4 LIES You Believe About Determinate Tomatoes: Everything You Know Is WRONG
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- This video disproves 4 LIES you believe about determinate tomatoes! The internet is full of myths surrounding growing determinate tomatoes that aren't true. This video will prove that everything you know is wrong about determinate tomato plants and why you should be growing more of them in your garden.
I've been growing tomatoes most of my life, but I only started growing determinate tomatoes 5 years ago. That's because I believed they were inferior to indeterminate tomatoes based on lies I read on the internet. The truth is they are SUPERIOR producers! Determinate tomatoes produce tomatoes more efficiently than indeterminate tomatoes, often ripen earlier, are usually less prone to tomato diseases and are much less maintenance! Determinate tomatoes should be the foundation of your annual tomato garden, and I'll prove it to you in this video.
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0:00 You've Been Lied To About Determinate Tomatoes!
1:14 Lie #1
2:48 4 Great Tasting Determinate Tomato Varieties
4:08 Lie #2
9:18 Lie #3
11:43 Lie #4
13:22 Square Foot Gardening Tomato Growing Tips
16:20 Adventures With Dale
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0:00 You've Been Lied To About Determinate Tomatoes!
1:14 Lie #1
2:48 4 Great Tasting Determinate Tomato Varieties
4:08 Lie #2
9:18 Lie #3
11:43 Lie #4
13:22 Square Foot Gardening Tomato Growing Tips
16:20 Adventures With Dale
Curious where you got the huge Sun Shade/Cloth? Just built my own hoop house (sorta) which is an odd size.
AGREE 💯 my friend! I have grown Rutgers, Celebrity, Bush Early Girl and Ace 55 for the past 3 years and they ALWAYS outperform my indeterminates 👍🏼 And, my determinate tomato plants consistently produce for MONTHS. All I have to do is keep the fertilizer going and they will keep producing until disease takes them. I love the way you keep it REAL about the struggles with gardening. I live in Hot, Humid Georgia and frankly it’s a pain in the ass to grow tomatoes.
Had no idea....
It’s about the same, here. Really hard to grow tomatoes past Memorial Day. Determinates have changed my life by making the impossible possible. I have no idea how they’ve developed such a negative reputation. They should be the FOUNDATION of our tomato garden, and the indeterminates should be considered the fun play things for kicks and excitement.
@@TheMillennialGardener So true! My Cherry and Determinate tomatoes are most of what I grow, then about 4 Indeterminates. And every year I cuss them and pull them out by mid-July. Growing in heat & humidity is a whole different ball game. It’s a constant battle
@@amyk6028 I've found the same thing. The cherry and roma-type indeterminates will still grow. However, the determinate roma types are just as good. It's really only the cherry indeterminates that are worth the trouble. Honestly, if I were growing strictly for production, I wouldn't grow another indeterminate tomato, but I grow them out of love for the variety. Determinates are just so much more productive and lower maintenance!
@@TheMillennialGardener The Tommie Toe Indeterminate is one that I've grown here in North Central Florida for 4 years now. It's a vigorous and giving plant. Basically my only one still fruiting right now! I haven't grown determinates due to the "myths" so thanks and I'll start adding them as we have a second summer here starting real soon and rainy season will end in Sept plus weather beginning to get cooler as we head to winter. Thanls for the awesome content!
Isn't it wonderful we all have choices? For anyone to say that determinant or indeterminate is the only way to go is just plain being uninformed. Great video to educate.
I haven’t met anyone that mastered how to grow determinate tomatoes and quit growing them! Once you get it, they’re tough to exclude.
@@TheMillennialGardener I think the fact that you grow both types and seemingly know the pros and cons of both lends A LOT of credibility to your video. I will be trying one of the favorite varieties you mentioned in my Wisconsin garden next year. Thanks again!
Very diplomatic. 😊
You didn't convince everyone, but you convinced me. I have a whole new tomato plan for next year.
I'm glad to hear it! I recommend growing both types of tomatoes. The determinate tomatoes make fantastic foundational workhorses for solid protection. They're the "food tomatoes." Indeterminate tomatoes, to me, are "fun tomatoes" and go well in salads since they have more 'interesting' varieties.
