san marzano Thanks for the recommendations will be trying the hungarian heart ,cheers
thank you for this Video, you do a good job explaining why you like a variety for your area. I appreciate you sharing your where you got the various seeds from. Saves me time. I am located between Nashville, TN and Bowling Green, KY.
I grew Opalka...under producing, but big tomatoes. Roma, Striped Russian and Jersey Devil over produced. Amish paste underproduced, but some nice large ones. Hybrid Margharita did great, but cant save seeds as an F1. Will try Hungarian Heart
You should try Supersauce tomatoes from Burpee.
Jill try the German Pink from Baker Creek Seed
Now I want to try Hungarian Heart!!
I also tried Salvaterra’s select last year and it’s very good. Got the seeds from seed savers exchange
I'm in west, central AR, so I really appreciate the 411 on these varieties! TYSM for investing the time to do this video. 😊
I'm in west central AR as well (Russellville area). I hope these do well for you if you try them!
Try the tyreen it's a San Marzono with little to now blossom end rot. Hungarian hart is a wonderful tomatoe.
I’m in Memphis area and have the same issue with San Marzano
Try “Big Mama” from Burpee. Indeterminate that produces a lot of tomatoes.
I suggest these three
Plum Regal
Fresh Salsa
Roma Grande
I gave up on San Marzano several years ago, lower production and susceptibility to BER
Wonderful video as usual! I'm always on the prowl for new paste tomatoes and rely on recommendations from folks I trust. My backyard garden is of limited size so I am hesitant to experiment too much. The Pink Fang you referenced has my attention. Some reviewers complain these tomatoes fall easily from their trusses and the shoulders can be bitter. Your thoughts? Thank you! : )
oh wow how funny, I just watched your last years video and left the exact suggestion! Olpaka is fabulous! I do not like the Piasano, whatever. I get that long white core thats like wood, stuck in my screens on my mill and it has to have cost me hrs of cleanout time. You must cut the entire long core out. It does not cook soft and is basically spongy wood texture. Thanks for your info!
I’ve not had issues with blossom end rot with Roma or San Marzano. My number 1 issue is early blight that knocks all of my tomato varieties. Haven’t found a variety yet that triumphs . I have rotated crops around, tried preventative spraying with baking soda solution and a hydrogen peroxide solution, tried cleaning up leaves as soon as possible ( impossible!)
I agree that Hungarian Heart is great, though I tend to like most oxheart varieties. They're all great for paste. I've been enjoying Cherokee Purple Heart especially for the last couple of years. Good for fresh eating and paste both.
Gilbertie and Abbittista have done super well for us as paste types. This year I trialed a bunch of orange paste tomatoes and Golden Fang came out on top. So I'm very interested in your experience with Pink Fang. I might have to try it since it's probably related to Golden Fang.
Thanks for the video!
Definitely trying Hungarian heart next year. I'm growing Burpee Super Sauce this year and I'm very impressed with the production and fruit size. A little disappointed in the plant size (short for an indeterminate) They are really loaded with fruit.
I grew the super sauce last year. I liked them too
are you talking about Burpee's roma hybrid, i read that they might grow to 2.5 pounds; when i planted them i thought if they get half as big as advertised, i'll be happy. i grew one that weighed 1 pound 2 ounces, i planted them again this year; real pleased with this variety, friends i gave plants to loved them also. i think we're talking about the same variety. let me know if i'm wrong.
Of all your new paste varieties which of them have the best flavor? Thanks in advance
My Federles are doing great here in Idaho despite 100+ temps. This is my first year growing them. The plant is healthy with a good amt of tomatoes on it. Also I agree on the Hungarian heart is incredible. Again my first year growing and it had become my all time favorite for paste.
Thanks for sharing! Glad they're doing well for you!
Well this morning I was looking at this plant the Federle. I have over 30 varieties-crazy but just one plant ) Some of the tomatoes are as large as the Hungarian, total number of tomatoes at this point-18. But I do have a few blossom end rot😠. Loved your video. I’m also growing the same tomatoes that you had mentioned all except one. Blessings
SanManosoto ( miss spelled is my choice this coming year and Romó are my problems they are delicious but need more productive
Columbus OH had the driest summer since I can remember and I'm 73. Romó almost every one rotten from B E R so I was under the impression that
San Manators ( X spelled) are better until your problem believes I'll try that Beef heart ❤️
Thanks
Thank you for this video. Can you list where you buy each of the seeds?
I would like to know also.
Pomodoro Squisito - Territorial Seed Co.
Federly, Hungarian Heart, and Opalka - Seed Savers Exchange
Paisano - Johnny's
Pink Fang - Baker Creek
I'm having a lot of Blossom End Rot on my San Marzano's. 😕😕
I'm going to take a look at the Pomodoro for next year.
this is usually caused by inconsistent watering causing calcium defficiency. can also cause splitting.
but there is also a bacterium which can cause it.
Your information on varieties is interesting and I enjoyed your enthusiasm, keep up the great work and trials. Only one thing! you are making a mistake thinking heirlooms are always true to seed types. Heirlooms can be hybrids as well which are not true to seed types and can be any tomato that is 50 years old or older. The term open pollinated is the accurate term for having a precise offspring. I am in the heatwave alley of Southwest Florida zone 10. I had not grown Amish paste in 20 years but decided to put it in my trials this year so put out 1 in my Spring grow out this year. It actually did well in some intense upper 90's heat and the flavor was comparable in quality to some of my favorite and best Oxhearts like Wes, Sister Miriam, Mayo's Delight, and Mrs. Schlaubaugh's famous Strawberry. Have 8 under the grow lights now for my Oct 1st garden set out time. Good luck in your trials!
I probably shouldn’t comment anything because I don’t remember the name. I’m growing f1 tomatoes that have the thickest stalks I have ever seen, flowers everywhere, and all of them turn tomatoes, and the tomatoes are black. It’s trippy, they’re not better or worse tasting, but they’re black tomatoes.
has anyone tried "san marzano 2"? ive seen it around in the uk, supposedly a more disease resistant version. will try 2024
My recommendation is Orange Banana Tomatoes
What zone are you in? 4b where I am gets both cold and heat....
I’m zone 8a
I don't have the ability to garden but I love roma tomatoes. Unfortunately it has become damn near impossible to get them here in Maine. Good ones anyway. No matter what store I go to they are hard and dry. Once in a great while I find some that are good but there is no rhyme or reason to it. It's super frustrating. A good ham, extra tomatos and black olive sub is legitimately one of my top five favorite foods. Haven't had one in at least a year, Oh, well. First world problems, right?