Darling you are a Cutie-pie!!!!!😂👵🏻. Love that you live in my State bc I can count on when to plant something since our climate is the same…..this old lady planted green beans, limas, bell peppers, oh and in containers…Oriental Eggplant….it’s a lot of work for me but I do what I can….my green beans developed a bacterial something and I can’t find where I put my Neem Oil” 🤷🏻♀️….🤣 I direct sowed Tomato Seeds (Romas and Red Delicious) and put too many in the container!!!!! Will never do that again……I tried….Love all your informative videos…..keep up the good work….Gram
YOU are literally the reason I'm hooked on growing determinates. I succession plant them constantly.
That’s excellent. There are two types of people: those that love determinate tomatoes, and those that haven’t grown them yet 😂 After many years of wrestling vines, it is nice to have something easy to manage.
I’m going to try this strategy next time.
@@jmaalona you won't regret it! Just make sure you DO NOT prune them. The only foliage that can be removed from determinates are the lowest leaf nodes underneath the first sucker. Anything above that can't stay. Determinates thrive on neglect. Stake them up with Florida weave or a short, strong stake and they'll flourish.
@@area51z63 My indeterminates have been through h3ll this season. Thrips and extremely high UV Index levels.
Only my determinates are thriving. And we eat them to fast to freeze any because we now live in an apartment. Can't grow too many at a time. 😔
@@TheMillennialGardener I never even knew there was a difference... I just plant tomatoes, either seed or plant. Nice to finally know that there IS a difference and now know what to look for.
Back before I got really into gardening I grew determinant tomatoes. Threw miracle gro on them once a week, did everything "wrong" according to the Internet, and they produced all season until frost. I swear, sometimes ignorance is better.
I tried determinate one year. They were very prolific. You convinced me to raise determinates next year!
I think the myth of "all at once" comes from farmers who HAVE to harvest all at once with machines. Not all of their tomatoes ripen all at once either they only keep the ripe ones and spread the green ones back onto the field to compost.
Thanks for suggesting Siletz earlier in the year. Just picked the first ripe one and it was very good. 👍🏻
I'm glad you enjoyed Siletz! It's a very special tomato.
I agree a person should grow both. Look at your climate and your growing season. If you plan carefully you can have a very long harvest season
Wow! I am def. going to try growing determinant tomatoes! Thank you! This year (my first garden) I found that I can grow a garden and get produce from it. Lots of mistakes along the way, and it still grew. I honestly didn't think it would. But I tried. I hoped. I prayed. It grew. 😊 ❤️ ❤️ ❤️ There is So much to learn about gardening, and it's so much fun. Hard work at first, but def. A lot of fun. Thank you for sharing your love of gardening, and teaching us how to garden.
Great job starting a garden! That's excellent. I've been in the garden since diapers, and I still make mistakes all the time. When I moved from the Northeast to the South, I had to learn all over again! Just remember, there are no such thing as failures, only learning experiences. You only fail if you give up and quit. Every year, things go wrong. Learn from them, and try another angle next year. Every year, they'll get better and better. Start slow, and every year, add a few more things. Don't forget to try a fruit tree or two. They grow themselves and produce for a lifetime!
that hard work never goes away..just gets (hopefully) more efficient. plus hard work feels good. Great job on your first garden and happy gardening!
InDeterminate grower here! It’s what I’ve always grown! Roma to be specific. I love how fast they grow, I love how they taste even in a sandwich and so much more, and for me I get great harvests! I grew just two plants in a raised bed this year, planted them end of April. They are still producing! I’ve had the most beautiful fruit this year despite this horrible heat, humidity and drought! Every time I try growing indeterminate, including this year, I’m disappointed. Low yields, problems with pests or disease, And way more upkeep than my faithful Romas! So I am so glad you are making this video!!!
What variety of Roma's are they? I didn't know there were determinate ones. I've only found indeterminate ones.
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Most Romas are determinate. I think Gail was a little cryptic with the first word of her post.
Great advice. It validated my experience with tomatoes. You rock. I appreciate how informative you are my dude! Thank you! From TX
Tried determinate this year and never going back- delicious 😋-productive - space saving -and no pruning
Best thing I ever did in the garden!
I only tried this because of your earlier video, thanks you soooo much for the helpful info 🍅🍅🍅🍅
Celebrity was one of the first tomatoes I ever grew. It had just come out as an AAS winner and I read about it in the old Organic Gardening magazine and ordered some seeds. It performed fantastically.
I worked on a farm from Age 11-17 back in the late 90's/early 2000's. All the farmer grew was Celebrity. No other varieties. They were split-proof, produced like crazy, every one was picture-perfect. People would drive from Pennsylvania to our farm in NJ to buy them.
Really appreciate how you stack your vids like your garden -- no wasted time or space. High yield vids!
Appreciate these words. Tried a few determinate tomatoes last year and found what you say to be true! Will be growing many more this year!
You are spot on. I am from southeastern Pennsylvania in Bucks County and this year the heat has really done a job on my tomatoes but the only ones standing now are the determinant tomatoes which are thriving still. I think I’m going to start growing a lot more determinate and cut down on the indeterminate because I have much more success with the determinate tomatoes. Thanks again for a terrific video!
Amen. Your deterinate posts have confermed my lived xperience. I am 64 yrs. Old and have just recently been converted to this message. Hoping your info will help up and comming gardeners alongthelearning curve sooner. GOOD JOB
Wow, another great video. You are such a wealth of information😊👍. This is the first year I have had a garden and I ended up getting both kinds of tomatoes. I must say, the determinants are much easier for his senior citizen to handle. Honestly, when I bought the starts (not brave enough to try seeds yet) I didn’t understand the difference between the two…but I’ve learned so much from your videos that have helped along the way. Thank you!
So true. I have both determinate and indeterminate tomatoes and some are doing FANTASTIC this year while others are not. It's all about trial and error to see which varieties of each grow best in your climate and soil type. And of course ones that taste good to you. Thanks for the informative video.
Thanks for the pro and cons to both types. Good helpful video.
I agree as well! I grew both determinates and indeterminates this year and they have been just as productive and still going. The determinates were a little smaller plants but other than that they produce just as long as the indeterminates in Georgia
. Red Snapper has big beautiful beefsteak size tomatoes and the plants are still going.
Awesome update & I agree 100%. I tried siletz this year because you suggested it & thank you. Enjoying them. Good boy Dale. Hope he got an extra treat for finding the critters. 😉
Well, now I’m really intrigued. I’m not much of a tomato gardener but decided to try three varieties of determinant tomatoes for the first time this year. Since I didn’t get them started until mid-June, I’m still waiting for the results. I decided to try determinant varieties for the first time in the hopes that the smaller plant size would help make me more successful. Your video has made me look forward to trying the actual tomatoes. Thanks for your info. I’ve subscribed and will go back and watch other videos. I’ve got a lot to learn.
Thank you for this !!! I just love how you go into such detail on such a simple level! Excellent to share with beginners🌻🌻🌻💞🌻🌻🌻
I agree with you 500%! I am a gardener that observes the plants behavior rather than listen to every gardener and all you are talking about is what I learned.
I am enjoying all of your videos. "It pays to have a Dale" just made me smile. I have an Ollie, (a rescue from a reservation) and we feel the same. Our Ollie is our cherished king of his castle. Thank you for all of your great videos!
I have both, and I was planning next year to go all determinant. I love the fact that they stay smaller than my indeterminant and they are so much less work. I agree with every point you made. Thank you for the video.
I still grow mostly indeterminate, but that's because I'm a hobbyist/enthusiast. If I were growing strictly for production and food storage, I'd grow all determinates and not waste my time with indeterminates other than cherry types. Determinates just produce so much more food per square foot!
Love the video...I too grow both determinate and indeterminate tomato plants and my determinate tomato plants outperform my indeterminate tomato plants funny thing both in my garden beds and amazing in 25 gallon buckets...so really appreciate your videos and I am willing to try some of your tomato variety recommendations! All the best to you and Dale!
I rate your channel as one of the best!
Thank you for all the time and effort you put into making these videos and the invaluable research you share.
Take care
Hi from the SanFrancisco east Bay Area. I have a couple of 8x4 ft raised beds that are fully enclosed so I have been trying dwarf tomatoes with only moderate success. This year I planted Siltez, Stupice, Patio, and Super Bush. I am happy to hear your endorsement of Siltez. I learned a lot from your video and I’m glad I have pruned my plants yet.
Thank you for debunking these myths. Of the tomatoes I have grown from seed the determinate plants have done best. The heat this year has been brutal on all crops but especially my tomatoes.
I learn alot from you,thanks.
Excellent information... just what I was looking for as I am starting my garden this season. Thanks!
This is my first year with determinate. I'm growing several dwarf varias well. This was great, I had heard those myths as well, and wasn't interested in determinate because of that.
I'm in Southern Ontario and the dwarfs have worked great, I can start them indfs in January and they're manageable until April when they grow in the greenhouse.
I'm growing marglobe for the first time this year, I've only gotten so far, but it was tasty. Thanks for the info.
Love all the information you provide in your videos! Will definitely try determinant tomatoes next year. Also interested in the Dwarf tomato project. Could you recommend a meaty variety for dehydrating for tomato powder. Learning so much from your shared knowledge. Thank you! Hi to Dale, such a good boy❤️
Great info. I always planted indeterminate San Marzano just because I loved the flavor and they're great for sauces. Then I couldn't find seeds, so I opted for a determinate Roma. Later, I found the seeds and now will grow both.
I am adding in determinates at this point in the season shooting for mid-Sept ripening. I added this video to my Tomato Playlist. You didn't have to sell me, but you did a good job of sell the point.
Couldn't agree more with this video. A smart take on reality when it comes to growing tomatoes. Thanks for sharing.
Thanks so much for going over the differences. I never knew the difference so was not sure how to care for both.
I have been binge watching your tomato videos. Excited for the spring.
I agree, I had determinate tomatoes planted in September, highly productive through two freezes, removed them in March to replaced with new ones. I love determinate.
I live in Jersey and just pulled out my indeterminate plants and planted Tiny Tim determinate seeds. I plant only in containers and it's my first year gardening, so everything is an experiment for me. I hope I have more success with the Tiny Tim determinates than I had with the beefsteak indeterminates. Thanks for another very informative video!
You're welcome! I recommend looking into Celebrity and Bella Rosa if you want the "easiest to grow" beefsteaks. They are tough plants.
Bless your heart for sharing this knowledge, Thank you.
Great! I didn’t even know about these two types of tomatoes. Now I know what to plant. Thanks a lot!
I have been growing determinate tomatoes and other crops this year. I also have found that hybrid versions are much more rewarding too. I enjoy the videos.
Thank you! You may also be interested in looking at Dwarf Tomato Project varieties. They are not particularly disease resistant, but they're fun to mess with early in the season. The fruits are fantastic.
I live in Salem Oregon now for eight years and was raised in San Diego, in Cali you can grow tomatoes because of the weather, but here it’s a little more challenging I have grown indeterminate Tom’s and labored endlessly cutting them back and vining them and not getting much harvest! This year I’m growing way more determinate tomatoes! Thanks so much for your advice. You can’t buy a good tomato here during the season not like in Cali So I’m looking forward to changing with your experience thanks again! Tommy G.
Very informative. Will definitely do a few determinate varieties next season.
Great video! Growing some determinate tomatoes this year!!
Last year (2022) my Determinate Romas were going strong all summer, with less disease. As the nights were getting down to the 40s and everything from our summer sowing had died, Romas were still producing fruit. I pulled all the large green ones before pulling the plant (so I could seed my fall garden).
The green Romas were still nice, firm & red sitting on my kitchen counter. We ate the last one in January!!
I always grow Rutgers, Romas & Celebrities.
Thanks for another great video!
Thanks for the input. I'm growing a crop of plumb tomatoes for the first time and they are much heavier with fruit than all but one of my indeterminate breeds. Too much heat this summer for some of my favorite slicing tomatoes, and some blight(?) but I'm more than happy with the new plot growing in last year's wood chips without a raised-bed. Squash too, although the volunteer pumpkin hybrids I could have done without.
I live in Winston-Salem, NC. Last year I grew some tiny treats tomatoes and I had a great harvest. I also grew some beefsteak tomatoes the last two years, I did not have a great harvest. The tiny treats was not much work and they were great for my environment. I glad I watched this video. This year I will be growing determined tomatoes this year.
You are a wealth of knowledge. Learned a lot. Thanks.
Glad to learn this for my next gardening season. Thank you !!
You're welcome!
Thank you so much, for the excellent points made. It will help a lot next growing season. Thanks also for sharing some of your favorite determinates.
You're welcome! I'm glad I can help point you in the right direction!
For the past 3+ decades I lived and grew indeterminate tomatoes in northern California a few miles outside Napa in near-perfect conditions. I'd start seeds in our sunroom in January, transplant in March, shade in June, and harvest beautiful tomatoes until November's or December's frosts. It was like a textbook case for indeterminates. Then I retired to the Piedmont of North Carolina and tried the same varieties. Oops, big mistake...HUGE! Now I'm looking for some Celebrity starts so I'm not hopelessly behind, and succession plant them. Thanks and keep up the good work!
This year I tried few determined tomatoes and most of them are very productive, where I have indetermined tomates with less than they have. So I will check their taste and in case I like it they will find a place in my garden next year.
I only grow determinant tomatoes due to space limitations. Thanks for the list of varieties you like. I'm growing Celebriry here in Georgia, but I'll try some of the others next year.
You make a very convincing argument for having determinate tomatoes. I’m convinced!!
I recommend giving them a shot, but with the understanding that they must be treated very differently than indeterminates. They must be staked and not pruned. Never remove suckers, or you won't get a good harvest. Determinates thrive on neglect. You'll still want to do some due diligence with fungicides and pesticides if you have that issue in your climate, but the less you touch the plants, the better in general.
It’s been the reverse for us this year, low production on the determinates but huge continuing harvests for the indeterminates. Slowing a bit now but plants are still going strong! I have been spraying weekly with a diluted baking soda solution and disease has been kept under control. One interesting variety we are growing is “Candyland” which is a currant type, hundreds of very small sweet fruits. Give this a try. On your suggestion I have started some tomatoes for (hopefully) a late fall harvest. Wish us luck!
Thanks for all the great information!! DCasey from Missouri
I grow both, love having the variety! Great vid!!
That's the way to do it! Thanks for watching!
I used to live in a very short season area (zone 2b), and determinate tomatoes were the only ones that managed to ripen in the greenhouse. They were Santiam and Siletz. Decent size and good taste. I've added a cherry tomato called '42 Days', which does well in containers, it is also determinate and extremely early. I have just found your videos and will definitely share them.
I enjoy your evidence-based presentation of information, and also Adventures With Dale. 🙏
Thanks for sharing your experience. 👍
Thank you for this video! I have grown several determinate cherry tomato varieties indoors in a hydroponic setting, and in my experience they can continue to produce indefinitely in the absence of disease and environmental pressures. They kind of look like they’re about to die after each harvest, but as soon as you pick all the fruits they go right back into foliage and flower production.
My indeterminate varieties did great this year, but the determinate variety not so much. I believe the mistake I made, other than getting a bit of a late start, was buying plants that had fruit on them already.
Love the video, makes alot more of what goes on in my tomatoes patch with the 2 types. I can see how to use determinant plants to save time energy and space. 2 extra points.. sometimes I enjoy training plants and 2... your determinants may be surviving longer because they are covered your indeterminates are not.. other than that one note awesome info!!
I've learned so much from you. Like that you can't leave a cucumber to turn yellow. As for tomatoes, I keep hearing that they're full of lectins? Only the peel and seeds... I thought determinate meant it doesn't get leggie and indeterminate grow and grow all over the place. Anyway it's a crap shoot here, I feed my chickens tomatoes and I have tomatoes growing everywhere. 😌 I have so many roots,to see something growing in the ground..I sometimes top off my indeterminate, pick the suckers( if I see them) it's hard to find determinate tomatoes I look at the tag. But I didn't know to not prune them.. a BIG Thankyou to you!
Dale is a good boy! My brindle mix boy Leo checks the perimeter of my yard too. Loves to chase away the rabbits! Thanks for the info on the determinate type of tomato. I looked through my seeds and I only have 2 varieties. Will be growing them next year!
Great info. Facts over myths for the win! Zone 7b this year my indeterminate tomato yields have been outstanding.🍅 Apparently there's plenty of time left in the season to experiment with determinate varieties now that daytime temps are falling down to the 80s. I'll get started right away. First frost is not expected until mid November. 🤗
Great video!!!! I've got both, and you are right...
Thank you for this! I am tired of chasing the tips and trying to keep indeterminates balanced in my deck pots! No more tomato jungle! I was well pleased with the determinate I had last year. This year only a few plus a few cherries. More varieties of veg and flowers instead.
👍, I didn't know my 2 determinate tomatoes were so, & I pruned😢 but, amazingly, still have a few product coming😊 thanks, love them!
Nice work. I’m from Philadelphia trying to get used to Vero Beach growing. Gonna try the determinate.
You're on a roll! Love it! Truth be told! I am in Central Florida and I am harvesting sun golds right now and they are pushing seven feet, and just getting started. Who wants to get on a ladder to pick that high anyway? So, if I pinch the top of these plants, will they grow more fruit sets lower down on the horizontal branches?
First time gardener this year and I bought several indeterminate and 1 Roma determinate and so far the Roma has been the easiest! So good to know foe next year!
You've convinced me to grow more determinate tomatoes! Out of a dozen plants I grew this year, the only ones still alive are two determinates.
I'm happy the video could be helpful! Determinate tomatoes are amazing. They're workhorses!
This is my 1st year of adding determinate varieties, and they have been healthier and more productive than the indeterminate tomatoes I planted. Already planning for next year with more determinates that I’m going to add.
Great video, thank you! We've sold our house and are moving in a month so couldn't plant my tomatoes in the yard this year. I have 2 plots in a community garden that I want to put tomatoes in but can't provide the proper vining trellis that I usually use for indeterminate tomatoes. I want to try determinite tomotoes for the first time. You've given me confidence that I can and might actually do better (here in southern Ontario we end up with humidity issues, and it sounds like the determinite might do better for us anyway.) It's going to be a great experiment!
You have so much knowledge MG. Thank you for sharing! It is helpful! 😊👍
You're welcome! I appreciate you watching as always.
I will be trying determinate tomatoes next spring! Thank you for this video, very informative!
You're welcome! I think you'll enjoy them. They're much easier and more fruitful.
Dwarf determinates are amazing, you can plant 3 together and get a really nice bush full of tomatoes and it grows to a maximum hight of 50 cm, outside of some small support they dont require any work.
100% agree. For the first 3 years of my gardening career, I've gone for indeterminate only growing one determinate (Carolina Gold) which had blossom end rot issues (potted plant) each time I grew that variety and it turned me off vs indeterminate. However, last year I grew a Mountain Merit hybrid that was super productive, allowed me to succession plant up here in Southern Ontario, and was resistant to the "early" late blight that hit and eventual took out my indeterminate by late August. The yield was better, the plant was far more compact, and the taste was sensational. Obviously, I still like growing indeterminate predominantly for the funky varieties/specific cherry tomatoes that do exceptionally well, but your video definitely persuaded me to grow more of a 50/50 split of indeterminate and determinate and thus far when we've been dealing with 100% humidity nights in the 60s and upwards of 110F sticky spells, the determinate varieties are far more stable and productive. Thanks for the advice on the topic and for all the videos you put out, it's a wealth of knowledge.
This year I am only growing determinant and dwarf tomatoes. I NEVER was able to keep up with prunning and staking and now that I'm losing my sight it's almost impossible. I grew one determinant and 6 dwarfs last year and I'm hooked! No more "jungle" tomatoes that I can't tame and keep where they are supposed to be! I'm glad I.saw your video from last fall showing how good the determinants did. That along with seeing how good my one plant was doing convinced me.
This makes me feel better about my current tomato situation. Several determinate, 5 or so “big boy ” indeterminate and only I think 2 super sweet 100 indeterminate. And now I have bought more seeds I’ll start now for later season or in pots if I want to use shade
I am in Australia so I am getting ready for the season and this year I am only growing determinant verities as I have never had much luck with indeterminate and a grew a couple of determinant last year and they went really well so I’m sticking with those great video
Good job Dale😊 My 2 boys (dogs) do same every morning- come with Mom and check the vegetables and perimeter check. This video came at great time with a wealth of information as I'm planning this spring garden. Thank you again for all your insight and clear to point video
Are you located in Australia? I'm curious, since you mentioned planning for spring! Thank you for watching!
@@TheMillennialGardener sorry to disappoint you but I'm just me @ Coastal SC. I've learned so much from you that I've been planning my 2nd year now Spring Garden based on your channel
I'm 51 and just discovered YT during c19. My first experience was with "Self Sufficient Me" in Australia..
I really like determinate because the space savings. I tried the mini tomato plant this year and I enjoy that one also.
Very helpful, I learned a lot from this. Will need to try some determinates next year. I'm in OK and just having a heck of a time with all the issues you mentioned here, that midsummer heat is no joke, especially this year 😅
I agree with everything you said. Indeterminate tomatoes were a lot of work (albeit work that I enjoyed) but the determinate tomatoes are still producing though a bit tired. I will probably always plant both types because I like learning and growing is the best way to learn. I also find that small/mini tomatoes are prolific producers, at least in my area of the Northeast. Love your vids.
I tried both types this year. I religiously only grew indeterminates but I will be growing more determinates next year. I will be sure to try the 2 that you suggested the Bella Rosa and Celebrity. I am looking for more great determinates. I had a really delicious determinate tomato this season called Heatmaster. The taste was like eating a fully ripe Brandywine. determinate and no cracking. Thanks for the very informative videos. It was extremely hot and humid here in central florida this season so not much survived very long but I am anxious to start planting again for fall.
Ellen
Florida Gardener
Zone 9a
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You are in a tough summer location so you are in a really good position to find out what works no matter what. I’m moving to determinates for preserving and indeterminates for fresh. I plan to try out your recommendations for determinates next year and see how they match the Blacks for taste. Best wishes from Delaware, 500 ft. from SE PA.
After living my entire life in NJ and PA, I thought I knew how to grow tomatoes. Not so! Moving here was a wake-up call. Even my father, who moved down to Calabash, had to start all over again after 4 decades of growing tomatoes. It's amazing how you take it for granted growing up and living in NJ. It's very hard growing anything here, because our summers are too hot and winters are too cold. I've learned to work both with and against nature. If you can grow here, you can grow in a lot of places.
Not only do I Love your videos but now Love you even more bc you're from Jersey but now living in TN LOL Planned on planting determinate bc its my first season ... Hoping Roma n San Marzano are determinate .. Looking into that
Thank you for the video brother. I will grow more determinates this season. I can argue with your data because you present honest truth IMHO. I only grew early girls in memory of my ex-wife grandfather , who massive plants.
I ordered a bunch more of the Dwarf tomato project varieties earlier this season. Bella Rosa was definitely a winner for me last year. I forgot to sow any this year. Red Snapper was very similar to Bella Rosa.
Everything Hoss recommends is tough. Their climate is just like mine, so if it grows for them, I know I can handle it 😀
Without knowing anything about gardening I inadvertently grew determinate varieties for years. This year I decided to get serious about it and took all the internet advice to get indeterminate varieties, and what a freaking nightmare lol. It doesn't help that we've had a completely atypical year weather wise but I still just like the ease of growing determinates. I'm definitely going back to the determinates!
Excellent talk!
VERY informative and helpful!
Glad it was helpful!